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UK General Cleaning Forum => General Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: mancharry on January 19, 2006, 04:25:36 pm
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I built a website for my wifes company (www.maidsofhonour.net) and she has had a fantastic response from the internet. What experience has anyone else had?
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... she has had a fantastic response from the internet...
Could you be more specific?
Regrds,
Arthur
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does anyone else get as good response from their websites if they have one is what I mean.
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Most of my contract power washing work has come via my website and same with my agricultural work.
Its not been overwhelming, but it has been steady.
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i have a web site on yell.com no calls from it, waste of money
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Usually we receive enquiries over the phone, occasionally (0-3 times per months) by e-mail. I have a free listing on Yell.com and had 5 enquiries from it for the past month.
mancharry,
What did you mean saying “fantastic response”, could you put it in numbers?
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Hi
we get 3-5 jobs per day www.housebuddies.co.uk for domestic cleaning from the web but we do drop 5000 leaflets a week.
Get about 2 per week from yell.com but can be patchy though high quality leads last year I got a £600 job for the hq of the girl guides so it paid for itself straight away then did not get anything for 3 weeks?
I see the website as your online brochure people may look and research you before calling.
At my peak we got 30 calls a day now its 5 but there is alot more competition now.
Thanks
Carl
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Arthur
re response rates its averaged 5-10 email enquiries per week and about 3 phone calls a day.
House Buddies
Which search engines are you listed in can't find it on a web search?
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I must congratulate you You are number one. for Bolton
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I must congratulate you You are number one. for Bolton
Its not about how good your website is- although it has to do its job- its about where you appear in the search engine results. I spent a lot of time submitting the site and getting the keywords right to maximise results. I've done the same for other sites like www.edinburgh-cleaner.co.uk www.cleaner-manchester.co.uk www.cleaner-birmingham.co.uk these are all listed no.1 or 2 in Yahoo Msn Altavista Lycos when you search for a cleaner in these area ie 'cleaner in edinburgh'. Trying to crack Google at the moment with all of them but it's a bit more difficult! I'll get there in the end though!
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In addition, having a web site enables you to feature it on your fliers and newspaper advertising etc, gives your company a higher profile and allows potential customers to expand a bit further on the services your company offers.
So my next project is to get a web site up and running.
Paul
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We have a couple of enquires a month from our website but I mainly keep it going because it gives us the additional option of online payments by credit/debit cards. We have the website on all of our stationary and flyers. I also have it display on the front, back and sides of the car. www.centralwindowcleaners.co.uk
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hello mate,how much did it cost to set up yur paying arrangements(paypal).was it easy enough?
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In addition, having a web site enables you to feature it on your fliers and newspaper advertising etc, gives your company a higher profile and allows potential customers to expand a bit further on the services your company offers.
So my next project is to get a web site up and running.
Paul
Paul what area do you cover? I've got some off the shelf websites already listed in the search engines.
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i have a web site on yell.com no calls from it, waste of money
what is the web address - is it your own website or just a site made up by yell? We have a priority listing and weblink in yell and although its not the main introducer of business we get 3-4 enquiries a month from it. Most of our work comes from search engine results though and to be honest I was disappointed with yell especially as it cost me £300!
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hello mate,how much did it cost to set up yur paying arrangements(paypal).was it easy enough?
do you ever use ebay? have you got a paypal account?
I have but don't use it on the website, prefer cash but its so easy, you can accept payments on the site, send emails asking for payment and start a subscription-monthly payments. They charge about 3% which is ok as there are no set up fees like your bank would charge!
vivit the site at
https://www.paypal.com/uk
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We have a couple of enquires a month from our website but I mainly keep it going because it gives us the additional option of online payments by credit/debit cards. We have the website on all of our stationary and flyers. I also have it display on the front, back and sides of the car. www.centralwindowcleaners.co.uk
what is your web address and are you listed or has the site been submitted to search engines?
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We have a couple of enquires a month from our website but I mainly keep it going because it gives us the additional option of online payments by credit/debit cards. We have the website on all of our stationary and flyers. I also have it display on the front, back and sides of the car. www.centralwindowcleaners.co.uk
what is your web address and are you listed or has the site been submitted to search engines?
just checked you site and not search engine friendly see report below:
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mancharry you sound like you know what you are talking about.Does it cost alot to get your website so easily accessible?Who sorted that out for you?
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I have been using Ad Words for few months now, and have not had a single hit from it. So from my own experience I can say that people (in Newcastle) do not use search engine to find a cleaner.
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mancharry you sound like you know what you are talking about.Does it cost alot to get your website so easily accessible?Who sorted that out for you?
I made the website myself and used a little knowledge I've got and a few programmes to check keywords, page setup and search engine submissions. It only cost me my time and £12 for the domain name and hosting.
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I have been using Ad Words for few months now, and have not had a single hit from it. So from my own experience I can say that people (in Newcastle) do not use search engine to find a cleaner.
Searches done in December 2005
Count Search Term
54 cleaning newcastle services
34 commercial cleaning newcastle
29 cleaning newcastle office
28 cleaning newcastle
27 car cleaning newcastle
27 cleaning company newcastle
27 cleaning house newcastle
26 cleaning commercial newcastle services
26 valet cleaning newcastle
16 cleaning newcastle upholstery
13 cleaning company in newcastle tyne upon
12 carpet cleaning newcastle
There were a couple of hundred on MSN see above
You are probably using the wrong keywords.
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...You are probably using the wrong keywords.
Here are my key words:
Cleaners in Newcastle
Cleaners in Newcastle upon Tyne
Cleaners in Ponteland
Domestic cleaners in Darras Hall
Domestic cleaners in Newcastle
Domestic cleaners in Newcastle upon Tyne
Domestic cleaners in Ponteland
Domestic cleaning in Newcastle
Domestic cleaning in Newcastle upon Tyne
Ironing Services
Ironing service in Darras Hall
Ironing service in Newcastle
Ironing service in Newcastle upon Tyne
Ironing service in Ponteland
A & J Cleaning Services
A and J Cleaning Services
Cleaners in Darras Hall
Cleaners in Ponteland
Cleaning Services
Cleaning agency in Darras Hall
Cleaning agency in Newcastle
Cleaning agency in Newcastle upon Tyne
Cleaning agency in Ponteland
Cleaning in Darras Hall
Cleaning in Newcastle
Cleaning in Newcastle upon Tyne
Cleaning in Ponteland
Cleaning service in Darras Hall
Cleaning service in Newcastle
Cleaning service in Newcastle upon Tyne
Cleaning service in Ponteland
Darras Hall
Darras Hall cleaners
House Cleaning
House cleaning
Newcastle cleaners
Newcastle upon Tyne cleaners
Office cleaning in Newcastle
Office cleaning in Newcastle upon Tyne
Office cleaning in Ponteland
Oven cleaning in Darras Hall
Oven cleaning in Newcastle
Oven cleaning in Newcastle upon Tyne
Ponteland
Ponteland cleaners
ironing
residential cleaning
vileda
Cleaner
spring cleaning
"How clean is your house"
::)
As I said, I have not had a single hit
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...You are probably using the wrong keywords.
Here are my key words:
Cleaners in Newcastle
Cleaners in Newcastle upon Tyne
Cleaners in Ponteland
Domestic cleaners in Darras Hall
Domestic cleaners in Newcastle
Domestic cleaners in Newcastle upon Tyne
Domestic cleaners in Ponteland
Domestic cleaning in Newcastle
Domestic cleaning in Newcastle upon Tyne
Ironing Services
Ironing service in Darras Hall
Ironing service in Newcastle
Ironing service in Newcastle upon Tyne
Ironing service in Ponteland
A & J Cleaning Services
A and J Cleaning Services
Cleaners in Darras Hall
Cleaners in Ponteland
Cleaning Services
Cleaning agency in Darras Hall
Cleaning agency in Newcastle
Cleaning agency in Newcastle upon Tyne
Cleaning agency in Ponteland
Cleaning in Darras Hall
Cleaning in Newcastle
Cleaning in Newcastle upon Tyne
Cleaning in Ponteland
Cleaning service in Darras Hall
Cleaning service in Newcastle
Cleaning service in Newcastle upon Tyne
Cleaning service in Ponteland
Darras Hall
Darras Hall cleaners
House Cleaning
House cleaning
Newcastle cleaners
Newcastle upon Tyne cleaners
Office cleaning in Newcastle
Office cleaning in Newcastle upon Tyne
Office cleaning in Ponteland
Oven cleaning in Darras Hall
Oven cleaning in Newcastle
Oven cleaning in Newcastle upon Tyne
Ponteland
Ponteland cleaners
ironing
residential cleaning
vileda
Cleaner
spring cleaning
"How clean is your house"
::)
As I said, I have not had a single hit
Seems very strange. Are you still using the adwords campaign? How much were you paying per click. If you were not on the first page of results you've got little chance of getting a click.
To be on first page you need to be in first 8.
Try matching your title /description to the most popular search term
ie if the most impressions was on 'cleaning in newcastle' make your title 'cleaning in newcastle'
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I'll have a bet with you. I have just bought a web name for newcastle and will make a website and get it listed. I bet you that I get at least one enquiry before 21.2.06.
If I do, you buy it , if I don't you can have it for free!
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If I type “clean” in the Google tool bar, my ad will come up in the second position of the first page. I pay per clicks from 0.03 to 0.5, as much as it needed to see my ad on the first page. In my Ad Words complain I target very narrow location, because there is no reason for me to pay for clicks made from outside Newcastle.
Yesterday my web had 40 hits, 35 of which were from the USA. Number of clicks does not mean a lot does it?
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clicks turn into enquiries.
Is the bet on then or not?
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I do not see point in such bet, because in the end of the day I am not promoting my site nationwide or worldwide. I am promoting my business only in Newcastle area.
Thanks,
Arthur
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Yes Arthur I will get an enquiry from the newcastle uk area within one month. You say the web doesn't work for you I want to prove it will. I'm gonna do it anyway and post on here when I get the first enquiry.
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mancharry,
I have got 28 clicks from the USA one from Canada and only three from the UK.
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f145/wilno/image002.jpg)
What would you say/suggest?
Regards,
Arthur
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have a look at the regional setting on your adwords campaign. You have probably specified for your ads to be displayed worldwide and not the uk. You need to target uk only in your campaign. Login to adwords Select your campaign (tick box) then select 'edit settings' and specify uk only
This should do it. Let me know how you get on.
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The area which I have been targeting is in Newcastle upon Tyne ( only 20 miles around).
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f145/wilno/map.jpg)
American visitors have nothing to do with Ad Words campaign as I have not had a single hit from it.
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How does your site get the hits? If its from general search engines your title tags, description,keywords and page content need to be narrowed to the area you want to target.
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AJ
It's not hits that count but the visits, a lot of unscrupulous web builders,hosts etc will talk about the hits you get, this means nothing if they do not actually visit the site.
I also use Ad Words and get between 15-30 'visits' a day.
Your site also must have some good content to make the punters visit again and again and it must also be updated on a regular basis.
You should take another look at your keywording which clearly isn't working well if you have had no visits on your site. ;)
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...It's not hits that count but the visits...
When I say hit - I mean session another words visit. In one of my previous post in this topic I have a copy of my statistic for 22/01/2006.
….You should take another look at your keywording which clearly isn't working well if you have had no visits on your site. ;)
Below there is a copy of Ad Word statistic for my site, which shows that my web listed in the first 8, which is the first page, but so far I have not had any clicks/visitors from Ad Words. In my personal opinion it means that people in Newcastle upon Tyne area do not search for cleaning services on the internet.
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f145/wilno/image00222.jpg)
Regards,
Arthur
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Arthur
am building the site now for Newcastle, we will see.
In 2 weeks you will find it on Yahoo MSN Altavista within 4 weeks I will have an enquiry.
There a two immediate problems I see with your site and this is only my opinion, you can take it or leave it, no offence intended.
1, the home page takes too long to load before any information can be seen
2, maybe its my computer but all the text on the pages seems blurred and is hard to read.
(has anyone else seen this?)
Re your Google adwords campaign there are some campaigns showing over 1000 impressions (ie the number of times your ad has been displayed in search results) and you haven't had one click! You must be doing something wrong- the text in your ad must be relevant to the search term- on google if your ad text matches the search term it is highlighted in bold. This draws attention to your ad and should generate a click.
Other than that you should set the campaign to only show in the UK- this will stop american hits.
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mancharry,
Thank you for your respond,
Here is a copy of my ad on Ad Word:
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f145/wilno/image033.jpg)
Any suggestions to wording?
My site has been criticised here (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14617.0#msg105248). I welcome constructive criticisms, as it helps to improve things.
Regards,
Arthur
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Hi, sorry for the delay in replying. The payment page was really easy to setup, I just setup Paypal and Nochex accounts and they have a free service to create the buttons that link directly to your accounts.
Regarding my website currently when I search for Window cleaning in Nuneaton etc I am in the top five on google and yahoo. The same for my drive cleaning.
I keep updating my pages whenever I can to try to improve the things you mentioned, but am not to worried at the moment. I mainly point all my current customers to it for additional services and payments.
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Arthur
am building the site now for Newcastle, we will see.
In 2 weeks you will find it on Yahoo MSN Altavista within 4 weeks I will have an enquiry.
There a two immediate problems I see with your site and this is only my opinion, you can take it or leave it, no offence intended.
1, the home page takes too long to load before any information can be seen
2, maybe its my computer but all the text on the pages seems blurred and is hard to read.
(has anyone else seen this?)
Re your Google adwords campaign there are some campaigns showing over 1000 impressions (ie the number of times your ad has been displayed in search results) and you haven't had one click! You must be doing something wrong- the text in your ad must be relevant to the search term- on google if your ad text matches the search term it is highlighted in bold. This draws attention to your ad and should generate a click.
Other than that you should set the campaign to only show in the UK- this will stop american hits.
Hi
I didnt think it was blurred but i must admit i found it very long in loading, in fact if i was looking for a cleaning company and clicked that page ,i would in all honesty have clicked back of before the info had come up but apart from that its a very slick looking site.
chris
www.scsf.co.uk (not slick looking) ;)
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mancharry,
Thank you for your respond,
Here is a copy of my ad on Ad Word:
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f145/wilno/image033.jpg)
Any suggestions to wording?
My site has been criticised here (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14617.0#msg105248). I welcome constructive criticisms, as it helps to improve things.
Regards,
Arthur
Arthur
it depends what keywords you have been using and which ones have had the most impressions. Select the keyword(s) that has has had the most impressions and use it in your title instead of AJ cleaning-
I have made the website and uploaded it at www.newcastle-cleaner.co.uk Use the contact form on there to send me your email address, telephone number and specific geographical areas you want to target and I will set the site up to forward all enquiries to you. This will be totally free with no obligation for one month. If it hasn't worked we'll call it a day and change it back to my details but if it has worked you may consider letting me manage the internet for you while you concentrate on cleaning! What do you think?
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...I have made the website and uploaded it at www.newcastle-cleaner.co.uk Use the contact form on there to send me your email address, telephone number and specific geographical areas you want to target and I will set the site up to forward all enquiries to you. This will be totally free with no obligation for one month. If it hasn't worked we'll call it a day and change it back to my details but if it has worked you may consider letting me manage the internet for you while you concentrate on cleaning! What do you think?
mancharry,
Thank you for your advice and offer to help. “Hunting” customers on the internet is like fishing, let me have all the pleasure ;).
Regards,
Arthur
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...I have made the website and uploaded it at www.newcastle-cleaner.co.uk Use the contact form on there to send me your email address, telephone number and specific geographical areas you want to target and I will set the site up to forward all enquiries to you. This will be totally free with no obligation for one month. If it hasn't worked we'll call it a day and change it back to my details but if it has worked you may consider letting me manage the internet for you while you concentrate on cleaning! What do you think?
mancharry,
Thank you for your advice and offer to help. “Hunting” customers on the internet is like fishing, let me have all the pleasure ;).
Regards,
Arthur
Like anything else some are better at it than others. If you haven't got the patience let me know!
Peter
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Mancharry / Arthur
I and I assume lots of others are very interested in the outcome of this little experiment so I would appreciate it if you could keep us updated on progress and the end result.
If it works I might even sign up for one myself but at the moment I remain to be convinced.
Mick
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Like anything else some are better at it than others. If you haven't got the patience let me know!
Peter
Peter,
I have as many key words as possible, I have now tree ads with different wording. I will change my site, thank for the criticism and hopefully local people will be visiting my web more often.
Thank anyway,
Regards,
Arthur.
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....If it works I might even sign up for one myself but at the moment I remain to be convinced.
Mick
Mick,
Peter offer one moth free trial, just ask.
Good luck,
Arthur
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Got first click today from AdWords!
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Central Window Cleaners Said -
I keep updating my pages whenever I can to try to improve the things you mentioned, but am not to worried at the moment. I mainly point all my current customers to it for additional services and payments
You keep updating you website.... Yea right
Look at my site which is nearly two years old.
I made this myself and put the words in in my own writing
http://www.1stclasscleaning.co.uk/
Now look at your site unless your psychic how come most of your site is like mine word perfect.
I know you have changed the header and put some more text in.
When i made my site i wanted something that is not the same as other and now you rip most of this off
Here is your site
http://centralwindowcleaners.co.uk/
It made me laugh where you even put in the copyright info how can you copyright something you stolen.
I don't mind people using my ideas but would have been nice to have been asked
Paul
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I can send you some html code to paste into your pages that will stop the average person knicking your pics etc send me your email address via www.newcastle-cleaner.co.uk and I'll send it to you.
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Thats naughty, but how do we know who did the first one?
chris
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Got first click today from AdWords!
I am glad you are getting there. I've already had 2 clicks from adwords since saturday- no enquiries yet though but not submitted to any other search engines yet.
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Got first click today from AdWords!
I am glad you are getting there. I've already had 2 clicks from adwords since saturday- no enquiries yet though but not submitted to any other search engines yet.
The key-word, which I had click from, was “molly maid”, but I did not have enquiry after that click. May I ask you how much you pay per click for key-word “Cleaners in Newcastle”, the reason I am asking is because my ad comes third and yours first. Excuse me if my question is not appropriate.
Regards,
Arthur
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Thats naughty, but how do we know who did the first one?
I have all the templates i would gladly show anyone
and any changes i have made over the last 2 years.
Plus i would not say if it was not true.
He only had too ask i would have gave him some templates but asked him to change the wording.
Paul
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Arthur
other factors affect your position ie how much you spend per day- at peak times if you up the amount to say £100 per day your ads will get better exposure. My max bid is 20p
I have no problem with any of your questions and will give you an honest answer. I dont have a business in newcastle but have the means to make one work!
Peter
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Tnx Peter
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Tnx Peter
ARTHUR
GOT FIRST ENQUIRY TODAY FOR A ONE OFF CLEAN WITH A POSSIBILITY OF REGULAR WORK IN THE FAWDON AREA FOR A 3 BEDROOM HOUSE---DO YOU WANT TO DEAL WITH IT? I WILL FORWARD YOU THE DETAILS IF YOU LIKE.
PETER
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Guys
I would love to build my own website. I have my own domain name etc and I was going to get someone to buid it for me but I would rather try myself first. What do I need to put a reasonable site together? Or is it a 'go on a course' type thing.
Regards
Tim
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Mancharry,
I've taken a look at your newcastle-cleaner.co.uk website.
Google might not like the keyword spamming much. It might be worth you toning in down a bit?
Andy
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Hi Paul,
sorry you think I ment to copy your pages but the text and pics I have been using since I started my site over a year ago.
I did reuse the idea of your left hand buttons but the logo etc I have been using for over 3 months since my last revision.
I would be happy to change this if you are not happy with it.
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Mancharry,
I've taken a look at your newcastle-cleaner.co.uk website.
Google might not like the keyword spamming much. It might be worth you toning in down a bit?
Andy
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YOU ONLY GET PENALISED FOR KEYWORD SPAMMING IN TITLE, DESCRIPTION AND KEYWORDS- NOT THE TEXT ON THE PAGE!
I HAVE CHECKED ALL PAGE SETUP ISSUES AND THEY ARE ALL FINE ACCORDING TO MSN
THANKS FOR THE ADVICE ANYWAY!
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Guys
I would love to build my own website. I have my own domain name etc and I was going to get someone to buid it for me but I would rather try myself first. What do I need to put a reasonable site together? Or is it a 'go on a course' type thing.
Regards
Tim
MY ADVICE WOULD BE TO BUY A WEB BUILDING PROGRAM WITH TEMPLATES IN IT AND USE ONE OF THOSE. YOU CAN GET THEM FOR ABOUT £20.
IT WILL STILL TAKE YOU AGES TO SUSS OUT HOW TO USE IT THOUGH- I SPENT ABOUT 2 YEARS WORKING WITH MINE - I AM NOW ABLE TO DO MOST THINGS ON MY OWN BUT IT HAS TAKEN A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT UNDERSTANDING HOW AND WHY THINGS WORK.
HAVING A WEBSITE IS GREAT AND YOU CAN SPEND THOUSANDS ON HAVING ONE MADE OR MANY HOURS BUILDING YOUR OWN BUT THIS IS WORTH NOTHING IF YOU DON'T GET THE SITE LISTED AND GET PEOPLE ON IT.
TRUST ME, ITS NOT WORTH THE TIME AND EFFORT IF YOU DON'T!
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Man Cherry
Thankyou
Paul
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ARTHUR
GOT 2ND ENQUIRY NOW IN A PLACE CALLED 'JESMOND' 2 BED APPARTMENT WANTS WEEKLY CLEANING.
NOT BAD AFTER 3 DAYS EH!
DO YOU WANT TO DEAL WITH THIS ENQUIRY ASWELL?
PETER
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Peter
Why is it that only your Bolton site makes it to number 1 on Google ? Is there a technical reason
I would have thought that it was the most important one. Personally speaking I have used Google almost exclusively for the last 5 years or more. Prior to that I used Yahoo but I have never used the others. Not sure if I am typical or not
Mick
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Hello Peter,
I have sent you e-mail through www.newcastle-cleaner.co.uk.
Regards,
Arthur
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Peter
Why is it that only your Bolton site makes it to number 1 on Google ? Is there a technical reason
I would have thought that it was the most important one. Personally speaking I have used Google almost exclusively for the last 5 years or more. Prior to that I used Yahoo but I have never used the others. Not sure if I am typical or not
Mick
Hi Mark
Google really is the daddy but its the hardest to crack! Maybe I just got lucky with Maids of Honour- maybe an editor just liked the name who knows! All I know is that I will keep trying on all the sites I have and sooner or later I'll get there. Most of the site are in google but don't appear on the first page for the obvious keywords but search on Google for example 'domestic cleaning quote edinburgh' and the site there is No 1- search for 'domestic cleaner edinburgh' and its nowhere! Still trying to work out but I only made the sites in december so less than a month has passed!
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Hi Arthur
Sorry I have not responded quicker, I advertise on yell.com, and advertise my web site in my targeted area via leaflets and parish magazines.
I find my web site is used as an online brochure to check the company out before booking.
I did try google adwords but I am to thick to set it up properly!!!
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.... I advertise on yell.com, and advertise my web site in my targeted area via .....parish magazines....
I promote my business in the same way. Does yell.com work for you?
Regards,
Arthur
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If anyone has a cleaning business in manchester edinburgh or bristol and wants some enquiries for domestic cleaning I have fully functioning highly listed websites available which have already had enquiries.
They are going to waste at the moment!
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Heres a couple of good ones
http://www.mikes-marketing-tools.com/ranking-reports/
that will check your rankings in all search engines
Then there is http://www.copernic.com this will search all the search engines, this is the one i use every day for searching (small download but worth it, get the free one and youll never use google again)
chris
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Heres a couple of good ones
http://www.mikes-marketing-tools.com/ranking-reports/
that will check your rankings in all search engines...
Thanks Chris,
Have you got any links/tips, which would help to improve the ranking for free? Do you get enquiries from the internet?
I noticed http://www.scsf.co.uk promoted by Ad Words.
Since I started my Ad Words campaign I have only had one click, but no enquiries from it, so I decided to try Peter's (mancharry) service for couple of months to see whether it works for me.
However, I should say that about two weeks ago I started advertising on yell.com and have already had three enquiries from it!
Kind regards,
Arthur
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Hi arthur
I have done better from yell than any other form of advertising even though i have a fairly good ranking in google with www.imagecleaning.org (search cleaning in birmingham or solihull)
chris
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Hi Arthur
Yell has good months and then really bad ones but I have always come out on top I think it is one of those things that gets better over the years so I will stick it out.
Thanks
Carl
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some of you on this thread seem to know a bit about websites so if you could give me your views on mine it would be apreciated www.carpetcleaningessex.com
what can be done to improve this site?
how does it view on your screens as iv only viewed it of mine, do the pictures take a long time to come up?
and how can i improve my search engine listings?
would any of you be able to get it listed at the top of the search engines for me? and if so how much would you charge me to do this?
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some of you on this thread seem to know a bit about websites so if you could give me your views on mine it would be apreciated www.carpetcleaningessex.com
what can be done to improve this site?
how does it view on your screens as iv only viewed it of mine, do the pictures take a long time to come up?
and how can i improve my search engine listings?
would any of you be able to get it listed at the top of the search engines for me? and if so how much would you charge me to do this?
Just had a quick look and found the following
Meta tags analysis for www.carpetcleaningessex.com/
Title: Title relevancy to page content is terrible.
The Title relevancy to page content is 0%.
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Description: Description relevancy to page content is terrible.
The Description relevancy to page content is 0%.
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Keywords: Keyword relevancy to page content is terrible.
The keywords relevancy to page content is 0%.
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Robots: Found no robots meta tag.
This tag is not really required but helps spiders to index the web page.
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Author: Found no author meta tag.
This tag is not really required but helps for your (company) name recognizing.
sorry to be the bearer of bad news but its not good!
have a look at this one I just made
www.carpet-cleaning-kent.co.uk this is the report for that one
Meta tags analysis.
Title: Title meta tag contains no errors.
This tag contains 66 characters.
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Title relevancy to page content is excellent.
The Title relevancy to page content is 100%.
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Description: Description meta tag contains no errors.
This tag contains 112 characters.
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Description relevancy to page content is excellent.
The Description relevancy to page content is 100%.
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Keywords: Keywords meta tag contains no errors.
This tag contains 6 keywords and 91 characters.
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Keyword relevancy to page content is excellent.
The keywords relevancy to page content is 100%.
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Robots: Found no robots meta tag.
This tag is not really required but helps spiders to index the web page.
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Author: The Author meta tag contains no errors.
This tag contains 46 characters.
BASICALLY IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT YOUR SITE LOOKS LIKE ITS JUST HOW IT GETS PICKED UP BY SEARCH ENGINES.
I CAN BUILD YOU A SITE AND GET IT LISTED FOR £59 PER MONTH!
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...what can be done to improve this site?
how does it view on your screens as iv only viewed it of mine, do the pictures take a long time to come up?....
With broadband connection it did not take me more than couple of seconds to open your website, I guess everybody has broadband these days. The site looks good to me, I would not make any more comments as my own website came under a heavy criticism and I have not yet sorted it out.
Arthur
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hi mancherry,
i had a report like the one you have just shown done on my site before and it said it was a lot better than that ???
the adress i just gave you was another domain name i have that points to my original site, does this make a difference?
my original site is www.vipcarpetcleaningessex.com would it make any difference if you got the report on that adress?
what sort of listings would you get me for £59 a month?
would you be able to get it listed as it is, or would you need to create a new site from scratch?
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hi
why dont you try yourself? have a go with google adwords after a few minutes you will have cracked it! and if you open your index file in your web software (open the html bit) you can easily make the changes suggested, dont worry its not a geeky thing! anyone can do it, some people make it sound complicating but its not!
chris
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cheers chris,
(anyone can do it, some people make it sound complicating but its not!)
you have just made it sound complicated to me ??? index file ??? web software ??? html bit ???
thats all just gone over my head mate, computers aint my thing
did you look at my site? i have put a link to scsf
why dont we find someone who knows there stuff and try and use our buying power through scsf to get a good deal?
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iv been trying to do some research on all this on the web and i have found a site that helps you build meta tags, this is what i have come up with
<title>carpet cleaning essex</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<meta name="Description" content="carpet & upholstery cleaning by steam clean method our cleaners clean carpet and upholstery throughout essex loughton essex harlow essex chigwell">
<meta name="Keywords" content="carpet cleaning essex, carpet cleaner essex, carpet cleaning harlow, carpet cleaner harlow, carpet cleaning loughton, carpet cleaner loughton, carpet cleaning buckhurst hill, carpet cleaner buckhurst hill, carpet steam cleaning essex, carpet cleaning woodford, carpet cleaner woodford, carpet cleaning chigwell, carpet cleaner chigwell, carpet cleaning waltham abbey, carpet cleaner waltham abbey, carpet cleaning ware, carpet cleaner ware, carpet cleaning herts, carpet cleaner herts, carpet cleaning hertfordshire, carpet cleaner hertfordshire, carpet cleaning ig10, carpet cleaner ig10, carpet cleaning en9, carpet cleaner en9,">
im not sure i have got this right ???
if i have, how do i now add these meta tags to my site
i have changed the title so it is now less than 60 letters
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hi
in the software that you build your site, you must be able to open it in "html"
Have a look, then replace what you have with the new coding
or you may be able to open document properties and insert them there.
chris
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FastHosts (http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/hosting/google-adwords) gives away £30 AdWords vouchers
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just built our new website www.solarcleaningservices.com (http://www.solarcleaningservices.com)
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just built our new website www.solarcleaningservices.com (http://www.solarcleaningservices.com)
its a nice fast loading site, very well set out,( i presume you have registered it with the search engines, only i couldnt find it ) one thing though its not a good idea to put your site up half finished especially the page where you have the examples of the work you have done so far, its more than likely if you a potential client goes on there now, they will not go back, but look elswhere, dont be to hasty to put it up half finished, it would be a shame on such a well thought out site.
chris
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hi mancherry,
i had a report like the one you have just shown done on my site before and it said it was a lot better than that ???
the adress i just gave you was another domain name i have that points to my original site, does this make a difference?
my original site is www.vipcarpetcleaningessex.com would it make any difference if you got the report on that adress?
what sort of listings would you get me for £59 a month?
would you be able to get it listed as it is, or would you need to create a new site from scratch?
I would be better creating a new site. I can't guarantee anything but look at what I did for maidsofhonour.net-- its listed first 3 on all search engines (Google Yahoo Msn Altavista Ask Jeeves etc) for anything domestic cleaner related in bolton. Only just made the carpet cleaning site so will be interesting to see. Made a site for A & J a week ago and now listed top 4 on Yahoo for keywords domestic cleaner, cleaning, cleaners in newcastle or newcastle upon tyne
For £59 you get use of web name, site design & build, hosting, management, search engine optimisation, monthly search engine submission, site counter, £10 google adwords campaign and changes to site every month.
This leaves you to get on with your job and no html or computer jargon to worry about!
contact me via the website www.carpet-cleaning-kent.co.uk if you like.
Peter
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I have just made some changes to my website (http://cleaningforyou.co.uk) could members of this forum say whether the text on the pages seems blurred and is hard to read. Any other comments welcome.
Many thanks,
Arthur
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Arthur text not blurred on my pc now. Site loads a lot quicker aswell. Looking good!
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arthur,
i had a look on your site the other day and was gonna comment on how slow the text was coming up and that if i was a potential customer i would have just clicked of and gone to another site, and was gonna suggest you change it.
but you beat me to it, it looks loads better good luck with it.
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iv tried having a play about with my site, although i really havent got a clue and im now listing
1st on msn
2nd on lycos
3rd on yahoo
3rd on alta vista
maybey someone who knows there stuff could help me with the meta tags and html etc. for a one of fee?
if anyone is interested in helping me get the most out of my site for a one of fee please let me know.
i allready have the domain name and the site is set up allready, i know how to make any changes to the site myself and i know how to submit to search engines.
but i could do with help with making it more search engine friendly with these meta tags and links etc. this bit i dont understand ???
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what are you searching for when you say you are No 1
you need to search for what people will search for ie 'carpet cleaner essex' and see where your site comes up.
Peter
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carpet cleaning essex
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tried typing in carpet cleaner essex and
yahoo 2nd place
lycos not on front page
alta vista 4th place
msn not on front page
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tried typing in carpet cleaner essex and
yahoo 2nd place
lycos not on front page
alta vista 4th place
msn not on front page
MADE SITE FOR CARPET CLEANER ON SATURDAY AND HE GOT HIS FIRST ENQUIRY MONDAY-DOING JOB NXT MONDAY-3 BED HOUSE
NOT IN SEARCH ENGINES YET BUT WILL BE IN NEXT 3 WEEKS
TO SORT YOUR SITE OUT I WOULD NEED FTP ACCESS CODES- ITS UPTO YOU WHETHER YOU CAN TRUST ME OR NOT-HOWEVER MY WEBBUILDING SOFTWARE MAY NOT BE COMPATABLE WITH YOURS SO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SORT-
EMAIL ME THROUGH www.cleaner-bolton.co.uk AND WE CAN DISCUSS
PETER
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Arthur
site now listed in Yahoo, MSN,Lycos, HotBot, Alta Vista first page top 5.
for
(domestic) cleaner or cleaners or cleaning (in) newcastle (upon tyne)
Should attract even more enquiries now!
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tried typing in carpet cleaner essex and
yahoo 2nd place
lycos not on front page
alta vista 4th place
msn not on front page
Have a look at this site I just made www.carpet-cleaning-essex.co.uk
just optimised for yor area and submitted to search engines.
Will see in a few weeks where it gets in the search engines.
Peter
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hi peter, i will be watching this site with interest, if and when you do get enquiries i will be willing to take them and pay you a fair commission for any work you supply me so please bear me in mind when they come.
up untill know i have just used my site as a online brochure and have never really tried to generate new work through it.
i would still rather use my own site as my site is personalised to my company and is used as a online brochure.
i guess your site is geared to get inquiries, and mine to try and close them.
please give me your e-mail and i will give you the log in details to my site so you can take a look and let me know if you can help me to optimise mine.
if not maybey i could still use this new site you have set up, i take it its for sale, and just have two sites maybey we could use your site to get me the enquiries and then have a link to mine so they could find out a bit more?
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hi peter, i will be watching this site with interest, if and when you do get enquiries i will be willing to take them and pay you a fair commission for any work you supply me so please bear me in mind when they come.
up untill know i have just used my site as a online brochure and have never really tried to generate new work through it.
i would still rather use my own site as my site is personalised to my company and is used as a online brochure.
i guess your site is geared to get inquiries, and mine to try and close them.
please give me your e-mail and i will give you the log in details to my site so you can take a look and let me know if you can help me to optimise mine.
if not maybey i could still use this new site you have set up, i take it its for sale, and just have two sites maybey we could use your site to get me the enquiries and then have a link to mine so they could find out a bit more?
The site can be personalized to your business- all the info on your site can be put on this one- I just do the sites how I think they will attract business, when someone uses it I personalize it to their business- see www.cleaner-london.co.uk and www.beachcarpetcleaning.co.uk
I will contact you via your site.
Peter
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I would just like to say that today I got another enquiry from www.newcastle-cleaner.co.uk. In less than two weeks I have received 5 enquiries from Mancharry's website, which he set up for me.
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i get some clicks, but not really any enquiries to my website. what can i do?
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My website has only been "live" since Monday 6th February 2006 and surprisingly have had over 450 hits and plenty of enquiries coming in just after 1 local newspaper ad, fliers are being done this week too.
Tracey.
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i like your website.
i put out 600 leaflets on friday, had 1 phone call, going to survey on weds.
i got some people ringing me about commercial lately. Its only been this past week though. And some moving in cleans 3-4 weeks time.
I'm advertised all over the place. I need to get more leaflets out i think, or people in my area aren't thinking about cleaning at the moment wih this drab weather.
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Very nice website Tracey, welcoming
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Well thanks very much Arthur! I quite like it and also think its quite welcoming and friendly! Out of curiosity i looked at your website and thought how nice it was to see a picture of yourself and your wife on there, a nice personal touch!
Tracey.
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:) tnx
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There is someone from this site (cleanitup) from Blackpool who keeps clicking on my Google adwords payperclick adverts and seems to be spending a lot of time on my websites. His ip address is 86.139.118.#. I can only assume he is stealing the content and ideas and generally trying to cost me some money. As I know his ip address and that he uses bt to connect to the internet, I will easily be able to track him down.
If it is you please stop! If you know who it is please tell them to stop.
Thanks
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Its actually Lancaster not Blackpool!
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why would he or she be spending that much time on your site to steal ideas content? when it could take 3 minutes to cut and paste the contents in one visit?, i dont honestly think you should mention the word theft especially until you know for certain.
Are they clicking just to add up the (so much per click) do you think? if so thats pretty sad
chris
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you cannot right click copy and paste on any of my sites. Theft is theft. Terms and conditions on my sites clearly state that users cannot reproduce information either text or graphics- I spoke to a solicitor the other day and they are enforceable.
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you cannot right click copy and paste on any of my sites. Theft is theft. Terms and conditions on my sites clearly state that users cannot reproduce information either text or graphics- I spoke to a solicitor the other day and they are enforceable.
Hi,
You can view source on this one, http://www.cleaner-bristol.co.uk/
I really dont think anybodys stealing the html from the site, it'll just be another cleaning company, its very common, try searching on adwords I think their is some information on their about this problem and what you can do about it.
regards
Paul
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you cannot right click copy and paste on any of my sites. Theft is theft. Terms and conditions on my sites clearly state that users cannot reproduce information either text or graphics- I spoke to a solicitor the other day and they are enforceable.
Hi,
You can view source on this one, http://www.cleaner-bristol.co.uk/
I really dont think anybodys stealing the html from the site, it'll just be another cleaning company, its very common, try searching on adwords I think their is some information on their about this problem and what you can do about it.
regards
Paul
Thanks Paul, I have already taken those steps. It's very suspicious when the same person is on your site for upt o 37 minutes at a time 5 times a day!
I am thinking of asking the cleanitup mediator for details of the member whose ip address matches the one I quoted.
Peter
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you cannot right click copy and paste on any of my sites. Theft is theft. Terms and conditions on my sites clearly state that users cannot reproduce information either text or graphics- I spoke to a solicitor the other day and they are enforceable.
Calm down you are not listening, i am saying that why would people keep coming back to steal stuff from your site when if they wanted they could do it in 3 mins, yes theft is theft , but people do take bits and ideas from other sites, there would be no internet otherwise, and anything in this country reproduced on a web site is copyright(for what its worth)
chris
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Take a look at my new website
www.cleaner-network.co.uk
a lot of people on here will find it interesting.
Peter
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i wondererd where you had gone....now i know...youve been a busy boy :o
chris
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i wondererd where you had gone....now i know...youve been a busy boy :o
chris
no rest for the wicked! Not that I'm wicked.
Always on the go. always got new ideas. Makes life interesting!
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So Arthur n(A and J),
I'm confused. Which web site are you using?
Is it the one on your profile or the one that mancharry says they have made for you?
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So Arthur n(A and J),
I'm confused. Which web site are you using?
Is it the one on your profile or the one that mancharry says they have made for you?
BOTH!!!!
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So Arthur n(A and J),
I'm confused. Which web site are you using?
Is it the one on your profile or the one that mancharry says they have made for you?
BOTH!!!!
Arthurs website is Arthurs website.
Arthur has been trying my website to compare results.
Can you only have one website?
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So you do free trials?
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So Arthur n(A and J),
I'm confused. Which web site are you using?
Is it the one on your profile or the one that mancharry says they have made for you?
Karl,
My own website is always on (http://http:.cleaningforyou.co.uk). I have designed it myself as well as my ads and stationary, which are in the same style. My website helps a lot, I got more enquiries, since I started advertise with yell.com.
I have paid for two months to mancharry to run a web for me, which is under his full management… I am receiving regular enquiries from his website, but most from outside the area we are currently serving… I think that my business is just too small at the moment.
I am not sure if this is the way to hunt for a commercial cleaning work, but for domestic cleaning companies, which serve biger areas, than I do at this moment, miscarry’s service can really help to get more business.
Kind regards,
Arthur
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So you do free trials?
No frre trials
Do you do free trials for your customers?
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During the last week I got at least five enquiries from miscarry’s website
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So you do free trials?
No frre trials
Do you do free trials for your customers?
No, but if my clients aren't happy with my service they don't pay.
I thought as aj was running one of your sites alongside his, you had gave him a try before you buy option
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[...I thought as aj was running one of your sites alongside his, you had gave him a try before you buy option
Arthur,
As soon as Peter (mancharry) posted here (just look up) that he received two enquiries from his Newcastle website I agreed to pay for two months trial service. I have not had a free trial, just could not accept service for free…
Kind regards,
Arthur
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So you do free trials?
No frre trials
Do you do free trials for your customers?
No, but if my clients aren't happy with my service they don't pay.
I thought as aj was running one of your sites alongside his, you had gave him a try before you buy option
£59 is not enough to cover the cost of my time making and optimising a site for someone. I am confident that I can produce the goods and thats why I do it. I expect people to show confidence in me and pay for what should end up to be a long term relationship. If it doesn't work you are not tied in by a contract and you can cancel at any time. If you get one weekly job from the site in a month this will more than cover the cost. The birmingham site had over 35 enquiries last month alone!
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five enquiries from miscarry’s website
I just LOVE the play on words ;D ;D ;D ;D
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five enquiries from miscarry’s website
I just LOVE the play on words ;D ;D ;D ;D
Karl,
Let me put it this way: five requests for service, one was accepted the others were not...
How about that?
:)
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five enquiries from miscarry’s website
I just LOVE the play on words ;D ;D ;D ;D
My name is Peter, my user name is mancharry. Maybe you should just use Peter "GOD" of cleaning websites then you will know who I am- just for you "cleanitup GOD" 8)
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five enquiries from miscarry’s website
I just LOVE the play on words ;D ;D ;D ;D
My name is Peter, my user name is mancharry. Maybe you should just use Peter "GOD" of cleaning websites then you will know who I am- just for you "cleanitup GOD" 8)
steady there!.....peter :P
chris
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... I am- just for you "cleanitup GOD" 8)
:o
Not for me >:(
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I have had a web site from www.cleaner-network.co.uk for 3 weeks & it is already paying for itself 8)
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... I am- just for you "cleanitup GOD" 8)
:o
Not for me >:(
Arthur this was intended for the author of the message (not you) who seems to have a very negative attitude. Peter
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Hi Guys,
I think it's important to realise that these sites are only appearing on the search engine front pages because they are being paid for through Google adwords.
For example if you search carpet cleaning in Essex on Google , the sponsored sites are on top or the right and everytime you click on them the site owner has to pay .The amount depends on how much he is prepared to pay and how much others are prepared to pay.
This should not be confused with the actual search results which are in the main body of the page , these are free of charge and are ranked by relevance etc.
My site apperas on top because I have spent a lot of time in getting it there .
There are no quick fixes.
Cheers
Doug
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Hi Guys,
I think it's important to realise that these sites are only appearing on the search engine front pages because they are being paid for through Google adwords.
For example if you search carpet cleaning in Essex on Google , the sponsored sites are on top or the left and evreytime you click on them the site owner has to pay .The amount depends on how much he is prepared to pay and how much others are prepared to pay.
This should not be confused with the actual search results which are in the main body of the page , these are free of charge and are ranked by relevance etc.
My site apperas on top because I have spent a lot of time in getting it there .
There are no quick fixes.
Cheers
Doug
you obviously haven't searched on msn yahoo or lycos then because if you had you would find the sites on the first page! Many in N0 1 POSITION
Google is harder to crack and takes a bit longer.
To prove you wrong search for 'car repairs bolton' 'mot bolton' or 'car service bolton' on MSN and you will see District Garage on the first page on all search results. I only finished & submitted this site on tuesday.
Peter
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Hi Guys,
I think it's important to realise that these sites are only appearing on the search engine front pages because they are being paid for through Google adwords.
For example if you search carpet cleaning in Essex on Google , the sponsored sites are on top or the left and evreytime you click on them the site owner has to pay .The amount depends on how much he is prepared to pay and how much others are prepared to pay.
This should not be confused with the actual search results which are in the main body of the page , these are free of charge and are ranked by relevance etc.
My site apperas on top because I have spent a lot of time in getting it there .
There are no quick fixes.
Cheers
Doug
PS Have checked your rankings out - well done you heve done very well to get up there- must have taken a lot of hard work. Will try and join you in the next few weeks.
Peter
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Peter ,
I too have put a fencing site top of MSN in a week , but it's Google which really counts and that is much more difficult , but like all things in life the harder it is the more worthwhile.
You obviously enjoy this sort of thing as do I , so good luck.
Cheers
Doug
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I would suggest that most people use google to search. I do. Everyone I know does too.
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Peter ,
I too have put a fencing site top of MSN in a week , but it's Google which really counts and that is much more difficult , but like all things in life the harder it is the more worthwhile.
You obviously enjoy this sort of thing as do I , so good luck.
Cheers
Doug
Thats why I include a £10 google adwords in my offer so people can be on google straight away. I then work on google to get the site in, but it usually takes a bit longer.
Good luck to you too!
Peter
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I would suggest that most people use google to search. I do. Everyone I know does too.
can't find your site in Google
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I never suggested you could????????
I said 'I' use google to search.
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found it at the top in "cleaning in shroshire"
chris
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found it at the top in "cleaning in shroshire"
chris
"shroshire" wheres that?
Your site is no.1 on sponsored links for 'cleaning in shropshire' not in the general listings
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Sponsored or not, it's number 1.
I think it was you who said that 'Google takes a little longer'. When I've worked on the site like others have, got it 'optimised' I will draw back the Adwords campaign.
But at the moment it's number 1 on Google, sponsored or not. That's good enough for me.
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well done karl! although i,m not that kean now much on adwords, ive had my site listed on cleaning in birmingham and solihull on the first page and had 8 clicks in 2 weeks!
chris
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Sponsored or not, it's number 1.
I think it was you who said that 'Google takes a little longer'. When I've worked on the site like others have, got it 'optimised' I will draw back the Adwords campaign.
But at the moment it's number 1 on Google, sponsored or not. That's good enough for me.
Oh sorry I thought you meant my sites weren't listed in google in the unpaid search results therefore they were no good. All my sites are listed in google adwords while I get them listed in google free listings. MSN Yahoo and others are fairly easy to get to be no 1 if you know what you are doing. Google is harder but my goal on all sites is to be no1 on google aswell!
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Mancherry, is this one of your sites?
http://www.beachcarpetcleaning.co.uk/
If so the front page content is so bad its laughable, are you informing the customer you are in Kent or brainwashing them.
OMG, just had a look through all your links, they are ALL that bad. They are all the same.
Has anyone on here actually taken you up on your website service?
Second best laugh of the night, cheers ;D
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Just picked myself up off the floor......................
Do people pay you to provide that? :D :D :D :D
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Mancherry, is this one of your sites?
http://www.beachcarpetcleaning.co.uk/
If so the front page content is so bad its laughable, are you informing the customer you are in Kent or brainwashing them.
OMG, just had a look through all your links, they are ALL that bad. They are all the same.
Has anyone on here actually taken you up on your website service?
Second best laugh of the night, cheers ;D
lots of people have opinions on here and yours is as valid as any other. What you don't seem to understand is that people who do actually use my sites actually get business from them and that is the main point!
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Just picked myself up off the floor......................
Do people pay you to provide that? :D :D :D :D
Your comments don't warrant a sensible reply.
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Just picked myself up off the floor......................
Do people pay you to provide that? :D :D :D :D
Your comments don't warrant a sensible reply.
I doubt if there IS one.
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so am i right in thinking you cover KENT ::) ;D
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So you do free trials?
No frre trials
Do you do free trials for your customers?
I asked what i thought was a reasonable question and got an abrupt answer.
How many others use this kind of approach to potential clients ???
Is it some sort of new marketing approach ???
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Sorry SNA if you thought I was abrupt. Was getting a lot of stick at the time!
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MMmmm . .. Gods.
::)
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Mancherry, is this one of your sites?
http://www.beachcarpetcleaning.co.uk/
If so the front page content is so bad its laughable, are you informing the customer you are in Kent or brainwashing them.
OMG, just had a look through all your links, they are ALL that bad. They are all the same.
Has anyone on here actually taken you up on your website service?
Second best laugh of the night, cheers ;D
Have you got a website? How many enquiries do you get from it?
You obviously know it all so I'm packing in making websites for people that get them enquiries and make them money.....NOT!
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so am i right in thinking you cover KENT ::) ;D
I cover anywhere someone wants a website. I have made a carpet cleaning website for kent which is listed no 1 or 2 in Yahoo & MSN and is listed in google. Why?
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Mancherry, they may well be number one in the listings, but I would seriously question the quality of the leads they generate.
In my opinion a website should be easy to read, user friendly and make the enquierer want to use your services. Your websites offer none of these qualities and if it was a website I stumbled across no way would I want to use that service.
I also think it is a matter of time before the search engine companies will wise up to how you've got your listings into that position and just dump it out the ratings all together.
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I had a site done for me by mancharry,and I can confirm you are wrong on all counts.It does produce quality enquiries,it is user friendly,and it has been submitted in the correct manner to the search engines.
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Mancherry, they may well be number one in the listings, but I would seriously question the quality of the leads they generate.
In my opinion a website should be easy to read, user friendly and make the enquierer want to use your services. Your websites offer none of these qualities and if it was a website I stumbled across no way would I want to use that service.
I also think it is a matter of time before the search engine companies will wise up to how you've got your listings into that position and just dump it out the ratings all together.
Like I said your the one in the know not me!
Speak to anyone using my sites and they have all done business more than covering the £59 per month.
But you know best don't you!
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59 QUID a month :o
LMAO.
No don't know best, but I do have an opinion, and I won't be one of your customers. EVER.
Does AJ know you have included him in your testimonials? I didn't think he was one of your customers.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Be corrected then!
Arthur said that on this very thread!
Get with the beat.
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I know he said that, I've read it.
Does he know it is included in your testimonials?
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I know he said that, I've read it.
Does he know it is included in your testimonials?
Does it matter?
Anyway if you pick a fight be prepared to take some punches aswell as give them out.
If you can't take it don't give it!
If Arthur wants me to remove what he said I will, no problem to me.
Why do you keep trying to cause trouble, have you got nothing better to do?
And if £59 seems a lot to you, you definately need one of my websites!
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Cleaner Network Customer Testimonials
Ivan Moore, Selclene Birmingham
"From the website I have now signed up three customers. Things had been moving very quickly and I really think that the website is helping me turn the corner. I am so glad that you sent that initial letter to me." 09.02.06
Daren Beach, Beach Carpet Cleaning Kent
"Hi Peter, I agree the web site looks really good. Got a job from the first enquiry. I'm doing it Monday. Thank you." 08.02.06
Existing Customer of Beach Carpet Cleaning
"Hi darren!!! its xxx here browsing your website-nice one! it looks great-really easy, professional and makes you feel confident...you were also the first name up on my google search so great news there too!"
A & J Cleaning Services
Reference their own wesite experience. "I have been using Ad Words for few months now, and have not had a single hit from it. So from my own experience I can say that people (in Newcastle) do not use search engine to find a cleaner." 21.01.06
Peter Honour, Cleaner Network
After building www.cleaner-newcastle.co.uk on 23.01.06 "Got 2nd enquiry now in a place called Jesmond 2 bed appartment, wants weekly cleaning. Not bad after 3 days. Do you want to deal with this enquiry aswell? Peter" 30.01.06
Emerald Cleaning Bristol
"I have had a lot of Domestic enquries which has been great!! Its going really great and I am really pleased. I am totally rushed off my feet at the moment. Thanks for all the help so far." 02.03.06
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so out of 6 'testimonials' one is from AJ and is NOT a testimonial to anything, one is from yourself about nothing and one is from an unnamed person.
Struggling for something to fill the gaps ::) ?
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I know he said that, I've read it.
Does he know it is included in your testimonials?
Does it matter?
Anyway if you pick a fight be prepared to take some punches aswell as give them out.
If you can't take it don't give it!
I can take punches, you just haven't landed any yet.
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I know he said that, I've read it.
Does he know it is included in your testimonials?
Does it matter?
Anyway if you pick a fight be prepared to take some punches aswell as give them out.
If you can't take it don't give it!
I can take punches, you just haven't landed any yet.
As there are only 5 website made 5 testimonials is ok I think.
Thanks for the advertising.
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I get a weekly 'email' newsletter from 'Webpro News' and this mornings was quite interesting...............
There was an article about websites like yours and how Search Engines are soon going to be treating them as 'spam'. They will probably ban them from appearing at all.......where will this leave your customers, Mancharry?
You will have charged them for building a site that is banned from Search Engines.
Big refunds all round methinks ??
This is also interesting. It's a thread on another discussion forum (not cleaning) which discusses the same subject.
http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=61290
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I get a weekly 'email' newsletter from 'Webpro News' and this mornings was quite interesting...............
There was an article about websites like yours and how Search Engines are soon going to be treating them as 'spam'. They will probably ban them from appearing at all.......where will this leave your customers, Mancharry?
You will have charged them for building a site that is banned from Search Engines.
Big refunds all round methinks ??
Oh another negative comment trying to put me down. What a surprise.
"Probably" like the carlesberg ad....
People can cancel my sites at any time, if they are not getting results, no problem.
You see I can get results and people don't want to cancel because it helps their business. ;D
Get a life will you and go and annoy someone else!
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You may know a thing or two about search engine optimisation but you have an awful lot to learn in the area of customer or potential customer skills.
Mick
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You may know a thing or two about search engine optimisation but you have an awful lot to learn in the area of customer or potential customer skills.
Mick
these two are not my customers and never will be! They are just two negative people who have basically slagged me off for the last 2 weeks.
Speak to any of my customers and you will see what real customer service is!
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Speak to any of your customers. There are only 3 that I can make out and they have only had there sites a couple of weeks. Of the 6 sites listed 2 are yours and one is a dummy for Newcastle.
I think that in the beginning you were given a fair ride, the negative comments have only really started in the last few days, and they haven't been rude or aggressive.
I'd give up here if I were you, I don't think you'll sell any more anyway, and 2 or 3 is a pretty poor return over the last few weeks.
Anyway with a bit of luck this lot will be deleted soon as it is blatant advertising of your own product. I'm surprised its been allowed to run this long, must be for the entertainment value.
BTW, why do you hide your email address and was it you that sent me the email asking what I really thought of your sites, sorry if the answer wasn't to your liking, maybe you could use it in your testimonial section ;D
Looking forward to your reply ;D ;D
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Speak to any of your customers. There are only 3 that I can make out and they have only had there sites a couple of weeks. Of the 6 sites listed 2 are yours and one is a dummy for Newcastle.
I think that in the beginning you were given a fair ride, the negative comments have only really started in the last few days, and they haven't been rude or aggressive.
I'd give up here if I were you, I don't think you'll sell any more anyway, and 2 or 3 is a pretty poor return over the last few weeks.
Anyway with a bit of luck this lot will be deleted soon as it is blatant advertising of your own product. I'm surprised its been allowed to run this long, must be for the entertainment value.
BTW, why do you hide your email address and was it you that sent me the email asking what I really thought of your sites, sorry if the answer wasn't to your liking, maybe you could use it in your testimonial section ;D
Looking forward to your reply ;D ;D
why would I want to contact you. I don't take any notice of your opinion and wouldn't give you the courtesy of a reply direct to your email address for sure.
"i'de give up if I were you" is typical of your negative attitude to a new idea that actually works.
There are six sites made and there are six companies using them quite successfully.... that's all that matters to me :-*
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Now this is gretting ridiculous....................let's recap.....................
You say there are six sites running successfully.....................others think three....................
They are put together in the way they are to 'fool' (for want of a better word) search engines into finding them.
- but for how long? There are clear indications that Search Engines will soon treat sites like these as Spam and won't allow them at all. What do you propose to do then (i) with the sites (ii) with the customers whose money you have taken..
Yes, Garyj and I have a lot to say about this but why not?
At least we conduct our business with integrity. If you can say the same would you mind explaining to us who don't know how you will deal with a situation such as the Search Engines treating your sites as Spam?
You say in your last post that the current situation is "all that matters to me".
I suspect that the future situation will matter to those who have paid you money.
Lets see if you can give us a straightforward answer (for the benefit of those that have already paid). After all, £720 a year is quite a lot.
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I wanted to say a lot, but let me just repeat what I have already said (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=16933.20):
Mancharry, Peter, since you compared yourself with the GOD, I am not going to use your service, you can shut www.newcastle-cleaner.co.uk as soon as you wish.
However, to be fair I have to say (you may wish to take it as my testimonial) that www.newcastle-cleaner.co.uk does generate enquiries, but on another side it is a junk, which does not give my company a good image. A & J Cleaning Services is not a junk.
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Mancherry, but you do take notice of my opinion, you always reply to it, but your replies do not match up with what I write. Yesterday you said I can give it out but can't take it, you hadn't given me anything to take.
Do you read what is really written, or do you just glance over posts and decide for yourself what they say??
If you are true to your word then you won't reply, and I don't have to put up with your rubbish anymore ;D
Bye bye ;D ;D
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I wanted to say a lot, but let me just repeat what I have already said (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=16933.20):
Mancharry, Peter, since you compared yourself with the GOD, I am not going to use your service, you can shut www.newcastle-cleaner.co.uk as soon as you wish.
However, to be fair I have to say (you may wish to take it as my testimonial) that www.newcastle-cleaner.co.uk does generate enquiries, but on another side it is a junk, which does not give my company a good image. A & J Cleaning Services is not a junk.
Arthur I have refunded your months payment. I am surpried at your last comment though. You have had several very good quality enquiries from areas that you cover. Three I think over the last week . But if that is how you feel so be it. I would appreciate you not calling my website junk. It may not be as technically good as your own but at least it does the business.
Peter
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I wanted to say a lot, but let me just repeat what I have already said (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=16933.20):
Mancharry, Peter, since you compared yourself with the GOD, I am not going to use your service, you can shut www.newcastle-cleaner.co.uk as soon as you wish.
However, to be fair I have to say (you may wish to take it as my testimonial) that www.newcastle-cleaner.co.uk does generate enquiries, but on another side it is a junk, which does not give my company a good image. A & J Cleaning Services is not a junk.
Arthur your details have been removed from www.newcastle-cleaner.co.uk
and it is now available to anyone who wants it!
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Stand back and mind the rush!
Mancharry, we are not disputing the leads (in the short term) but Arthur had a very valid point. Your website is the first impression those customers get of the company and leads or no leads, you have to admit it is Junk (and I'm being as polite as this forum will allow)!
It is not the impression I would like to give.
Forget the leads for a moment (because it's not just about that), what do you REALLY think of the site itself? You can't possibly say it's good.
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Arthur I have refunded your months payment...
Peter
Just would like to confirm that one month's payment has been refunded, thx
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In reference to the testimonial to Beach Carpet Cleaning in Kent, the anonymous writer says that it is listed at number 1 on Google, but that listing is an ad-word which is nothing to do with your so called expertise on getting high search placings.
I also think it is strange that a customer of a carpet cleaning company would write and say these things, surely they might write " wow, my carpets look like new" but not wow great web site and so easy to use and its number one on Google. This testimonial also does not have a date like the others, can I suggest one? APRIL 1st ;D ;D
Bye Bye
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mancharry has deleted his account
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;D ;D ;D
RESULT
;D ;D ;D
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Yeeeeesssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Congratulations everyone, job well done.
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I would just like to say that enqireis which I have received from yell.com have a higher rate of turning into real jobs. Yell.com is very well known directory, it is working very well and delivers a very good value for money (priority listing with a link to your website cost around £30 per month).
Mancharry website had a very clear description of which areas of Newcastle we would serve, but most enquiries that we were receiving were from outside specified area. That makes me wonder whether people bothered to read what that website was saying.
I probably should not have used the word junk, describing Mancharry website, what I meant was SPAM, but it probably means the same as in PR matter any spam is a junk.
I still believe that internet is not very good place for cleaning companies to hunt for customers (I mean Newcastle upon Tyne area), however presence on the internet is very important as website is a very useful PR tool.
Kind regards,
Arthur
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lets not forget that yell.com has also a free lising service ;)
chris
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lets not forget that yell.com has also a free lising service ;)
chris
Free listing is without link to your website
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yes i know, not everyone will want a link to there website as not everyone as a website, i do not have a link although i have a site, i have the basic free listing which i get plenty of work from ;D
chris ;)
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Hi,
Just to let you know that Google are offering free web pages.
http://pages.google.com
It's fairly easy to create your own simple Web Pages. If you know how to use something like Microsoft Word, you should have no problem creating your web pages.
Don't forget that once you have created your web pages you should promote them via various online free business directories that are available.
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lets not forget that yell.com has also a free lising service ;)
chris
Free listing is without link to your website
that would depend if you company name is a website address
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Hello, Mancharry is back! still doing loads of business from the web. Employ 8 cleaners now over 100 clients and more coming every day! How you all doin???????????????????????????????????
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http://www.maidsofhonour.net/start_your_own_cleaning_business.htm
for anyone who wants to do the same!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hi
we get 3-5 jobs per day www.housebuddies.co.uk for domestic cleaning from the web but we do drop 5000 leaflets a week.
Get about 2 per week from yell.com but can be patchy though high quality leads last year I got a £600 job for the hq of the girl guides so it paid for itself straight away then did not get anything for 3 weeks?
I see the website as your online brochure people may look and research you before calling.
At my peak we got 30 calls a day now its 5 but there is alot more competition now.
Thanks
Carl
How do you get 5000 leaflets delivered weekly, do you pay a distribution company. Could I see your flyer to check if we have missed anything obvious from ours.
Thanks
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There are a lot of companies around that will deliver them for you.
Chris
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Yes I know I was ripped off twice. They just didn't deliver them, so since then we have tried to deliver them ourselves but takes too long.
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leaflets are awaste of money!!!!!!!!
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Gary J are you still in business? see Arthur no longer posting and CMS has disappeared. What a surprise.......... so negative about the web and all the benefits it has!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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hi there
we do very well off the net.
reasonable hit rate per month.
regards
martin
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I get almost all my work from the web, fully recomend it.
Chris
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How do you get much from the web?
My site is listed on all the free directories I can find plus I use google adwords & Microsoft adcenter to appear near the top of page 1 for any domestic/office cleaning searches in Kent. At present I average only1 hit/day as so few people search for their cleaner online, where am I missing all this online business?
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Gary J are you still in business? see Arthur no longer posting and CMS has disappeared. What a surprise.......... so negative about the web and all the benefits it has!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Still around and doing very well.
Wasn't anti-web, none of us were, just anti-you.
EIGHT cleaners and ONE HUNDRED clients, LMFAO, you call THAT success. Each client about 2 hours per week then, oh well, at least there is someone out there mopping up the work nobody else wants.
We all DO have websites, just didn't want one of yours as they were so bad. I know someone who bought one of your sites, is HE still around? NOPE ;D ;D ;D ;D
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If anyone has a cleaning business in manchester edinburgh or bristol and wants some enquiries for domestic cleaning I have fully functioning highly listed websites available which have already had enquiries.
They are going to waste at the moment!
I have a domestic cleaning company in Atherton and we desperately need an affordable website. However you may not want to deal with us as we are in direct competition with your other half HA! HA! If you can help please could you give us some idea of costs for keeping us at the top of all the listings,
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http://www.maidsofhonour.net/start_your_own_cleaning_business.htm
for anyone who wants to do the same!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am just working on the very same operations manual. I intended to sell the information when my website was up and running. You have beaten me to it. You seem to have alot of good ideas. No-one else seems to be selling a decent one (have seen point2point and others-rubbish). You should do well with this. Good Luck!
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suppose it differs in different citys! i get not much from the interenet but do well from directorys.
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Glad to be back winding you up again. Seems you haven't lost any of your negative attitude!
Gary J are you still in business? see Arthur no longer posting and CMS has disappeared. What a surprise.......... so negative about the web and all the benefits it has!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Still around and doing very well.
Wasn't anti-web, none of us were, just anti-you.
EIGHT cleaners and ONE HUNDRED clients, LMFAO, you call THAT success. Each client about 2 hours per week then, oh well, at least there is someone out there mopping up the work nobody else wants.
We all DO have websites, just didn't want one of yours as they were so bad. I know someone who bought one of your sites, is HE still around? NOPE ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Are you the guy that phoned me on friday?
http://www.maidsofhonour.net/start_your_own_cleaning_business.htm
for anyone who wants to do the same!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am just working on the very same operations manual. I intended to sell the information when my website was up and running. You have beaten me to it. You seem to have alot of good ideas. No-one else seems to be selling a decent one (have seen point2point and others-rubbish). You should do well with this. Good Luck!
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What city are you in?
suppose it differs in different citys! i get not much from the interenet but do well from directorys.
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Are you the guy that phoned me on friday?
http://www.maidsofhonour.net/start_your_own_cleaning_business.htm
for anyone who wants to do the same!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am just working on the very same operations manual. I intended to sell the information when my website was up and running. You have beaten me to it. You seem to have alot of good ideas. No-one else seems to be selling a decent one (have seen point2point and others-rubbish). You should do well with this. Good Luck!
No I have never phoned you I was waiting for a reply online in case you were not interested in designing and hosting a web site for us. I am a woman not a man.
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Should have guessed with a name like Myvanwi, sorry!!!
Did you say you were in Atherton?
If I make a website, I will only make one for any town, so as long as you don't want business in Bolton I'm sure I can help. Visit the 'start your own business page' and give me a ring if you want.
Are you the guy that phoned me on friday?
http://www.maidsofhonour.net/start_your_own_cleaning_business.htm
for anyone who wants to do the same!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am just working on the very same operations manual. I intended to sell the information when my website was up and running. You have beaten me to it. You seem to have alot of good ideas. No-one else seems to be selling a decent one (have seen point2point and others-rubbish). You should do well with this. Good Luck!
No I have never phoned you I was waiting for a reply online in case you were not interested in designing and hosting a web site for us. I am a woman not a man.
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Good job you're into cleaning cos your maths isn't up to much!!!!
::) ;D
Glad to be back winding you up again. Seems you haven't lost any of your negative attitude!
Gary J are you still in business? see Arthur no longer posting and CMS has disappeared. What a surprise.......... so negative about the web and all the benefits it has!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Still around and doing very well.
Wasn't anti-web, none of us were, just anti-you.
EIGHT cleaners and ONE HUNDRED clients, LMFAO, you call THAT success. Each client about 2 hours per week then, oh well, at least there is someone out there mopping up the work nobody else wants.
We all DO have websites, just didn't want one of yours as they were so bad. I know someone who bought one of your sites, is HE still around? NOPE ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Yep, I'm still thick as 8)
Go one then, do the maths for me.
Didn't expect me to be positive did you :P.
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I don't need to do any working out, all I know is that we are doing good and hope to continue to do so.
PS I am a car finance broker in my day job and have worked with numbers for over 23 years so my maths is ok ( as long as I've got a calculator to hand!!!!!) ;D
Yep, I'm still thick as 8)
Go one then, do the maths for me.
Didn't expect me to be positive did you :P.
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I have read this thread with great interest and would like to get involved. I will have to say that Mancharry is pretty darn good at selling stuff that is free. You do not have to have a spam site to get the hits from adwords or the search engine results. You can use your current page and get just as much. I came on this site hoping to get some good information exchange. In some places I see a little help going on, some I see a lot of people backing off, scared they will give up to much information and lose some of thier own business, guess I cant fault that last part much. But this whole thread has left me laughing at times and I would have to agree that Mancharry does not belong on this site. I have posted in other threads how you can get value hits through Adwords and it is free guys. I am giving you for free what I have found out in the last few months of heavy research on the internet itself on how to make it work for you. Now that is what this site is about. I did not come here to try to be sold to by someone that is not even delivering value for money.
Mancharry relates two different areas to each other that has no relation. You could have no metatags, no keywords in your html, and your description could be totally wrong and you can still make adword work. Adwords does not care about that stuff the search engines do though for page rank. I have learned all this by reading, I have a passion for it so I do it in the evenings when work is done (too much my wife says but it has paid of "so far"). Another thing that Mancharry always used was these page analysis, I found probably the exact same site and have been using it for over a month trying to optimise my page (it has only been up for about 1 1/2 months) and I will share it with you for free again it is http://www.submitexpress.com/analyzer/ . To give you great info about what to use it for, the analysis that Mancharry is running is called metatag analyser and has a button. You just type in your domain and it will check you meta tags for free. If you are wondering what other sites are using as keywords then just type in their site and it will tell you. It is not illeagal because it is part of the site and you just can not see it. If you want to know the link popularity of your site just go to the link popularity button and it will tell you how many links there are to your site or other peoples if you want, again it is not against the law it is public knowledge.
As far as adwords and getting good quality leads I have another post (I think it is in the carpet cleaning section) that has a lot of good information on it about how to get those. I have shut mine down as I am only small at the moment and I have 50000 GBP in quotes out and if all of them accept (if only I would be that lucky) I would have my hands full. If you can not find it and you are interested I will post a lead on my next post.
So what do you say should we use this forum for what it is meant for: a meaningful EXCHANGE of ideas. I will be more than glad to help "for free" on your websites if you will help me become more knowledgable about other aspects. ie.. there is a thread that talks about "builders clean tenders". I have already did my first builders clean and obviously did a pretty good job, because when I followed up with the director after the clean he said it was above expectations and would forward my name to all his project managers. To be honest I have completed my first one but I do not even know what a tender is. What does it consist of, why do I need it? kind of thing. I will look for a post in that thread because this is the wrong thread for that but I think every one gets what I am talking about. basically I will say it one more time "Lets use this forum as, I don't know, what do you say, maybe a FORUM"
Cheers
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Thats a pretty long post and I have skirted through it. You are right in a lot of what you say, you can check your own site and get info on meta tags etc for free. The problem is for most people when they get the info they don't know what to do to make their site better. Adwords is pay per click advertising so your site doesn't have to be set up correctly you just have to pay more than anyone else to get to the top! Very costly......
If you think all I want to do is sell stuff that is free anyway you are wrong. I recently had an email off a carpet cleaner in london who had paid a lot of money for a site that wasn't listed in the search engines. I reviewed his site and gave him my opinion as to what needed doing to make it better -- oh yes and I did it for free!!!!
I like you have spent many years working on the web and have a knack of getting sites listed - its not rocket science but things have to be done a certain way. If you think I should give away this knowledge for free I disagree - I have spent countless hours researching and messing around til i got it right so if someone wants the benefit of all this time, I want something back for it!
Regards
Mancharry
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I think you have missed my point, I don't think you should do anything for free if you feel that you add value to someones website. My point is that a forum is meant for an exchange of ideas. There are some places here that are for selling but the thread clearly states that. If you go back to your original post some years ago I think, you started this thread with an offer of help that eventually turned into a selling attempt.
My next point that you missed, and I understand it was a long post and should have been an article lol, is that I have not been doing this for years. I have been doing it for 2 months, before then I had no idea what a meta tag was or how to do anything in HTML, I knew what HTML stood for but that is about it. I bought my webspace in november, designed my website (with little success) and started reading on the net about how to make it listed, higher rankings, and how to make adwords work. I feel for a layman I have been very succesful. If you google office cleaning east midlands I have like the number 2 slot for SER (search engine results, you probably know this acronym I posted for others) and the number 1 slot for builders clean east midlands. I know I have work to do to get some of the more specific keywords but I am working on it and will share the info as I acquire more. I know it takes work, such as search engine submission, article posting, blogging, and directory submission. I am working on all that and will see if it works over time.
Since this is a forum I feel that it should be an exchange of ideas where we both add value to each others business. If you want to give me some free info I will take it quite gladly, here is a question that you might be able to answer. Does the BBCode that we use in blogs register as a link when used as I do in my signature the same as if I was to use HTML. See I just found out what BBCode was two nights ago, but I started reading and googling till I found out how to do my signature as a link to my website but I am not sure if I am heading in the right direction with that.
Good luck with your business anyway
Cheers
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Hi,
office cleaning east midlands you will get a good rate but in london is a bit more dificult because is a lot of companies.
What is <META name="ROBOTS" content="INDEX,FOLLOW">
Regards
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The meta tag for spiders from search engines is always "robot" and it tells them what you want them to do when they index you page. Basically the meta tag I added there is the defaullt and does not necessarily need to be added. But I did it just in case. There are I believe 3 different robot meta tags. One tells them to fully "index" you hyperlinks on your page and to "follow" those hyperlinks and keep going. This will be important if you have child pages to the parent page (home page) these are the front page jargon, if you use a different web publisher unfortunately I am not sure what they would call a child page and home page but the child pages are the ones that your home page link to, as in my site with the different types of cleans, they are the child pages to my home page. So you want the spider to index those as well, dont forget you will want to set up the meta tags for title, description, and keywords for each child page also, this will help with thier individual page rank. Another is that you can have them indexed but do not follow, of if you have broken hyperlinks on your current page or if you have a lot of link exchanges then you can request that the spider not index the hyperlinks at all. The second two options seem worthless to me but not real sure. Hope this helps. I almost sound like I know what I am talking about lol.
Cheers
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Thanks
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No idea what a BBCode is , never used a blog to get any improvement to any website I've made either
Had a look at your site - suggest you review your keywords, I have done a keyword analysis on Google and Yahoo and there were no records of any searches done last month for 'office cleaning east midlands' - you need to be more specific and incorporate the new keywords into your page content, and meta tags. If you cover 'Nottingham' and 'Derby' these words would be ideal!
Mancharry
I think you have missed my point, I don't think you should do anything for free if you feel that you add value to someones website. My point is that a forum is meant for an exchange of ideas. There are some places here that are for selling but the thread clearly states that. If you go back to your original post some years ago I think, you started this thread with an offer of help that eventually turned into a selling attempt.
My next point that you missed, and I understand it was a long post and should have been an article lol, is that I have not been doing this for years. I have been doing it for 2 months, before then I had no idea what a meta tag was or how to do anything in HTML, I knew what HTML stood for but that is about it. I bought my webspace in november, designed my website (with little success) and started reading on the net about how to make it listed, higher rankings, and how to make adwords work. I feel for a layman I have been very succesful. If you google office cleaning east midlands I have like the number 2 slot for SER (search engine results, you probably know this acronym I posted for others) and the number 1 slot for builders clean east midlands. I know I have work to do to get some of the more specific keywords but I am working on it and will share the info as I acquire more. I know it takes work, such as search engine submission, article posting, blogging, and directory submission. I am working on all that and will see if it works over time.
Since this is a forum I feel that it should be an exchange of ideas where we both add value to each others business. If you want to give me some free info I will take it quite gladly, here is a question that you might be able to answer. Does the BBCode that we use in blogs register as a link when used as I do in my signature the same as if I was to use HTML. See I just found out what BBCode was two nights ago, but I started reading and googling till I found out how to do my signature as a link to my website but I am not sure if I am heading in the right direction with that.
Good luck with your business anyway
Cheers
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Both Nottingham and Derby are in the text of my page. I understand about the keyword meta tags but from my understanding it is not as important and you will not be penalised as long as the keywords are not spammed. I know I have about a 58% key word relevance. I think part of the problem is that I use cleaning in the meta tags more than in the page. I use like Office cleaning, builders cleans, pub cleaning, and so forth and probably should use the word clean, cleans, cleaning, and then idividiuals like office, pub, and so forth. I am just going to have to wait for the nottingham office cleaning to improve, I am doing what I need to do to improve PR and I know that the search on MSN and Yahoo for East Midlands is not as popular but it was a starting point. As my PR improves and I have the keywords in there then perhaps I will go up in those ranks. Just time I hope.
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time has nothing to do with it!
1. you need 100% title/keyword/description relevance with the right keywords
2. don't bother with words like clean and cleans you need to concentrate on cleaner , cleaners and cleaning.
3. Spamming words is only important in your meta tags not on the text on your page
4. You also only have 4 links into your site from other websites - search engines would not see your site as important because they think it is not popular on the web.
You can get your site submitted for free all over the show but use a dump email address because you will get loads of spam emails.
Mancharry
Both Nottingham and Derby are in the text of my page. I understand about the keyword meta tags but from my understanding it is not as important and you will not be penalised as long as the keywords are not spammed. I know I have about a 58% key word relevance. I think part of the problem is that I use cleaning in the meta tags more than in the page. I use like Office cleaning, builders cleans, pub cleaning, and so forth and probably should use the word clean, cleans, cleaning, and then idividiuals like office, pub, and so forth. I am just going to have to wait for the nottingham office cleaning to improve, I am doing what I need to do to improve PR and I know that the search on MSN and Yahoo for East Midlands is not as popular but it was a starting point. As my PR improves and I have the keywords in there then perhaps I will go up in those ranks. Just time I hope.
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I just started listing to directories about 3 weeks ago. Some of them take up to six weeks (the ones with any PR) to get you listed. That is the time that I am talking about. Google says 6 weeks to 3 months. I have articles submitted and am just now starting to use forums. So as far as I can see there is only time left. I will take a look at the key words though thanks
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I just googled "office cleaner" no city or anything, pretty hard keyword to achieve success. The page that has number one is 100% title, 81% discription, and 77% keyword relevancy. I have taken you advice and at least matched it now but having 100% on all I do not think is absolutely necessary. I hope my links start showing soon though because we are both right there. Links are important. I started with links that are relevant with high PR, so when they come in I think I should improve. I dont think I requested links from anything less than PR3 although I have done some on less but that was usually a request from them. But from what I am reading. A PR 6 will get scanned about once a week. PR5 about Once every 9-5 days, and PR 4 about once a month, then it goes down from there. It is hard to get listed quickly free with High PR never the less quickly. The articles have helped and they are starting to show up but the rest will have to wait for them dang spiders lol.
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As you don't seem to take my subtle hints, here is the meta analysis of the highest listed company (not directory) for the search term 'office cleaning nottingham':
100% relevance is achievable and if you do achieve it you will be highly listed!
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Title relevancy to page content is excellent.
The Title relevancy to page content is 100%.
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Description: Description meta tag contains no errors.
This tag contains 84 characters.
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Description relevancy to page content is excellent.
The Description relevancy to page content is 100%.
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Keywords: Keywords meta tag contains no errors.
This tag contains 14 keywords and 216 characters.
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Keyword relevancy to page content is very good.
The keywords relevancy to page content is 93%.
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Robots: The Robots meta tag contains no errors.
This tag contains 18 characters.
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Author: Found no author meta tag.
This tag is not really required but can help for your (company) name recognizing.
I just googled "office cleaner" no city or anything, pretty hard keyword to achieve success. The page that has number one is 100% title, 81% discription, and 77% keyword relevancy. I have taken you advice and at least matched it now but having 100% on all I do not think is absolutely necessary. I hope my links start showing soon though because we are both right there. Links are important. I started with links that are relevant with high PR, so when they come in I think I should improve. I dont think I requested links from anything less than PR3 although I have done some on less but that was usually a request from them. But from what I am reading. A PR 6 will get scanned about once a week. PR5 about Once every 9-5 days, and PR 4 about once a month, then it goes down from there. It is hard to get listed quickly free with High PR never the less quickly. The articles have helped and they are starting to show up but the rest will have to wait for them dang spiders lol.
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Again you have not taken mine. Keyword relevancy is 93% just barely above mine now. I took the advice and revised my key words and if you would not have jumped the gun and checked I now have a 88% key word relevancy. I think 100% on the other two which I alredy had. I do know what you are talking about but your post just proves I was right. 100% is not imparitive. Thanks for the help. Go back and read our posts and you will see. And again it took me 3 minutes to update so no big deal.
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I am talking about the keywords when I say you miss my subtle hints
not 'office cleaner' but 'office cleaning nottingham' which is very specific to your business and area.
you need to be 100% with these keywords (aswell as others which you need to research)
Again you have not taken mine. Keyword relevancy is 93% just barely above mine now. I took the advice and revised my key words and if you would not have jumped the gun and checked I now have a 88% key word relevancy. I think 100% on the other two which I alredy had. I do know what you are talking about but your post just proves I was right. 100% is not imparitive. Thanks for the help. Go back and read our posts and you will see. And again it took me 3 minutes to update so no big deal.
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Did you check my meta tags? I have them in there, those have always been there. did a page snoop on them also and they do not have "office cleaning nottingham" as a single keyword either, they have all the words in there just as I have. See you are operating on half information and now you are really not impressing me. You can not just run the analyser, run the snooper. It will tell you exactly what keywords people are using. Cheers
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I'm not impressing you? Not trying to.
My sites are all on page 1 of Google and that's good enough for me.
Good luck with your efforts I'll keep my advice to myself from now on.
Regards
Mancharry
Did you check my meta tags? I have them in there, those have always been there. did a page snoop on them also and they do not have "office cleaning nottingham" as a single keyword either, they have all the words in there just as I have. See you are operating on half information and now you are really not impressing me. You can not just run the analyser, run the snooper. It will tell you exactly what keywords people are using. Cheers
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Hi,
I really enjoy this post ,
where can you check how many links are linked to your webpage.
whats is high PR, how can you find if they are high PR.
Thanks a lot boys.
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if you type into yahoo search link:yourdomain.est and it will tell you what links are out there for your page. Alternatively if you use the tool I put in an earlier post, http://www.submitexpress.com/analyzer/ it will check the major search engines for you for free. You will need to hit the link popularity button. Also type in both the www.domain.ext and just domain.ext it will give you two different results depending on how you list your site in directories. PR (Page Rank) is a word developed by google but is now commonly accepted by all search engines they just do it in a different way. Page rank is from 0-10 with the best being highest. There is a lot of factors that go into PR and they range from number of links, Quality links (these are links that are relevant to your page), key words, loading time, description, title and so forth. I think some of the page rank pretty arbitrary but most of it not. I think the google home page is the only PR 10. If a cleaning company could get to 2 from what I am seeing it would be good. If you download the google toolbar it has an area for PR and will display on all pages you are on. I think you have to turn it on though. I think that answers all your questions, if you have more let me know if I can help.
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Just to hijack this thread for a while ...
Gilbert, we are based in the East Midlands, although we do mainly domestic cleaning. We are based in Eastwood and Borrowash. Where are you?
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Mansfield Woodhouse but have contracts in Chesterfield, Nottingham, Farndon (hopefully that one is bid) and a few other spots, hoping to grow. Forgive me about not knowing where some places are, but if you are interested in a lead in Sheffield let me know as I have a guy there that I do office cleaning for and wants me to do his house, he said it was pretty big, but I do no domestic cleaning. If it works out to a steady contract maybe you could slip me a few quid for it, if not oh well.
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Hi Gilbert,
Sheffield is a bit out of the way for us, though I am very close to M1 junction 27, so if it's South Sheffield, I may be interested - especially any one off full cleans.
Maybe we should keep in touch in case we get offered work in each others areas. I'll PM you shortly.
ALAN.
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Gilbert,
Only just realised you can't send PMs on this forum. I have sent you a message via the contact page on your website.
ALAN.
PS - you can have your thread back now !!!
:)
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Will defintely keep you in mind. I like your site. Look forward to hearing from you and I am about through with this thread anyway so if you want you can have it lol.
Gilbert
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if you type into yahoo search link:yourdomain.est and it will tell you what links are out there for your page. Alternatively if you use the tool I put in an earlier post, http://www.submitexpress.com/analyzer/ it will check the major search engines for you for free. You will need to hit the link popularity button. Also type in both the www.domain.ext and just domain.ext it will give you two different results depending on how you list your site in directories. PR (Page Rank) is a word developed by google but is now commonly accepted by all search engines they just do it in a different way. Page rank is from 0-10 with the best being highest. There is a lot of factors that go into PR and they range from number of links, Quality links (these are links that are relevant to your page), key words, loading time, description, title and so forth. I think some of the page rank pretty arbitrary but most of it not. I think the google home page is the only PR 10. If a cleaning company could get to 2 from what I am seeing it would be good. If you download the google toolbar it has an area for PR and will display on all pages you are on. I think you have to turn it on though. I think that answers all your questions, if you have more let me know if I can help.
Thanks a lot mate.
Regards
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Do you know how often google revise the website?
Regards
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With the new alogorithims it is supposed to be a continuous but it will not reflect on the page rank bar until google updates and from what I understand that is about every three months. I am not sure how accurate this information is, I just remember reading something about it.
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Algorythms, pr ranking etc etc you sound like an expert!
I may come to you for advice.......not
Ps No one with a PR ranking which is higher than your i.e. 2, 3, 5, 6, 8 would be unwise to link to your site as this will reduce their ranking.
Mancharry
With the new alogorithims it is supposed to be a continuous but it will not reflect on the page rank bar until google updates and from what I understand that is about every three months. I am not sure how accurate this information is, I just remember reading something about it.
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I do enjooooooy talking to you so much. I currently have 5 links, a couple are self generated 2 are from PR 4 and one is PR 5. I have a 2 x PR 6 that will be added once they are crawled. That is why I question what you say a lot of the time it is because you dont check and give cock eyed advice. I aslo have quite a few others in the works that will probably take a litlle longer as they are lower PR and will probably take a while to be crawled, I did the simple thing and before you make some off the wall post, I know they are directories but as in your post I want the quality links that will give me a good PR and position, it takes time and sometimes up to 6 months, but my site will not be a flash in the pan, that gets noticed for a few months until someone comes along and does it right. Now put in your post, quality v. quantity with links. Go ahead I know that you get the quantity, but to get the quality where you last you have to be patient. I read a great article on your method the other day and I could have sworn it described you to a tee, but not sure. This will be my last post to you as I have decided you are a waste of my time. Cheers
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Maybe thats why i am No1 on page 1 of Google and you are not anywhere to be found!
I rest my case.
Results not fancy talk about page rank and algothingies
I didn't pay £15000 for a franchise and get nowhere
I don't talk the talk, I walk the walk GILBERT
C U on page 136 of Google!
I do enjooooooy talking to you so much. I currently have 5 links, a couple are self generated 2 are from PR 4 and one is PR 5. I have a 2 x PR 6 that will be added once they are crawled. That is why I question what you say a lot of the time it is because you dont check and give cock eyed advice. I aslo have quite a few others in the works that will probably take a litlle longer as they are lower PR and will probably take a while to be crawled, I did the simple thing and before you make some off the wall post, I know they are directories but as in your post I want the quality links that will give me a good PR and position, it takes time and sometimes up to 6 months, but my site will not be a flash in the pan, that gets noticed for a few months until someone comes along and does it right. Now put in your post, quality v. quantity with links. Go ahead I know that you get the quantity, but to get the quality where you last you have to be patient. I read a great article on your method the other day and I could have sworn it described you to a tee, but not sure. This will be my last post to you as I have decided you are a waste of my time. Cheers
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PS is 4 years at NO 1 spot in Google a good sign you have succeeded?
I've been No 1 for that long. Does that count in your algothingy,PR rated books?
Maybe thats why i am No1 on page 1 of Google and you are not anywhere to be found!
I rest my case.
Results not fancy talk about page rank and algothingies
I didn't pay £15000 for a franchise and get nowhere
I don't talk the talk, I walk the walk GILBERT
C U on page 136 of Google!
I do enjooooooy talking to you so much. I currently have 5 links, a couple are self generated 2 are from PR 4 and one is PR 5. I have a 2 x PR 6 that will be added once they are crawled. That is why I question what you say a lot of the time it is because you dont check and give cock eyed advice. I aslo have quite a few others in the works that will probably take a litlle longer as they are lower PR and will probably take a while to be crawled, I did the simple thing and before you make some off the wall post, I know they are directories but as in your post I want the quality links that will give me a good PR and position, it takes time and sometimes up to 6 months, but my site will not be a flash in the pan, that gets noticed for a few months until someone comes along and does it right. Now put in your post, quality v. quantity with links. Go ahead I know that you get the quantity, but to get the quality where you last you have to be patient. I read a great article on your method the other day and I could have sworn it described you to a tee, but not sure. This will be my last post to you as I have decided you are a waste of my time. Cheers
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PPS being No 1 means that I have never paid for and delivered one single leaflet through anybody door for them to throw in the bin. We have been fully booked after 30 days of trading and are still fully booked now even with 9 cleaners working for us. I don't have to come on clean it up and ask for tips or referrals because I don't need them.
You, on the other hand do, and thats why you don't like me and the things I advise.
Your loss not mine!
PS is 4 years at NO 1 spot in Google a good sign you have succeeded?
I've been No 1 for that long. Does that count in your algothingy,PR rated books?
Maybe thats why i am No1 on page 1 of Google and you are not anywhere to be found!
I rest my case.
Results not fancy talk about page rank and algothingies
I didn't pay £15000 for a franchise and get nowhere
I don't talk the talk, I walk the walk GILBERT
C U on page 136 of Google!
I do enjooooooy talking to you so much. I currently have 5 links, a couple are self generated 2 are from PR 4 and one is PR 5. I have a 2 x PR 6 that will be added once they are crawled. That is why I question what you say a lot of the time it is because you dont check and give cock eyed advice. I aslo have quite a few others in the works that will probably take a litlle longer as they are lower PR and will probably take a while to be crawled, I did the simple thing and before you make some off the wall post, I know they are directories but as in your post I want the quality links that will give me a good PR and position, it takes time and sometimes up to 6 months, but my site will not be a flash in the pan, that gets noticed for a few months until someone comes along and does it right. Now put in your post, quality v. quantity with links. Go ahead I know that you get the quantity, but to get the quality where you last you have to be patient. I read a great article on your method the other day and I could have sworn it described you to a tee, but not sure. This will be my last post to you as I have decided you are a waste of my time. Cheers
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Ok refer to earlier post c ya
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Ok refer to the fact that
1. you have bought a franchise for £15000 at least and can't make your business work
2. you are called Gilbert
3. you know a lot about what you have read
4. you have no idea of how to implement what you have read
5. I give you advise and you insult me
6. Is it any wonder you have FAILED
Refer to previous posts if you want but,YOU ARE NOWHERE, I could get you to No 1 but, HEY you know best!!!!!
Mancharry
Ok refer to earlier post c ya
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Will you stop if I just say you are good? I am in awe, 9 cleaners after 4 years wow. I have 3 after 3 months. So if I go at the same rate as you I will have to start giving business away and sacking the cleaners. Look, seriously I am sorry if I offended you and I thought you were done with this thread as you had not posted in so long. You can have your thread back now and as I said I am sorry if I upset you. Wish you luck.
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What a laugh this thread is.
People who are failing, who are looking for ideas, when you give ideas to them, they tell you you are wrong and that you are just trying to push a sales campaign. Let me tell you all , I don't care if you are doing well or not, all I can tell you is how I have done well. Usually, if you copy how someone has done well, you will do well also. Why are there so many doubters, who talks about what they have heard or what somebody told them, when someone who has done it tells them what to do to succeed?
It's not hard to succeed, it's just a good idea not to be called Gilbert!
If you want no nonsense no algorhymic-thingy advice without PR rankings etc
get in touch!
Mancharry
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"you are not impressing me" is a little hint as to how you first started to make me want to annoy you
Especially when you are nowhere in the search engines and I am No 1
Will you stop if I just say you are good? I am in awe, 9 cleaners after 4 years wow. I have 3 after 3 months. So if I go at the same rate as you I will have to start giving business away and sacking the cleaners. Look, seriously I am sorry if I offended you and I thought you were done with this thread as you had not posted in so long. You can have your thread back now and as I said I am sorry if I upset you. Wish you luck.
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oh one last thing.
1. My name is Gilbert and it has to be better than Man Cherry
2. I negotiated a good deal on my franchise
3. You are right I have learned a lot, especially not to deal with people who can not justify there fees, and double on the ones who garauntee slots on google
4. I might fail and I might not. I am quite satisified with my progress I will grow and if I dont it will not be because I did not accept some of your advise.
Now you can have your SALES thread back
Cheers
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Gilbert have you not noticed that people on chat rooms don't use their real names?
Mon Cherie
oh one last thing.
1. My name is Gilbert and it has to be better than Man Cherry
2. I negotiated a good deal on my franchise
3. You are right I have learned a lot, especially not to deal with people who can not justify there fees, and double on the ones who garauntee slots on google
4. I might fail and I might not. I am quite satisified with my progress I will grow and if I dont it will not be because I did not accept some of your advise.
Now you can have your SALES thread back
Cheers
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Oh is this a chat room, sorry thought it was a forum
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Alright, let explain what I read and what I understand. There are several things that get you DElisted from the search engines. Now I do check on things before I talk, unlike certain cherries that I will not mention. now lets talk about what I checked and if it is a delisting offense. I found a site I will not mention in the forum that had over 600 links and it is getting very good position in the search engines. Now I ran two link popularities on it. One tells me how many links that each of the major search engines thinks it has and the other tells me exactly who those links belong to. Now I thought over 600 links was very impressive and thought I might have to eat my words, but then I ran the second link popularity then I happen to notice (hard to miss actually) that 585 links came from one (I really have to repeat that) one directory. Now like you have noticed I do read a lot and if google finds out that page will be delisted. I am not sure if the owner of that unmentioned page realises that they are listed as performing Dry Cleaning in Scotland or not but I dont think they actually do that. Now I also found 3 ghost pages (if you are not sure what a ghost page is, please find out and do a search). Only one ghost page is enough to get you delisted by google, msn, or yahoo if they find out. Oh and another 14 links are just self generated from child pages.
So, what do you think, have I learned enough. I could be wrong and correct me if I am, but if I am not mistaken UK Cleaning Directory does not automatically list people in Scotland if they do not request it.
Now if any of my information is wrong please let me know but it does not look good and that is why I am hesitant to take advice. If you can tell me how this happens I appologise.
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hi there
deary me, thats a hard going few pages.
mancharry, wht is your website address please.
lets be honest about this what works for one company might not work for another, its the same with the web.
people have said to me that google adwords is a waste of money,
for me it isnt, if youve got a flooded property and my name comes up, people dont care where it is top, left, right wherever, what they do want though is professional service, and a quick response.
re websites,
you can get to carried away with meta tags etc, google dont use them now !!!!
and if you make your website friendly for one search engine you may make yourself unfriendly to other search engines, you need to create a happy medium
anyway interesting chat people.
regards
martin
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Hey Martin,
I would have to agree about the adwords, I am an advocate, took me a bit to learn how to use it properly, and I bet I can learn more, but I did get out of it what I was looking for.
Read your site about the flood of the schools, that was an impressive perfomance how many man hours did it take to get that cleaned up. Was the photography for the school and insurance your idea or was it requested by the school. Any way like I said quite impressive and to be able to win over a school district is quite an achievement.
Cheers
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hi there
we photograph most if not all of flood work, for our records and for any other person that requires it, when we provide out reporting to some clients we have to produce photographs as there are insurance implications as to cause of flood and liability.
loss adjusters find the reporting a useful tool .
re man hours on that particular job i think it was about 70 hours, on a rolling shift pattern.
we have a large mailshot leaving this week, targetted to achieve more bluechip clients. dont get me wrong larger clients arent always FABULOUS they tend to stretch payment , and that in itself provides cashflow problems
regards
martin
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re websites,
you can get to carried away with meta tags etc, google dont use them now !!!!
Martin, do you mean that google bot take no notice of meta tags? If so how do you know?
Arthur
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Art here is a good article about meta tags and it talks about google and meta tags also.
http://www.webmarketingnow.com/tips/meta-tags-uncovered.html
It seems that there are a couple of "google meta tags" but they have nothing to do with PR. Goggle will use your description meta tag in the search results, other than that it seems that is it. Martin was on the button.
Cheers
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Gilbert thanks for the link. Interesting reading
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just started pressure washing as well as doing window cleaning
was thinking of flyers or local rag
or would i do better investing in a web site
what would you say gives the best return for your money
would like to do them all but funds are low can only afford to do one at the moment
cheers alan
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Easy to check your site go to: http://www.freewebsubmission.com/web-page-analyzer.html enter your details and when you view your report you can then change your site as necessary, keep rechecking until happy.
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Just broken my own personal best!! New Website uploaded friday 5pm --- on first page of Google by Sunday 11 AM ---- just over of 36 hours. Not a page rank or algorythm ianywhere to be seen!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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aint done too much from website, need to look into it more.