[semy]

hi all,

ive been in the wheelie bin cleaning game for a while now but im moving from n.ireland back to england and have some questions for ya  

ive been cleaning bins for £1.50 a fortnight and not recycling the water

my questions are
1. i wanted to get about  £2-3 per bin ,fortnightly would be best as i dont need as many customers ,is that ok or would it be best to go monthly

2. im going to recycle from the start and was wondering on what the best filteration system to use

3. the bins will be new so would it be best to do a leaflet drop first or just go straight door to door

4. what payment method do you all use ,mine at the mo is a nightly trip around the streets which i hate with a passion  

5. what disinfectant or deoderizer do you find the best ,at the moment im using pine gell put straight into the tank before i fill

your help would be very gratefull
plus if i can help anyone i would be glad too  

[George-Reid]

Semy.
Fill in some more of your profile and check out my web site. Then we can chat some more.

www.really-wheelie-clean.co.uk

Fortnightly £3 per clean direct Debit payment
is the way forward.

Cheers

George

[semy]

ok george i have done that now  

[MR WHEELIE CLEAN]

Hi Semy,

Welcome to the forum.  

To answer some of your questions - 2 to 3 pounds is definately achievable dependant upon affluence of the area you will be working - 2 weekly and 4 weekly could be offered, once again depends on affluence of area.  Some of my customers moan about having it done 4 weekly - tight gits!   Now that you will be recycling I would suggest that deodourisers will need to be put directly in the bin after cleaning as the recycled water can become dirty and smelly as day goes on.

What area of England will you be working in?

Hope this helps.

Nev.

[George-Reid]

semy.
Good man hope my web site was of some help.

We clean bins fortnightly but have some customers 4 weekly.
some companies clean four weekly but as you say you would need twice as many customers.

We charge £3 per clean £15 up front for first 5 cleans followed by signed direct debit form as preferred method of payment. second choice is cheque sent into office third choice payment on door, we only collect during the round we do not collect at night. It is the customers responsibility to pay their bills not ours to collect it, It means that some customers we cant work for because they want us to collect but its better than working nights.

When you say the bins are new I guess you mean new to customers this can be sticky at first as the customers have not yet thought about bin cleaning so it is best to warm up the area first with leaflet etc before door knock.
Then leaflet again during door knocks.

We have a bactericidal heavy duty cleaner and degreasr made for us with a strong lemon scent. we spray it direct into bins after cleaning, We clean only with water.

Ref Recycle you are probably aware that most water authorities insist that you recycle water and that total loss systems are no longer allowed. We find the best approach is to keep as much solids grass etc out of your cleaning tank to make filtration easier. this is described on our web site.

We can build you a system into donor vehicle for £6000 + vat.

Some questions for you.
Where are you moving to
Do they have 1 bin or 2 bin system
Are they going to be standard 240ltr bins
Are they diamond type bins
Do you use bin liners
How many bins to you expect to clean a day
Have you thought about the commercial market

Hope this is of some help

Cheers

George

[semy]

thanks for the quick reply guys  

i will be moving into south dorset ,the bins are meant to be brought in next year some time near september.

its meant to be a 2 year phase which means im gonna be hard pushed to make a full round straight away , this was why i need to do them fortnightly

they are going to be having a 2 bin system as of type and Ltr of bins is not known at this time

i dont use bin liners on my round at the moment but was thinking of using them for the next round

how many bins i expect to clean = i will need minimum of 50 per day to get me a wage but i would like to do maybe 80 a day ,im doing about 60 - 80 a day now on my own

as for the commercail market i did try it once and it nearly killed me trying to clean a chinese and chip shop restaurant bins , along with about 400ltrs of water ,it was more than a jobs worth i can tell ya  

as for the offer of the in built system for the van ,to be honest i love to build things like that, and would think of it a challenge to do it ,but many thanks any way

you are sooooo lucky not having to collect at night ,it is by far the worst thing about the job in my point of view

many thanks  

[George-Reid]

Semy
No worries happy to help
Think about the bin liners it speeds up the cleaning.
The customers think we fit them for their benifit I explain that we clean the bin and fit a liner then the bin is emptied the liner goes away and they have a clean bin again. A lot of the time the liner is still in the bin pull it out roll it up clean bin fit new liner and pop old one into bottom of bin. With our set up and using liners we clean 100 to 120 per van per day some days 150 but thats hard work.

Not collecting at night is not down to being lucky when you first start a new area you will have to do what you can to make a living but dont make a rod for your back. Many customers are happy to pay by DD some never will but it is well worth offering.

Cheers

George

[semy]

i was wondering what type of tank you use and where you got it from ?

im using a water storage tank now that holds 225 ltrs and i get approx 50-60 bins with that ,but as im going to recycle and i hope to do approx 80 a day what tank would you recommened

plus im still not sure about the water filteration , i can get inline filters etc from the place where i brought my power washer but is there a better way ??



thanks for your input  :

[George-Reid]

Semy.
I build my tanks they are 26cm high and 2.5 m to 3m long dependant on donor vehicle and contain approx 400Ltrs of water enough to clean 200 bins per day recycling.

As I said before the trick is to keep the waste out of the tank if you allow it into the tank unless you have a tank with a series of baffles and like a maize in the vertical where you pull the water through but the waste stays at the bottom you will find it very difficult to work with.

In line filters are part of the process but will not work on their own.

my tanks are designed so low so that we  clean the bins above them and allow gravity to feed back into the tank through a metal plate to stop the big rubbish a fibre mesh 50 micron for the small waste and a grease filter then into the tank through a series of baffles then a filer with back flush from washer then an in line filter 50 micron.

I suspect what you are going to try is a tank feeding the washer then collect the waste in a cleaning bay say 40/ 50 bins then pump back into holding tank through filters it can work but its not easy.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

George