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Title: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: Ian101 on October 19, 2012, 03:51:58 pm
https://www.audi.co.uk/content/audi/locate-a-centre/search-centres/partner-uk/inchcape-retail/cheshire-oaks.html

As per the title ...

Thinking one of them little scissor lifts only viable / safe method ?
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: Tony Edwards on October 19, 2012, 04:23:31 pm


WFP and taurpalin ! sorry couldnt resist
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: Paddy Woods on October 19, 2012, 04:38:05 pm
Thinking one of them little scissor lifts only viable / safe method ?
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Don't think any need Ian ,a double pointed ladder indoors would do trick (of course someone footing it!)
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: DaveG on October 19, 2012, 05:08:05 pm
We've done a few like that and we use ladders
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: Ian101 on October 19, 2012, 05:12:15 pm
Keep it simple ladders it is then
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: bobplum on October 19, 2012, 06:24:57 pm
Keep it simple ladders it is then

but then is that not breaking HSE rules
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: Ian101 on October 19, 2012, 07:01:42 pm
Keep it simple ladders it is then

but then is that not breaking HSE rules

no short term duration to do job
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: bobplum on October 19, 2012, 07:06:11 pm
Keep it simple ladders it is then

but then is that not breaking HSE rules

no short term duration to do job

might be a good idea to email andrew willis at impact 43 with the photo and get a second opinion
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: Ian101 on October 19, 2012, 07:07:48 pm
Keep it simple ladders it is then

but then is that not breaking HSE rules

no short term duration to do job

might be a good idea to email andrew willis at impact 43 with the photo and get a second opinion

hes ur bezzy mate can u do it ?  ;)
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: bobplum on October 19, 2012, 07:46:32 pm
i would pole it and clean the cars as well ;D
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: bobplum on October 20, 2012, 08:45:28 am
Keep it simple ladders it is then

but then is that not breaking HSE rules

no short term duration to do job

might be a good idea to email andrew willis at impact 43 with the photo and get a second opinion

hes ur bezzy mate can u do it ?  ;)

right price do anything, haven't used the wagtail in awhile
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: GB Window Cleaning on October 20, 2012, 09:37:17 am
Ive no experience of these jobs at all but surletl h & S would permit ladders?! i would say cherry picker on this!
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: dazmond on October 20, 2012, 09:58:37 am
trad pole the insides.no ladders needed.
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: richywilts on October 20, 2012, 10:02:13 am
yeah trad pole or tower scaff perhaps
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: Halfadaylee on October 20, 2012, 11:57:28 am
But get the cheque first, however you clean it.
Art
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: Ian101 on October 20, 2012, 12:18:47 pm
But get the cheque first, however you clean it.
Art

very true ... cant trust these dodgy car dealers ..... though I was one for 25 years .... no 90 day b******s  ;)
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on October 20, 2012, 03:59:45 pm
cherry pickers scaff towers scissor lifts ??????
Are you lot brain dead or brain damaged ?????
Extending A ladder thats how byou do that job
simple really , you lot sure over complicate a straight
forward job , H+s my arse
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on October 20, 2012, 04:01:00 pm
Ian if you get said job feel free to use mine
or bell me n ill do you the internal  ;)
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: Ian101 on October 20, 2012, 04:37:35 pm
Ian if you get said job feel free to use mine
or bell me n ill do you the internal  ;)

prefer the second option of you doing em  ;D
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: Andrew Willis on October 20, 2012, 05:02:46 pm
Keep it simple ladders it is then

but then is that not breaking HSE rules

no short term duration to do job

might be a good idea to email andrew willis at impact 43 with the photo and get a second opinion

hes ur bezzy mate can u do it ?  ;)
  ;)
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: bobplum on October 20, 2012, 05:07:54 pm
Keep it simple ladders it is then

but then is that not breaking HSE rules

no short term duration to do job

might be a good idea to email andrew willis at impact 43 with the photo and get a second opinion

hes ur bezzy mate can u do it ?  ;)
  ;)
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: Neil Gornall on October 20, 2012, 05:09:12 pm
I would dragonfly this.  So simple and quick.
However if its very dirty I would perhaps trad it for the first clean, but definitely Dragonfly maintenance cleans after.
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: Andrew Willis on October 20, 2012, 05:27:51 pm
https://www.audi.co.uk/content/audi/locate-a-centre/search-centres/partner-uk/inchcape-retail/cheshire-oaks.html

As per the title ...

Thinking one of them little scissor lifts only viable / safe method ?

Ian, Hi

I personally would not recommend ladder work on this, from the image the front elevation is at an angle and the return elevation look as if the exceed 9m, suggest first clean with a small machine
http://www.jms-access.co.uk/hr15.html,
Check structural loadings with the client to make sure the floor can take the weight, complete a good first clean, suggest it would be a good opportunity to vacuum all structures whilst you have machine in, change any lamps etc
 
Then propose on going cleans using this internal system, just need to have a suitable specification, quarterly clean minimum,   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYgdvlKWo3k
 
There is an area you may not be able to clean with recess (to the left of side elevation ) hope this is of use Andy
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: Andrew Willis on October 20, 2012, 05:29:14 pm
I would dragonfly this.  So simple and quick.
However if its very dirty I would perhaps trad it for the first clean, but definitely Dragonfly maintenance cleans after.


Beat me to it  :)
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: Frankybadboy on October 20, 2012, 05:30:12 pm
wagtail on a pole,could it work ;)
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: Cliff perkins on October 20, 2012, 05:59:36 pm
Dragonfly it easy and quick just make sure you have plenty of pads
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: Ian101 on October 20, 2012, 07:07:21 pm
https://www.audi.co.uk/content/audi/locate-a-centre/search-centres/partner-uk/inchcape-retail/cheshire-oaks.html

As per the title ...

Thinking one of them little scissor lifts only viable / safe method ?

Ian, Hi

I personally would not recommend ladder work on this, from the image the front elevation is at an angle and the return elevation look as if the exceed 9m, suggest first clean with a small machine
http://www.jms-access.co.uk/hr15.html,
Check structural loadings with the client to make sure the floor can take the weight, complete a good first clean, suggest it would be a good opportunity to vacuum all structures whilst you have machine in, change any lamps etc
 
Then propose on going cleans using this internal system, just need to have a suitable specification, quarterly clean minimum,   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYgdvlKWo3k
 
There is an area you may not be able to clean with recess (to the left of side elevation ) hope this is of use Andy


Very helpful ... thanks Andy  :)
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: trevor perry on October 21, 2012, 09:33:37 am
in my opinion i would use ladder if under 9 metres high but would ensure it is footed and rubber ladder mits on the top, if over 9 metres then i would use a zip up scaffold others have mentioned a small cherrypicker but be aware these are heavier than they look and the floor may not be adequate to take the weight, even if the floor can take the weight any tiles that have been laid and have airpockets in the tile adhesive will crack unless you board the area out to run the machine on, finally some mention dragonfly or similar these are fine for maintenance cleans but even then they do not clean the sills so so personally dont think they are much use, when you do a method statement put the reasons you are using the method of access chosen at least then it will show you had assessed the situation
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: GB Window Cleaning on October 21, 2012, 10:05:07 am
in my opinion i would use ladder if under 9 metres high but would ensure it is footed and rubber ladder mits on the top, if over 9 metres then i would use a zip up scaffold others have mentioned a small cherrypicker but be aware these are heavier than they look and the floor may not be adequate to take the weight, even if the floor can take the weight any tiles that have been laid and have airpockets in the tile adhesive will crack unless you board the area out to run the machine on, finally some mention dragonfly or similar these are fine for maintenance cleans but even then they do not clean the sills so so personally dont think they are much use, when you do a method statement put the reasons you are using the method of access chosen at least then it will show you had assessed the situation

I had the same idea about frames and sills too, also im interested what frequencys poepl offer for these commercial jobs? ( i know. another frequncy question from george  ;D)
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: Ian101 on October 21, 2012, 10:11:23 am
in my opinion i would use ladder if under 9 metres high but would ensure it is footed and rubber ladder mits on the top, if over 9 metres then i would use a zip up scaffold others have mentioned a small cherrypicker but be aware these are heavier than they look and the floor may not be adequate to take the weight, even if the floor can take the weight any tiles that have been laid and have airpockets in the tile adhesive will crack unless you board the area out to run the machine on, finally some mention dragonfly or similar these are fine for maintenance cleans but even then they do not clean the sills so so personally dont think they are much use, when you do a method statement put the reasons you are using the method of access chosen at least then it will show you had assessed the situation

I had the same idea about frames and sills too, also im interested what frequencys poepl offer for these commercial jobs? ( i know. another frequncy question from george  ;D)

I would hope to get the outsides on a monthly or 6 weeks schedule and insides done every other to keep cost down
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: bobplum on October 21, 2012, 01:25:08 pm
https://www.audi.co.uk/content/audi/locate-a-centre/search-centres/partner-uk/inchcape-retail/cheshire-oaks.html

As per the title ...

Thinking one of them little scissor lifts only viable / safe method ?

Ian, Hi

I personally would not recommend ladder work on this, from the image the front elevation is at an angle and the return elevation look as if the exceed 9m, suggest first clean with a small machine
http://www.jms-access.co.uk/hr15.html,
Check structural loadings with the client to make sure the floor can take the weight, complete a good first clean, suggest it would be a good opportunity to vacuum all structures whilst you have machine in, change any lamps etc
 
Then propose on going cleans using this internal system, just need to have a suitable specification, quarterly clean minimum,   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYgdvlKWo3k
 
There is an area you may not be able to clean with recess (to the left of side elevation ) hope this is of use Andy



told yeah.....his the man ;D
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: brynley on October 21, 2012, 05:37:57 pm
i do 3  car show rooms, outside every 2 weeks, insides monthly
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: GB Window Cleaning on October 22, 2012, 09:41:53 pm
i do 3  car show rooms, outside every 2 weeks, insides monthly
Wow, Does anybody else here do showrooms this often? i know some shop windows can be daily clean can't they!?

Most frequent i had was a cafe i did once a fortnight!
Title: Re: How would you go about cleaning the internals of a car showroom simlair to this
Post by: brynley on October 22, 2012, 10:01:40 pm
the owner of all 3 car showrooms has i'm told ocd, he can spot dust, dirt or finger prints from a mile away, so likes them sparkling all the time, even more often if he has vip's coming to visit.