the prob i had with wintecs was, i use my card there and it got cloned and ended up with double payments going out and people using it at betfair
after speaking to wintecs, i got the not our system, but since then nearly every i know who use wintecs has had problems.
the prob i had after was with the bank, regarding payemnt that people where trying to claim, which have all been sorted now, but if i had not had my card cloned then i wouldnt of had all the problems