Spruce

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Re: Most Efficient / Quickest Setup
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2016, 08:01:02 pm »
I don't think you can beat my setup for speed.

100meters microbore attached onto 30meters of pole hose connected via push fit fittings.

Roller System through the floor which has just been upgraded and a bloody perfect so far.

All on an electric power up HD reel. 

Pole goes onto the roof between jobs and has done for 6 years now.

Turn up at house. Pull hose out. Pull hose to turn water on. Clean. Back to van. Wind hose in via button. Pole on roof. Drive off. Simples.

Just done a new shape connect with the same setup as one man setup. It's so dam fast it's unreal.

I was wondering how the new roller system was performing? Come on, slip ther beans.  ;D
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Stoots

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Re: Most Efficient / Quickest Setup
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2016, 08:05:51 pm »
Snagging hose and puliing it round obstacles avoiding wheelie bins and plant pots etc is the slowest part, i owuld say the van setup is less important, i.e powered reel or not.

I personally find backpack quicker on a lot of jobs, if you use a bilge pump it can be filled it 20 secs or so. Theres a lot to be said to just lifting up a backpack and pole and away you go.

The easiest way to speed up is finding a solution for each job, mainly the direction you park

Clever Forum Name

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Re: Most Efficient / Quickest Setup
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2016, 08:06:26 pm »
It's nothing new that hasn't been done before. It was just built and designed round the van.

Grippa had brackets made for the van to sit under the van to allow the new rollers to be fitted. The rollers are based on the winch design so pulling straight out or to the side is a breeze.

I have two rollers under the van. Two rollers in the van. Then a roller leading onto the reel. It makes for a bit of drag but both reels cope easily.  Powerful vs speed.

The self spooling device and layering device is next to go on. I scraped the pivot idea as it's just not needed.

Spruce

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Re: Most Efficient / Quickest Setup
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2016, 08:07:04 pm »
Thanks for that reply Spruce

I wouldn't time customers who talk to me,  well maybe just the boring ones!  ;D

It's more to be as efficient as possible with the majority of my time, without that making me for example turn down a 5 minute chat here and there that I'd like to have.

I like the points you make, especially about having two 'identical' semis but one being longer than the other that's very true. I'm more looking to speed up anything I can control and not worry too much about the bits that I can't help. 

Of course as you mention, it can be a case of everyone is different and how they work wouldn't necessarily be someones ideal.

In this example the cleaner has upped the price of the identical house that takes longer. Just tells the customer that although the neighbours house is the same, your price is now higher because ................

As Smurf posted, its more about pricing you are happy with as apposed to how fast you can do the job. Its less costly to increase the price than to buy special equipment so you can work quicker and charge the same.

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Spruce

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Re: Most Efficient / Quickest Setup
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2016, 08:11:19 pm »
It's nothing new that hasn't been done before. It was just built and designed round the van.

Grippa had brackets made for the van to sit under the van to allow the new rollers to be fitted. The rollers are based on the winch design so pulling straight out or to the side is a breeze.

I have two rollers under the van. Two rollers in the van. Then a roller leading onto the reel. It makes for a bit of drag but both reels cope easily.  Powerful vs speed.

The self spooling device and layering device is next to go on. I scraped the pivot idea as it's just not needed.

Thanks. I like the mention of a layering devise because I think thats what is missing on all electric reels. Nat was working on the concept before he took up web designing. He keeps threatening to revisit it but it all about time and what more important.

Rollers under the van are always going to wear prematurely as they are subject to all the road grime splashed up by the road wheels.
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TomSE

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Re: Most Efficient / Quickest Setup
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2016, 08:31:33 pm »
It's nothing new that hasn't been done before. It was just built and designed round the van.

Grippa had brackets made for the van to sit under the van to allow the new rollers to be fitted. The rollers are based on the winch design so pulling straight out or to the side is a breeze.

I have two rollers under the van. Two rollers in the van. Then a roller leading onto the reel. It makes for a bit of drag but both reels cope easily.  Powerful vs speed.

The self spooling device and layering device is next to go on. I scraped the pivot idea as it's just not needed.



Hi mate, are you likely to do a video of your new setups? Would be very interested to see them since it was your original video with Lee Burbidge that got me intrigued.

Cheers, Tom


Clever Forum Name

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Re: Most Efficient / Quickest Setup
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2016, 08:42:57 pm »
If I have time I will sort something out.

TomSE

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Re: Most Efficient / Quickest Setup
« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2016, 09:02:09 pm »
Thanks mate would be  interested to see that & much appreciated, if you don't find the time then no worries at all  :)

Plankton

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Re: Most Efficient / Quickest Setup
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2016, 09:04:22 pm »
We've spent 10 years refining our pick up design (currently it's Defenders but we are switching to Isuzu Dmaxs). We have 2 vans too (1 transit 1 transit connect), in my experience the pick up can't be beaten on speed of delivery.
Do you have a picture of the pickup setup?

Re: Most Efficient / Quickest Setup
« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2016, 10:04:02 am »
We've spent 10 years refining our pick up design (currently it's Defenders but we are switching to Isuzu Dmaxs). We have 2 vans too (1 transit 1 transit connect), in my experience the pick up can't be beaten on speed of delivery.
Do you have a picture of the pickup setup?
I hate to admit it but Soupy is right  :D

I have a ranger pick up with hard top canopy. My set up is way faster than my old van ever was. I work from it with tailgate up and a mounted proloc reel just behind it - perfect height for reeling back in ! I can reel out directly straight or up to a 90 degree angle left or right from it by running the hose through a winch roller guide fitted to a wooden foot plate I made that's bolted to the bracket where the tow bar once was. I've used 100 meters of reinforced pole hose  plus a few meters of exceed blue on a tubeless set up with a uni valve. I'd take a picture but trucks in garage today having a new clutch.

Soupy

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Re: Most Efficient / Quickest Setup
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2016, 10:06:42 am »
We've spent 10 years refining our pick up design (currently it's Defenders but we are switching to Isuzu Dmaxs). We have 2 vans too (1 transit 1 transit connect), in my experience the pick up can't be beaten on speed of delivery.
Do you have a picture of the pickup setup?

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NWH

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Re: Most Efficient / Quickest Setup
« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2016, 06:17:45 pm »
We spent 10 years turning our vehicles in to mobile tits lol 😂😂

Smurf

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Re: Most Efficient / Quickest Setup
« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2016, 10:34:14 pm »
We spent 10 years turning our vehicles in to mobile tits lol 😂😂

 ;D ;D

Soupy

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Re: Most Efficient / Quickest Setup
« Reply #33 on: October 14, 2016, 04:53:18 am »
We spent 10 years turning our vehicles in to mobile tits lol 😂😂

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