[Sir Squeaky]

Following on from my other thread...

If I have got a damaged diaphragm, would I be able to see the damage?

I assume it's the two black rubber circles I can see.
I can't see any holes though.

[*Mr Tumble]

You need a diagram of the diaphragm
To verify any damage
A hole here or there will certainly be bad
An imaginary hole is not bad at all
Nor is it a hole.

HTH.

[Alex Gardiner]

Following on from my other thread...

If I have got a damaged diaphragm, would I be able to see the damage?

I assume it's the two black rubber circles I can see.
I can't see any holes though.

It is the two black circles. You need to give them a stretch to see if there are any slits etc. These often only show up under strain.

If there is no damage then at least you know that these are OK. You can then start checking all of the internal tubing for blockages etc.

[Xline Systems]

correct me if i anm wrong but if it was damage to the diaphram the pump would not build pressure then drop. couldbe a number of differant things squeeky did you put the system together yourself? got a few ideas if you want to give me a call. 0115 9394444

[Sir Squeaky]

correct me if i anm wrong but if it was damage to the diaphram the pump would not build pressure then drop. couldbe a number of differant things squeeky did you put the system together yourself? got a few ideas if you want to give me a call. 0115 9394444

Me and couple of mates put it together, but it was all done properly.

No leaks anywhere, and it's been fine for a year.
Just lost pressure last week.

It doesn't build pressure then drop.
It only builds a bit of pressure if you turn the tap off, because the pump doesn't stop.

[Alex Gardiner]

If there is definitely no damage then put it back together and try running it again to see what the flow rate is like. To eliminate possible pressure switch problems then take the square cap off the pressure switch and take one of the orange wire terminals off and hold it on to the other orange terminal. This will give you a permanent live and the ability to see if you can get enough flow. If for some reason this works then you could try adjusting the pressure switch back down or replace the pressure switch itself.

[Xline Systems]

does the water pas through a di vessel at all?  if so where is it situated? do you have a varistreem fitted or any other flow regulter or a return to tank fitted? any hozelock connectors?

[Xline Systems]

it sounds to me like something stupid. dont mean that to sound funny squeeky. could be a number of differant reasons. are you anywhere near nottingham.

[Sir Squeaky]

does the water pas through a di vessel at all?  if so where is it situated? do you have a varistreem fitted or any other flow regulter or a return to tank fitted? any hozelock connectors?

No, no, and no.

[Sir Squeaky]

it sounds to me like something stupid. dont mean that to sound funny squeeky. could be a number of differant reasons. are you anywhere near nottingham.

No.

[Sir Squeaky]

If there is definitely no damage then put it back together and try running it again to see what the flow rate is like. To eliminate possible pressure switch problems then take the square cap off the pressure switch and take one of the orange wire terminals off and hold it on to the other orange terminal. This will give you a permanent live and the ability to see if you can get enough flow. If for some reason this works then you could try adjusting the pressure switch back down or replace the pressure switch itself.

I will put it back together before I do anything else.
Maybe's muck in the pump somewhere.
Maybe I've dislodged it.

[pjulk]

Battery low


Probably not but its probably something simple

[L.J.Thorpe]

if its a flojet and the diaphragm goes it will leak like flip wont it

[Moderator David@stives]

Battery sounds likely

[Sir Squeaky]

if its a flojet and the diaphragm goes it will leak like flip wont it

Ah, that's probable.
No leaks at all.

Battery is only 2 months old and charged every night.
Pump is flying along really well.
If battery was under voltage I wouldn't expect it would.

[L.J.Thorpe]

if pump is only 2 mths old and mounted in either of flojets recommended positions then it will leak if diaphragm goes ,also the water coming out will leave brown marks on anything it touches,probly because of breach between pump and motor

[d s windowcleaning]

try the inlet and outlet bends / straights from the pump for blockage it dont take much to block them even using a strainer .

[Wayne Thomas]

I had a pump just like Squeeky's. Nothing wrong with any connections (electrical or water). Battery fine. No hose blockages. No slits or holes in the diaphram. Pump work fine for about 4 hours then it would trickle flow. The pump was getting too hot as it was being used constantly, virtually non stop.
I will be interested to hear what the problem is and what the remedy is as well as Squeeky.

[L.J.Thorpe]

squeeky if its only 2 mths old try cleghorn waring in letchworth

[Sir Squeaky]

I don't know where the 2 month thing came from.

It's a year old actually.

Wayne, I don't think I've got the same problem, as it's constantly like it, right from first thing.

I'll put it all back together on the weekend and see if it's cured itself somehow.
If not, then have to take the pump apart and see what I can see...

[TennetClean]

If not, then have to take the pump apart and see what I can see...

what a load of hassle, LOL just buy a new pump.

Fannying around taking it apart etc has probably cost you more in lost work time than a new pump anyway.

Who cares what EXACTLY is wrong with it.  Just bin it and get another one.

[Sir Squeaky]

If not, then have to take the pump apart and see what I can see...

what a load of hassle, LOL just buy a new pump.

Fannying around taking it apart etc has probably cost you more in lost work time than a new pump anyway.

Who cares what EXACTLY is wrong with it.  Just bin it and get another one.

Well you send me the £140 and I'll get ordering... :

[Xline Systems]

£140 where you buying that from? we sell shurflo 100psi pumps for £85 including vat

[Sir Squeaky]

£140 where you buying that from? we sell shurflo 100psi pumps for £85 including vat

This is Flojet, I thought it was more than that.

[Xline Systems]

sorry mate flojet £121

[TennetClean]

Well you send me the £140 and I'll get ordering...

Exactly my point matey, thats less than a days earnings.  Say you earned £150  a day (low I know but just for the sake of argument) You could either:

Pay £140 fo a new pump and then go and earn £150 the next workng day with your new pump and continue to work.

or stop working and fanny around dismantling your pump and lose £150 every day your not able to work.

LOL no brainer this one matey.

[Sir Squeaky]

No I don't always earn £150 a day, and I've got plenty of other bills thankyou.

£150 a day is not low, and you know it.
You just want people think you're something special. :

[Xline Systems]

  tennetclean

[TennetClean]

No offense squeaky mate, but seriously are you having a laff?

How can you NOT earn £150 a day with WFP?

I know I can be sarcy etc, but i'm being serious now.  £150 is what most WFPers would manage standing on their head.  Matey, you seriously need to either raise your prices or do something to get faster.

And as for bills yes yes, but window cleaning gear is not a bill.  If a knackered pump stops you earning money then it will cost you much more in lost work than the cost of a new one surely?  Honestly I am not having a go now, I am serious.

[frames to panes]

Tennant...........why?  :

[TennetClean]

why what?

[Sir Squeaky]

No offense squeaky mate, but seriously are you having a laff?

How can you NOT earn £150 a day with WFP?

I do some days, but when you've got old prices and moaners you're stuck with it until better work can replace it.
All my new stuff, yes it is worth that.
Sometimes in a morning.

But I think you'll find there's a large amount of people on here who would be more than happy with that or less per day.

[Sir Squeaky]

Anyway, back to the prob...

Down to only two possibilities now.
When the missus gets back I'll try it with jump leads.
Then we'll know if was just a weak battery. (but I doubt it).

If not, new pump time.
Like you said, no pointing faffing about, lets get back to work.