Kev R

High Internal Window Cleaning
« on: January 31, 2008, 05:57:58 pm »
I have a couple of commercial sites that have "banned me" from using ladders. The have areas of high internal glass that is really difficult if not impossible to pole & Squeegee. Wfp is not an option as the area is carpeted.

Anybody have any good ideas how to do these areas in another way?

elite mike

Re: High Internal Window Cleaning
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2008, 06:04:52 pm »
hi
i went to a demo of ionics cleaning high level inside glass,
i was wfp with a vacuum it worked very well, bit pricey though.
hope this helps
mike

Pat Purcell

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Re: High Internal Window Cleaning
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2008, 06:07:08 pm »
What is making it difficult to use a trad pole and squeegee?
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Captain Scarlet

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Re: High Internal Window Cleaning
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2008, 06:07:29 pm »
Kev, I have the perfect solution for this that doesnt require you spending lots of money. The trouble with high trad work on poles is the streaks and water marks.....agree? Well the solution is to trad pole it then after blading use a vileda ( or similar ) microfibre swivel to dry the glass easily!!!



Its the perfect and quick way of drying off the window, and if some marks have dried on then it will also rub them off nicely too!!

So there are two ways to go about doing this:

1 trad pole

2. wfp with a converter ( from ionics ) to make it able to take squeeges and applicators

When you buy the microfibe swivel make sure it will either fit a trad pole or wfp threads, happy cleaning, Luke

Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

Kev R

Re: High Internal Window Cleaning
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2008, 06:10:15 pm »
What is making it difficult to use a trad pole and squeegee?

30-40 ft and a wide deep sill on a narrow staircase.

Kev R

Re: High Internal Window Cleaning
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2008, 06:11:10 pm »
Kev, I have the perfect solution for this that doesnt require you spending lots of money. The trouble with high trad work on poles is the streaks and water marks.....agree? Well the solution is to trad pole it then after blading use a vileda ( or similar ) microfibre swivel to dry the glass easily!!!



Its the perfect and quick way of drying off the window, and if some marks have dried on then it will also rub them off nicely too!!

So there are two ways to go about doing this:

1 trad pole

2. wfp with a converter ( from ionics ) to make it able to take squeeges and applicators

When you buy the microfibe swivel make sure it will either fit a trad pole or wfp threads, happy cleaning, Luke



Can you fit that to an Unger pole Luke?

Captain Scarlet

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Re: High Internal Window Cleaning
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2008, 06:14:37 pm »
The one I use comes from Home & Bargain and fits an Unger/trad thread pole. The Vileda ones have a Vikan style thread. Its very important thats its a microfibre one though and that if you use an angle adapter that its straight when using the swivel, Luke
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Pat Purcell

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Re: High Internal Window Cleaning
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2008, 06:16:23 pm »
What is making it difficult to use a trad pole and squeegee?

30-40 ft and a wide deep sill on a narrow staircase.
Yep, that would do it, ;D
For the deep sills you could use a ledger, ( kind of like a gooseneck for trad poling)
Theres a 5 piece unger trad pole that goes to 30 ft, if you get a 3 section 24 ft pole abd use the largest 2 sections of the unger you can get to 34ft and if you get another 2 larger sections and remove the end cap and shove the 2nd section into the bottom almost all the way it will get you to 40ft, Still would not solve the problem of the stairs, but if you were able to ladder them then maybe that would work
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Kev R

Re: High Internal Window Cleaning
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2008, 06:19:34 pm »
The one I use comes from Home & Bargain and fits an Unger/trad thread pole. The Vileda ones have a Vikan style thread. Its very important thats its a microfibre one though and that if you use an angle adapter that its straight when using the swivel, Luke

Thanks Luke,

Have you tried a damp T bar mop and then straight to a microfiber without using a squeegee?

Kev R

Re: High Internal Window Cleaning
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2008, 06:21:46 pm »
What is making it difficult to use a trad pole and squeegee?

30-40 ft and a wide deep sill on a narrow staircase.
Yep, that would do it, ;D
For the deep sills you could use a ledger, ( kind of like a gooseneck for trad poling)
Theres a 5 piece unger trad pole that goes to 30 ft, if you get a 3 section 24 ft pole abd use the largest 2 sections of the unger you can get to 34ft and if you get another 2 larger sections and remove the end cap and shove the 2nd section into the bottom almost all the way it will get you to 40ft, Still would not solve the problem of the stairs, but if you were able to ladder them then maybe that would work

I have a good unger pole and a short ledger but its difficult to get the correct angel with it.  I was considering getting a deeper brass ledger or a 0 degree squeegee but not sure which would be best?

Captain Scarlet

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Re: High Internal Window Cleaning
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2008, 06:23:14 pm »
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Have you tried a damp T bar mop and then straight to a microfiber without using a squeegee?

Yes, it works but only if you pull the microfibre in one direction ( no up and down movements ) otherwise they tend to leave a fine dust streaked on the window. So do a pulling down motion but dont push back up! If you do it this way then buy quite a few sleeves for the swivel. If you do decide to blade you can afford to be sloppy with your blading because you can simply dry the streaks off! Luke
Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

Kev R

Re: High Internal Window Cleaning
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2008, 06:26:24 pm »
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Have you tried a damp T bar mop and then straight to a microfiber without using a squeegee?

Yes, it works but only if you pull the microfibre in one direction ( no up and down movements ) otherwise they tend to leave a fine dust streaked on the window. So do a pulling down motion but dont push back up! If you do it this way then buy quite a few sleeves for the swivel. If you do decide to blade you can afford to be sloppy with your blading because you can simply dry the streaks off! Luke

So when including blading can you pull / push the microfibre in all directions or just down again?

Captain Scarlet

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Re: High Internal Window Cleaning
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2008, 06:29:17 pm »
with/without blading just pull the microfibre down....it really is a brilliant and simple solution, it has saved me alot of time and money. And because of the nature of the swivel you can get it over deep sills/corners etc etc, Luke
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Kev R

Re: High Internal Window Cleaning
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2008, 06:35:44 pm »
Thank you so much Luke I will give it a try. Have you got a link for where I can get one on the spare mops please?


Pat Purcell

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Re: High Internal Window Cleaning
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2008, 06:35:44 pm »
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30-40 ft and a wide deep sill on a narrow staircase.
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Yep, that would do it, ;D
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I have a good unger pole and a short ledger but its difficult to get the correct angel with it.  I was considering getting a deeper brass ledger or a 0 degree squeegee but not sure which would be best?
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I have one of the large ledgers and you are right its hard to find that correct angle with it and that would be doubly hard with a stairs in the way, The second from largest ledger will handle a 4-5in ledge easily if you have the correct angle, But if you have used a ledger then Im sure you know what the job would require, There is a swivel ledger available but its not as deep, it might do a 3in ledge but not much more especially if you are using it at an angle
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Kev R

Re: High Internal Window Cleaning
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2008, 06:39:56 pm »
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30-40 ft and a wide deep sill on a narrow staircase.
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Yep, that would do it, ;D
For the deep sills you could use a ledger, (
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I have a good unger pole and a short ledger but its difficult to get the correct angel with it.  I was considering getting a deeper brass ledger or a 0 degree squeegee but not sure which would be best?
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I have one of the large ledgers and you are right its hard to find that correct angle with it and that would be doubly hard with a stairs in the way, The second from largest ledger will handle a 4-5in ledge easily if you have the correct angle, But if you have used a ledger then Im sure you know what the job would require, There is a swivel ledger available but its not as deep, it might do a 3in ledge but not much more especially if you are using it at an angle

Pat have you tried a 0 degree on a cranked extension?

Jeff Brimble

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Re: High Internal Window Cleaning
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2008, 06:41:06 pm »
I have a carpeted 3/4 star hotel with corridors of high internal glass. I turn the flow down to about 250ml/min and just wfp it mopping up watyer on the internal cills. the central heating sorts the rest out. You may have to explain about the soap issue and that it may take a couple of cleans to come right.
its faster and I knocked a bit of money off. They like £££ off.  :D

Captain Scarlet

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Re: High Internal Window Cleaning
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2008, 06:42:02 pm »
Here at Wilkinson plus, they have both swivel and spare mops. I have never used the Vileda ones so they may be terrible. Instead give a few shops a vistit ( Woolworths/Wilkos/Home & Bargain etc )

http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/bin/venda?ex=co_wizr-locayta&template=wz_locayta&pageno=1&perpage=10&collate=cat%3Apdxttype&fieldrtype=type&termtextrtype=invt&typertype=exact&typekeywordsearch=keyword&termtextkeywordsearch=microfibre+swivel&searchsubmit.x=0&searchsubmit.y=0
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Captain Scarlet

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Re: High Internal Window Cleaning
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2008, 06:43:17 pm »
yes or you could try the flow really low with towels on the floor, Luke
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Kev R

Re: High Internal Window Cleaning
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2008, 06:45:24 pm »