[trippyboy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_C4uZbRftw
Discuss 

[Rob@Blast off]

Diy ladder, no pouches and having to climb down for a rag 

[ChumBucket]

I like the bit at 3.16 where the plane thinks it's a dolphin!!

[trippyboy]

I like the bit at 3.16 where the plane thinks it's a dolphin!!

Good spot

[Fin Clearview]

1. that bay could easily be done in 2 pitches..
2. his squeegee work is terrible..look at the detailing he has to do leaving a trianguled patch of soap on each pane.
3. his mickey mouse ladder but top quality hoody 
4. coming down ladder for sill cloth

[Bungle]

Total amateur! Cheap ladders, missed bits when blading, parked ladders on the middle window too far to the left, no bags on his belt, used scrim in the middle of the glass after blading (why?), climbed further up the rungs than was safe, tried to be quick but didn't seem to have a rhythm. I turned it off before it finished. That was painful to watch!

[Fin Clearview]

Total amateur! Cheap ladders, missed bits when blading, parked ladders on the middle window too far to the left, no bags on his belt, used scrim in the middle of the glass after blading (why?), climbed further up the rungs than was safe, tried to be quick but didn't seem to have a rhythm. I turned it off before it finished. That was painful to watch!

he was trying to rub the plane out 

[Bungle]

Total amateur! Cheap ladders, missed bits when blading, parked ladders on the middle window too far to the left, no bags on his belt, used scrim in the middle of the glass after blading (why?), climbed further up the rungs than was safe, tried to be quick but didn't seem to have a rhythm. I turned it off before it finished. That was painful to watch!

he was trying to rub the plane out 

I read that as pane to start with 

[rosskesava]

With a pointed ladder that would have been so much quicker, safer and easier.

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Fin - solved the millionaires row puzzle. Will phone you at some point soon. I feel a right pratt.

[Window Lickers]

Is that Jakey?

[Clever Forum Name]

picked up a customer in Thursday because the trad cleaner doesn't use ladder mits

He has marked every sill on her new windows over a year.

Quality was good. But why do that.

She was upset when she spotted all the marks.

Deep a deep clean on sills. (Magic sponge with a cleaner)

Sills looked brand new.

[Dave Willis]

Much faster than waterfedpole though.

[Joey Eastwood]

deffinately an idiot. for a start triple extension ladders, why?? i agree that sort of building wfp every time, high bays like that.

its a shame some give the rest a bad name

[Clever Forum Name]

deffinately an idiot. for a start triple extension ladders, why?? i agree that sort of building wfp every time, high bays like that.

its a shame some give the rest a bad name

Some? That's the standard of most cleaners I see now.

All the good trad lads round here have gone WFP. The only trad lads I see are new starters and are worse than that.

I did some trad yesterday (nearly 3 hours) quality ped all over WFP.

I am seriously looking into doing some bottom windows Trad now.

[Joey Eastwood]

deffinately an idiot. for a start triple extension ladders, why?? i agree that sort of building wfp every time, high bays like that.

its a shame some give the rest a bad name

Some? That's the standard of most cleaners I see now.

All the good trad lads round here have gone WFP. The only trad lads I see are new starters and are worse than that.



I did some trad yesterday (nearly 3 hours) quality ped all over WFP.

I am seriously looking into doing some bottom windows Trad now.

dont say things like that the arsehole brigade will be here any mininute and bombard you with a tbousand comments about how trad is the devils work etc.. well i certainly wouldnt work like that, for a start it took him far too long, his ladders didnt look stable, bad technique, not safe at all

[Joey Eastwood]

besides he basically scrimmed every window lol why even wet the window in the first place if your gonna wipe down the whole pane of glass after... with your mums tea towel by the look of it haha. looks like beer money cleaner to me, as for fantastic cleaners tm on the back of his £5 hoody.. LOL. if that is what people think trad is no wonder so many on here slate it so much

[Dave Willis]

Top prices though for window cleaning. https://fantasticcleaners.com/

£35 minimum charge if it's the same company.

[Joey Eastwood]

Top prices though for window cleaning. https://fantasticcleaners.com/

£35 minimum charge if it's the same company.

lol i almost believed you until i looked on the website

[Clever Forum Name]

deffinately an idiot. for a start triple extension ladders, why?? i agree that sort of building wfp every time, high bays like that.

its a shame some give the rest a bad name

Some? That's the standard of most cleaners I see now.

All the good trad lads round here have gone WFP. The only trad lads I see are new starters and are worse than that.



I did some trad yesterday (nearly 3 hours) quality ped all over WFP.

I am seriously looking into doing some bottom windows Trad now.

dont say things like that the arsehole brigade will be here any mininute and bombard you with a tbousand comments about how trad is the devils work etc.. well i certainly wouldnt work like that, for a start it took him far too long, his ladders didnt look stable, bad technique, not safe at all

Unfortunately its true. I think trad does a better job to some degree and with the right work you can earn the same as wfp. The reason i went for wfp is;

Safety - That chap in the video looked like he was gonna wobble and fall off on the second ladder position.
Speed - He tried to be quick going up and down ladders, yet it undone him.
Sills and frames - I use clean water to clean sills/frames and are scrubbed not wiped.

The chap in that video is "new generation" of cleaners.

I have been WFP for around 5 years now and when i started it was HARD to get people to switch to WFP. This is because there was decent trad cleaners about. In my area, i was one of the first to swap over in busy villages. And my local competitors have now followed.
 
I have gone from an 2000 golf - 2001 boxer van - 2006 combo - 2014 transit custom all in the space of 4 years.

Other cleaners i see are doing the same.

I am not worried about losing work to trad cleaners as no decent ones exist now in my area. Now i am concentrating on keeping my WFP standard high.

With this i am trimming my work, keeping the best work, upping prices and no longer expanding. I will need to replace the work i drop or lose from them not accepting my price rises. I intend to stop all additional extra services and just solely concentrate on windows and just one other service i really enjoy

I have been watching a few WFP cleaners and i am now starting to see where they are poop and where they are better than me.

I "think" most guys hate trad on here as because there aint no decent ones left.

[Joey Eastwood]

where are you? i think a lot depends where you are really. where i am its 50/50 and alot of wfp guys have a bad name around here as bad cleaners, i regularly take one guys work who lives 5 streets away from me because he underprices because he does a bad job, i quote higher and do a good trad job, if i switched to wfp id probs be tarred with the likes of his brush..