[trippyboy]

Perhaps you might also want to mention your area

[PoleKing]

Get the ball rolling at least trippy...

[steve rix]

Is that hoses or pounds!

[steve rix]

houses

[8weekly]

Berkshire. Not saying what I put though. 

[deeege]

Great idea for a thread. We need more discussions about prices on here.  

Also, average what? Turnover or profit? A £20 average turnover per hour might look good on paper (to some) but in reality is little more than minimum wage (if paying Tax, Ni, insurances etc etc)

[trippyboy]

Great idea for a thread. We need more discussions about prices on here.  

Also, average what? Turnover or profit? A £20 average turnover per hour might look good on paper (to some) but in reality is little more than minimum wage (if paying Tax, Ni, insurances etc etc)

That would be gross mate

[David stewart]

Great idea for a thread. We need more discussions about prices on here.  

Also, average what? Turnover or profit? A £20 average turnover per hour might look good on paper (to some) but in reality is little more than minimum wage (if paying Tax, Ni, insurances etc etc)

There's a few Facebook pages set up for window cleaning chat and I've been thinking the same thing, people boasting about how much they earn and what would ya charge for this and that etc.
It's all well and good on a forum like this that non window cleaners aren't likely to visit but on Facebook one like and all your friend list could be on having a nosey.

Was doing a house the other day and unbeknown to the man of the house, his wife had left the door open and I could hear him giving off something shocking about the amount she paid for her windows to be cleaned with a brush and a squirt of water and only there half an hour lol! They don't take into consideration all the costs after that which would leave things a lot less appealing if they really sat and thought about it 

[Don Kee]

Great idea for a thread. We need more discussions about prices on here.  

Also, average what? Turnover or profit? A £20 average turnover per hour might look good on paper (to some) but in reality is little more than minimum wage (if paying Tax, Ni, insurances etc etc)

That would be gross mate

Its not that disgusting mate, in fact i'd say it's a fair comment...

 

[trippyboy]

Great idea for a thread. We need more discussions about prices on here.  

Also, average what? Turnover or profit? A £20 average turnover per hour might look good on paper (to some) but in reality is little more than minimum wage (if paying Tax, Ni, insurances etc etc)

That would be gross mate

Its not that disgusting mate, in fact i'd say it's a fair comment...

 

[deeege]

Great idea for a thread. We need more discussions about prices on here.  

Also, average what? Turnover or profit? A £20 average turnover per hour might look good on paper (to some) but in reality is little more than minimum wage (if paying Tax, Ni, insurances etc etc)

There's a few Facebook pages set up for window cleaning chat and I've been thinking the same thing, people boasting about how much they earn and what would ya charge for this and that etc.
It's all well and good on a forum like this that non window cleaners aren't likely to visit but on Facebook one like and all your friend list could be on having a nosey.

Was doing a house the other day and unbeknown to the man of the house, his wife had left the door open and I could hear him giving off something shocking about the amount she paid for her windows to be cleaned with a brush and a squirt of water and only there half an hour lol! They don't take into consideration all the costs after that which would leave things a lot less appealing if they really sat and thought about it 

Agree.

Was working on site the other day listening to 2 carpet fitters discussing the best trades to be in at the moment. One guy knew a fella who's a window cleaner and charges £10 per house and can do 4 an hour. He went on to say wouldn't it be great taking home £40 per hour. That's how the ignorant think.

These discussions about prices really need to stop. But they won't....

[PoleKing]

Great idea for a thread. We need more discussions about prices on here.  

Also, average what? Turnover or profit? A £20 average turnover per hour might look good on paper (to some) but in reality is little more than minimum wage (if paying Tax, Ni, insurances etc etc)

There's a few Facebook pages set up for window cleaning chat and I've been thinking the same thing, people boasting about how much they earn and what would ya charge for this and that etc.
It's all well and good on a forum like this that non window cleaners aren't likely to visit but on Facebook one like and all your friend list could be on having a nosey.

Was doing a house the other day and unbeknown to the man of the house, his wife had left the door open and I could hear him giving off something shocking about the amount she paid for her windows to be cleaned with a brush and a squirt of water and only there half an hour lol! They don't take into consideration all the costs after that which would leave things a lot less appealing if they really sat and thought about it 

Agree.

Was working on site the other day listening to 2 carpet fitters discussing the best trades to be in at the moment. One guy knew a fella who's a window cleaner and charges £10 per house and can do 4 an hour. He went on to say wouldn't it be great taking home £40 per hour. That's how the ignorant think.

These discussions about prices really need to stop. But they won't....

It's not long before they always decend into farce.
I like 'em

[SeanK]

Have to agree they start of with horrendous prices and follow it up with horrendous
expenses to justify the nonsense.
But I like reading them also.

[SeanK]

Great idea for a thread. We need more discussions about prices on here.  

Also, average what? Turnover or profit? A £20 average turnover per hour might look good on paper (to some) but in reality is little more than minimum wage (if paying Tax, Ni, insurances etc etc)

To someone on £10 an hour who has to drive 20 miles a day and also pay parking charges all from taxed money
it would look alright.
Why do some on here assume its only self employed people who have expenses and pay taxes.

[deeege]

Great idea for a thread. We need more discussions about prices on here.  

Also, average what? Turnover or profit? A £20 average turnover per hour might look good on paper (to some) but in reality is little more than minimum wage (if paying Tax, Ni, insurances etc etc)

To someone on £10 an hour who has to drive 20 miles a day and also pay parking charges all from taxed money
it would look alright.
Why do some on here assume its only self employed people who have expenses and pay taxes.

I know that employed people have expenses too, Sean. They don't have anywhere near the overheads as a self employed person though do they? (Liability insurance, accountants fees etc)

[SeanK]

Great idea for a thread. We need more discussions about prices on here.  

Also, average what? Turnover or profit? A £20 average turnover per hour might look good on paper (to some) but in reality is little more than minimum wage (if paying Tax, Ni, insurances etc etc)

To someone on £10 an hour who has to drive 20 miles a day and also pay parking charges all from taxed money
it would look alright.
Why do some on here assume its only self employed people who have expenses and pay taxes.

I know that employed people have expenses too, Sean. They don't have anywhere near the overheads as a self employed person though do they? (Liability insurance, accountants fees etc)

Believe it or not I am paying less now in expenses than when I was employed and PAYE.
When I was employed I needed a second car I now need a van so costs are equal.
I was driving 40 miles a day I now drive about 5 sometimes less.
I was paying tax on all my earning I now pay after expenses.
The only real difference is not getting 6 weeks paid holidays but the difference in fuel costs over the year
more than equals that out.

[deeege]

Great idea for a thread. We need more discussions about prices on here.  

Also, average what? Turnover or profit? A £20 average turnover per hour might look good on paper (to some) but in reality is little more than minimum wage (if paying Tax, Ni, insurances etc etc)

To someone on £10 an hour who has to drive 20 miles a day and also pay parking charges all from taxed money
it would look alright.
Why do some on here assume its only self employed people who have expenses and pay taxes.

I know that employed people have expenses too, Sean. They don't have anywhere near the overheads as a self employed person though do they? (Liability insurance, accountants fees etc)

Believe it or not I am paying less now in expenses than when I was employed and PAYE.
When I was employed I needed a second car I now need a van so costs are equal.
I was driving 40 miles a day I now drive about 5 sometimes less.
I was paying tax on all my earning I now pay after expenses.
The only real difference is not getting 6 weeks paid holidays but the difference in fuel costs over the year
more than equals that out.

How much were your accountants fees when you were employed? Now?
How much were your insurance public liability costs when you were employed? Now?
Stationary, printer ink, van maintenance, water production, bad weather days, holiday pay..... The list goes on.

I struggle to see how your expenses can be less when being employed tbh. (Unless you're a tradder with no water production, insurance, accounts, tax etc.)

[cgh window cleaning]

I have never known a trade to talk more openly about what they earn than window cleaners.I have very good friends that own building and electrical companies with 10 plus staff and they never tell me what they earn,I meet window cleaners I don't know tell me how many customers they have how much they charge,what car they have at home etc.
When I started cleaning windows in 1996 I did not know any friends that cleaned windows for a living,now more and more are getting into it I know of an electrician,landscaper,bt engineer,graphic designer plus more all get into window cleaning.

[PoleKing]

I have never known a trade to talk more openly about what they earn than window cleaners.I have very good friends that own building and electrical companies with 10 plus staff and they never tell me what they earn,I meet window cleaners I don't know tell me how many customers they have how much they charge,what car they have at home etc.
When I started cleaning windows in 1996 I did not know any friends that cleaned windows for a living,now more and more are getting into it I know of an electrician,landscaper,bt engineer,graphic designer plus more all get into window cleaning.

The thing is, the more people tell you they're earning-the less they are.

[Soupy]

I have never known a trade to talk more openly about what they earn than window cleaners.I have very good friends that own building and electrical companies with 10 plus staff and they never tell me what they earn,I meet window cleaners I don't know tell me how many customers they have how much they charge,what car they have at home etc.
When I started cleaning windows in 1996 I did not know any friends that cleaned windows for a living,now more and more are getting into it I know of an electrician,landscaper,bt engineer,graphic designer plus more all get into window cleaning.

The thing is, the more people tell you they're earning-the less they are.

+1

And if they tell you "yeah, I drive an Audi Q8" what they actually mean is "i have a push bike made in Germany, with materials from Kuwait"