jinky230

are omnipole trolleys good
« on: May 27, 2006, 06:20:30 am »
guys  was wondering if anyone uses the omnipole 50l and 125l  trolley from omnipole, they look the business but are they ok for domestic

how is the weight  factor,build quality etc, any advice would be appreciated

jinky

Paul Coleman

Re: are omnipole trolleys good
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2006, 07:55:14 am »
guys  was wondering if anyone uses the omnipole 50l and 125l  trolley from omnipole, they look the business but are they ok for domestic

how is the weight  factor,build quality etc, any advice would be appreciated

jinky

I use the 50 litre "classic" trolley (with DI) and it seems fine to me.  Unfortunately, there is no hosereel attached to it - something that they have remedied in the trolley's most recent incarnation (perhaps I'll upgrade sometime).
Not sure about the 125 litre trolley though as I've never used it.  It may be that it is better to fill it after pulling it out of the van due to the weight.  I would do it that way anyway as my back plays upsometimes.  It may be better not to fill it completely if pulling it up gradients or steps (though the fitted hosereel could help out there).

The Fox

Re: are omnipole trolleys good
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2006, 09:20:19 am »
I use the Omnitrolly classic, great bit of kit; I have had no problems with it. Has far as the weight is concerned again no problems pushing it. Mind you I do not have to take it up and down many steps. I think it is best for working out of a van though; (I have tried out of a car and van) ever way you will need ramps to get it out if it is full . Wouldn’t try lifting it full

It’s all down to personal perception and what you expect, also your round, I think 50ltrs is the ideal size for domestic use, any bigger you may have problems with access and any less you might as well use a backpack.

Kevin

Paul Coleman

Re: are omnipole trolleys good
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2006, 09:32:53 am »
I use the Omnitrolly classic, great bit of kit; I have had no problems with it. Has far as the weight is concerned again no problems pushing it. Mind you I do not have to take it up and down many steps. I think it is best for working out of a van though; (I have tried out of a car and van) ever way you will need ramps to get it out if it is full . Wouldn’t try lifting it full

It’s all down to personal perception and what you expect, also your round, I think 50ltrs is the ideal size for domestic use, any bigger you may have problems with access and any less you might as well use a backpack.

Kevin


I don't have a weight problem with the 50 litre trolley though I always use a ramp in the van.  The good thing about a 125 litre trolley is that it can be used viably as a quasi van mount.

lee_dewing

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Re: are omnipole trolleys good
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2006, 10:39:14 am »
hi jinky i am to looking at getting a trolley i like the look of the omnitrolley's but in my limited opinion i don't think it's best for me, i am domestic 100% and i don't like the idea of lifting trolley in and out of van, i know you can get ramps or lift trolley out empty then fill up but if not empty still pushing up ramps or lifting; having to keep re-filling would imagine a pain; you could fit a tank in van with a submersible pump and then fill omnitrolley from tank.
    I've made a decision to go for a freedom trolley from adrew MCcann, if i find his website i will post his details.
  the reason for this is cheap small pratical.
little trolley houses a 25ltr container you fill about 10 of these from your house.
 when trolley has emptied, take out and just slot in new one.
spoke to him yesterday £995 inc vat trolley pole brush ro or di system,(ro is 100 gallons per day(400ltrs). he does bigger ro systems. you just need to buy 25 ltr containers as he supplies 1; £8.25 each and also a tank at home to house water 2x200 rain butts or ibc tanks.

what does ibc stand for (independant built container?)

also i hav recently been on ionics wfp course £111 very good.
  sorry to waffle i think omnitrolleys are good but it depends on your budget as cost can soon mount up i think omnipoles are expensive but maybe you get what you pay for.
look at my recent post aquatrolley some guys have built own and will do for a fee.
all said omnitrolley is very pretty but i think freedom trolley looks professional for what started out as a diy system.
goodluck lee
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

lee_dewing

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Re: are omnipole trolleys good
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2006, 10:42:44 am »
hi jinky i am to looking at getting a trolley i like the look of the omnitrolley's but in my limited opinion i don't think it's best for me, i am domestic 100% and i don't like the idea of lifting trolley in and out of van, i know you can get ramps or lift trolley out empty then fill up but if not empty still pushing up ramps or lifting; having to keep re-filling would imagine a pain; you could fit a tank in van with a submersible pump and then fill omnitrolley from tank.
    I've made a decision to go for a freedom trolley from adrew MCcann, if i find his website i will post his details.
  the reason for this is cheap small pratical.
little trolley houses a 25ltr container you fill about 10 of these from your house.
 when trolley has emptied, take out and just slot in new one.
spoke to him yesterday £995 inc vat trolley pole brush ro or di system,(ro is 100 gallons per day(400ltrs). he does bigger ro systems. you just need to buy 25 ltr containers as he supplies 1; £8.25 each and also a tank at home to house water 2x200 rain butts or ibc tanks.

what does ibc stand for (independant built container?)

also i hav recently been on ionics wfp course £111 very good.
  sorry to waffle i think omnitrolleys are good but it depends on your budget as cost can soon mount up i think omnipoles are expensive but maybe you get what you pay for.
look at my recent post aquatrolley some guys have built own and will do for a fee.
all said omnitrolley is very pretty but i think freedom trolley looks professional for what started out as a diy system.
goodluck lee ;)
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

The Fox

Re: are omnipole trolleys good
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2006, 10:42:58 am »
I have been thinking about 125 Omnitrolly As a mini van mount I would not like to take it out of the van full though.

I use 125 to 150 litres of water a day (only a small round) and all my work is within 5 miles so I can go home to fill up again if I need more water. The trouble I have is I work on one estate were cars have no access.

Maybe the solution is using a backpack as well with a transfer pump to transfer water into the backpack when the hose will not reach.

That way you have a self-contained unit for the van or car and a backpack for access difficulties.
 
Kevin

Re: are omnipole trolleys good
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2006, 10:46:06 am »
Hi again Lee


IBC stands for "Intermediate bulk container".

The containers are £8.00 each.. including VAT and delivery. 


Cheers

Andrew

The Fox

Re: are omnipole trolleys good
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2006, 10:53:41 am »
The only problem I can see with 25 litre trolleys is the fact that you may only have enough water left in one container to clean ½  a house so you have a choice go back to change container when empty or put a full container on before you start. At the end of the day you will have containers with some water in and have to top up one to make a full container. Or constantly return to the car half way through a job to change containers.

With a 50 litre Omnitrolly you will have less filling to do during the day so less time wasted.

Kevin

lee_dewing

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Re: are omnipole trolleys good
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2006, 10:57:54 am »
http://www.freedomwfp.co.uk
tel 01472 347519
do a search for freedom trolley on here alot of post
cheers lee
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

lee_dewing

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Re: are omnipole trolleys good
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2006, 10:59:51 am »
thanks andrew;
 cheers for the chat i will be in touch. :) lee
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

Re: are omnipole trolleys good
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2006, 11:08:06 am »
Re the 25 ltr container "problem" Kevin.

We take 10 of them out for the days work. We normally use 200 ltrs per day so hardly ever have to "top-up" any containers during the day.

I have used the system now for about a year and all I know is that we are around 50% faster than when using ladders and a whole lot safer.

Our work is also almost all domestic. a real mixture of it.

Cheers

Andrew

pjulk

Re: are omnipole trolleys good
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2006, 11:35:06 am »
I use the omnitrolley classic and i think its a great piece of kit.

Lee Dewing Said -
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i am domestic 100% and i don't like the idea of lifting trolley in and out of van, i know you can get ramps or lift trolley out empty then fill up but if not empty still pushing up ramps or lifting; having to keep re-filling would imagine a pain;

I am mostly domestic and use my trolley on everything all you need is a piece of plywood 3ft x 2ft approx
It take a few seconds to put that at the back of your van and pull your trolley out or push it in and its really easy.
As for filling it takes about 15 seconds a barrel just tip it right up.

I would not go for a smaller trolley myself as it would be a pain keep having to go back for water barrels.
I usually get 3 or 4 average sized semis done on one fill with the omnitrolley.

I am going to have to upgrade to the new omnitrolly 50ltr sometime as they have a hosereel attached and would make a good trolley a perfect trolley for me.

I have not tried andrews freedom trolley but a lot of people on here like it also.
So which ever trolley you choose im sure you would be happy with.

Paul

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Re: are omnipole trolleys good
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2006, 11:39:22 am »
My staff in there vehicle on doing tops and one doing bottoms will use over 500 litres a day just doing tops.

When i am out working on my own for a full day which is quite rare these days i can use up to 650 litres if not more at times and i do everything with it.

Dave

The Fox

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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2006, 12:12:59 pm »
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My staff in there vehicle on doing tops and one doing bottoms will use over 500 litres a day just doing tops.

When i am out working on my own for a full day which is quite rare these days i can use up to 650 litres if not more at times and i do everything with it.

Dave

My working day consists of about 3 to 3 ½ hours that’s why I do not need a lot of water

jinky230

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« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2006, 12:24:39 pm »
guys I have a couple of backpacks fitted to a sack trolley

we got tubing fitted to take the poles and hooks fitted to the sack trolley to take 30 metres of tubing hose for doing backs it is easy collected in your hands when you return to the fronts,I dont think buying a trolley thats takes 25 litres is the answer,only difference being instead of lifting the container out and placing a new one in you fill the backpack.

Trying to get away from this with the 125l omni trolley so you have a clear run at say 15-20 houses, we also have the autobrushes fitted to our poles to save water.

looks like horses for courses you either take the time at the start to fill the trolley or you fill constantly with containers, there has got to be an easy  way to keep water flowing to your brush, also dont fancy moving the vehicle every few houses--- gosh this is starting to sound like I dont like window cleaning, not really just looking to make life easier

jinky

jinky

The Fox

Re: are omnipole trolleys good
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2006, 12:48:27 pm »
I see were your coming from, 125 ltr Omnitrolley would be good if you have 15 to 20 houses next to each other, just leave it on the pavement and use the hose then push it to the next house. Trouble with that, only one man can work it.

At the end of the day there is no ideal situation, you just have to buy to suit your round or build a round to suit your equipment.

Kevin

jouk45

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« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2006, 12:59:15 pm »
saw this on shinners forum, going cheap, £50 ono i think



needs re-vamping. It needs a new pump, a better battery and a new on/off switch...and the wheel needs fixing. I could do it all myself and re-advertise it...but if anyone is interested...it's going cheap as it is at the moment...offers ?

jinky230

Re: are omnipole trolleys good
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2006, 01:28:51 pm »
kev I do whole streets of new houses all together, only problem they use the side for wheelie bins kids toys etc, you recon mounting a tank in the trailer I have would be the best direction, as the houses are al in 2 rows facing each other, just thought the trailing houses would be a delemma

any advice would help

jinky

JohnL

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Re: are omnipole trolleys good
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2006, 01:36:12 pm »
question for Andrew  re Freedom Trolley


 -  are you left handed, as in your  pictures you seem to be pulling the trolley with your left hand? I would pull with my right hand, so is the pole holder transferrable?   :)

or have I got it all wrong!   ;D

JohnL
West Somerset. On the edge of the Quantocks and looking at The Exmoor National Park.