trippyboy

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Gas bottle
« on: December 29, 2016, 06:15:39 pm »
Just got through my very first gas bottle 19kg calour gas. It lasted 19 days window cleaning . Really pleased with that, so glad i went over to hot, its just fantastic to work with, will never go back to cold again

Smurf

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Re: Gas bottle
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2016, 06:29:50 pm »
Told you so springs to mind

trippyboy

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Re: Gas bottle
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2016, 07:18:48 pm »

mufcglen

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Re: Gas bottle
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2016, 08:17:36 pm »
Can't beat the hot water,surprising how much difference it makes to the clean!
Check out this website I've started using after Somone posted a deal they did,they was doing 19kg bottles for £22 delivered, up to £32 inc £5 on return of bottle but they deliver  quite quickly and who knows they might do those cheap bottles again!!
http://gasdeal.co.uk

SeanK

Re: Gas bottle
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2016, 10:51:07 pm »
Can't beat the hot water,surprising how much difference it makes to the clean!
Check out this website I've started using after Somone posted a deal they did,they was doing 19kg bottles for £22 delivered, up to £32 inc £5 on return of bottle but they deliver  quite quickly and who knows they might do those cheap bottles again!!
http://gasdeal.co.uk

What difference does it make to the clean ?

8weekly

Re: Gas bottle
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2016, 10:44:45 am »
Can't beat the hot water,surprising how much difference it makes to the clean!
Check out this website I've started using after Somone posted a deal they did,they was doing 19kg bottles for £22 delivered, up to £32 inc £5 on return of bottle but they deliver  quite quickly and who knows they might do those cheap bottles again!!
http://gasdeal.co.uk

What difference does it make to the clean ?
Got to be quicker on stubborn marks. Washing up is quicker with hot water. Don't use it myself, but probably would if still a sole trader as it must feel nice in the cold. My fingers really feel the cold.

SeanK

Re: Gas bottle
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2016, 11:01:38 am »
Can't beat the hot water,surprising how much difference it makes to the clean!
Check out this website I've started using after Somone posted a deal they did,they was doing 19kg bottles for £22 delivered, up to £32 inc £5 on return of bottle but they deliver  quite quickly and who knows they might do those cheap bottles again!!
http://gasdeal.co.uk

What difference does it make to the clean ?
Got to be quicker on stubborn marks. Washing up is quicker with hot water. Don't use it myself, but probably would if still a sole trader as it must feel nice in the cold. My fingers really feel the cold.

Yes but that wouldn't make a difference to the clean other than maybe make it slightly quicker, I have a gas campervan
on demand water heater which I tried out for a few days and didn't find anything other than the comfort factor that would make me want to use it full time.

Google cleaning with hot water, there are very mixed science boffin opinions on its ability to clean better when not submerging the item in it,
I certainly didn't find it much extra help when trying it on stubborn hard to remove bird poo.

mufcglen

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Re: Gas bottle
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2016, 11:18:32 am »
I found it definately gives a better scrub on the glass and helps get the snail trails off easier too, even in summer it softens those stubborn little yellow bug spots we get!!
Well worth the £25-30 a month-ish extra to run it in my books as I find it helps me clean quicker.
I spoke to a carpet cleaning guy and he says the same thing in his line of business hot water makes a big difference to cold water!
I say to people imagine cleaning the dishes with fairy and cold water it stays all greasy and solid then use hot water everything just melts away

Tosh

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Re: Gas bottle
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2016, 11:18:58 am »
There’s a whole range of benefits, more thorough cleaning is one of them.
*A HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE - THE SHORT STORY* 'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.'

Tosh

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Re: Gas bottle
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2016, 11:21:19 am »
Google cleaning with hot water

Just did using those specific words. And the first page appears to be littered with comments suggesting cleaning with hot water is more effective than cold water.
*A HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE - THE SHORT STORY* 'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.'

Tosh

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*A HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE - THE SHORT STORY* 'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.'

Stoots

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Re: Gas bottle
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2016, 01:25:48 pm »
C.H.A.T

Chemical
Heat
Agitation
Time (dwell)

More of any one of those and the better the clean.

We cant use chemicals and we don't want to add time ( tried soaking a bird poo before then going back to it s second time and it comes off much easier )

So more heat and better scrubbing power equals a faster clean

Youre welcome for the info

End of topic

Smurf

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Re: Gas bottle
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2016, 04:08:46 pm »
"We cant use chemicals"  how come?  ::)roll

I often use heat and chems too especially on filthy exterior property deep cleans not just glass.

8weekly

Re: Gas bottle
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2016, 06:29:47 pm »
"We cant use chemicals"  how come?  ::)roll

On windows I think that's correct.

Frankybadboy

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Re: Gas bottle
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2016, 06:37:57 pm »
"We cant use chemicals"  how come?  ::)roll

I often use heat and chems too especially on filthy exterior property deep cleans not just glass.
didnt get that  myself

use chems on 1st cleans and deep cleans and no problems  ;)

SeanK

Re: Gas bottle
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2016, 07:37:02 pm »
There’s a whole range of benefits, more thorough cleaning is one of them.

What are you removing from the glass and frames that cold users aren't ?

SeanK

Re: Gas bottle
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2016, 07:47:24 pm »
There will be guys who cant use Xtreme brushes, clean without additives, clean without hot or a flat out flow and they will all argue its their way or no way, not one of them will have evidence proving their cleaning is any better than the guy using the Xtreme
brush and cold.
Don't get me wrong I'm sure there will be guys ( on the coast is one example) who may benefit from hot but to the majority of
users it will be nothing more than a placebo.

the king

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Re: Gas bottle
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2016, 08:50:06 pm »
for me hot is beta because im on the coast lots of bird crap and salt on the glass hot has saved me lots of water and time also bee pollen melts off no scrubing like mad so quicker and less water again in use  if i worked on a 4 weekly on clean glass inland with no bee pollen then ide just use cold

Smurf

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Re: Gas bottle
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2016, 09:43:52 pm »
There will be guys who cant use Xtreme brushes, clean without additives, clean without hot or a flat out flow and they will all argue its their way or no way, not one of them will have evidence proving their cleaning is any better than the guy using the Xtreme
brush and cold.
Don't get me wrong I'm sure there will be guys ( on the coast is one example) who may benefit from hot but to the majority of
users it will be nothing more than a placebo.

Placebo my arse  ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3Qanob6u_M

SeanK

Re: Gas bottle
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2016, 10:21:41 pm »
There will be guys who cant use Xtreme brushes, clean without additives, clean without hot or a flat out flow and they will all argue its their way or no way, not one of them will have evidence proving their cleaning is any better than the guy using the Xtreme
brush and cold.
Don't get me wrong I'm sure there will be guys ( on the coast is one example) who may benefit from hot but to the majority of
users it will be nothing more than a placebo.

Placebo my arse  ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3Qanob6u_M

Still not seeing anything I couldn't achieve with an Xtreme stiff and cold, or even better if I could get access to a customers tap
with a decent bit of water pressure.
Nice video though.