[Smurf]

I've been doing a bit of k rend cleaning now and then but not really cleaned anything really bad apart from the usual green stuff.

What would you suggest best methods and products to use on this one?

Also roughly how much would you charge for a 3 bed detached?

Many thanks .

[Smurf]

Front & back don't seem so bad as the gable ends but still all 4 sides need cleaning properly.

[chris scott]

Bleach and a brush.

[Smurf]

I was thinking of trying algoclear pro on that one myself Chris.
What do you recon?

[the king]

i dont do a lot but if i was to price that ide go £400/£500 ish mark as for cems i think hypo would be the choice  on a non breezy day or blackwash if u wana play it safe

[the king]

im gesing u would go in a lot higher tho alan

[Smurf]

im gesing u would go in a lot higher tho alan

I was thinking myself around the £400 mark as there are plenty of k rend properties nearby that needs cleaning too.
I'm sure with the right set up you could do at least two or maybe 3 in a day.

I would be quite content with say a gross turnover of 800 - 1400 a day doing softwashing and not bother do anything else.
1 or 2 days a week of course as I'm no that greedy nor would I want to work my socks off full time either

[ascjim]

im gesing u would go in a lot higher tho alan

I was thinking myself around the £400 mark as there are plenty of k rend properties nearby that needs cleaning too.
I'm sure with the right set up you could do at least two or maybe 3 in a day.

I would be quite content with say a gross turnover of 800 - 1400 a day doing softwashing and not bother do anything else.
1 or 2 days a week of course as I'm no that greedy nor would I want to work my socks off full time either

There is mega bucks in render cleaning

[chris scott]

im gesing u would go in a lot higher tho alan

I was thinking myself around the £400 mark as there are plenty of k rend properties nearby that needs cleaning too.
I'm sure with the right set up you could do at least two or maybe 3 in a day.

I would be quite content with say a gross turnover of 800 - 1400 a day doing softwashing and not bother do anything else.
1 or 2 days a week of course as I'm no that greedy nor would I want to work my socks off full time either

There is mega bucks in render cleaning

As long as the insurance is footing the bill…it's easy. Don't know why anybody bothers with anything else.

[Smurf]

Chris, I'm not implying it's easy as I will have to learn how to do it properly & foremost safely hence why the post asking for advice.

[chris scott]

Chris, I'm not implying it's easy as I will have to learn how to do it properly & foremost safely hence why the post asking for advice.

Use Metaclear  , not Algoclear on that one.

[simonr]

i did a test patch of algoclear pro on this & nothing happened at all ?

[chris scott]

Simonr  http://render-cleaning.co/black-fungi/

[simonr]

cheers chris, they want it done cos  they are selling up & i had algoclear from another job  & the lad said it would do this but it hasn't .  they wont pay  much   so i doubt it would be worth anyone coming from liverpool, i'm trying to find out if hypo would do it as the softwash crew on fb said it would if i used their mix

[Smurf]

Chris, I'm not implying it's easy as I will have to learn how to do it properly & foremost safely hence why the post asking for advice.

Use Metaclear  , not Algoclear on that one.

Thanks Chris, I can't find much info about metaclear but I take it is a gel based sh solution that can be applied via wfp method too?

[chris scott]

cheers chris, they want it done cos  they are selling up & i had algoclear from another job  & the lad said it would do this but it hasn't .  they wont pay  much   so i doubt it would be worth anyone coming from liverpool, i'm trying to find out if hypo would do it as the softwash crew on fb said it would if i used their mix

Metaclear or bleach and wallpaper paste.

[Smurf]

cheers chris, they want it done cos  they are selling up & i had algoclear from another job  & the lad said it would do this but it hasn't .  they wont pay  much   so i doubt it would be worth anyone coming from liverpool, i'm trying to find out if hypo would do it as the softwash crew on fb said it would if i used their mix

Metaclear or bleach and wallpaper paste.

I just found this

MetaClear

MetaClear is a non penetrating gel formulated for removing black discolouration from render and masonry without impregnation. Brush on and rinse, the gel is fast acting and low odour.

MetaClear lubricates the brush and limits the risk of surface abrasion. The detergency is achieved through the action of sodium hypochlorite and the sequestration of impurities in the gel.

MetaClear is used before or after the AlgoClear treatment. If the surface is too contaminated, it is preferable to open the pores first and soak the render after. In many other instances, the AlgoClear treatment is carried out first and the remaining marks either left to recede naturally, or removed with MetaClear.

The delivery system consists in pumping the MetaClear up a pole into a brush. The product is then rinsed.


So in other words it's just sh mixed with wallpaer paste as algoclear don't seem to remover black metabolic .
My question is now why bother with algoclear at all then

[Smurf]

What seems funny to me how algoclear was dead against sh and was publically bashing other sh suppliers selling it for render cleaning etc but now is supplying it themselves under the name of metaclear... Go figure 

Probably they soon realized they were losing quite a bit of business to the likes of Benz so quickly worked on new products to be more competitive who knows?

[chris scott]

Metaclear is a gel for localised stain removal…not for spraying .Metaclear  part of a full render cleaning package, bio-cide , graffiti remover,stain remover, tannin remover and a breathable sealer …for sandstone window cills etc .  I really don't think the frenchman is losing sales to anybody!

[Smurf]

Oh I see thanks Chris

[Kev Martin]

i did a test patch of algoclear pro on this & nothing happened at all ?

I am not surprised!  I would have thought looking at it Miracle Heavy Duty Acidic Cleaner would do more good?  That said I would do a test area first as always

[Smurf]

Myself I would try a test patch using an sh mix or gel on it first to see if it cleans off before doing down the acid wash route
I would have thought If it's just black organic growth then it should not really need an acid wash.

Either way best you don't let the two mix on the wall as combined can give off a toxic gas.


 

[Kev Martin]

Myself I would try a test patch using an sh mix or gel on it first to see if it cleans off before doing down the acid wash route
I would have thought If it's just black organic growth then it should not really need an acid wash.

Either way best you don't let the two mix on the wall as combined can give off a toxic gas.

There is a stark difference between an "acid wash" as you put it and a Heavy Duty Cleaner incorporating a buffered Acid designed for that type of staining.  It will also take less than 2 minutes to do a test area

[Smurf]

It's what I call a heavy duty acid cleaner in my book kev that is why it works the way it does.
So in effect it's an acid wash so don't beat about the bush and just say what it is 

[Kev Martin]

It's what I call a heavy duty acid cleaner in my book kev that is why it works the way it does.
So in effect it's an acid wash so don't beat about the bush and just say what it is 

Well sadly your wrong!  Buffered acidic based cleaners work very differently from neat acids they are used  extensively for soot, carbon and rust deposit cleaning.  In a similar manner  the same way our buffered cleaners work differently to your Hypo or my water based stripper works differently to Nitromors or similar.  The list is endless and we have completed exhaustive tests and compared them all against each other and seen what chemicals can do and not do when applied correctly and used appropriately we are more than confident of what works where.