nathankaye

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Window cleaners doing jet washing
« on: April 30, 2018, 10:55:05 am »
On the jet washing pages on ciu and other forums, sadly us window cleaners offering a jet washing service are not held in a favourable light. They feel we are karcher warriors and under pricing cowboys.
Lol, these are often broad sweeping statements as most of the time I find its the gardeners who are the karcher warriors  ;D ;D
This is a quick (less than a minute) vid of someones standard that ive been called out to quote and im also quoting to rectify their clean as well  ;D
But if were venturing into widening our cleaning services, please i beg dont use karchers and cheap petrol machines  ;D ;D ::)roll

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2018, 01:44:07 pm »
I thought broad, general, ill informed, opinionated, sweeping statements were the realm of Nigel 😂

The general board has always been say we say “odd” mainly due I feel that over the years window cleaners (and others) have shown contempt for this area of cleaning without realising there is more to it than spraying water about - just like window cleaning there are lots of part time glory boys doing cheap jobs for cash

Do some decent posts on there and you may one day be accepted 😀

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2018, 02:29:21 pm »
On the jet washing pages on ciu and other forums, sadly us window cleaners offering a jet washing service are not held in a favourable light. They feel we are karcher warriors and under pricing cowboys.
Lol, these are often broad sweeping statements as most of the time I find its the gardeners who are the karcher warriors  ;D ;D
This is a quick (less than a minute) vid of someones standard that ive been called out to quote and im also quoting to rectify their clean as well  ;D
But if were venturing into widening our cleaning services, please i beg dont use karchers and cheap petrol machines  ;D ;D ::)roll

https://youtu.be/wcGf4l0slxU

Yeh, build a cheap trolley system instead eh?! ;D

Stoots

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2018, 03:02:13 pm »
You are right.

The key is to not give a flying thingy about what anyone else thinks.


nathankaye

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2018, 03:10:24 pm »
On the jet washing pages on ciu and other forums, sadly us window cleaners offering a jet washing service are not held in a favourable light. They feel we are karcher warriors and under pricing cowboys.
Lol, these are often broad sweeping statements as most of the time I find its the gardeners who are the karcher warriors  ;D ;D
This is a quick (less than a minute) vid of someones standard that ive been called out to quote and im also quoting to rectify their clean as well  ;D
But if were venturing into widening our cleaning services, please i beg dont use karchers and cheap petrol machines  ;D ;D ::)roll

https://youtu.be/wcGf4l0slxU

Yeh, build a cheap trolley system instead eh?! ;D

There's a huge difference.
Theres no difference in pumps n psi between my pump box and that of a pure freedom trolley system. Although i did make one with a higher psi than pure freedom once  ;D
Whereas theres a huge difference in water flow and pressure or that of adjusting the pressure.   Never mind using say a plastic fsc with a karcher or aldi bought machine  ;D
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Tom-01

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2018, 03:54:23 pm »
Using an FSC of any description is a waste of time

Dane

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2018, 04:07:27 pm »


A job of mine and it wasnt done with a karcher 😬

dazmond

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2018, 04:18:57 pm »
whats wrong with a karcher?great for domestic jobs......(and cleaning cars!) :)
price higher/work harder!

Slacky

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2018, 05:15:10 pm »
whats wrong with a karcher?great for domestic jobs......(and cleaning cars!) :)

You cant melt conservatories with them.

Slacky

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2018, 05:16:05 pm »

Dane

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2018, 05:42:54 pm »
whats wrong with a karcher?great for domestic jobs......(and cleaning cars!) :)

I’m not knocking karcher.. just giving Nathan peace of mind 😆

nathankaye

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2018, 06:00:40 pm »
I have piece of mind, it amazes me on two levels.  The first is that someone would do such a poor job and expect to get paid for it (ref my video) and 2nd that customers are happy to pay for that job.
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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2018, 06:09:25 pm »
On the jet washing pages on ciu and other forums, sadly us window cleaners offering a jet washing service are not held in a favourable light.

You mean because they post pictures of potential jobs and ask.......
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how much would you charge for this, how long will it take, whats the best way to do it, should i use hippo [sic], and whats the best ratio to mix it......... never done one before but i reckon it could be a good earner

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Simon Trapani

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2018, 06:34:17 pm »
I don't do pressure washing Nathan but I've done my own patio & driveway with a Karcher and it looks fine. I think whoever did that one in the video went too quick and only used a spray lance and not the spinny thing.

nathankaye

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2018, 07:25:51 pm »
whats wrong with a karcher?great for domestic jobs......(and cleaning cars!) :)

Nothing wrong with karchers,  the majority are sold targeting domestic home use and not domestic trade  work.    So if you want to spend a whole day or days depending on the size of your drive etc then so be it.   Or to blast the car safely clean then its a great piece of kit.
But to turn uo to someones house with  a karcher you picked uo from asdas or bnq is taking the mickie just a bit and then to ask to plug it in and use their water is a little cheekie dont you think


It reminds me some time back of someone in my local village coming round with a flymo asking to cut lawns with two extension plugged to make one big extension wire.   
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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2018, 07:59:11 pm »
My Learjet could do with a wash.
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dazmond

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2018, 10:56:23 pm »
whats wrong with a karcher?great for domestic jobs......(and cleaning cars!) :)

Nothing wrong with karchers,  the majority are sold targeting domestic home use and not domestic trade  work.    So if you want to spend a whole day or days depending on the size of your drive etc then so be it.   Or to blast the car safely clean then its a great piece of kit.
But to turn uo to someones house with  a karcher you picked uo from asdas or bnq is taking the mickie just a bit and then to ask to plug it in and use their water is a little cheekie dont you think


It reminds me some time back of someone in my local village coming round with a flymo asking to cut lawns with two extension plugged to make one big extension wire.

i dont offer jet washing commercially....but i know window cleaners that do(and they use karchers!) ;D
price higher/work harder!

deeege

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2018, 06:10:23 am »
whats wrong with a karcher?great for domestic jobs......(and cleaning cars!) :)

Nothing wrong with karchers,  the majority are sold targeting domestic home use and not domestic trade  work.    So if you want to spend a whole day or days depending on the size of your drive etc then so be it.   Or to blast the car safely clean then its a great piece of kit.
But to turn uo to someones house with  a karcher you picked uo from asdas or bnq is taking the mickie just a bit and then to ask to plug it in and use their water is a little cheekie dont you think


It reminds me some time back of someone in my local village coming round with a flymo asking to cut lawns with two extension plugged to make one big extension wire.

i dont offer jet washing commercially....but i know window cleaners that do(and they use karchers!) ;D

Nor do I. We did do for a year or two whilst getting established but just windows/gutters/conservatories now. Leave the jetwashing to the specialists.

Jetwashing always seems to give me a sore neck anyway.
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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2018, 07:45:47 am »
i love jetwashing the drive/decking/cars at my girlfriends house but id hate to do it as an add job.it gives me a sore neck too......
price higher/work harder!

Shrek

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2018, 08:11:31 am »
Gives me a sore back , why do they make karchers so short?!!

Plankton

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2018, 09:04:02 am »
Gives me a sore back , why do they make karchers so short?!!
To make miserable people even more miserable.

jk999

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2018, 10:48:42 am »
I can't See any of my customers having jet washing done with a professional company if I offered a cheaper service with a karcher jet washing. They are not bothered how it's done they would even be happy if you got on your hands and knees and scrubbed it with a scrubbing brush 😁

Stoots

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2018, 11:43:38 am »
I think most customers would think it would be cheaper done by a window cleaner.

The same customer would probably ring a pressure washing company and pay a lot more because they are "professionals" it's all about image and marketing...


jk999

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2018, 02:12:52 pm »
In Yorkshire I don't think so

Dane

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2018, 04:17:26 pm »
I’ve just done another today, was good money.

I have on my website that I do them and they can be a very nice extra! Don’t get me wrong, there are people who want it doing for pence but I’m happy to walk away from them sorts of jobs as always

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2018, 10:21:00 pm »
I like doing pressure washing as add ones for existing customers I brought half average priced petrol and a kransel  rotary gizmo an good turbo nozzle with all the bits it was 800 sobs and first year paid me pack and I'm still using it 7 years on.

Slacky

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2018, 01:58:39 am »
Did this Friday.

This is half of it, there was some path as well. 2.5 hours. £285.00.

Got to go back and sand it.


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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2018, 12:25:55 pm »
Im not a fan or re sanding. I liked it for the first couple of times, especially on a nice warm day it was therapeutic. Now its a tedious chore and I try n get out of it if I can. I give two prices, one without me re sanding and i tell them its cheaper for them to do or else its labour n hassle of me doing so
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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #28 on: May 05, 2018, 12:33:47 pm »
I did a driveway a month or so ago where the customer re-sanded it afterwards. I went back to take a look a week later, looked bloody good!

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #29 on: May 05, 2018, 10:02:13 pm »
On the jet washing pages on ciu and other forums, sadly us window cleaners offering a jet washing service are not held in a favourable light. They feel we are karcher warriors and under pricing cowboys.
Lol, these are often broad sweeping statements as most of the time I find its the gardeners who are the karcher warriors  ;D ;D
This is a quick (less than a minute) vid of someones standard that ive been called out to quote and im also quoting to rectify their clean as well  ;D
But if were venturing into widening our cleaning services, please i beg dont use karchers and cheap petrol machines  ;D ;D ::)roll

https://youtu.be/wcGf4l0slxU
Sadly a lot of the Joe Public still consider window cleaners to be "on the fiddle", or doing it for beer money. So a window cleaner who does jet washing would possibly be considered the same. I advertise to my customers that I do jet washing, and have had a few jobs, now the better weather is arriving, iI will start promoting it more.Not using a Karcher either, Honda GX160,and it gives me back ache, but then window cleaning  gives me neck ache, not sure which is worse.
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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #30 on: May 05, 2018, 11:03:53 pm »
On the jet washing pages on ciu and other forums, sadly us window cleaners offering a jet washing service are not held in a favourable light. They feel we are karcher warriors and under pricing cowboys.
Lol, these are often broad sweeping statements as most of the time I find its the gardeners who are the karcher warriors  ;D ;D
This is a quick (less than a minute) vid of someones standard that ive been called out to quote and im also quoting to rectify their clean as well  ;D
But if were venturing into widening our cleaning services, please i beg dont use karchers and cheap petrol machines  ;D ;D ::)roll

https://youtu.be/wcGf4l0slxU
Sadly a lot of the Joe Public still consider window cleaners to be "on the fiddle", or doing it for beer money. So a window cleaner who does jet washing would possibly be considered the same.

Years ago I would agree with you but I think most are now viewed as far more professional since the introduction of wfp do t know why but that’s what I have found I think the mentality of some people is that the family car is used and a set of ladders and bucket makes the person look unprofessional and with some they are but not all , wfp is totaly different generaly you have a sighn written van dedicated to just work straight away you are more professional beacause of that in the customers eyes they see someone had invested in all the kit to do the job . I started out trad with a car and that was the way some viewed me but since going over to wfp and van there attitude is totaly different they view you like a tradesman





 I advertise to my customers that I do jet washing, and have had a few jobs, now the better weather is arriving, iI will start promoting it more.Not using a Karcher either, Honda GX160,and it gives me back ache, but then window cleaning  gives me neck ache, not sure which is worse.

Slacky

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #31 on: May 06, 2018, 08:44:35 am »
On the jet washing pages on ciu and other forums, sadly us window cleaners offering a jet washing service are not held in a favourable light. They feel we are karcher warriors and under pricing cowboys.
Lol, these are often broad sweeping statements as most of the time I find its the gardeners who are the karcher warriors  ;D ;D
This is a quick (less than a minute) vid of someones standard that ive been called out to quote and im also quoting to rectify their clean as well  ;D
But if were venturing into widening our cleaning services, please i beg dont use karchers and cheap petrol machines  ;D ;D ::)roll

https://youtu.be/wcGf4l0slxU
Sadly a lot of the Joe Public still consider window cleaners to be "on the fiddle", or doing it for beer money. So a window cleaner who does jet washing would possibly be considered the same. I advertise to my customers that I do jet washing, and have had a few jobs, now the better weather is arriving, iI will start promoting it more.Not using a Karcher either, Honda GX160,and it gives me back ache, but then window cleaning  gives me neck ache, not sure which is worse.

I find using a turbo nozzle does my arms in. But do they eat up the dirt! Really impressive!

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #32 on: May 06, 2018, 08:53:28 am »
On the jet washing pages on ciu and other forums, sadly us window cleaners offering a jet washing service are not held in a favourable light. They feel we are karcher warriors and under pricing cowboys.
Lol, these are often broad sweeping statements as most of the time I find its the gardeners who are the karcher warriors  ;D ;D
This is a quick (less than a minute) vid of someones standard that ive been called out to quote and im also quoting to rectify their clean as well  ;D
But if were venturing into widening our cleaning services, please i beg dont use karchers and cheap petrol machines  ;D ;D ::)roll

https://youtu.be/wcGf4l0slxU
Sadly a lot of the Joe Public still consider window cleaners to be "on the fiddle", or doing it for beer money. So a window cleaner who does jet washing would possibly be considered the same. I advertise to my customers that I do jet washing, and have had a few jobs, now the better weather is arriving, iI will start promoting it more.Not using a Karcher either, Honda GX160,and it gives me back ache, but then window cleaning  gives me neck ache, not sure which is worse.

Ideally you need a gx390 or Loncin g420 with 21 litres per minute. That saves the back as the work is so quick.

I used to use a 15lpm machine which was good, but having a 21 lpm machine is night and day.

As for window cleaners being seen as karcher warriors, I have a 2nd website dedicated to pressure washing, yet most of my pressure washing comes from the window cleaning page, no idea why as they both rank high.

Doesn’t bother me though, it’s excellent money, just messy and a bit of a faff to pack up 

Smudger

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Re: Window cleaners doing jet washing
« Reply #33 on: May 08, 2018, 02:55:14 pm »
Honda 160 is NEARLY as bad as a Karcher  ;D

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