Smurf

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Softwashing using metering ball valves
« on: October 15, 2016, 11:16:02 am »
Anybody else seen these new metering ball valves being used on softwash setups on the tinternet?




 

Smurf

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Re: Softwashing using metering ball valves
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2016, 11:22:27 pm »
I take that as a no then  ;D

chris scott

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Re: Softwashing using metering ball valves
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2016, 08:31:47 am »
Never seen them used....AC locker uses them on his soft wash systems.  Pay Ben to build you one.
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Smurf

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Re: Softwashing using metering ball valves
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2016, 10:12:10 am »
I'm betting Ben has never seen them before let alone be able to build me one  ;D



Smurf

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Re: Softwashing using metering ball valves
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2016, 10:43:25 am »
Mind they don't look that difficult to build  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5szEjZtSOPU

Smurf

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Re: Softwashing using metering ball valves
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2016, 11:09:57 am »
After doing a bit of digging that make of metering ball valve is GF (Canada).  I've also found another company over here that makes metering ball valves too that are allegedly better designed going by the blurb on their site.

chris scott

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Re: Softwashing using metering ball valves
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2016, 11:48:28 am »
www.durapipe.co.uk ...if you really want one
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Smurf

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Re: Softwashing using metering ball valves
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2016, 01:10:21 pm »
www.durapipe.co.uk ...if you really want one

Yes I know Chris as I can search the tinternet too  ;D

Smurf

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Re: Softwashing using metering ball valves
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2016, 01:24:58 pm »
Pity durapipe don't do proper wifi activators instead of just bluetooth (so say 10m range) as would be rather cool when wanting to say add/change a soap mix on the fly whilst doing wfp work just by using an app on a phone instead of going back and forth to the van.


Smurf

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Re: Softwashing using metering ball valves
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2016, 01:39:20 pm »
I'm betting these metering ball valves will be all the rage over here soon as the way I see it can have so many applications of use on van mounted system.  Like for instance even just using for wfp work (with an up rated chem pump) on say filthy exterior windows,  frames, sills, plastics, conservatory roofs, fsg's, cladding etc etc  with whatever chem and dilution rate mix you want directly fed to the pole. No more faffing around with batch mixing nor using other means of getting it to where you want it to go.  Sounds good don't it?

Who do you think will come out with this revolutionary new wfp system first.

Gripper
Purefreedom
X-line
Gardiner
Benz
Algopro
Ben from rutland pumps

Or someone else maybe???   ::)roll  ;D  ;D





chris scott

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Re: Softwashing using metering ball valves
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2016, 02:56:22 pm »
Just use a doseatron.
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Re: Softwashing using metering ball valves
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2016, 03:06:06 pm »
Doseatron are so very last year Chris...You have to keep up with the times  ;D

chris scott

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Re: Softwashing using metering ball valves
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2016, 03:13:29 pm »
 ;D
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Smurf

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Re: Softwashing using metering ball valves
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2016, 01:20:20 pm »
I found this vid quite interesting  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygZll5yrdac
Converting a skid for use with the Pro-Portioner from The PowerWash Store. The Proportioner is a revolutionary metering system for softwashing. Change your mix ratios "on the fly"...no more batch mixing!

Ben Marriott

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Re: Softwashing using metering ball valves
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2016, 08:05:09 pm »
Ben has had them and been using them for the chicken farm in the village for 2 years :)
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Smurf

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Re: Softwashing using metering ball valves
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2016, 08:58:17 pm »
Ben has had them and been using them for the chicken farm in the village for 2 years :)

There you go another use for them now  ;D

Smurf

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Re: Softwashing using metering ball valves
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2016, 09:06:21 pm »
I found out today just what I need to build something better than the Pro-Portioner and it's not going to cost nowhere near 1200 bucks either. Regards to that price let’s just say it comes in a very expensive stainless steel box    ;)

Smurf

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Re: Softwashing using metering ball valves
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2016, 01:42:23 pm »
If anyone is interested to make your own pro-proportioner type setup I have a wee bit of info for you.
After speaking with the valve tech department at durapipe to find out what material/seals would be suitable for 14-15 hypo as there are a few types to choose from. I was informed durapipe pvcu epdm seal metering ball valves would be suitable.

Durapipe don't sell direct but was given a RRP of £116.64 inc vat. However the chap gave the contact details of a supplier that I contacted for a price. Industrial Pipeline Supplies got back to me with a price of  76.45 + vat (£91.74) each plus delivery for the 1/2 inch version.

All you then need to do is then figure out the fittings you need etc and stick it in a box.

Hope this helps?

Or if money is no object you could simply order one from the states for 1200 bucks plus UK delivery and import tax.

ascjim

Re: Softwashing using metering ball valves
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2016, 05:29:27 pm »
I would like a measure device thingy pump.

Maybe something that can be used with a wfp system.  Saves the guys measuring out chemicals.

Smurf

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Re: Softwashing using metering ball valves
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2016, 12:37:20 am »
Like this do you mean as is running off a 12 volt (chemical) pump?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5szEjZtSOPU

ascjim

Re: Softwashing using metering ball valves
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2016, 04:06:02 pm »
That looks great! I need something like that

Smurf

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Re: Softwashing using metering ball valves
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2016, 12:01:09 pm »
James, I gave some info previously in this post on a UK supplier to buy the metering ball valves separately. Therefore it should not be that difficult for diy minded folk to knock one up at a fraction of the cost. I was also informed that UK metering ball valve works better than the yank branded valves due to the nature of the inside workings of the metering valve itself.

ascjim

Re: Softwashing using metering ball valves
« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2016, 05:58:30 pm »
Have you manged to build one?

Paul Doig

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Re: Softwashing using metering ball valves
« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2018, 09:37:13 am »
Just saw this, someone in the US has made a homemade version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5h6GSPY9mM

A few more valves, but made to suit his purpose.

Another one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMstJgN_8yc