groundhog

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Re: What are the potential weekly earnings
« Reply #40 on: May 10, 2010, 10:51:34 pm »

I intend to start a newsletter soon with offers and discounts as well as updates on new services, at first it will go out every 3 months, then if its popular monthly.


Sounds interesting, what kind of offers/discounts do you mean?

williamx

Re: What are the potential weekly earnings
« Reply #41 on: May 10, 2010, 10:54:50 pm »
Telephoning the night before has earn't me more money than it has cost me, for starters I can guarantee that all the backs are cleaned even if the custy is not at home, how many times do you turn up and you cannot do them, this is costing you money.



There's not many gates which prevent me from cleaning the backs, I normally just hop over them. And the few times I have agreed to phone the night before, I find normally results in problems.. ie 'leave it this month thanks'!!!

No I have a strict policy on cancelations, I don't mine the odd one every so on for hospital appointments, holidays and so on but if they just want to cancel without a valid reason then they cancel for life.

williamx

Re: What are the potential weekly earnings
« Reply #42 on: May 10, 2010, 11:03:38 pm »

I intend to start a newsletter soon with offers and discounts as well as updates on new services, at first it will go out every 3 months, then if its popular monthly.


Sounds interesting, what kind of offers/discounts do you mean?

Well at the moment I clean windows and carpets and I will soon be doing gutters, a friend of mine is also a carpet cleaner but he also cleans upholstery as well, another friend also does driveways.

What I do is I promote all of these services windows and carpets I do, the others I get paid a commision on.

The offers I intend to offer will range from have your carpets cleaned and get your windows cleaned free of charge, introduce another window cleaning customer and get your windows cleaned free of charge, get me a commercial contract and your window are cleaned free plus also a £50 gift voucher, if the contract is worth more than £500.

Basically it will be get you windows cleaned free for every service you have done, with the jobs I sub-contract out they pay the window cleaning bill plus commision.

Paul Golding

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Re: What are the potential weekly earnings
« Reply #43 on: May 10, 2010, 11:04:23 pm »
paulgold,  i didnt say i would do a full day  lol

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

sorry, had to go out !!!

Gav Camm lammy 283

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Re: What are the potential weekly earnings
« Reply #44 on: May 10, 2010, 11:11:17 pm »
Hi all how much can you earn on a weekly basis by doing domestics window cleaning
judging most on ere 3k a week lol ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
LET YOUR PANES BE MY PLEASURE

"If CALSBERG did WINDOW CLEANING
 it would be C.C.C  Probably the best WINDOW CLEANERS IN THE WORLD ..........."

Paul Golding

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Re: What are the potential weekly earnings
« Reply #45 on: May 10, 2010, 11:13:08 pm »
Hi all how much can you earn on a weekly basis by doing domestics window cleaning
judging most on ere 3k a week lol ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

don't be stupid . . that would mean working at least a 20hr wk !!!  ;) ;D

Gav Camm lammy 283

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Re: What are the potential weekly earnings
« Reply #46 on: May 10, 2010, 11:23:44 pm »
only 20hrs lol ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
LET YOUR PANES BE MY PLEASURE

"If CALSBERG did WINDOW CLEANING
 it would be C.C.C  Probably the best WINDOW CLEANERS IN THE WORLD ..........."

groundhog

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Re: What are the potential weekly earnings
« Reply #47 on: May 10, 2010, 11:29:19 pm »

Well at the moment I clean windows and carpets and I will soon be doing gutters, a friend of mine is also a carpet cleaner but he also cleans upholstery as well, another friend also does driveways.

What I do is I promote all of these services windows and carpets I do, the others I get paid a commision on.

The offers I intend to offer will range from have your carpets cleaned and get your windows cleaned free of charge, introduce another window cleaning customer and get your windows cleaned free of charge, get me a commercial contract and your window are cleaned free plus also a £50 gift voucher, if the contract is worth more than £500.

Basically it will be get you windows cleaned free for every service you have done, with the jobs I sub-contract out they pay the window cleaning bill plus commision.

Do you employ? I am so over run with window cleaning that I try to avoid doing any other services, although I do clean gutters/fascia etc if a regular customer asks for it. I like the idea of the free clean for a commercial contract, that would be worth a freebie!! not sure about the £50 gift voucher though!! perhaps I'm just tight!!  :)

Paul Coleman

Re: What are the potential weekly earnings
« Reply #48 on: May 10, 2010, 11:30:42 pm »
I earn millions every week.
I wish they would stop paying me in Zimbabwean dollars though.

Paul Golding

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Re: What are the potential weekly earnings
« Reply #49 on: May 10, 2010, 11:31:44 pm »
I earn millions every week.
I wish they would stop paying me in Zimbabwean dollars though.

reminds me of that fonejacker sketch !!

williamx

Re: What are the potential weekly earnings
« Reply #50 on: May 10, 2010, 11:42:33 pm »

Well at the moment I clean windows and carpets and I will soon be doing gutters, a friend of mine is also a carpet cleaner but he also cleans upholstery as well, another friend also does driveways.

What I do is I promote all of these services windows and carpets I do, the others I get paid a commision on.

The offers I intend to offer will range from have your carpets cleaned and get your windows cleaned free of charge, introduce another window cleaning customer and get your windows cleaned free of charge, get me a commercial contract and your window are cleaned free plus also a £50 gift voucher, if the contract is worth more than £500.

Basically it will be get you windows cleaned free for every service you have done, with the jobs I sub-contract out they pay the window cleaning bill plus commision.

Do you employ? I am so over run with window cleaning that I try to avoid doing any other services, although I do clean gutters/fascia etc if a regular customer asks for it. I like the idea of the free clean for a commercial contract, that would be worth a freebie!! not sure about the £50 gift voucher though!! perhaps I'm just tight!!  :)

At the moment I am looking for my 1st franshisee, I was going to start them off with £25000 of business at the start but after advice from Ian Lancaster they are only going to get £10000 but that will increase as soon as they can handle the extra work.

If a contract is worth £500 per year then £50 is a pittance, back in the good old days of backhanders £50 would be considered small change.

There are times when penny pinching is correct like buying fancy over price wfp systems, but when you need to promote your business, money should not come into it, within reason.

With any business getting the customers is the hardest part, as soon as you get them what you need to do is extract the maximum amount of income from them.

Every single one of your customers uses other service industries and they are more likely go to the ones that are recommended from reliable sources.

Platinum

Re: What are the potential weekly earnings
« Reply #51 on: May 11, 2010, 12:02:08 am »
You can earn whatever you want if your self employed.

Thats the beauty of being your own boss

Good luck  ;)

supernova77

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Re: What are the potential weekly earnings
« Reply #52 on: May 11, 2010, 12:39:37 am »
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Dress and be clean shaven and a profession image.

I'm rarely clean shaven, but I'm doing just fine  ;)

Andy

Window Washers

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Re: What are the potential weekly earnings
« Reply #53 on: May 11, 2010, 07:11:34 am »
i really do get a buzz from groundhogs/hydrocleans posts!rather than feel jealous(like some do on ere!)it just drives me on to build a better business knowing you guys have done it!maybe i have been a busy fool in the past and im not ashamed to admit it!doesnt mean i cant change!i am changing!and learning from past mistakes.

at 38 i feel ive still got time to turn things around! ;) ;D ;D ;D

best wishes to everyone

dazmond

Good on ya Daz!! I'm glad I've finally managed to inspire someone on here!!!  :)
He aint seen ya video then  :P
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

Moderator David@stives

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Re: What are the potential weekly earnings
« Reply #54 on: May 11, 2010, 07:13:11 am »
Pure Hydro

Are you going to follow Ians business model, or are you going ahead with your plan you posted a couple of months back.

I am really interested to know.
 

Dave


williamx

Re: What are the potential weekly earnings
« Reply #55 on: May 11, 2010, 10:15:48 am »
When I posted my thoughs on moving my business to the next level, the figures I quoted where not set in conreate.

For instance I am in a position to release £25k worth of business to a franshisee straightaway, but Ian did point out that a newbie would not be able to cope with the workload, instead I am going to follow Ians figure of £10k straightaway with the rest coming online as and when they can cope.

Some on here will say that a newbie can cope with £25k straightaway especially with my prices, but I do set quality of workmanship as the 1st priority, anyway within 3 months they should be upto that figure.

The rest of the franshise package is going to be the same as Ian's except for a couple of extra's that I will be offering and the price I will be charging.

The extras I have included are Carpet and Upholstery Cleaning and Gutter Cleaning, with regard to Carpet and Upholstery Cleaning they will be trained by The NCCA.

The package prices also differ greatly to Ians as well mine is as follows

 PACKAGE 1

The franchise term is 3 years.

The licence fee is £10000 without a company vehicle.

The licence fee is £15000 with a vehicle supplied by the company

The percentage that you have to pay the company on your turnover less vat (if applicable) is set at 20%, this is payable monthly in arrears.

PACKAGE 2

The franchise term is 4 years.

The licence fee is £12000 without a company vehicle.

The licence fee is £17000 with a vehicle supplied by the company

The percentage that you have to pay the company on your turnover less vat (if applicable) is set at 19%, this is payable monthly in arrears.

PACKAGE 3

The franchise term is 5 years.

The licence fee is £15000 without a company vehicle.

The licence fee is £20000 with a vehicle supplied by the company

The percentage that you have to pay the company on your turnover less vat (if applicable) is set at 18%, this is payable monthly in arrears.

PACKAGE 4

The franchise term is 7 years.

The licence fee is £21000 without a company vehicle.

The licence fee is £ 26000 with a vehicle supplied by the company

The percentage that you have to pay the company on your turnover less vat (if applicable) is set at 15%, this is payable monthly in arrears.

Now this is where I will differ from Ian's business unlike him I will also be employing window cleaners as well, they will all be taken on a 30 hour per week contract, so I can alter their shift pattern when I take on a new franshisee.

At what stage am I at now?

The franchise agreement which is the most important thing to have right is now with the solictors been turn into legal speak.

I am starting 2 paid canvassers who start knocking the doors from this saturday with a target of 20 new jobs to be produced each week.

10000 new flyers are due from the printers by Thursday, marketing all my services as well as the franshising opportunitys that I offer.

My web site is going to a seo company this week to maximise it web presence.

and in my spare time I have signed up with the Open University to take my BA (honors) Degree that I was surpose to have done when I was 17 but couldn't because my mother was dying.

supernova77

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Re: What are the potential weekly earnings
« Reply #56 on: May 11, 2010, 10:44:25 am »
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The franchise term is

What happens when the franchise term runs out? Do they have to pay another license fee?

Surely it would be better to charge a one-off license fee and then just collect a % each month forever?

Andy

williamx

Re: What are the potential weekly earnings
« Reply #57 on: May 11, 2010, 12:40:36 pm »
Good point and I might change it but at the moment a licence fee is a commitment that they make, with just a ongoing  % then they are more likely to move on at anytime, if they have to pay a lump sum, they are more likely to stay for the licence period.

Moderator David@stives

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Re: What are the potential weekly earnings
« Reply #58 on: May 11, 2010, 12:42:12 pm »
William looks like he has done his homework, only he knows if it will work or not.

Good luck with it and hope it works out.

If you want to discuss a different business model give us a call.

Dave

supernova77

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Re: What are the potential weekly earnings
« Reply #59 on: May 11, 2010, 12:44:53 pm »
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Good point and I might change it but at the moment a licence fee is a commitment that they make.

I've also been looking into the franchise route.

If I do implement it then I will charge a flat one-off fee which will include an initial £1k of work per month + a fitted van mount system, the franchisee will have to supply the van though... Then the franchisee would pay 22% of all turnover forever... If they quit the franchise then they hand back all work and equipment that I have supplied.

Andy