SteveTruman

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Wheelie Bin Cleaning
« on: January 30, 2004, 04:44:43 pm »
I have looked into the idea of wheelie bin cleaning as another line in my cleaning vocation of life. Having spoke to the local council regards waste water removal, health and safety , etc. i dont know wether it would be worth the few quid you get for each bin to set up in this line. Anybody out there doing this type of thing yet and if so is it worth it?? The only thing that keeps going round in my head is the thousnds of bins which will be around in the future. At the moment the wheelies arent around us, i am told it will be another 12 month.

Regards

Steve

stevegunn

Re: Wheelie Bin Cleaning
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2004, 08:38:10 pm »
check these out if you have not got anyone doing it at the moment get in first we start doing wheelie bins last year but on one estate there were five wheelie bin cleaners.
WRIGHTWAY SERVICES Manufacturers of Drain Jetters & Pressure Washers Trolley, Trailer or Van mounted Diesel or Petrol drain jetters & Hot or cold pressure washers from £1,400 inc VAT (@ 17.5%) Wheelie bin cleaning unit, van/trailer mounted. Water filtered & recycled. Automated cleaning. From £8,225 inc VAT (@ 17.5%) Industrial electric steam cleaners Tel: 0115-932 0788 T

Re: Wheelie Bin Cleaning
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2004, 07:11:20 pm »
;) ;) ;)......

Only because you are so far away from me will I tell you this.....

Go for it as big as you can.......there are thousands of bins in compact areas.......and yes it pays the bills shall we say.....

Only 1 word of advice though...be careful you don`t step on anyone`s toes.....

Have Fun... ;D

sc

Re: Wheelie Bin Cleaning
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2004, 01:47:17 am »
I've never thought of this before but it seems quite a good business to be in.

I'm only guessing here so don't take the mick if I'm wrong.

£2/clean, a bin cleaned every 3 mins, 20 bins/hour, £40/hour.

That seems good to me.

But it could be:

£1/clean, a bin cleaned every 5 mins, 12 bins/hour, £12/hour.

I haven't got a clue cos I've only ever seen a wheelie bin cleaner once, there isn't many round here, could be a good opportunity in the future.

Does anybody have any better information on it?

Thanks SteveC

Anj

Re: Wheelie Bin Cleaning
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2004, 09:55:04 pm »


 Hi  I have it in my area we pay £1.50 per bin (we have 3 ) its  washed and a wheelie bin black bag put in,  ive seen the buiseness grow from "a throw it together van, to a fleet of signed brightly coloured vans"  i thought of the idea a  couple of years back , but a few weeks later we had  people at the door for the very thing . go for it

Len Gribble

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Re: Wheelie Bin Cleaning
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2004, 12:25:22 am »
Steve

In my road I have only seen two wheelie bins the rest use sacks as I do, then again the council use them too put the sacks into them then wheel them to dust cart, not sure about the financial rewards in this venture! But different councils have different rules on waist.

It appears Care should be taken, it looks like the ice cream wars again wreelyclan comments not mine.

Len
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)

SteveTruman

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Re: Wheelie Bin Cleaning
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2004, 12:54:21 am »
Still looking into it, but council very strict on the control of waste water/detergent. There is a long time to go before the wheelies are around here, but i keep thinking £1-50 x so many thousand every month.  :P  :P  :P

Regards

Steve
P.S. Anj do the people who clean your bins just let the waste go down the road..?

Anj

Re: Wheelie Bin Cleaning
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2004, 10:24:57 am »


  Hi  yes they always park up at the drain  and ive never heard of any compliants from neighbours  

stevegunn

Re: Wheelie Bin Cleaning
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2004, 09:20:33 pm »
In my local ad trader there is a wheelie bin cleaning business for sale £15,000 and they washed out in the road no self contained unit :o :o

stevey331

Re: Wheelie Bin Cleaning
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2004, 11:32:12 am »
hi  all just to say that am cleaning  wheelie bins ive have 200 bins everyweek at the cost of £1:70=£340
so it works out at £1360a month not bd eh!! now am trying to get into :-/ window cleaning  steve331

Ian Gourlay

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Re: Wheelie Bin Cleaning
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2004, 10:50:40 pm »
Ive had a wheelie bin for two years, never had it cleaned, cant see why someone would want it cleaned every week.

Obviously people do but why?

Re: Wheelie Bin Cleaning
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2004, 12:07:49 am »
:o :o..There are plenty of reasons why they have them cleaned and I should know I have approx. 3000 every 4 weeks...

They are grotty swines..
They want to see a good looking hunk each time..(me of course.. ;D)
The old people are lonely..
They don`t want to be the only one on the street not to have it done...

There`s just a few....

Have Fun... ;)

Kenny_Dobson

Re: Wheelie Bin Cleaning
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2004, 03:44:56 pm »
Im thinking about starting in this line but the only thing thats holding me back is not the amount of work or even the council / competitors but the fact that my business would totally be dependant upon the refuge collectors being on time or even the right day as they tend to sometimes be a bit slack.Then how would you re-arange to clean when you've got a schedule to stick to?

If i'm talking rubbish (excuse the pun) please let me know as I can see a positive business in the making.

Cheers WIZ ;D

George-Reid

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Re: Wheelie Bin Cleaning
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2004, 05:02:23 pm »
Wiz
You are correct in that the worst part of the job is that you can not clean the bin until it is empty.
Most local councils state that bins should be out by 7:30 in the morning and if not emptied by 7:00 at night should be taken in and put out again the next day.
In my experience the council get a days work done on the correct day about 19 days out of 20 their is always the day when they have a break down etc which they finish the next morning. When you are 1 van 1 man and building a round and this happens its not to bad but when you have a full round to do it is hard. As your business grows and you get more vans and drivers it gets easier again.

You do not reschedule this is impossible and you have to explain this to the customers when it happens.
For example we operate two weekly lets say we do not get Tuesday done this week on one of the rounds  we cant do it next week because we are somewhere else so the customers have to wait until we return on normal day. If this happens a lot to the same customers you end up adjusting their direct debit.

Most councils operate on the same day and the same route through the round we tend to market our rounds from the start of the day on wards so that the later in the day it gets the less of an impact a breakdown will have.

The most difficult is when you are trying to build rounds and have an area where perhaps 3 or 4 vans are operating and you are ruining around behind them all.

As a one man band is is easier to start late and work late as you never have to wait but as you grow this is not practical

Don't let this put you off it is a small negative in what other wise is a good business to be in.

For example very little customer contact, very little complaints, easy to train staff, good cash flow, large customer base so loss of one customer  has no real impact, Monday to Friday business, no overtime, no call outs, high repeat business 52 weeks a year, not weather Dependant. etc etc.


Hope this helps

Cheers

George
Spectrum Advanced Services Ltd
The Specialist In Wheeled Bin Washing
Domestic, Bulk, Commercial & Industrial
Equipment Supply
Environmental Best Practice Green Apple Award Winner
N.E. Scotland

Kenny_Dobson

Re: Wheelie Bin Cleaning
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2004, 07:42:59 pm »
George

thanks a lot for the info as i'm really going to give it a good crack but i'm a caitious fellow and like to have solutions to problems before they arise.What type of setup would you recomend starting with?

p.s. I operate a commercial cleaning company and this would be an add on to this so I would also be servicing my commercial clients as well as domestic.

Once again thanks for your time.
Wiz

George-Reid

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Re: Wheelie Bin Cleaning
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2004, 08:16:34 pm »
Wiz
If you have looked at my web site you will have seen my commercial vehicle the increased cost of this vehicle above a domestic vehicle can be recovered very quickly if you carry out commercial work.

For example we have days where we can earn £900 and up wards per 1 man 1 van + vat  in some cases we charge £40 for a 1100ltr bin clean. Commercial is a very good market and easier to control than domestic you also often get more than one day a week to clean the bin some clients get their bin emptied daily. What we do if domestic was a problem the day before as discussed we will put commercial driver to finish domestic round the next day and then work to catch up on commercial.


Hope this helps

Cheers

George
Spectrum Advanced Services Ltd
The Specialist In Wheeled Bin Washing
Domestic, Bulk, Commercial & Industrial
Equipment Supply
Environmental Best Practice Green Apple Award Winner
N.E. Scotland

Rob_Mac

Re: Wheelie Bin Cleaning
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2004, 12:36:53 am »
Looked into this in Staffordshire and have been able to help someone else set up. You need to look at effluent and it only going down foul drain. It is against the law - £200000 fine if you are caught doing anything else ( getting rid of waste water in any other way.) Check with local water board for what the law is

MR WHEELIE CLEAN

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Re: Wheelie Bin Cleaning
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2004, 10:25:55 am »
Hi all,

I've been wheelie bin cleaning for about a year now and can confirm that it is worthwhile.  It isn't as easy as the franchises make out and beware of working out the huge profits that you are sure you will make! A few pointers - if you are cleaning properly then you will find it difficult to clean any more than about 100 per day on a regular basis - this is very tiring and you need to be fit - I got a football injury to the ribs early on in the business and this would have been a nightmare if I had been busy - so no more football (40 years old now anyway) - on this basis you will be able to do approx 2000 per 4 week period - each day there will be some bins that will not be able to be cleaned which means lost income - cust may be on holiday - bin not emptied etc etc - allow about 5% - pricing, unless you want to become the wheelie bin cleaning God for your area why only charge 1.50 per bin, yes you will the customers quicker and you will also be the busy fool - 2000 x 95% x 1.50 = 2850 per 4 week period (very nice) - I charge 2.50 and will still get to my 2000 customers - 2000 x 95% x 2.50 = 4750 per 4 week period (very much nicer) - hence I can spend 1000 per month employing  someone to do the nasty work whilst I collect the dosh and still make 900 more than the busy fool! Monthly costs are approximately 500-600 including depreciation and marketing, but these come down as you get more established.  If you are hell bent on wheelie global domination and want a fleet of vehicles these costs will vary as premises will be needed, whereas some costs cover more than one van.  My view is go for it but don't expect it to be easy. It does get easier as you get more established but this probably applies to most businesses in most industries. The rewards are worth it in my opinion. Must go now, got 70 to do today.
Cheers,
Nev
bye from Nev @ MR W C

George-Reid

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Re: Wheelie Bin Cleaning
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2004, 10:38:18 am »
Midas
Thanks for that see the thread below same name has more info on this.

Cheers

George
Spectrum Advanced Services Ltd
The Specialist In Wheeled Bin Washing
Domestic, Bulk, Commercial & Industrial
Equipment Supply
Environmental Best Practice Green Apple Award Winner
N.E. Scotland