[Jimmy Jon]

Not window cleaning related but look what happens if a gas canister explodes in your van. Happened earlier today, the guy was very lucky.

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/shocking-aftermath-explosion-redland-put-40054

[Smurf]

The bottle did not explode the gas leaked and went bang much like this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD4gIgVQD14

Well they do say smoking can kill.  lol

[martin hulstone]

Well done for posting. Maybe a wake up call for all the people who put a gas canister in there van  thinking it will be ok . I would find it very unlikely his insurance company will replace his van.

[Smurf]

Transporting a gas bottle is not illegal now is it so if the chap is fully comp I can't see why they would not pay up.

[Jimmy Jon]

The bottle did not explode the gas leaked and went bang much like this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD4gIgVQD14

Well they do say smoking can kill.  lol

Good video! 

[martin hulstone]

Not illegal to transport, but I would imagine illegal to use in the van unless you have the insurance to prove otherwise. Don't caravans/ motor homes carry the bottles externally?

[martin hulstone]

Calor gas own website states that all gas bottles should not be used inside a vehicle andstowed outside.

[Smurf]

Not illegal to transport, but I would imagine illegal to use in the van unless you have the insurance to prove otherwise. Don't caravans/ motor homes carry the bottles externally?

This is a gas hot water van mount and no the gas bottle is not external http://www.concept2o.com/services.htm

[Smurf]

Calor gas own website states that all gas bottles should not be used inside a vehicle andstowed outside.

Funny you say that as this too is a calor gas approved hot water install used for wfp.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSsRn6PwZ-w

Peeps do have a choice but we all know gas carries  a higher risk than a diesel fired webasto type water heater.

[martin hulstone]

Calor gas own website states that all gas bottles should not be used inside a vehicle andstowed outside.

Funny you say that as this too is a calor gas approved hot water install used for wfp.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSsRn6PwZ-w
Firstly,  the gas bottle involved has been secured in a galvanised box, most window cleaners just open the back door. secondly, by uk law ,carryng compressed gas in a van has to have a rotating rooftop device, and third the gas bottle has to be isolated for every journey.
How many window cleaners do that, and also he does not stipulate what rules give him a calor gas approved licence to use it.








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Peeps do have a choice but we all know gas carries  a higher risk than a diesel fired webasto type water heater.

[martin hulstone]

Not illegal to transport, but I would imagine illegal to use in the van unless you have the insurance to prove otherwise. Don't caravans/ motor homes carry the bottles externally?

This is a gas hot water van mount and no the gas bottle is not external http://www.concept2o.com/services.htm

Its a website. If i said i was the best window cleaner in the world on my websites, is that what i am???

[Smurf]

Ionic's very first hot water systems were actually gas water heaters before some bright spark decided that they where dangerous. lol

[martin hulstone]

Probably why they are diesel now.

[Smurf]

Indeed.

[Plankton]

Seen worse pics from acetylene disasters, all that was left from one chaps van was the guys hand or finger with a ring on the gear numpty! (auto corrected gear k n o b) it's not a bad word is it?
BOC Gases also shut down a rail line and wreaked their depot down south from an acetylene cylinder that fell over!

[Tom White]

The bottle did not explode the gas leaked and went bang much like this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD4gIgVQD14

Well they do say smoking can kill.  lol

I wish I could give you two likes for that one.   

[Plankton]

The bottle did not explode the gas leaked and went bang much like this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD4gIgVQD14

Well they do say smoking can kill.  lol

I wish I could give you two likes for that one.   

Michael Caine springs to mind.

[robert mitchell]

Not illegal to transport, but I would imagine illegal to use in the van unless you have the insurance to prove otherwise. Don't caravans/ motor homes carry the bottles externally?

This is a gas hot water van mount and no the gas bottle is not external http://www.concept2o.com/services.htm

I think you will find the gas tank is external on these , a proper lpg tank that you can fill at a petrol staion with autogas.

[Tosh]

Calor gas own website states that all gas bottles should not be used inside a vehicle andstowed outside.

Where's that then?

[martin hulstone]

Under calor gas technical advise page. It also states it is not to be used near anything electrical so the use of a pump would also deem it unfit to be used in the van really.

[Spruce]

Motorhomes can't have their gas bottles outside like a caravan does.
But they are in a compartment sealed to the inside. Its only accessible from the outside and has vent holes in the floor should gas leak. This is an approved method of carrying gas in a motorhome.

Nowadays the trend seems to be toward model specific under slung LPG vapour tanks with the fittings in a valve box and sealed cover with a vent pipe. At one time these tanks could be fitted inside as well with the appropriate brackets. The valve box would be vented outside through a hole in the floor. Not sure if this is still legal or if vehicle specific under slung tanks are the way to go to save space.   

Reach2clean in the south (I think the business has now folded) used to offer a sealed cabinet to put the gas cylinder in vented through the floor with the gas heater above it. They built a similar system to Arthur at Sureclean systems but they vented their heater through the roof.   I don't know if Arthur's cabinet is sealed.

[Marc Stock]

Arthur will polish it out.

https://youtu.be/UliP8lREHv4

[martin hulstone]

Motorhomes can't have their gas bottles outside like a caravan does.
But they are in a compartment sealed to the inside. Its only accessible from the outside and has vent holes in the floor should gas leak. This is an approved method of carrying gas in a motorhome.

Nowadays the trend seems to be toward model specific under slung LPG vapour tanks with the fittings in a valve box and sealed cover with a vent pipe. At one time these tanks could be fitted inside as well with the appropriate brackets. The valve box would be vented outside through a hole in the floor. Not sure if this is still legal or if vehicle specific under slung tanks are the way to go to save space.   

Reach2clean in the south (I think the business has now folded) used to offer a sealed cabinet to put the gas cylinder in vented through the floor with the gas heater above it. They built a similar system to Arthur at Sureclean systems but they vented their heater through the roof.   I don't know if Arthur's cabinet is sealed.

Very informative post, thank-you.

[Spruce]

Arthur will polish it out.

https://youtu.be/UliP8lREHv4

I watched most of the videos on his channel. I think he's brilliant.

[Tosh]

Under calor gas technical advise page. It also states it is not to be used near anything electrical so the use of a pump would also deem it unfit to be used in the van really.

Have you got a link for that please?

[Dry Clean]

Your allowed to carry a certain weight/amount of gas in a vehicle such as a van or car, but I would be very surprised if
you would be allowed to run a gas appliance in the vehicle especially if unattended and in a built up area.
Unfortunately it one of those things where we will never know the truth until the worst happens, but I honestly believe its only a
matter of time before some Clampet with a cheap fleebay water heater answers all our questions/ concerns.

[dazmond]

after the other months gas leak i wont be using a gas heater again.it really shook me up!i took my gas bottle back and took the heater to the tip.ive already saved myself £150 in gas in 3 months.ive not missed the hot water one bit.

[The Jester of Wibbly]

Motorhomes can't have their gas bottles outside like a caravan does.
But they are in a compartment sealed to the inside. Its only accessible from the outside and has vent holes in the floor should gas leak. This is an approved method of carrying gas in a motorhome.

Nowadays the trend seems to be toward model specific under slung LPG vapour tanks with the fittings in a valve box and sealed cover with a vent pipe. At one time these tanks could be fitted inside as well with the appropriate brackets. The valve box would be vented outside through a hole in the floor. Not sure if this is still legal or if vehicle specific under slung tanks are the way to go to save space.   

Reach2clean in the south (I think the business has now folded) used to offer a sealed cabinet to put the gas cylinder in vented through the floor with the gas heater above it. They built a similar system to Arthur at Sureclean systems but they vented their heater through the roof.   I don't know if Arthur's cabinet is sealed.

Good post.

Also the gas canister is placed into saftey mode whilst in transit with the safty cap.

[EandM]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Alfaques_disaster

 

[Dave Willis]

Did he have the cylinder in the cab then? Looks like the door was blown off and  the roof but the bulkhead is still there? Bet he's a bit deaf in the left ear now 

[Dave Willis]

Actually, looking again at those pics ..... how on earth did he survive that?

[Spruce]

Actually, looking again at those pics ..... how on earth did he survive that?

That is unbelievable tbh. But that link Smurf put up also has the lad climb out of the van without a seeming injury. It also blew the windscreen out.

[Tosh]

Did he have the cylinder in the cab then? Looks like the door was blown off and  the roof but the bulkhead is still there? Bet he's a bit deaf in the left ear now 

It certainly looks that way. I think the insurance company might bale on him on this one. He had the gas on and connected to a BBQ in the cab. Also it would've been unsecured. I wonder if he's a smoker.

[k.diver]

yeh bet hes a smoker