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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Simon Trapani on February 21, 2019, 08:11:07 pm

Title: Hozelock type Brass elbow fitting repair
Post by: Simon Trapani on February 21, 2019, 08:11:07 pm: Not being a tight ass but anyone know if it's possible to repair these when they start leaking on the swivel part? It must only be just an 'o' ring inside surely? I see it has an allen bolt fitting inside and slots for an open end spanner outside but I still can't get it apart. They seem so hit or miss. Some last months, others leak almost immediately.

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1550779589_brass_swivel_elbow_1200.jpg)
Title: Re: Hozelock type Brass elbow fitting repair
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on February 21, 2019, 08:48:47 pm: You can part the two pieces and there is a O ring inside. This internal O ring is not the same size as standard hozelock O rings. Best thing to do is buy some "silicone" grease from a plumbers merchant and grease the existing O ring- works for me.👍
Title: Re: Hozelock type Brass elbow fitting repair
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on February 21, 2019, 08:50:07 pm: Also grease the washer and PTFE the thread.
Title: Re: Hozelock type Brass elbow fitting repair
Post by: Simon Trapani on February 21, 2019, 10:05:27 pm: The thread won't leak if the washer is good.

How d'you part the two pieces though? In a vice or something?
Title: Re: Hozelock type Brass elbow fitting repair
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on February 21, 2019, 10:27:18 pm: Quote from: Simon Trapani on February 21, 2019, 10:05:27 pm
The thread won't leak if the washer is good.

How d'you part the two pieces though? In a vice or something?

Adjustable spanner and allen key.
Title: Re: Hozelock type Brass elbow fitting repair
Post by: Simon Trapani on February 21, 2019, 10:52:59 pm: I tried but can’t budge it. I’ll try again. ::)roll

Thanks.
Title: Re: Hozelock type Brass elbow fitting repair
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on February 21, 2019, 11:09:50 pm: They are tight but it will move. Have an extra weetabix tomorrow. 👍

A tube of this in your van is beneficial, great for all rubber seals, O rings etc.

https://www.wolseley.co.uk/product/regin-silicone-grease-50g/
Title: Re: Hozelock type Brass elbow fitting repair
Post by: P @ F on February 22, 2019, 12:03:55 am: The last couple I took apart had thread lok on them , but they do come apart .
I have given up on them now though , I use these now £7 at Homebase , made by Gardena .
I had a tiny drip at 100 psi but nothing at all at 55 psi , it just depends on what psi you’re system DE’s at , well worth a punt at 7 quid though
Title: Re: Hozelock type Brass elbow fitting repair
Post by: P @ F on February 22, 2019, 12:15:19 am: Forgot the pic , down to £4 now , getting some the Moro me thinks !
I have had 60+ water through it too (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1550794512_2AA5E6B5-D68C-4EF4-8131-0610C2ED487B.png)
Title: Re: Hozelock type Brass elbow fitting repair
Post by: dazmond on February 22, 2019, 07:16:41 am: ive never had one of them brass elbows that didnt leak after a short while!annoying as hell.....

these days you dont need them if you buy a decent heavy duty reel as they come with industrial brass rotary joints as standard....they never leak...
Title: Re: Hozelock type Brass elbow fitting repair
Post by: Soupy on February 22, 2019, 07:55:13 am: I can't believe there's still folk using hozelock..
Title: Re: Hozelock type Brass elbow fitting repair
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on February 22, 2019, 08:54:18 am: Quote from: Soupy on February 22, 2019, 07:55:13 am
I can't believe there's still folk using hozelock..

Use them on my entire system- leak free. Never had to speedline/waterproof any of my vans in over 16 years. The problem seems to be that people get a leak and instead of finding out why and rectifying it, decide they are no good and swap their entire systems out to an alternative.
Title: Re: Hozelock type Brass elbow fitting repair
Post by: Simon Trapani on February 22, 2019, 11:37:41 am: Quote from: Soupy on February 22, 2019, 07:55:13 am
I can't believe there's still folk using hozelock..
Soupy I use JG 1/2” throughout. These elbows are just for our four fixed reels. I wouldn’t know how else to connect to the reel?
Title: Re: Hozelock type Brass elbow fitting repair
Post by: P @ F on February 22, 2019, 11:55:11 am: Better pic for you 😁
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1550836773_1410ADFD-5DD0-469C-936F-3469D6C0BC96.png)
Title: Re: Hozelock type Brass elbow fitting repair
Post by: Soupy on February 23, 2019, 01:55:52 am: Quote from: Simon Trapani on February 22, 2019, 11:37:41 am
Quote from: Soupy on February 22, 2019, 07:55:13 am
I can't believe there's still folk using hozelock..
Soupy I use JG 1/2” throughout. These elbows are just for our four fixed reels. I wouldn’t know how else to connect to the reel?

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1550886931_Hose-Reel-Swivel.jpg)

Proper job.
Title: Re: Hozelock type Brass elbow fitting repair
Post by: Slacky on February 23, 2019, 08:37:03 am: Quote from: Soupy on February 23, 2019, 01:55:52 am
Quote from: Simon Trapani on February 22, 2019, 11:37:41 am
Quote from: Soupy on February 22, 2019, 07:55:13 am
I can't believe there's still folk using hozelock..
Soupy I use JG 1/2” throughout. These elbows are just for our four fixed reels. I wouldn’t know how else to connect to the reel?

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1550886931_Hose-Reel-Swivel.jpg)

Proper job.

Have you got a link for those Mr Soupster?
Title: Re: Hozelock type Brass elbow fitting repair
Post by: Simon Trapani on February 23, 2019, 10:11:28 am: Quote from: Slacky on February 23, 2019, 08:37:03 am
Quote from: Soupy on February 23, 2019, 01:55:52 am
Quote from: Simon Trapani on February 22, 2019, 11:37:41 am
Quote from: Soupy on February 22, 2019, 07:55:13 am
I can't believe there's still folk using hozelock..
Soupy I use JG 1/2” throughout. These elbows are just for our four fixed reels. I wouldn’t know how else to connect to the reel?

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1550886931_Hose-Reel-Swivel.jpg)

Proper job.

Have you got a link for those Mr Soupster?
And how do I attach to the 3/4" male hose reel thread & the other to 1/2" hose?
Title: Re: Hozelock type Brass elbow fitting repair
Post by: Soupy on February 23, 2019, 10:22:19 am: Quote from: Simon Trapani on February 23, 2019, 10:11:28 am
Quote from: Slacky on February 23, 2019, 08:37:03 am
Quote from: Soupy on February 23, 2019, 01:55:52 am
Quote from: Simon Trapani on February 22, 2019, 11:37:41 am
Quote from: Soupy on February 22, 2019, 07:55:13 am
I can't believe there's still folk using hozelock..
Soupy I use JG 1/2” throughout. These elbows are just for our four fixed reels. I wouldn’t know how else to connect to the reel?

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1550886931_Hose-Reel-Swivel.jpg)

Proper job.

Have you got a link for those Mr Soupster?
And how do I attach to the 3/4" male hose reel thread & the other to 1/2" hose?

I don't have a link. They come with Cox reels and never break (you need to replace o rings in them sometimes). I think grippatank sell them but they're like £50 or more.

http://m.coxhosereels.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.coxhosereels.com%2FHose-Reel-Swivels.html&utm_referrer=#2865

I wouldn't connect it to a 1/2 garden hose, I use john guest fittings.
Title: Re: Hozelock type Brass elbow fitting repair
Post by: dazmond on February 23, 2019, 12:38:58 pm: (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1550925512_Screenshot_20190223-094315_Gallery.jpg)
This fitting never leaks....
Title: Re: Hozelock type Brass elbow fitting repair
Post by: Dave Willis on February 23, 2019, 02:35:31 pm: Maybe put them on your Diesel line?
Title: Re: Hozelock type Brass elbow fitting repair
Post by: P @ F on February 23, 2019, 02:54:34 pm: ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hozelock type Brass elbow fitting repair
Post by: dazmond on February 23, 2019, 03:25:15 pm: Quote from: Dave Willis on February 23, 2019, 02:35:31 pm
Maybe put them on your Diesel line?

all fixed now.... ;) ;D
Title: Re: Hozelock type Brass elbow fitting repair
Post by: Simon Trapani on February 23, 2019, 06:05:53 pm: I use JG up until out from the pumps. That’s when I switch to 1/2” hose. I could change that to JG fitting & tubing also but that would still leave me having to connect to 3/4” male thread coming out from my pure freedom reels. So I cant see how that can help?
Title: Re: Hozelock type Brass elbow fitting repair
Post by: Soupy on February 24, 2019, 02:15:57 am: Quote from: Simon Trapani on February 23, 2019, 06:05:53 pm
I use JG up until out from the pumps. That’s when I switch to 1/2” hose. I could change that to JG fitting & tubing also but that would still leave me having to connect to 3/4” male thread coming out from my pure freedom reels. So I cant see how that can help?

It's a 3/4 female thread on the swivel.