[jeff1]

this kit DOES NOT produce hydrogen it produces oxyhdrogen(HHO) a seperate process is required to seperate oxygen and hydrogen from HHO .This is IMO having viewed the link a jam jar with ssteel electrodes run from battery using baking soda to speed up reaction sited in engine compartment.How is gas introduced into engine combustion cycle? i dont know enough about how that bit of the process works to want to buy this kit and although i hope it does work and would be first to buy one if it did i have to say that i suspect it probably dont

Yes it is oxyhdrogen HHO (2 Hydrogen + 1 Oxygen). HHO, also called Brown's Gas or Hydroxy, burns beautifully and provides TONS of energy - while the end product is just WATER! Mobile Magazine says HHO provides the atomic power of Hydrogen, while maintaining the chemical stability of water.

I've emailed Brendon at petrolprice.com to get his view on the book, they say they try to reply  within 24hrs so I'll wait for his reply before I commit to buying the book.
Brown's water  : I hope he dosn't see it or he'll slap tons of Tax on water next

[jeff1]

Have a read of this link and then tell me Brown's gas doesn't work?
if you want to skip some reading scroll straight down to Brown's Gas

http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/watercar/h20car2.htm

[Tim Rose]

Here you go, guys.

They're doing this kind of thing regularly on the continent, and I have personally seen in the flesh a lawnmower runningon part petrol part water (vapour).

I was gobsmacked when I saw it.

http://jlnlabs.online.fr/bingofuel/pmcjlnen.htm

[Alex Gardiner]

Is it April the 1st or are we all just in Area 51 (or was that 52??)

By the way when are they actually going to land a man on the moon for real??

[jeff1]

Is it April the 1st or are we all just in Area 51 (or was that 52??)

By the way when are they actually going to land a man on the moon for real??

Alex I didn't belive in wfp once upon a time
I agree with the man on the moon bit

[Tim Rose]

God, there really are some fuddy duddy old men out ther in internet-land, aren't there?

I have stood in a garage, for 15 minutes, while a petrol engine was running, and I didn't choke to death.    Why?  Because it was running partly on water.

Search Swedish/Norweigian websites for this stuff if you are serious about saving fuel. Look into what they did in the second world war and before, with fuelling vehicles - really cool stuff, and when Armageddon comes you'll be better placed.

Or rather your children and grandchildren will stand a chance.    We have blown it, but why stuff the future generations?

[Alex Gardiner]

God, there really are some fuddy duddy old men out ther in internet-land, aren't there?

I have stood in a garage, for 15 minutes, while a petrol engine was running, and I didn't choke to death.    Why?  Because it was running partly on water.

Search Swedish/Norweigian websites for this stuff if you are serious about saving fuel. Look into what they did in the second world war and before, with fuelling vehicles - really cool stuff, and when Armageddon comes you'll be better placed.

Or rather your children and grandchildren will stand a chance.    We have blown it, but why stuff the future generations?

I thought of all people you would appreciate the humor Rosy!

Of course I believe in engines that run on water, they have been around for years and if governments didn't make so much money taxing fuel and Oil companies making mega profits, we would have been using them years ago.

I personally will be running all my vehicles this way within the year.

[Tim Rose]

Alex, I didn't catch up with any humor as I've been too busy today.Glad you're open to the ideas.  I am, but need someone else to point me in the right direction.     I expect it'll cost loads anyway.     Not that attractive.      We're not up agaisnt the wall by any means.

[jikwan]

im about to hook up a 7 plate HHO cell to my car
just waiting for a one way valve to arrive

phillipino watercar
                                             
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UVhXrvCCILw

car runs on water

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iZmmXCUQoF8

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl4b7mNBwzM&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9XrLOudwRw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyN6x9WTy5c

[jeff1]

im about to hook up a 7 plate HHO cell to my car
just waiting for a one way valve to arrive

phillipino watercar
                                             
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UVhXrvCCILw

car runs on water

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iZmmXCUQoF8

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl4b7mNBwzM&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9XrLOudwRw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyN6x9WTy5c

Jikwan Did you build the cell system yourself or did you get a pre-built one, were did you get the info on building the system? I have all the instructions for a different type of fuel cell but not the Brown's gas one.
Can you keep us upto date on how you get on with fitting it and running it.

[jikwan]

hi jeff
built it myself   a pretty rough design at first  using cheap materials

stainless 304 .7mm platesx7
2end plates pos
central is neg
4 plates neutral

once ive put a checkvalve on  ill run a 6mm hose into the carburettor venturi
for vacuum   

bench test without vacuum produces tons of hho   vacuum can give 10x more
vapour

ill post he results

[jikwan]

jeff
incidentally   awesome potential

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMFvzohuVew

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLUeGX3hNpU

[jeff1]

hi jeff
built it myself   a pretty rough design at first  using cheap materials

stainless 304 .7mm platesx7
2end plates pos
central is neg
4 plates neutral

once ive put a checkvalve on  ill run a 6mm hose into the carburettor venturi
for vacuum   

bench test without vacuum produces tons of hho   vacuum can give 10x more
vapour

ill post he results

Thats brilliant news, did you use a DI vessel?  there made for it. if you can get some pictures that would be cool, I'm going to build my own have a look at this link.
 http://waterpoweredcar.com/hydrobooster2.html
Have a look at the smart mixture display link.
Would love to know your results after the tests, what are you going to use as a controler and don't forget to wire it to the ignition switch, you don't want it running on after engine switch off 

jeff
incidentally awesome potential

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMFvzohuVew

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLUeGX3hNpU

WoW great links, I see some great potential for the hot water guys, hot water on demand and all in a plastic Tank.
Don't forget to keep me informed I'm really interested in this.

[jikwan]

if you look at this again

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iZmmXCUQoF8

its as simple as that

all these additional things arent necessary
controllers
pulse width regulators
bubblers
vac guages etc

should be able to diy cell to run car (50%more mpg)
30-50quid

the more hho the engine uses the more necessary to
adjust the timing (retard)
also steel will rust much more eg exhaust  silencer  valves etc

im using plates but ss wire mesh is the optimum but very difficult to get

[jeff1]

if you look at this again

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iZmmXCUQoF8

its as simple as that

all these additional things arent necessary
controllers
pulse width regulators
bubblers
vac guages etc

should be able to diy cell to run car (50%more mpg)
30-50quid

the more hho the engine uses the more necessary to
adjust the timing (retard)
also steel will rust much more eg exhaust  silencer  valves etc

im using plates but ss wire mesh is the optimum but very difficult to get

That video was good for pointers, I found another video when that one finished, it was a guy in the States offering the instruction to all the non Believers on how to build one, so I emailed him for the instructions Lol
Were did you get your ss from, the Boss said I had to leave the drum of the washing machine aloan
the drum might be good for the cold fusion one though