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Soupy

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Re: Osha clean
« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2016, 09:29:39 am »
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Smurf

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Re: Osha clean
« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2016, 11:52:35 am »
Quote from: Soupy on May 13, 2016, 09:29:39 am
Quote from: Smurf on May 12, 2016, 11:11:06 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmJLAcZdT-Y

I wondered about the "vote for us" line in the video.

Something to do with this I think..

https://www.vmbvoom.com/pitches/osha-book-your-window-cleaner-online

When reading the page I did find this rather amusing "Amongst all of this he has been proudly part of previous start up businesses and whilst they have not succeeded 'every day is a learning day'. The experience gained so far has given Mark the skills and confidence to launch Osha-Clean Ltd with gusto. "

I wish Mark well but all the same I think it will be another start up business to add to his list of failures somehow.

The cleaning service sector is what I call a "people’s business" foremost so it's nothing like ordering a meal or shopping for goods online. 

As far as lead generation is concerned most self employed cleaners/ firms also are internet savvy so will have a strong online presence  already with websites ranking highly on the likes of Google organic local search etc.  They will also have safe and secure online payment options for customers too. 

Speaking of which as far as getting your new website off the ground visable on google to start competing with local established cleaners/firms and start generating enquiries let alone any profits will take a bucket load of money. Your business model is also somewhat flawed too but I will not go into that right now.

Mark, good luck anyway as you are going to need it as many with the same idea have failed miserable in the past.
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Perfect Windows

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Re: Osha clean
« Reply #42 on: May 13, 2016, 02:43:02 pm »
Interesting that the company has changed name from its previous incarnation as an Estate Agent, wesellhomes4u.  ( http://companydb.uk/08645957-osha-clean-ltd#previous ) I wonder what happened to that business?

I think somebody has failed to understand the market they are entering.

I'm all for people starting out in business to succeed but this seems to have been launched without a great deal of investigation into either the market they are trying to serve or the people they want to do the work.

Vin
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supernova77

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Re: Osha clean
« Reply #43 on: May 13, 2016, 02:47:07 pm »
Quote from: Mark Stevenson on May 12, 2016, 11:06:36 am
Hi,

It's great to have your feedback on the service that we are providing, thank you.

Our focus is to offer a service that allows customers to book and pay in a safer and more convenient way and to do that they are paying a small premium. The window cleaners that are registered with us do not pay a set fee, we give them the job details and the price and they can choose whether to accept the job or not.

The benefit to a window cleaner is that there is no requirement to allocate time or money to advertising or collecting monies owed.

You can find more information here https://www.osha-clean.com/partners.html and we are more than happy to answer your questions via this forum.

All the best Louise

Hi Mark & Louise

I've just watched your YouTube video...

Your USP seems to be that the customer doesn't have the hassle of having to find cash to pay the window cleaner..?

We have over 500 customers and only about 20% pay with cash these days... Others pay by bank transfer, direct debit, or card.

So I'm not sure that you're USP is going to work - as most people these days pay electronically - and most window cleaners these days accept various forms of payment not just cash?

Also... How are you going to make any money?

Example... Customer contacts you to have their windows cleaned... It's a £15 job... You spend time sourcing the window cleaner, spend time arranging the clean, and spend time processing the payment - how much of the £15 will you take for your time spent?

Also ... What if you arrange a clean and the window cleaner never turns up, or does a bad job?   It's your company name tarnished...

And... What if a window cleaner does a job for you and then just takes on the customer direct for all future cleans?

I wish you the best - but there are so so many reasons why this idea won't work.

Andy
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Dave Willis

Re: Osha clean
« Reply #44 on: May 13, 2016, 05:04:40 pm »
Dont they stipulate you can't approach the customer again?

"Thanks Dave, you've done a wonderful job - I'd like to book you as my regular cleaner, I'll have them done every six weeks please"
Sorry no can do, not allowed.
For an industry that likes cash payments too - your gonna be stuffed.
I bet the vetting is interesting.
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The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: Osha clean
« Reply #45 on: May 13, 2016, 06:15:40 pm »


"Thanks Dave, you've done a wonderful job - I'd like to book you as my regular cleaner, I'll have them done every six weeks please"
Sorry no can do, not allowed. Mr customer. But I can work for Mrs customer.


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Ian Lancaster

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Re: Osha clean
« Reply #46 on: May 13, 2016, 06:32:11 pm »
Quote from: Mark Stevenson on May 12, 2016, 11:06:36 am
Hi,

It's great to have your feedback on the service that we are providing, thank you.

Our focus is to offer a service that allows customers to book and pay in a safer and more convenient way and to do that they are paying a small premium. The window cleaners that are registered with us do not pay a set fee, we give them the job details and the price and they can choose whether to accept the job or not.

The benefit to a window cleaner is that there is no requirement to allocate time or money to advertising or collecting monies owed.

You can find more information here https://www.osha-clean.com/partners.html and we are more than happy to answer your questions via this forum.

All the best Louise

I'm sure we're all on the edges of our seats, waiting for your reaction to all the comments so far.  How about it Mark and Louise?
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Frankybadboy

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Re: Osha clean
« Reply #47 on: May 13, 2016, 07:28:14 pm »
where do i sign up ;D
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8weekly

Re: Osha clean
« Reply #48 on: May 13, 2016, 08:01:26 pm »
It's pretty obvious that it's a non runner for all the reasons stated. I don't think the aggression strictly necessary though.
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Smudger

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Re: Osha clean
« Reply #49 on: May 13, 2016, 08:11:03 pm »
Frank  😂😂😂

8 weekly - aggression ??

I do think it's an ill advised venture, seriously established cleaning companies couldn't get this off the ground - even with ( what appeared to be hundreds of) windies paying them £250 for a patch area.

They may even have read about the housewife and Google accolades but Google staff have as about as much savvy of our industry as I have of performing open heart surgery...

Their only saving grace is they did come on here to make all us windies aware they exist, and by doing that have some chance of getting a network going.

HOWEVER -

Most, if not all established, quality, experienced windies will have rounds and schedules and will not be dropping regular work for a £15 minging one off clean.

Darran
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Og

Re: Osha clean
« Reply #50 on: May 13, 2016, 08:21:25 pm »
If they're not competent enough to a find a local window cleaner online, that takes bank transfer, then they've little chance. I'm guessing they'll be vat registered too. Be interesting to see pricing.

I'm the only person that can price my work effectively.

Bet that website cost a bit!
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Ian Lancaster

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Re: Osha clean
« Reply #51 on: May 13, 2016, 08:30:01 pm »
Quote from: Og on May 13, 2016, 08:21:25 pm
If they're not competent enough to a find a local window cleaner online, that takes bank transfer, then they've little chance. I'm guessing they'll be vat registered too. Be interesting to see pricing.

I'm the only person that can price my work effectively.

Bet that website cost a bit!

So did that advert at the top of this page ;D
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8weekly

Re: Osha clean
« Reply #52 on: May 13, 2016, 08:32:35 pm »
Quote from: Ian Lancaster on May 13, 2016, 08:30:01 pm
Quote from: Og on May 13, 2016, 08:21:25 pm
If they're not competent enough to a find a local window cleaner online, that takes bank transfer, then they've little chance. I'm guessing they'll be vat registered too. Be interesting to see pricing.

I'm the only person that can price my work effectively.

Bet that website cost a bit!

So did that advert at the top of this page ;D
I suspect he's a website developer/affinity marketeer.
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Tosh

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Re: Osha clean
« Reply #53 on: May 13, 2016, 10:25:45 pm »
Quote from: Smurf on May 13, 2016, 11:52:35 am
When reading the page I did find this rather amusing "Amongst all of this he has been proudly part of previous start up businesses and whilst they have not succeeded 'every day is a learning day'. The experience gained so far has given Mark the skills and confidence to launch Osha-Clean Ltd with gusto. "


Lesson number 1 - never confuse ignorance, naivety or stupidity for gusto.
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rosskesava

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Re: Osha clean
« Reply #54 on: May 13, 2016, 11:20:19 pm »
I wonder how something like a business is launched with gusto and how long exactly the 'gusto' lasted or what even 'gusto' means in this context?

Tonight when I go to bed I going to launch myself at the missus with gusto. I wonder if I'll be successful?
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Re: Osha clean
« Reply #55 on: May 13, 2016, 11:25:41 pm »
Quote from: rosskesava on May 13, 2016, 11:20:19 pm
I wonder how something like a business is launched with gusto and how long exactly the 'gusto' lasted or what even 'gusto' means in this context?

Tonight when I go to bed I going to launch myself at the missus with gusto. I wonder if I'll be successful?

Does gusto and wishful thinking mean the same thing then?  ;D
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Ian101

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Re: Osha clean
« Reply #56 on: May 14, 2016, 07:51:16 pm »
Quote from: Ian Lancaster on May 13, 2016, 06:32:11 pm
Quote from: Mark Stevenson on May 12, 2016, 11:06:36 am
Hi,

It's great to have your feedback on the service that we are providing, thank you.

Our focus is to offer a service that allows customers to book and pay in a safer and more convenient way and to do that they are paying a small premium. The window cleaners that are registered with us do not pay a set fee, we give them the job details and the price and they can choose whether to accept the job or not.

The benefit to a window cleaner is that there is no requirement to allocate time or money to advertising or collecting monies owed.

You can find more information here https://www.osha-clean.com/partners.html and we are more than happy to answer your questions via this forum.

All the best Louise

I'm sure we're all on the edges of our seats, waiting for your reaction to all the comments so far.  How about it Mark and Louise?

OSHA very quiet
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The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: Osha clean
« Reply #57 on: May 14, 2016, 08:50:16 pm »
The u tube advert has a negative comment on there too.
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robert mitchell

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Re: Osha clean
« Reply #58 on: May 15, 2016, 07:21:30 am »
Quote from: Wibble ( Paul ) on May 14, 2016, 08:50:16 pm
The u tube advert has a negative comment on there too.

Looks like constructive criticism rather than a negative comment to me  ;)
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PoleKing

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Re: Osha clean
« Reply #59 on: May 15, 2016, 06:29:29 pm »
I'm getting crap from Bark.com (can't seem to unsubscribe, though i don't remember subscribing in the first place ::)roll)
Sounds similar to this.
Its handy though as they price the job for you ::)roll
Last one said:
"cheap-£10p/h"
"middle-£12p/h"
"(something like)top end £15p/h'

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