Stoots

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price rises
« on: April 18, 2022, 06:46:05 pm »
Who will be raising prices this year ?

Im nervous but i need a cull, i put about 300 up a quid last year...

I have 620 customers, about 50/50 4 and 8 weekly

it works out about £1500 quid a week, but ive no chance of getting  round it all on my own as its too much physically for me to cope with unless i worked 5 days a week every week of the year and its been years since i worked 5 days lol.

Ive got about 130 customers under £12 so decided to start by putting them all up to £12 (apart from about 30 which are fronts only which can stay as they are for now)

Once i ve done that the idea is to look through the rest and pick out about 50  of my worst jobs, either most underpriced or ones that are physically just harder work and whack them up.

Then if all that fails i will stick the rest up by a quid or 2 and see what happens.

Got to the point now where i dont care, happy to lose 50/100 customers and enjoy the increase on the others.


 

richard connett

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Re: price rises
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2022, 07:00:15 pm »
Sounds like a good plan . I’ll be doing something similar soon or selling work on

NWH

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Re: price rises
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2022, 07:23:28 pm »
I’ve put almost every job I’ve done up in the last 6 weeks most people have said well you’ve got to haven’t you.

NWH

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Re: price rises
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2022, 07:26:07 pm »
You need to put them up even if it’s just a £ absolutely everything has gone up down to the last potato 🥔.

Stoots

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Re: price rises
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2022, 07:46:17 pm »
I’ve put almost every job I’ve done up in the last 6 weeks most people have said well you’ve got to haven’t you.

You are right, had a few comback saying its to be expected and understandable...had 2 cancel so far but only messaged about 40 will do them in batches over the next few days.

NWH

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Re: price rises
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2022, 07:57:51 pm »
Yeah I know you may feel it’s a bit dodgy putting them up but tbh it’s expected and you’ve just got to do it to cover you’re costs,I ordered a bag of resin and I don’t know exactly how much it’s gone up but it used to be under a 100 for just a small bag all in,I think it worked out at around 120 this time round.
Some people are taking advantage of it though some products in our industry are made for peanuts and are already marked up a silly amount.

Stoots

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Re: price rises
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2022, 08:08:58 pm »
Yeah I know you may feel it’s a bit dodgy putting them up but tbh it’s expected and you’ve just got to do it to cover you’re costs,I ordered a bag of resin and I don’t know exactly how much it’s gone up but it used to be under a 100 for just a small bag all in,I think it worked out at around 120 this time round.
Some people are taking advantage of it though some products in our industry are made for peanuts and are already marked up a silly amount.

Bloody hell i rememeber when it was like 70 quid for a bag of resin and it wasnt that many years ago. 120 is excessive though, ive just paid £91.35 delivered for tulsion mb115 on ebay last week

SB Cleaning

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Re: price rises
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2022, 08:23:45 pm »
Yeah I know you may feel it’s a bit dodgy putting them up but tbh it’s expected and you’ve just got to do it to cover you’re costs,I ordered a bag of resin and I don’t know exactly how much it’s gone up but it used to be under a 100 for just a small bag all in,I think it worked out at around 120 this time round.
Some people are taking advantage of it though some products in our industry are made for peanuts and are already marked up a silly amount.
You got robbed with that resin  ;D

NWH

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Re: price rises
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2022, 08:30:32 pm »
Yeah I did but I needed it quick so just ordered.

britishwill

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Re: price rises
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2022, 11:54:16 pm »
I have put almost all my clients up 3 weeks ago.
Some said about time, some say understood considering the circumstances and 1  cancelled.
I was worried,  but it turned out for me to be ok.


jo5hm4n

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Re: price rises
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2022, 01:12:50 am »
All my prices gone up on any customer we have pre 2020.

Lost 10 so far, still way up so far.

When all price rises are done in 2 weeks ill see how much we are down, then just yolo a lead gen campaign in may or something to replace them and get even higher prices lol.

I remember the days when i would be in utter panic at the thought of putting prices up and terrified of doing it.

These days i just dont care for like 80% of my customers.  I still feel bad for like 20% of the old biddies or the customers who i actually like but thats about it.

Also now that most customers are on GoCardless i doubt they even notice that the DD has gone up like £1.

Its mainly cash payers on the day who will probably notice.

Anyway as i said above, when you get work fast as replacements it doesn't really matter.


mac74

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Re: price rises
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2022, 01:18:01 am »
All my prices gone up on any customer we have pre 2020.

Lost 10 so far, still way up so far.

When all price rises are done in 2 weeks ill see how much we are down, then just yolo a lead gen campaign in may or something to replace them and get even higher prices lol.

I remember the days when i would be in utter panic at the thought of putting prices up and terrified of doing it.

These days i just dont care for like 80% of my customers.  I still feel bad for like 20% of the old biddies or the customers who i actually like but thats about it.

Also now that most customers are on GoCardless i doubt they even notice that the DD has gone up like £1.

Its mainly cash payers on the day who will probably notice.

Anyway as i said above, when you get work fast as replacements it doesn't really matter.

If they are on Go Cardless, do you bother to tell them its gone up, or just do it?

Soupy

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Re: price rises
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2022, 10:37:33 am »
If they are on Go Cardless, do you bother to tell them its gone up, or just do it?

I tell mine. Pretty sure you're not allowed to increase a direct debit without informing the customer first, although I geuss with GC it emails them in advance to say how much is coming out and when.

I put my prices up in February.

Might need to go again next year.

NWH

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Re: price rises
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2022, 10:38:41 am »
I know it seems obvious but if you don’t put them up you are gonna be seriously down on what you do over the course of the month when you factor everything in,my gas and electric is going to be 4K + someone’s gotta pay for it and it ain’t gonna be me.
It’s not a want to put them up it’s a need.

jo5hm4n

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Re: price rises
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2022, 12:35:36 am »
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If they are on Go Cardless, do you bother to tell them its gone up, or just do it?
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Yes i go overboard.  Everyone gets a letter.

Slacky

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Re: price rises
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2022, 08:06:50 am »
Im putting quite a few up. My one off jobs are going up significantly.

I did a gutter clean last year, small 2 bed place. £160.

She called yesterday to see if I could do it again. Price has gone up to £195. Diesel is getting expensive  ;D

I got a call the other day for an annual solar panel clean I do. Usually it's £240. This year it'll be £335.00. Just because....

Its called 'testing the market'.

NWH

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Re: price rises
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2022, 09:17:16 am »
Everyone gets a letter,sod that just put em up.

Stoots

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Re: price rises
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2022, 12:31:55 pm »
Everyone gets a letter,sod that just put em up.

I don't go as far as a letter but you have to tell them surely.

I just send a text, use text local via cleaner planner done in 1 click.

NWH

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Re: price rises
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2022, 01:15:22 pm »
Yeah windows cleaned today from the next clean I’m going to have to put it up to X,write a letter to every job no thanks.
I reckon and it’s just my opinion that if you were to email 2-3000 customers telling them the price is going up you’ll get some cancel,I am able to increase at this time what and when I know I can doing it on that kind of mass all at once must get quiet a few cancel,just my opinion.
As a lot of these  multiple van  operators get work per day and some are cancelling also,it’s day to day stuff when you operate with 1000s of customers though.

Smudger

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Re: price rises
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2022, 01:36:40 pm »
Can't even think of the last cancellation - certainly not this year - when prices went up last year I think I lost maybe 3 customers

putting up prices appears to be a worry more on the part of the cleaner than the customer - firstly inform the customer in which ever way is most comfortable with you - letter, note, not at all .....

Darran
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Jay Le Huray

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Re: price rises
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2022, 04:28:21 pm »
I put mine up in January and February and no problems, there are just a few of my 8 weeklys which I have not done yet but will be doing on the next visit.

Stoots

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Re: price rises
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2022, 05:39:19 pm »
Can't even think of the last cancellation - certainly not this year - when prices went up last year I think I lost maybe 3 customers

putting up prices appears to be a worry more on the part of the cleaner than the customer - firstly inform the customer in which ever way is most comfortable with you - letter, note, not at all .....

Darran

I agree i put about 250 up a quid last year and only had 5 or 6 cancel. Ive just put about 50 up £2 from 10 to 12 and surprisingly so far only had 4 cancel i thought i would have culled more. Percentage wise the 2 quid rise has done more damage that the £1 rise but still only 10%

SB Cleaning

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Re: price rises
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2022, 06:02:44 pm »
Can't even think of the last cancellation - certainly not this year - when prices went up last year I think I lost maybe 3 customers

putting up prices appears to be a worry more on the part of the cleaner than the customer - firstly inform the customer in which ever way is most comfortable with you - letter, note, not at all .....

Darran

I agree i put about 250 up a quid last year and only had 5 or 6 cancel. Ive just put about 50 up £2 from 10 to 12 and surprisingly so far only had 4 cancel i thought i would have culled more. Percentage wise the 2 quid rise has done more damage that the £1 rise but still only 10%
You must have some right tight customers cancelling over such a small increase ;D

Stoots

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Re: price rises
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2022, 06:26:44 pm »
Can't even think of the last cancellation - certainly not this year - when prices went up last year I think I lost maybe 3 customers

putting up prices appears to be a worry more on the part of the cleaner than the customer - firstly inform the customer in which ever way is most comfortable with you - letter, note, not at all .....

Darran

I agree i put about 250 up a quid last year and only had 5 or 6 cancel. Ive just put about 50 up £2 from 10 to 12 and surprisingly so far only had 4 cancel i thought i would have culled more. Percentage wise the 2 quid rise has done more damage that the £1 rise but still only 10%
You must have some right tight customers cancelling over such a small increase ;D

Well yes the £10 houses that do i have are the smallest ones on my round, terraceds, 2 bed semis or bungalows so it probably stands to reason they are in the poorer areas or are the least well off customers. 

So i think its that along with the fact £2 on a £10 job is a 20% increase which is huge in inflation terms, very rare bills go up by that much (apart from this years of course)

I think if you have a lot of 30/40 quid jobs £2 is nothing but i would say 90% of my round is between £10 - £15 so £2 is actually a relatively big increase in percentage terms.

But yes you are right, i live and work in a northern ex mining town everyone is thrifty and tight thats just the way it is round here. Im the same way, i wont pay anyone to do anything i can do myself and will always look for the cheapest option  :D

NWH

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Re: price rises
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2022, 06:30:34 pm »
People are gonna be squeezed next year I hope people hold on to even the smallest of jobs.

Slacky

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Re: price rises
« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2022, 07:48:06 am »
Im putting quite a few up. My one off jobs are going up significantly.

I did a gutter clean last year, small 2 bed place. £160.

She called yesterday to see if I could do it again. Price has gone up to £195. Diesel is getting expensive  ;D

I got a call the other day for an annual solar panel clean I do. Usually it's £240. This year it'll be £335.00. Just because....

Its called 'testing the market'.

I spoke to this fella last night. Told him about his price increase. Didn’t bat an eyelid.

NWH

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« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2022, 08:51:56 am »
It’s not those kind of jobs that will imo it’s the estate work or smaller houses-jobs that will give grief,very wealthy people won’t bay an eyelid as you put it.

Slacky

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Re: price rises
« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2022, 03:53:44 pm »
Who said he's wealthy?

NWH

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« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2022, 04:51:28 pm »
Yeah well you know what I mean the wealthy ones will still be wealthy it’s the smaller jobs that will be either putting it back an extra month or so,I mean the people with money not the ones that look like they’ve got some.