alanwilson

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45ft pole
« on: March 05, 2008, 09:11:07 pm »
Hi Guys and Gals

Its time to upgrade the pole selection and we need another 45ft pole, I was thinking of facelift but whats your recommendations - and prices please too.

thanks
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alanwilson

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Re: 45ft pole
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2008, 09:36:08 pm »
come on people!!

I've seen a 45ft aluminium pole on ebay - is it tucker?

please help - I need some info and guidance
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Moderator David@stives

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Re: 45ft pole
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2008, 10:34:41 pm »
Alan

I seen the 44ft facelift today.

Ithink the actual pole length is 41 ft

Nice to use and hold as the sections are all 6 ft so can be adjusted whilst upright.

Felt sturdy light and stiff.

I probably would have bought it today but it was about 6 ft short for a job i needed to do, the next size pole was 8 ft sections and wasnt suitable due to not being able to adjust easily whilst upright, as the job is on a busy road.

Price is about £874 + vat not bad for a good quality pole.

Dave

Wayne Thomas

Re: 45ft pole
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2008, 12:34:15 am »
Alan

I seen the 44ft facelift today.

Ithink the actual pole length is 41 ft

Nice to use and hold as the sections are all 6 ft so can be adjusted whilst upright.

Felt sturdy light and stiff.

I probably would have bought it today but it was about 6 ft short for a job i needed to do, the next size pole was 8 ft sections and wasnt suitable due to not being able to adjust easily whilst upright, as the job is on a busy road.

Price is about £874 + vat not bad for a good quality pole.

Dave
 

Dave,

Can't you buy the first three sections in a 8ft lengths and use 6 ft lengths lower down the pole to reach the desired height. The top sections of a pole will be lighter so the weight will still be kept to a minmum. Have a word with Facelift and see if they will allow you to do this.
I us a Facelift 44 and am very happy with mine. Very good pole, lightweight for a telescopic and a good grip (if raining), slim handle.

alanwilson

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Re: 45ft pole
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2008, 01:24:46 am »
ok I've got to go to bed here but I've been all over the net looking for poles - anyone got the Ionics Ergolite 2 carbon? What do you think of it?

£820 all in.
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Wayne Thomas

Re: 45ft pole
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2008, 01:35:18 am »
ok I've got to go to bed here but I've been all over the net looking for poles - anyone got the Ionics Ergolite 2 carbon? What do you think of it?

£820 all in.

I've never tried the ergolite 2. I have an Ionics carbon ergolite (1) (45ft) and rigidity wise it's stiffer than a Facelift pole (noticeably stiffer). The 3 downsides to this pole are: 1. the pole diameter is wider than a Facelift. 2. The pole is slippery to hold if it's wet (working in the rain), & 3. The clamp lever's can easily catch on guttering (if cleaning windows above guttering) and obstacles (bushes, etc). This can be overcome by turning the pole 90 degrees left, so the clamp lever faces center of the pole if looking up the pole, rather than on the right hand side. Overall verdict: a good, very rigid telesciopic pole which gives Facelift a good run for it's money.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: 45ft pole
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2008, 07:50:16 am »
If you are looking for a telescopic pole that is a true 45ft and is relatively easy to use, a good weight, excellent stiffness, short easy to reach section for adjustment and a very competitive price then you need the 45ft Carbon Fibre X-Tel.

These really are the only usable 45ft telescopic poles on the market. An average person like me (5' 8") can actually reach all of the clamps for on the go adjustment. It is an actual 45ft meaning that it can reach about 4 ft higher than the offerings from Facelift and Ionics. It is almost exactly the same weight per extended foot as the Facelift and a lot lighter than the Ergolite. In our rigidity testing it was stiffer than the Facelift pole, but just slightly less stiff than the Ergolite. The only downside is that it has a fatter diameter than the Ergolite and Facelift pole, but for me this is more than made up by the extra reach and the fact that I can reach the clamps.

You can check out the comparative specifications here:

http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_Pole_Weights_and_Lengths.html

There is always the option as well of a lightweight modular pole, which we find is becoming the option of choice with the majority of our customers working at these heights. Some people prefer a telescopic pole though.

Moderator David@stives

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Re: 45ft pole
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2008, 08:51:20 am »
Alex

How do you rate the 60' excell for usability ?

Dave

Alex Gardiner

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Re: 45ft pole
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2008, 03:48:09 pm »
The base sections are a lot shorter than either the Facelift or the Ergolite, about 6' 6" from the ground as opposed to about 8ft for the Facelift and the Ergolite.

However I would still find it completely unusable as I am not 6' 2", which I reckon is the starting height for using one of these poles.  I can extend the top 3 section out sideways, but then you have to extend the rest vertically and this is where most people will have a problem (although less of a problem than it's rivals) as realistically you cannot reach the clamps to extend it further.

One advantage it has is that it is an actual length of 60ft, making it one of the longest telescopics available (barring the 83ft Tucker!).

Darren O

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Re: 45ft pole
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2008, 06:08:47 pm »
I wouldnt buy a 44ft facelift if you are going to use it a lot at that height its to heavy.I use mine at that height about once every 3 months and thats enough.The pole is great up to 34ft higher than that its a bit of a struggle.

Jon-scwindows

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Re: 45ft pole
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2008, 06:13:15 pm »
i would not recommend the 45ft aluminium poles as seen on ebay, i have used one of these. They are well made, strong and durable, though heavy, and they bend/flex too much. The clamps are also a pain.

Wayne Thomas

Re: 45ft pole
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2008, 06:22:10 pm »
I wouldnt buy a 44ft facelift if you are going to use it a lot at that height its to heavy.I use mine at that height about once every 3 months and thats enough.The pole is great up to 34ft higher than that its a bit of a struggle.

I use mine every week. I'd rather use the 44ft facelift than fly a Gardiners modular kite (pole) whilst working in gusty locations

alanwilson

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Re: 45ft pole
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2008, 07:52:43 pm »
thanks very much guys

Alex I appreciate your help and thoughts on section lengths, I'm really undecided, the big selling point of the facelift for me was the fact I can remove sections easily. 

hmm, I'll have to dwell on this a little while.

Thanks again everyone
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Re: 45ft pole
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2008, 07:57:52 pm »
Alan,

Have a look at our website we make poles with a difference.

Regards, Stuart

www.skypolewfp.com

alanwilson

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Re: 45ft pole
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2008, 08:05:06 pm »
Hi stuart

thanks mate but from what I've seen I'm not impressed.

7ft long sections, more expensive than Ionics/Facelift (not that the price bothers me) but I can't see what sells your poles?

Not being rude just saying I can't see where they are better than the others
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Moderator David@stives

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Re: 45ft pole
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2008, 08:10:42 pm »
Tried out the 60 ft excel pole today and i would say it can be handled quite easily by anyone who is about 6 ft, once the first 4 sections are out it gets even easier.

It is like chalk and cheese compared to an eight ft section pole.

*foxman

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Re: 45ft pole
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2008, 08:24:24 pm »
You like it then Dave?

macmac

Re: 45ft pole
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2008, 08:24:42 pm »
If you go for the facelift just remember that you can use this pole at any length you like (removable sections, tool free & instant) so, one pole does it all realy. Plus, if you do break any section accidentley then you only have to buy that very section alone & just replace it. Trust me, removable sections on a telescopic pole is such a massive benefit which has been over-looked by so many manufacturers it's unreal. Top money for a top pole, top investment. ;)

Tony

Moderator David@stives

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Re: 45ft pole
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2008, 08:42:11 pm »
Foxman

I cant believe how cheap it is !!!!!!!!!

Love it , might even keep it lol, got to try it on a building tommorrow.

I had it up 30' past my guttering so about 50' then bottled it as it was a bit windy.

Tony , the facelift had 8 ft sections so wasnt very user friendly, i have to agree if i only needed 40 ft which is 6 ft sections i would of bought one.

I still might yet, just trying to work out if i could adapt it so the bottom 3 sections are 6 ft and the rest 8 ft

macmac

Re: 45ft pole
« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2008, 08:51:17 pm »
Foxman

I cant believe how cheap it is !!!!!!!!!

Love it , might even keep it lol, got to try it on a building tommorrow.

I had it up 30' past my guttering so about 50' then bottled it as it was a bit windy.

Tony , the facelift had 8 ft sections so wasnt very user friendly, i have to agree if i only needed 40 ft which is 6 ft sections i would of bought one.

I still might yet, just trying to work out if i could adapt it so the bottom 3 sections are 6 ft and the rest 8 ft

To be honest dave, i personaly would go modular above a 44ft facelift, this is the limit for me with the carbon facelift.

Tony