[Kev R]

I have a carpeted 3/4 star hotel with corridors of high internal glass. I turn the flow down to about 250ml/min and just wfp it mopping up watyer on the internal cills. the central heating sorts the rest out. You may have to explain about the soap issue and that it may take a couple of cleans to come right.
its faster and I knocked a bit of money off. They like £££ off.  

Your a braver man than I Jeff Brimble 

[Pat Purcell]

Kev , the closest thing to a 0 degree squeege I have is an ettore contour pro, I dont get on with it for anything but the lowest pole work ,but with a cranked extension and a 0 degree it would have the same effect as a ledger (I think)

[Kev R]

Kev , the closest thing to a 0 degree squeege I have is an ettore contour pro, I dont get on with it for anything but the lowest pole work ,but with a cranked extension and a 0 degree it would have the same effect as a ledger (I think)

Pat,
 I love using a Slimline Wagtail for most of my pole work and I find it excellent to use but throw in a ledge and its a different ball game.

Thanks for you help mate.

[trevor perry]

i think a big problem is the cills, they soon become very dusty which is easily wiped if using a ladder the trouble comes when trying to use a squeege as the water ends up on cills and turns to mud (can look a real mess from a viranda or staircase) the same is true if using a microfibre on a pole as it will pick up the dirt on the cill and spread it onto window making them streaky.
  i have a few jobs coming up where this is now a issue and was thinking about buying the ionics pro 10 but i havnt seen it demonstrated yet, the salesman told me they often adjust the head and vacume the cills first to avoid the above problem , this is soon going to become a big issue on some large commercial jobs with the current health and safety and unless a simple solution can be found we may end up using scaffolding which is vert costly and in my opinion more dangerous erecting and dismantling than it would be to use ladders.

[Captain Scarlet]

the same is true if using a microfibre on a pole as it will pick up the dirt on the cill and spread it onto window making them streaky.

I wouldnt touch the sills with the swivel microfibre, Luke

[Kev R]

i think a big problem is the cills, they soon become very dusty which is easily wiped if using a ladder the trouble comes when trying to use a squeege as the water ends up on cills and turns to mud (can look a real mess from a viranda or staircase) the same is true if using a microfibre on a pole as it will pick up the dirt on the cill and spread it onto window making them streaky.
  i have a few jobs coming up where this is now a issue and was thinking about buying the ionics pro 10 but i havnt seen it demonstrated yet, the salesman told me they often adjust the head and vacume the cills first to avoid the above problem , this is soon going to become a big issue on some large commercial jobs with the current health and safety and unless a simple solution can be found we may end up using scaffolding which is vert costly and in my opinion more dangerous erecting and dismantling than it would be to use ladders.

Eventually I guess something like the Ionics pro 10 will be the norm for everyone as wfp is becoming, but at the moment its becoming difficult to clean internal windows at height as the customer simply does not want ladders used.

[Captain Scarlet]

Kev, tell me how you get on doing the job, Luke

[trevor perry]

I have a carpeted 3/4 star hotel with corridors of high internal glass. I turn the flow down to about 250ml/min and just wfp it mopping up watyer on the internal cills. the central heating sorts the rest out. You may have to explain about the soap issue and that it may take a couple of cleans to come right.
its faster and I knocked a bit of money off. They like £££ off.  

this may work but it is certainly an health and safety no no as some of these deep cills may have electric switches or wiring running along them that are certainly not water resistent enough to have water running all over them and that cant be seen from the floor if this method was used it would only be a matter of time before someone started a big fire.

[trevor perry]

the same is true if using a microfibre on a pole as it will pick up the dirt on the cill and spread it onto window making them streaky.

I wouldnt touch the sills with the swivel microfibre, Luke

if you dont touch the cills they soon become very dirty and look a mess from verandas etc, also on the end of a 40ft pole it is difficult not to touch them i know i have tried

[Captain Scarlet]

clean them with the applicator then, Luke

[trevor perry]

hi luke
     i am not trying to pick fault with you sugestions and i am sure a mixture of all the ways  you have mentioned would work ie sqeege on pole , applicator on pole , microfibre swivel but it is very time consuming lowering pole attaching next tool then re extending etc and in all fairness the results are not perfect, i honestly dont believe the results will be perfect with the pro 10 but i may be proved wrong, i just sometimes think this health and safety has gone to far

[Jeff Brimble]

I have a carpeted 3/4 star hotel with corridors of high internal glass. I turn the flow down to about 250ml/min and just wfp it mopping up watyer on the internal cills. the central heating sorts the rest out. You may have to explain about the soap issue and that it may take a couple of cleans to come right.
its faster and I knocked a bit of money off. They like £££ off.  

this may work but it is certainly an health and safety no no as some of these deep cills may have electric switches or wiring running along them that are certainly not water resistent enough to have water running all over them and that cant be seen from the floor if this method was used it would only be a matter of time before someone started a big fire.

I agree Trevor but we all do risk assesments first- no electric anywhere near so no H&S issues on this job.

[Captain Scarlet]

No I like your input mate   But if you dont blade just applicate then its a little quicker, Luke

[Captain Scarlet]

If your going to do what Jeff does ( 250ml/min ) then you will need 1mm-1.5mm jets to have good pressure at that rate of flow, Luke

[Jon-scwindows]

How about wfp, but with 4 very fine mist sprays jets in the head, so little water is used even on high pressure as the water cannot come out much faster...

you dont have to have the pump on all the time to clean, you can spray a mist over starting from the top and turn it off, clean the whole window then rinse down. Is there any chance the carpet can be pulled up easily and rolled back a bit? then put several sheets down?