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Another corona question
« on: March 23, 2020, 04:43:53 pm »
If I am to believe the advice from 111 telephone NHS, then my wive, kids n inlaw have all had this virus and thankfully they seem to be over the worse of it now. Also pleased nearing the end of 14 days and I seem to be 100 un affected.

My question.  If ones have supposedly had the virus and come through the other end OK.  Can we still run the chance of passing it on if we come into contact again with it or would our immune system start to attack it straight away.  Would we still need to follow the protocol for social distancing etc etc or could we simply be carriers of it and still need to be concerned
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Re: Another corona question
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2020, 04:46:24 pm »
If I am to believe the advice from 111 telephone NHS, then my wive, kids n inlaw have all had this virus and thankfully they seem to be over the worse of it now. Also pleased nearing the end of 14 days and I seem to be 100 un affected.

My question.  If ones have supposedly had the virus and come through the other end OK.  Can we still run the chance of passing it on if we come into contact again with it or would our immune system start to attack it straight away.  Would we still need to follow the protocol for social distancing etc etc or could we simply be carriers of it and still need to be concerned

Ones should probably seek medical advice rather than hearsay off of ones on the internet.
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Re: Another corona question
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2020, 04:47:02 pm »
one should ask a doctor and not a bunch of window cleaners.
*beat me to it soups

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Re: Another corona question
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2020, 04:52:25 pm »
Have you tried getting hold of a doctor to ask? You cant just walk into one at the moment or atleast here anyway.
2nd I have posted the same question on the NHS coronavirus Doncaster page but obviously theybare waayy too busy to be on favebook answering questions.
Unless im looking wrong, the government pages dont seem to answer the question other than stating how long you should self isolate for and is not clear apart from sweeping everyone with the same directions.
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2020, 05:00:50 pm »
But also your just guessing  they've had it from someone on the end of the phone, unless they have been tested then you'll never know for sure.
There is a little something here https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/16/the-big-question-over-coronavirus-can-a-person-get-it-twice

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Re: Another corona question
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2020, 05:02:31 pm »
Why is one asking a bunch of window cleaners medical advice?

Is one a dipstick?

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Re: Another corona question
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2020, 05:04:12 pm »
Boris' medical adviser bloke mentioned a test that would show if you have had it as opposed to if you have it. No word on it yet.

I'd err on the side of caution if ones were me.
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Re: Another corona question
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2020, 05:06:01 pm »
If I am to believe the advice from 111 telephone NHS,
Try ones, ones, ones instead.
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Re: Another corona question
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2020, 05:08:49 pm »
If I am to believe the advice from 111 telephone NHS,
Try ones, ones, ones instead.
;D ;D

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Re: Another corona question
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2020, 05:22:51 pm »
When did you start isolating.
You was out working last Wednesday seen your van just past Conisborough on the way into Doncaster
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Re: Another corona question
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2020, 05:29:30 pm »
Why is one asking a bunch of window cleaners medical advice?

Is one a dipstick?

Because there seems to be a lot on here paranoid or anxious about all the uncertaintity and may have read or come across some info which they could share.   
Yet clearly mistaken.

The article P1w1 highlighted is one article I recall being highlighted when it happened in china and yet nothing more has been said about it, as far as Im aware.

Yet if in an household and a person shows signs, then they have to self isolate for 7 days whilst everyone else is 14.  Therefore provided theybare well after 7 days, they can venture out again. Yet no indication if they are save from contracting it again or if they could catch and still pass it on whilst being immune.  Therefore if a total lock down occurs, would all the many who have successfully survived still have to follow this as well, when clearly they wont catch it again. Unless they can catch it again
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Re: Another corona question
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2020, 05:37:27 pm »
If I am to believe the advice from 111 telephone NHS, then my wive, kids n inlaw have all had this virus and thankfully they seem to be over the worse of it now. Also pleased nearing the end of 14 days and I seem to be 100 un affected.

My question.  If ones have supposedly had the virus and come through the other end OK.  Can we still run the chance of passing it on if we come into contact again with it or would our immune system start to attack it straight away.  Would we still need to follow the protocol for social distancing etc etc or could we simply be carriers of it and still need to be concerned
I am guessing that they must have shown symptoms for you to feel the need to phone the 111 NHS advice line?  If so why haven’t you been self isolating?

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Re: Another corona question
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2020, 05:46:59 pm »
When did you start isolating.
You was out working last Wednesday seen your van just past Conisborough on the way into Doncaster

Wasnt me" as the song goes. I dont work anywhere near conisborough.

If I am to believe the advice from 111 telephone NHS, then my wive, kids n inlaw have all had this virus and thankfully they seem to be over the worse of it now. Also pleased nearing the end of 14 days and I seem to be 100 un affected.

My question.  If ones have supposedly had the virus and come through the other end OK.  Can we still run the chance of passing it on if we come into contact again with it or would our immune system start to attack it straight away.  Would we still need to follow the protocol for social distancing etc etc or could we simply be carriers of it and still need to be concerned
I am guessing that they must have shown symptoms for you to feel the need to phone the 111 NHS advice line?  If so why haven’t you been self isolating?

Who said I havent been self isolating?   Ive been talking/posting on here quite abit about all the ones in family who are poorly and about the work i havent done since last month and how im hoping bigger jobs at the end of march/early april dont cancel so I can get some money in 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Hence my questions about afterwards, is my family save if they have already had it as they showed all the symptoms. Dont go on about the test because you know they dont test you unless you are high risk or your symptoms worsen.

So when i do go back to work, i will be doing my normal hygiene which is keeping hands clean etc etc anyway but do i still need to be on high alert or can i totally relax knowing that my family is ok. Again obviously aware of possibility of just being a carrier, hence my question
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« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2020, 05:57:02 pm »
When did you start isolating.
You was out working last Wednesday seen your van just past Conisborough on the way into Doncaster

Wasnt me" as the song goes. I dont work anywhere near conisborough.

If I am to believe the advice from 111 telephone NHS, then my wive, kids n inlaw have all had this virus and thankfully they seem to be over the worse of it now. Also pleased nearing the end of 14 days and I seem to be 100 un affected.

My question.  If ones have supposedly had the virus and come through the other end OK.  Can we still run the chance of passing it on if we come into contact again with it or would our immune system start to attack it straight away.  Would we still need to follow the protocol for social distancing etc etc or could we simply be carriers of it and still need to be concerned
I am guessing that they must have shown symptoms for you to feel the need to phone the 111 NHS advice line?  If so why haven’t you been self isolating?

Who said I havent been self isolating?   Ive been talking/posting on here quite abit about all the ones in family who are poorly and about the work i havent done since last month and how im hoping bigger jobs at the end of march/early april dont cancel so I can get some money in 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Hence my questions about afterwards, is my family save if they have already had it as they showed all the symptoms. Dont go on about the test because you know they dont test you unless you are high risk or your symptoms worsen.

So when i do go back to work, i will be doing my normal hygiene which is keeping hands clean etc etc anyway but do i still need to be on high alert or can i totally relax knowing that my family is ok. Again obviously aware of possibility of just being a carrier, hence my question
Nathan stop tripping yourself up! You posted on March 20th, yes 3 days ago, that you’re working half days because of your wife’s illness🤔

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Re: Another corona question
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2020, 06:15:34 pm »
Ones may not have had the virus at all but merely a cough and a cold as is normal for ones at this time of year. If you didn’t get the virus then I suggest you put yourself up for medical research immediately and save the planet!
Nathan, when your customers hear the whole family has had or still has the virus I would think ones business will be over for a while. Are there any confirmed cases at your hospital?

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Re: Another corona question
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2020, 06:42:26 pm »
Oh come off it Nathan. There’s zero chance of you being isolated for 14 days and not telling ones on here about it over and over.

If there’s anyone In your family showing symptoms I’d suggest you really do the right thing.
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Re: Another corona question
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2020, 06:45:10 pm »
Why is one asking a bunch of window cleaners medical advice?

Is one a dipstick?

Because there seems to be a lot on here paranoid or anxious about all the uncertaintity and may have read or come across some info which they could share.   
Yet clearly mistaken.

The article P1w1 highlighted is one article I recall being highlighted when it happened in china and yet nothing more has been said about it, as far as Im aware.

Yet if in an household and a person shows signs, then they have to self isolate for 7 days whilst everyone else is 14.  Therefore provided theybare well after 7 days, they can venture out again. Yet no indication if they are save from contracting it again or if they could catch and still pass it on whilst being immune.  Therefore if a total lock down occurs, would all the many who have successfully survived still have to follow this as well, when clearly they wont catch it again. Unless they can catch it again

I think you have said before you’re a Jw? Only they use weird language like “ones”.

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Re: Another corona question
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2020, 07:10:36 pm »
Nathan, you are asking a question no one knows the answer, the virus has not been around long enough to know that once you have had it you can't be reinfected, that is usually the case as we usually build up an imunity but Covid 19 is a noval virus which means it is a new unique virus and as such there has to be uncertainty about how it will react long term.
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Re: Another corona question
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2020, 09:03:01 pm »
Do you still have a solar panel on your van
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Re: Another corona question
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2020, 09:08:24 pm »
When did you start isolating.
You was out working last Wednesday seen your van just past Conisborough on the way into Doncaster

Wasnt me" as the song goes. I dont work anywhere near conisborough.

If I am to believe the advice from 111 telephone NHS, then my wive, kids n inlaw have all had this virus and thankfully they seem to be over the worse of it now. Also pleased nearing the end of 14 days and I seem to be 100 un affected.

My question.  If ones have supposedly had the virus and come through the other end OK.  Can we still run the chance of passing it on if we come into contact again with it or would our immune system start to attack it straight away.  Would we still need to follow the protocol for social distancing etc etc or could we simply be carriers of it and still need to be concerned
I am guessing that they must have shown symptoms for you to feel the need to phone the 111 NHS advice line?  If so why haven’t you been self isolating?

Who said I havent been self isolating?   Ive been talking/posting on here quite abit about all the ones in family who are poorly and about the work i havent done since last month and how im hoping bigger jobs at the end of march/early april dont cancel so I can get some money in 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Hence my questions about afterwards, is my family save if they have already had it as they showed all the symptoms. Dont go on about the test because you know they dont test you unless you are high risk or your symptoms worsen.

So when i do go back to work, i will be doing my normal hygiene which is keeping hands clean etc etc anyway but do i still need to be on high alert or can i totally relax knowing that my family is ok. Again obviously aware of possibility of just being a carrier, hence my question
Nathan stop tripping yourself up! You posted on March 20th, yes 3 days ago, that you’re working half days because of your wife’s illness🤔

Yes because my wife has been ill for over 2 years, but particularly worse since last year. So for a long time i have been doing half days etc....
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Re: Another corona question
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2020, 09:14:21 pm »
How can you have been in self isolation for 14 days if you were working 3 days ago

nathankaye

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Re: Another corona question
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2020, 09:17:30 pm »
Ones may not have had the virus at all but merely a cough and a cold as is normal for ones at this time of year. If you didn’t get the virus then I suggest you put yourself up for medical research immediately and save the planet!
Nathan, when your customers hear the whole family has had or still has the virus I would think ones business will be over for a while. Are there any confirmed cases at your hospital?

Sadly a person has died today in doncaster hospital due to it.
Ive been very careful not to announce it on here, but look through my back posts and see, i havent been at work for short while now and i have been posting a little more during the day than lol my usual.     

Children are the least to worry about with this virus as they mostly only come down with cold like symptoms and yes this is also usual at this time of year.  However adults have the main symptoms of a new continuous cough, sore throat and flu like symptoms etc. 


Do you still have a solar panel on your van

Yes, with huge signs on the sides of the van and the rear.  Lol, I also know where my work is and its no where near connisbrough
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Re: Another corona question
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2020, 09:19:18 pm »
Was your van it was Warmsworth
Solar panel green hose coming out the back and  small nk services sign on it.
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Re: Another corona question
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2020, 11:56:16 pm »
When did you start isolating.
You was out working last Wednesday seen your van just past Conisborough on the way into Doncaster

Wasnt me" as the song goes. I dont work anywhere near conisborough.

If I am to believe the advice from 111 telephone NHS, then my wive, kids n inlaw have all had this virus and thankfully they seem to be over the worse of it now. Also pleased nearing the end of 14 days and I seem to be 100 un affected.

My question.  If ones have supposedly had the virus and come through the other end OK.  Can we still run the chance of passing it on if we come into contact again with it or would our immune system start to attack it straight away.  Would we still need to follow the protocol for social distancing etc etc or could we simply be carriers of it and still need to be concerned
I am guessing that they must have shown symptoms for you to feel the need to phone the 111 NHS advice line?  If so why haven’t you been self isolating?

Who said I havent been self isolating?   Ive been talking/posting on here quite abit about all the ones in family who are poorly and about the work i havent done since last month and how im hoping bigger jobs at the end of march/early april dont cancel so I can get some money in 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Hence my questions about afterwards, is my family save if they have already had it as they showed all the symptoms. Dont go on about the test because you know they dont test you unless you are high risk or your symptoms worsen.

So when i do go back to work, i will be doing my normal hygiene which is keeping hands clean etc etc anyway but do i still need to be on high alert or can i totally relax knowing that my family is ok. Again obviously aware of possibility of just being a carrier, hence my question
Nathan stop tripping yourself up! You posted on March 20th, yes 3 days ago, that you’re working half days because of your wife’s illness🤔

Yes because my wife has been ill for over 2 years, but particularly worse since last year. So for a long time i have been doing half days etc....
Nathan I’m not going to argue with you. Why don’t you go over your posts from March 18th until today. You have clearly contradicted yourself, you said today that members of your family had symptoms but are past the worst of it, you also said that you are nearing 14 days of self isolation ( even tho there was no mention of this at any time these last 2 weeks in all of your posts )and you are 100% ok, yet on March the 20th , I’ll say it again, only 3 days ago , you posted that you are working half days. So this totally contradicts that you are in self isolation......Can you see the confusion now?

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Re: Another corona question
« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2020, 12:17:19 am »
Nope i cant see the contradictions.
Do you know how long a person without underlying problems will have the virus for??
I also know when my kids became ill and we removed them from school and I also know when my wife took ill with the virus compared to her other illnesses.
You can also see on my facebook page if you would like to check out how long i have been working half days and part days etc.   As you know i send text messages out to customers to leave gates open. Sadly i dont work the full daybas i expect because my wifes condition can change frequently. I normally text the customers whose house I did not get to and state I have been called away from work and sadly not made it to theres and will be the day after instead.      There is only so many times I can get away with that without giving a  better understanding, because YES it happens alot.  Thankfully a little less now, where sometimes ive been called away as my daughter my have self harmed a little too much as well, but i dont broadcast that to my customers, sue me!  Lol.

So yes, i mention i work half days at time and i have mentioned that i have been selling some work and swapping quantity for less but high paying work.   If you join the dots without being biased, you will see the overall picture of how rubbish it is to run your own business with a  now a long suffering poorly wife who means everything to you and juggle three kids with it all isnt easy.
(Yes i know many on here also have various illnesses and difficulties and im not trying to sound worse than others)
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Re: Another corona question
« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2020, 12:22:46 am »
Just to end this point hopefully, its easier for me to find it on my own post, here we go.



ans after some encouraging words from clients and other cleaners, i posted this in the comments

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« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2020, 12:38:49 am »
Nope i cant see the contradictions.
Do you know how long a person without underlying problems will have the virus for??
I also know when my kids became ill and we removed them from school and I also know when my wife took ill with the virus compared to her other illnesses.
You can also see on my facebook page if you would like to check out how long i have been working half days and part days etc.   As you know i send text messages out to customers to leave gates open. Sadly i dont work the full daybas i expect because my wifes condition can change frequently. I normally text the customers whose house I did not get to and state I have been called away from work and sadly not made it to theres and will be the day after instead.      There is only so many times I can get away with that without giving a  better understanding, because YES it happens alot.  Thankfully a little less now, where sometimes ive been called away as my daughter my have self harmed a little too much as well, but i dont broadcast that to my customers, sue me!  Lol.

So yes, i mention i work half days at time and i have mentioned that i have been selling some work and swapping quantity for less but high paying work.   If you join the dots without being biased, you will see the overall picture of how rubbish it is to run your own business with a  now a long suffering poorly wife who means everything to you and juggle three kids with it all isnt easy.
(Yes i know many on here also have various illnesses and difficulties and im not trying to sound worse than others)
Nathan I know you have a hard time with family matters mate, I wish you all the best of health.

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Re: Another corona question
« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2020, 02:45:58 pm »
If I am to believe the advice from 111 telephone NHS, then my wive, kids n inlaw have all had this virus and thankfully they seem to be over the worse of it now. Also pleased nearing the end of 14 days and I seem to be 100 un affected.

My question.  If ones have supposedly had the virus and come through the other end OK.  Can we still run the chance of passing it on if we come into contact again with it or would our immune system start to attack it straight away.  Would we still need to follow the protocol for social distancing etc etc or could we simply be carriers of it and still need to be concerned

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