steve24earl

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george
« on: September 04, 2008, 12:49:31 pm »
could anyone tell me how to get george please ?

seandyer2003

Re: george
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2008, 12:58:47 pm »
george is old news now:) you wanna check the thread "window cleaner pro is live now" its a much better programme, you get 45 days free then have to register...


steve24earl

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Re: george
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2008, 04:52:43 pm »
thanx guys

Moderator David@stives

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Re: george
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2008, 05:57:50 pm »
George is still a good program, at £50 it should easily remain the market leader.

Both programs have there plusses and minuses, They are both free to demo.

At the moment George seems more user friendly but doesnt have the cash/ Cheque option which is disappointing.

Dale Smith

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Re: george
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2008, 06:00:24 pm »
IMO George is superb, and for the price its top class  ;D
Swindon, Wiltshire.

jaykie

Re: george
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2008, 06:04:41 pm »
Its more user friendly as youve only been able to play with wcp for less then 24 hours, wait till your running with it properly then come back and compare the 2, ive been using george for 4 months and wcp for 6 days and wcp is a lot better imho.

Chris

seandyer2003

Re: george
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2008, 06:07:05 pm »
Its more user friendly as youve only been able to play with wcp for less then 24 hours, wait till your running with it properly then come back and compare the 2, ive been using george for 4 months and wcp for 6 days and wcp is a lot better imho.

Chris

I think wcp is more user friendly, george is simpler but thats because it doesnt have the same options, yet george is better priced!!

Moderator David@stives

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Re: george
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2008, 06:22:48 pm »
The user interface of george is excellent , you can see on one screen what you earned anytime, how much you are owed , how far you are behind, with a couple of clicks you can print a work sheet without drag and drop.

wcp looks interesting but you have to explore more.

Paul Coleman

Re: george
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2008, 06:23:37 pm »
Its more user friendly as youve only been able to play with wcp for less then 24 hours, wait till your running with it properly then come back and compare the 2, ive been using george for 4 months and wcp for 6 days and wcp is a lot better imho.

Chris

I think wcp is more user friendly, george is simpler but thats because it doesnt have the same options, yet george is better priced!!

What does WCP cost then?

wightsurf

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Re: george
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2008, 06:26:10 pm »
£129.00  :o

jaykie

Re: george
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2008, 06:34:21 pm »
At the top of WCP theres a option for debts just mark them as they pay, also a option for accounts you can select day, week, month,

jaykie

Re: george
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2008, 06:37:06 pm »
George is a good little bit of kit and was good while i wanted to be a window cleaner but now i want to run a business i believe wcp will benefit me much better, and £129 isnt a lot considering most on here earn more then that a day.

Chris

Moderator David@stives

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Re: george
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2008, 06:38:58 pm »
full price is £200

Moderator David@stives

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Re: george
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2008, 06:41:21 pm »
RWC

I said on one screen  (the Home screen) you can see all that information.

What you earned/ takings / work not done/tis week/month/year/last year, you simply can fault it for that

jaykie

Re: george
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2008, 06:41:54 pm »
You still earn that in a day dont you dave, if not more.

Chris

jaykie

Re: george
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2008, 06:42:51 pm »
Have you set george up in rounds or all main round

Chris

Moderator David@stives

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Re: george
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2008, 06:45:53 pm »
My George is split into 12 rounds at the moment, but will have to split a couple up as they are getting to big, all my commercial is on one round and is getting a nightmare to navigate so that needs splitting as well

Captain Scarlet

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Re: george
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2008, 06:46:38 pm »
Ive bought Window Cleaner Pro, but am waiting for Ian to include the feature of printing all invoices for the day in one hit and copies for both me and customer
Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

jaykie

Re: george
« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2008, 06:50:08 pm »
Im sure there will be a few updates as its only been available to a few people over the last couple of months so now you guys have seen it im sure many can help to improve it, anything suggested to him will be taken on board and it can only getter better from here, as far as i know george is at its full potential so what you have is the final product, unlike wcp.

Chris

Moderator David@stives

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Re: george
« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2008, 06:53:11 pm »
I am just witing for the input facility so i can import george into wcp , then i will run both programs simultaneously then i will evaluate which i think is best, to me George only has one flaw and that is its non existant Cheque/ cash facility unless it is near on perfect

Captain Scarlet

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Re: george
« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2008, 07:00:46 pm »
Dave...what do you do for invoices? how do you go about that?
Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

jaykie

Re: george
« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2008, 07:10:34 pm »
My invoices on wcp print with my logo on, and ive had my george imported to wcp by ian

Chris

Captain Scarlet

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Re: george
« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2008, 07:14:53 pm »
i know it can do that jaykie, but it doesnt currently allow the printing of the entire invoices for a single days work, with a copy for both customer and business. Ian is going to add this feature. What pda do you use?
Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

Moderator David@stives

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Re: george
« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2008, 07:25:24 pm »
I print all my invoices through george, either to printer , or to pdf then email for others

dave0123

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Re: george
« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2008, 08:10:53 pm »
I use george at the moment and am trying window cleaner pro,

I agree with RWC once you haveused window cleaner pro for a while it will become so easy to use. George is quite hard to use for someone new, if you go wrong or make a wrong expense then this becomes even more difficult to sort out for a new user.


I think Window Cleaner Pro will become the main programe used in the end unless George have something in the pipeline which was sposed to be years ago. Altho you pay more for window cleaner pro this has more features and more to come.  It does more stuff works harder for your business so of course its going to cost more money.

So all in all if you want a better management software for your business i dont really think £200 is expensive at all, its also a mini accoutanting package too.


Dave.

jaykie

Re: george
« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2008, 08:13:54 pm »
Couldnt agree more with dave0123 once youve got everything on it its preety easy to work out how to do things and if not ian is about to help.

Chris

Moderator David@stives

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Re: george
« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2008, 08:16:17 pm »
I have just been trying to print a worksheet for the last 30 mins, cannot for the life of me work it out , and i aint dumb.

How many on this thread have been given a free version for trialling pro ?

Moderator David@stives

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Re: george
« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2008, 08:22:05 pm »
Can some one tell me how to print a work sheet in pro of all due jobs, i just scheduled a few cleans for tommorrow but they dont show up on the schedule screen, and it wont even compile one to print.

As I said in George you just say print a worksheet to certain date and it prints it easy peasy what can be simpler,

someone please prove me wrong

Moderator David@stives

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Re: george
« Reply #29 on: September 04, 2008, 08:23:52 pm »
It keeps telling me the documant has no pages , thats why it cant print.


dave0123

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Re: george
« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2008, 08:24:32 pm »
Im going to be using mine once i get my george data on there along with george for a few weeks see how i go, i can allready see i am going to buying it though  :D.


to print a worksheet in schedule, tick the round or jobs on the round far right then move down below and click add to work sheet. once you done that click print work sheet.
Dave.

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Re: george
« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2008, 08:35:31 pm »
Yes but why arent the jobs a scheduled for today and tommorrow not showing on the schedule list,

Is there a glitch in the system, when i navigated away from the schedule clean and back again the one of the jobs re-appeared.

I think i need some sleep before i try any further

ianhannaford

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Re: george
« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2008, 08:54:41 pm »
It keeps telling me the documant has no pages , thats why it cant print.



Dave,

The reason you get that the document has no pages is that there is not data to print. When you have your work, you need to assign it to a worksheet. Thats is what the split screen is. The top half is your schedule of work, the bottom half is are the worksheets you have created.

You simply select the work you want to include from the schedule using the check boxes at the right hand side, then click the 'Add to worksheet' button. This will remove jobs from the schedule and add them to the currently selected worksheet.

You can then print this work sheet off or send it to a PDA.

Once you have finished the end of the day you use the end of day button to enter all the cleans and payment for that day. If you are using the PDA then you dont even have to do this!

Let me know if you want a further explainatin

Ian

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Re: george
« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2008, 09:31:12 pm »
I worked that out but one job wont show in the schedule screen when it is clearly due on the rounds page, it is a ficticious job with history,

ianhannaford

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Re: george
« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2008, 09:32:44 pm »
I worked that out but one job wont show in the schedule screen when it is clearly due on the rounds page, it is a ficticious job with history,

Dave,

Can you send me a back up of the database. Go to Tools->Backup Utility and run the backup.

Then send me the file and I'll take a look

Thanks

Ian