chris scott

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How much should i earn?
« on: July 26, 2013, 10:03:09 pm »
How much should i earn when i become  professional pressure washer ? Whats an average expected wage ? I am struggling to make it pay well at the moment but a few more regular customers and a few more services should see a decent wage coming in ...shouldn't it?
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Rob_Mac

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2013, 10:05:01 pm »
No - don't get above your station!!

Rob ;D

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2013, 10:07:34 pm »
It was a reasonable question.
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Rob_Mac

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2013, 10:12:39 pm »
I think that once you get your speed up and get rid of the Nilfisk you could be earning £20.00 per hour?

Maybe!

Rob ;D

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2013, 10:33:17 pm »
Nilfisk?
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Rob_Mac

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2013, 10:35:40 pm »
Joke Christophe!

Rob ;D

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2013, 10:52:58 pm »
3hrs putting out leaflets 3hrs cleaning each day and you make an easy grand a week.

This formula is so simple it sounds toooooo simple.

For the first month you'll not make a grand but after a month you get a cumulative response from the leaflets.

 The problem  is you are a lazy fooker and won't do 3'hrs every day leafleting ;) ;)
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Roger Oakley

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2013, 11:02:32 pm »
How much should i earn when i become  professional pressure washer ? Whats an average expected wage ? I am struggling to make it pay well at the moment but a few more regular customers and a few more services should see a decent wage coming in ...shouldn't it?

Chris
It's not how much should you earn, more of what could you earn.
I have just seen the post above, and for me leaflets are a waste of time in my area, my target area is slightly different maybe.
Leaflets can work, but realised there is an easier way to do this, even with quoting.
The sealer strip you did the other week was top work, so why don't you target this market, I'm inundated with this sort of work to the point people will wait till next year to get it done by us.
It really is how you sell your services

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2013, 03:45:59 pm »
I Do you think some people over exaggerate how much profit they actually make/how well they are actually doing.

 I just wanted some "run of the mill" pressure washer people to answer to give me some indication of my progress.

Roger.
I like your site and this is no way a criticism merely a question... but i don't see "coatings removal " actively promoted on there. Where do you get this work from.
If i were to specialise in "coatings removal" how to you suggest i go about promoting myself ..apart from the obvious, website etc.
It seems to me your customers already have "trust" in you ,where as as i see it the customer has already had one "cowboy installer" around them why should they trust a "cowboy un-installer"... you first need to install the trust. How do i go about this?
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Roger Oakley

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2013, 04:19:47 pm »
I Do you think some people over exaggerate how much profit they actually make/how well they are actually doing.

 I just wanted some "run of the mill" pressure washer people to answer to give me some indication of my progress.

Roger.
I like your site and this is no way a criticism merely a question... but i don't see "coatings removal " actively promoted on there. Where do you get this work from.
If i were to specialise in "coatings removal" how to you suggest i go about promoting myself ..apart from the obvious, website etc.
It seems to me your customers already have "trust" in you ,where as as i see it the customer has already had one "cowboy installer" around them why should they trust a "cowboy un-installer"... you first need to install the trust. How do i go about this?

Chris
You are right we don't actively promote "coatings removal" but we do have stain/sealer removal mentioned on our site for wood. Most of the sealer removals we do for paving comes from various areas, mainly paving companies/suppliers that have messed them up in the first place.

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2013, 04:26:27 pm »
Iam 'run of the mill' I average 5 to 7 domestic  jobs per week and each one is about 300 to 600.
Simon

Rob_Mac

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2013, 08:46:56 pm »
Chris

It isn't about what you know, how you have learned it or how you get it across.

No that is wrong, it is all of that initially - that get's the ball rolling.

Once the ball is rolling it is how you handle yourself, the confidence you inspire, what you give them as an end product.

You can learn people management but it is a lot easier if it is natural.

Roger has built a reputation, he is good at what he does, he understands the chemicals, the application, the processes.

Speak to him - it's like speaking to the almanack on wood restoration.

It doesn't matter that he doesn't know everything, he knows enough to blag it through (if he needs to) and if it is something technical he will find out.

People will always pass on the details of a good, tried & tested service, particularly when they have the money but don't want to be ripped off, niche market, basic service ;)

If Manchester airport asked me for a plan to clean the whole complex i wouldn't have a clue but I could give them a complete breakdown and structure within a week.

I may be crapping it but they would feel confident that I knew what I was doing.

Confidence in your service and yourself ;D

The window to the business (website) has to tell people the same.

I'm a one horse show but my business has cleaned on the Olympic Park - this guy must know what he is doing (is the impression) and he must be geared up for it.

Let's give him a call

Rob ;D

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2013, 10:33:31 pm »
I Do you think some people over exaggerate how much profit they actually make/how well they are actually doing.

 I just wanted some "run of the mill" pressure washer people to answer to give me some indication of my progress.

Roger.
I like your site and this is no way a criticism merely a question... but i don't see "coatings removal " actively promoted on there. Where do you get this work from.
If i were to specialise in "coatings removal" how to you suggest i go about promoting myself ..apart from the obvious, website etc.
It seems to me your customers already have "trust" in you ,where as as i see it the customer has already had one "cowboy installer" around them why should they trust a "cowboy un-installer"... you first need to install the trust. How do i go about this?

Chris
You are right we don't actively promote "coatings removal" but we do have stain/sealer removal mentioned on our site for wood. Most of the sealer removals we do for paving comes from various areas, mainly paving companies/suppliers that have messed them up in the first place.
So you have contracts with Resiblock,Smartseal etc to remove "gone wrong" sealers?
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Roger Oakley

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2013, 11:29:07 am »
I Do you think some people over exaggerate how much profit they actually make/how well they are actually doing.

 I just wanted some "run of the mill" pressure washer people to answer to give me some indication of my progress.

Roger.
I like your site and this is no way a criticism merely a question... but i don't see "coatings removal " actively promoted on there. Where do you get this work from.
If i were to specialise in "coatings removal" how to you suggest i go about promoting myself ..apart from the obvious, website etc.
It seems to me your customers already have "trust" in you ,where as as i see it the customer has already had one "cowboy installer" around them why should they trust a "cowboy un-installer"... you first need to install the trust. How do i go about this?

Chris
You are right we don't actively promote "coatings removal" but we do have stain/sealer removal mentioned on our site for wood. Most of the sealer removals we do for paving comes from various areas, mainly paving companies/suppliers that have messed them up in the first place.
So you have contracts with Resiblock,Smartseal etc to remove "gone wrong" sealers?

No, you are missing the point, don't have any connection to Smartseal, yes we are classed as Resiblock contractors but don't do any work for them. The sealer removals we do are for domestic customers, usually whose paving (patios, natural stone say 9 out of 10 times) that has been laid, and either the company or stone supplier has sealed then with a crap product or just done a bad job.

chris scott

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2013, 11:56:53 am »
I Do you think some people over exaggerate how much profit they actually make/how well they are actually doing.

 I just wanted some "run of the mill" pressure washer people to answer to give me some indication of my progress.

Roger.
I like your site and this is no way a criticism merely a question... but i don't see "coatings removal " actively promoted on there. Where do you get this work from.
If i were to specialise in "coatings removal" how to you suggest i go about promoting myself ..apart from the obvious, website etc.
It seems to me your customers already have "trust" in you ,where as as i see it the customer has already had one "cowboy installer" around them why should they trust a "cowboy un-installer"... you first need to install the trust. How do i go about this?

Chris
You are right we don't actively promote "coatings removal" but we do have stain/sealer removal mentioned on our site for wood. Most of the sealer removals we do for paving comes from various areas, mainly paving companies/suppliers that have messed them up in the first place.
So you have contracts with Resiblock,Smartseal etc to remove "gone wrong" sealers?

No, you are missing the point, don't have any connection to Smartseal, yes we are classed as Resiblock contractors but don't do any work for them. The sealer removals we do are for domestic customers, usually whose paving (patios, natural stone say 9 out of 10 times) that has been laid, and either the company or stone supplier has sealed then with a crap product or just done a bad job.
Ok got it now.
So it's mainly existing customers. Where do the new customers come from..generally?
 The website,recommendation,do you advertise this service specifically elsewhere?
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Roger Oakley

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2013, 12:08:49 pm »
I Do you think some people over exaggerate how much profit they actually make/how well they are actually doing.

 I just wanted some "run of the mill" pressure washer people to answer to give me some indication of my progress.

Roger.
I like your site and this is no way a criticism merely a question... but i don't see "coatings removal " actively promoted on there. Where do you get this work from.
If i were to specialise in "coatings removal" how to you suggest i go about promoting myself ..apart from the obvious, website etc.
It seems to me your customers already have "trust" in you ,where as as i see it the customer has already had one "cowboy installer" around them why should they trust a "cowboy un-installer"... you first need to install the trust. How do i go about this?

Chris
You are right we don't actively promote "coatings removal" but we do have stain/sealer removal mentioned on our site for wood. Most of the sealer removals we do for paving comes from various areas, mainly paving companies/suppliers that have messed them up in the first place.
So you have contracts with Resiblock,Smartseal etc to remove "gone wrong" sealers?

No, you are missing the point, don't have any connection to Smartseal, yes we are classed as Resiblock contractors but don't do any work for them. The sealer removals we do are for domestic customers, usually whose paving (patios, natural stone say 9 out of 10 times) that has been laid, and either the company or stone supplier has sealed then with a crap product or just done a bad job.
Ok got it now.
So it's mainly existing customers. Where do the new customers come from..generally?
 The website,recommendation,do you advertise this service specifically elsewhere?

No again, not mainly existing customers, new custom comes from web-site, recommendations, contact's that we have in the paving field. We get around 100 new customers a year, some will be a once only clean you just know this when you meet them for the quote, some we will offer a maintenance plan so as to get them year on year.
Most of our decking clients are year on year as with the natural stone ones.

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2013, 12:35:57 pm »
How long have you been in business for chris?
Do you offer any other services other than pressure washing?
Are most of your customers domestic?
Tim.

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2013, 01:30:12 pm »
I have been "pressure washing " for about 20 years....domestics only recently since i retired!
 
We have a domestic site   www.northwestdriveclean.co.uk
We also have a  site for customers that have enough money to make me want to work away from home again !   www.cleaning-service.uk.com
It is the domestic market i have the interest in.
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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2013, 02:15:19 pm »
How much do you WANT to earn?
How much do you NEED to earn?

chris scott

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2013, 02:25:48 pm »
How much do you WANT to earn?
How much do you NEED to earn?
Want/need a grand a week.
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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2013, 03:35:27 pm »
Well get out there and earn it and stop coming on here and trying to hump Rob  :-\ ;D

chris scott

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2013, 04:18:26 pm »
Well get out there and earn it and stop coming on here and trying to hump Rob  :-\ ;D
But i think i love him :P
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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2013, 05:10:35 pm »
How much do you WANT to earn?
How much do you NEED to earn?
Want/need a grand a week.

I cant believe you cant earn 1k a week? With your knowledge and experience!

I earned a grand one week a while ago....I hate only working 3 days!!!

chris scott

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2013, 06:02:04 pm »
How much do you WANT to earn?
How much do you NEED to earn?
Want/need a grand a week.

I cant believe you cant earn 1k a week? With your knowledge and experience!

I earned a grand one week a while ago....I hate only working 3 days!!!
Spend some then and stop advertising for a secondhand whirl a way ...they are only a days wage new ;D! Is it really possible to earn a grand a week cleaning drives ? Where do you get your work from Simon ..do you do any coating removals or just cleaning and sealing?
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Simon@Pristine Pathways

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2013, 06:21:45 pm »
How much do you WANT to earn?
How much do you NEED to earn?
Want/need a grand a week.

I cant believe you cant earn 1k a week? With your knowledge and experience!

I earned a grand one week a while ago....I hate only working 3 days!!!
Spend some then and stop advertising for a secondhand whirl a way ...they are only a days wage new ;D! Is it really possible to earn a grand a week cleaning drives ? Where do you get your work from Simon ..do you do any coating removals or just cleaning and sealing?

New whirlaway on its way from USA. Only clean, some sealing and some repointing dont do coating removal. Dont advertise, average web dont spend on that. I have got an excellent reputation and about 40 top class yearly contracts.
And to answer the question is it possible to earn a grand a week....I can easily. Can you? Who knows.

Lanzarote tomorrow for 2 weeks so takings will be down a bit!

Matt Gibson

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2013, 06:25:18 pm »
I have earnt a grand in a week.

Not every week unfortunately, but there is always next week.. or so i keep telling myself  :-\

 ;D ;D

chris scott

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2013, 06:53:07 pm »
How much do you WANT to earn?
How much do you NEED to earn?
Want/need a grand a week.

I cant believe you cant earn 1k a week? With your knowledge and experience!

I earned a grand one week a while ago....I hate only working 3 days!!!
Spend some then and stop advertising for a secondhand whirl a way ...they are only a days wage new ;D! Is it really possible to earn a grand a week cleaning drives ? Where do you get your work from Simon ..do you do any coating removals or just cleaning and sealing?

New whirlaway on its way from USA. Only clean, some sealing and some repointing dont do coating removal. Dont advertise, average web dont spend on that. I have got an excellent reputation and about 40 top class yearly contracts.
And to answer the question is it possible to earn a grand a week....I can easily. Can you? Who knows.

Lanzarote tomorrow for 2 weeks so takings will be down a bit!
No i am not earning anything like £50,000 a year..wish i was. I might venture over the Wirral while you are away if it's that good!
Only kidding my van won't make it that far and i'll get lost.  Have a good holiday!
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Roger Oakley

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2013, 08:19:36 pm »
Chris
No reason why you shouldn't be earning £1K a week, in peak season you should be able to double this. First thing I would do is get rid of the smart seal site and have your our for domestics, they all look the same Smartseal sites not original.
You talk/sound like you have the experience so just put it to use.

Too many people undersell what we do, which is a pity really.

Maybe start with a minimum price structure and stick to it, and not just that's £50.00 as I do this as an add-on attitude.

Positive thinking will start to get you going in the right direction



chris scott

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2013, 09:02:03 pm »
Chris
No reason why you shouldn't be earning £1K a week, in peak season you should be able to double this. First thing I would do is get rid of the smart seal site and have your our for domestics, they all look the same Smartseal sites not original.
You talk/sound like you have the experience so just put it to use.

Too many people undersell what we do, which is a pity really.

Maybe start with a minimum price structure and stick to it, and not just that's £50.00 as I do this as an add-on attitude.

Positive thinking will start to get you going in the right direction



Roger i can do the work.... to a very high standard it,s obtaining it thats the problem!
I won't get out of bed for £50 ...it cost me £30 to start the van by the time i put a gallon of fuel in it ,petrol for the machine,coffee and a cake for breakfast.
You reckon £2000 a week at this time of year  :o . I am definitely doing something wrong . Do you think the smartseal website really puts people off....they only briefly glance at it.
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Roger Oakley

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #29 on: July 28, 2013, 09:39:09 pm »
Chris
No reason why you shouldn't be earning £1K a week, in peak season you should be able to double this. First thing I would do is get rid of the smart seal site and have your our for domestics, they all look the same Smartseal sites not original.
You talk/sound like you have the experience so just put it to use.

Too many people undersell what we do, which is a pity really.

Maybe start with a minimum price structure and stick to it, and not just that's £50.00 as I do this as an add-on attitude.

Positive thinking will start to get you going in the right direction



Roger i can do the work.... to a very high standard it,s obtaining it thats the problem!
I won't get out of bed for £50 ...it cost me £30 to start the van by the time i put a gallon of fuel in it ,petrol for the machine,coffee and a cake for breakfast.
You reckon £2000 a week at this time of year  :o . I am definitely doing something wrong . Do you think the smartseal website really puts people off....they only briefly glance at it.

Yes and that could be the problem, "they only briefly glance at it" because it look's like all the  smartseal sites the same nothing original, I have enough of them in my areas of work and they are no threat, people I quote for have said, that have found us via google, that they called/went with us because our site is original, not same ol same ol photos that smartseal sites troll out. Stand alone, be original and you'll move forward Chris.

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #30 on: July 28, 2013, 10:12:26 pm »
Hey Chris, j just checked out your domestic site and the block paving section has a step missing. It goes from spraying straight to brushing sand in. Missed out the pressure washing :-)

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #31 on: July 28, 2013, 10:23:37 pm »
Hey Chris, j just checked out your domestic site and the block paving section has a step missing. It goes from spraying straight to brushing sand in. Missed out the pressure washing :-)

Thats why i am getting no work then ;D
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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #32 on: July 28, 2013, 10:40:34 pm »
Hi there,
My wheelie bin cleaning business has about 6 days a week spare. Is it easy enough to use my Karcher pressure washer to do some pressure washing jobs or does it require a bit more experience/ equipment to do a proper job.
I don't have a website but have a door canvasser out every day.
Is it a simple case of asking the people with dirty/mossy driveways if they want them cleaned to get me business?

Roland S

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #33 on: July 28, 2013, 11:24:13 pm »
I wonder how many people will start pressure washing after reading all this talk about money.

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #34 on: July 29, 2013, 06:38:06 am »
Hey Chris, j just checked out your domestic site and the block paving section has a step missing. It goes from spraying straight to brushing sand in. Missed out the pressure washing :-)

Thats why i am getting no work then ;D
If you come across in real ife like you do in real life then its no wonder you get no work

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #35 on: July 29, 2013, 06:59:07 am »
Hey Chris, j just checked out your domestic site and the block paving section has a step missing. It goes from spraying straight to brushing sand in. Missed out the pressure washing :-)

Thats why i am getting no work then ;D
If you come across in real ife like you do in real life then its no wonder you get no work
Your obviously communicate better with your customers.
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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #36 on: July 29, 2013, 09:51:01 am »
I come across in real life like I am in real life too ;D

G O Cleaning

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #37 on: July 29, 2013, 09:59:58 am »
I wonder how many people will start pressure washing after reading all this talk about money.
i agree, Roger you target affluent areas inc London customers are prepared to pay over the top compared to other areas of the country, plus you have established check a trader which helps massively, users in our area are a hundred times lower than your area! Can't see a single op earning £400 per day in the majority of the country. But don't think this is the place to discuss earnings if it was a closed forum no prob, but on one hand guys are expressing high rates, holidays etc then we moan about wcs incorporating pressure washing as an add on. Can't have it both ways.

Roger Oakley

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #38 on: July 29, 2013, 05:20:56 pm »
I wonder how many people will start pressure washing after reading all this talk about money.
i agree, Roger you target affluent areas inc London customers are prepared to pay over the top compared to other areas of the country, plus you have established check a trader which helps massively, users in our area are a hundred times lower than your area! Can't see a single op earning £400 per day in the majority of the country. But don't think this is the place to discuss earnings if it was a closed forum no prob, but on one hand guys are expressing high rates, holidays etc then we moan about wcs incorporating pressure washing as an add on. Can't have it both ways.

Mike,
I wouldn't say my customers are paying over the top prices compared to other parts of the country. As far as CAT goes that thing is going down hill IMO could count on one hand the amount of calls we get in a month these days. What I did say was £1K a week is do-able that's £200 per day, which Chris want's to earn,which if you price by the square metre then what around 70-80 square metres, so to say you can double that isn't far from the truth if you then double the square meterage, so 140-160 square metres a day should be easy enough to do with the right kit.
Might have to spread that across 2 jobs, who knows. The add-on merchants will always be around as they think it is easy money, but anyone doing this job properly will say different.

Rob_Mac

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #39 on: July 29, 2013, 05:54:03 pm »
Chris

Get a CSCS card - 40 quid.

I will give you a day on one of my vans and we can move it forward from there.

There will be no man love though

Rob ;D

Rob_Mac

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #40 on: July 29, 2013, 05:59:53 pm »
Got to ask the question. If your other site is working, why the 'not earning' posts?.

You have a good stone restoration site - it doesn't add up

Is the second site not bringing any work in?.

What work is the Smartseal site bringing in?

Rob ;D

G O Cleaning

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #41 on: July 29, 2013, 06:40:25 pm »
I wonder how many people will start pressure washing after reading all this talk about money.
i agree, Roger you target affluent areas inc London customers are prepared to pay over the top compared to other areas of the country, plus you have established check a trader which helps massively, users in our area are a hundred times lower than your area! Can't see a single op earning £400 per day in the majority of the country. But don't think this is the place to discuss earnings if it was a closed forum no prob, but on one hand guys are expressing high rates, holidays etc then we moan about wcs incorporating pressure washing as an add on. Can't have it both ways.

Mike,
I wouldn't say my customers are paying over the top prices compared to other parts of the country.

Roger,
You have mentioned to me some of the prices you get for your 'roof top' cleans ! realistically you wont get near that outside of London, where I said 'over the top' its not that your charging over the top prices its simply they can afford to pay it - its simply nothing to them. For an example we completed Roof clean in Watford charged more than normal due to its location - customer paid top dollar plus roof coating, hedgehog guard, decking clean and Indian sandstone drive plus patios. NO question about price paid by bacs on completion of each stage.

Do you not think young chris maybe on a slight wind up   ::)roll

Rob_Mac

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #42 on: July 29, 2013, 06:45:16 pm »
I think he is on a constant wind up but he keeps coming back to not earning any money. Pattern emerging.

Rob ;D

Roger Oakley

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #43 on: July 29, 2013, 06:46:13 pm »
I wonder how many people will start pressure washing after reading all this talk about money.
i agree, Roger you target affluent areas inc London customers are prepared to pay over the top compared to other areas of the country, plus you have established check a trader which helps massively, users in our area are a hundred times lower than your area! Can't see a single op earning £400 per day in the majority of the country. But don't think this is the place to discuss earnings if it was a closed forum no prob, but on one hand guys are expressing high rates, holidays etc then we moan about wcs incorporating pressure washing as an add on. Can't have it both ways.

Mike,
I wouldn't say my customers are paying over the top prices compared to other parts of the country.

Roger,
You have mentioned to me some of the prices you get for your 'roof top' cleans ! realistically you wont get near that outside of London, where I said 'over the top' its not that your charging over the top prices its simply they can afford to pay it - its simply nothing to them. For an example we completed Roof clean in Watford charged more than normal due to its location - customer paid top dollar plus roof coating, hedgehog guard, decking clean and Indian sandstone drive plus patios. NO question about price paid by bacs on completion of each stage.

Do you not think young chris maybe on a slight wind up   ::)roll

We charge by the sq mt, same rate in London as any other areas we do, don't do postcode pricing so yes I do get the same rate wherever, customers have a choice take it or leave it.

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #44 on: July 29, 2013, 07:36:59 pm »
Chris,

You mentioned your retired. what did you do before that you retired from and you obviously made enough money to retire. so why the need for £1000 a week?

Serious question. not having a dig.

chris scott

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #45 on: July 29, 2013, 07:59:58 pm »
Chris

Get a CSCS card - 40 quid.

I will give you a day on one of my vans and we can move it forward from there.

There will be no man love though

Rob ;D
Rob
Thank you for the offer.I appriciate it but...I can do the work no problem I just can't get it.
Matt
I retired from working for companies , living in b&b's, generally being an industrial prostitute. I don't miss power stations,oil refinerys, night shifts,making sure my team of "specialists" make it to the job and not the jail , i don't miss the all important paperwork that can be mysteriously swept aside when the power stations only option is us or being shut down and filled with cement.
I like being at home every day (end) ,I like my girlfriend and not the next barmaid! I like the money that i am going to earn cleaning driveways...£1000 a  week  a bit of a pay cut but we all have to make sacrifices ;D I like Rob.
 
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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #46 on: July 29, 2013, 08:06:55 pm »
Be around like minded people. If I knew how to do the work but couldn't get the work I would get around the people that can get the work.

I would be asking the people who can get the work for their time, offering my labour for free, to see what they do differently.

I would be asking how, what, why,  methods, marketing, looking at their approach, people can see confidence and if YOU don't think you are going to get work when you are quoting then you wont get it.

Positive, positive, positive

Rob ;D

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #47 on: July 29, 2013, 08:20:24 pm »
Be around like minded people. If I knew how to do the work but couldn't get the work I would get around the people that can get the work.

I would be asking the people who can get the work for their time, offering my labour for free, to see what they do differently.

I would be asking how, what, why,  methods, marketing, looking at their approach, people can see confidence and if YOU don't think you are going to get work when you are quoting then you wont get it.

Positive, positive, positive

Rob ;D
How do you get your work Rob?
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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #48 on: July 29, 2013, 08:27:12 pm »
It comes to me.

I get a bit from the website but overall it is like Roger - recommendation.

I have got the CSCS & IPAF & SSSTS now so we fill the requirements that a lot of others wouldn't. Safe contractor is being done and I will be looking into CHAS once that is complete.

What you know about blasting I can use and it could be in both our interests but you have this 'not wanting to get your hands dirty attitude'

You do know your stuff mate and you probably have a lot to offer but if there's nothing coming in you have to get momentum  ;)

Rob ;D

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #49 on: July 29, 2013, 08:45:59 pm »
All my life "my hands have been dirty" ...blasting is not for me. I don't mind calcite etc but i am not interested in industrial blasting or cleaning for that matter.I get asked to do the odd jobs now and then but i definitely choose which ones i want .... if they interest me.
I spent six months with a TORC system cleaning angels an gargoyle's in Manooth ireland that was a good job.
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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #50 on: July 29, 2013, 08:47:56 pm »
Why are you promoting it then?

Who's is the kit mentioned on the stone cleaning site?

Rob ;D

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #51 on: July 29, 2013, 09:07:05 pm »
What did you do as a previous job working with all these refineries etc.. what was it you actually did?

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #52 on: July 29, 2013, 09:10:44 pm »
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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #53 on: July 29, 2013, 09:13:00 pm »
Why are you promoting it then?

Who's is the kit mentioned on the stone cleaning site?

Rob ;D
Hire it as and when.
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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #54 on: July 29, 2013, 09:17:11 pm »
driveways...£1000 a  week  a bit of a pay cut but we all have to make sacrifices Grin I like Rob.

I missed this bit ;D ;D ;D

Rob ;D

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #55 on: July 29, 2013, 09:32:36 pm »
Rob do you want to buy this from me..it would be a good start for your farrow system.Content would need to be changed to suit you.
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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #56 on: July 29, 2013, 09:44:42 pm »
Why didn't you buy the unhyphenated one - www.paintremoval.co.uk - was it not available?

I may be interested in the domain name, price dependent?

Rob ;D

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #57 on: July 29, 2013, 09:58:01 pm »
Why didn't you buy the unhyphenated one - www.paintremoval.co.uk - was it not available?

I may be interested in the domain name, price dependent?

Rob ;D
Google does not recognize hyphens but it does recognize the spacing of a paragraph or phrase in a search term.
When searching you would not type in paintremovalstoke you would type paint removal stoke.
So google would not"see" the hypens  in Paint-removal-stoke  it reads it as paint removal stoke....your search term.
Hence the spacing of the letters is what is important.
I think i have confused myself!  Try it 
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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #58 on: July 29, 2013, 10:14:00 pm »
How much do you want for the name?. The content I don't need.

Rob ;D

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #59 on: July 29, 2013, 10:18:54 pm »
1 weeks wages.

Get your website man to value it. It's a couple of years old with plenty of directory submissions etc attached to it.
I have  www.exterior-cleaning.co.uk ,  www. pressure-washer.co , www.steam-cleaning.co . These are all just Domains that i own no websites to them...
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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #60 on: July 29, 2013, 10:25:07 pm »
I have done a couple of searches and it ranks well.

See, part of what I think your problem is, the website, though it ranks well, is boring and I just didn't want to read it.

This is constructive - I wouldn't want to sell it.

Two searches and it is on page 1.

I will speak to my website company and ask them what it is worth.

It certainly isn't worth a weeks wages but if you want to go from tomorrow to next tuesday - I will give you that for it. Is that a deal?

Answer my question about soda on the Nearly........ thread

Rob ;D

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #61 on: July 29, 2013, 10:45:15 pm »
I did answer the question.Speak to Farrow see what they recommend.
"Y"  Split out of the comp one to the " farrow" pot and one to the "soda" pot ( you might have to fit an intercooler/moisture trap).
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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #62 on: August 02, 2013, 06:56:54 am »
Chris

I emailed them yesterday and the reply was not brilliant.

It doesn't seem to have any value. What do you think it is worth?

Rob ;D

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #63 on: August 02, 2013, 07:08:59 am »
Chris

I emailed them yesterday and the reply was not brilliant.

It doesn't seem to have any value. What do you think it is worth?

Rob ;D
No problem ..i will keep it. It costs me next to nothing and brings in some work. I will send you something you may wish to quote for ...add on 20% for me.

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #64 on: August 02, 2013, 07:17:07 am »
Fire it over. Thank you!

I am in Kent - pricing a Tesco this morning and am pricing a Waitrose on Monday (can't remember where that on is)

Rob ;D

Darranvps

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #65 on: August 02, 2013, 07:20:22 am »
Where in Kent are you

Hope you are near to me as the Tescos needs a good clean

Rob_Mac

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #66 on: August 02, 2013, 07:22:33 am »
Darren

Ramsgate at the moment, going over to Broadstairs

Rob ;D

Darranvps

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #67 on: August 02, 2013, 07:27:30 am »
Not a million miles away..............

I am in the office this morning writing up quotes and then off to sign up for our new unit.....................


Rob_Mac

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #68 on: August 02, 2013, 07:28:54 am »
I can meet you mate, if you want a coffee but I have to be back up north this afternoon

Rob ;D

Darranvps

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #69 on: August 02, 2013, 07:30:29 am »
By all means
My postcode is TN24 0FR
or meet up half way - call me

Rob_Mac

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #70 on: August 02, 2013, 07:33:13 am »
Darren

Why are all the train stations, Ebbsfleet (Ebbfleet?), Ashford and there's another on all international, is it because they let all the foreigners come in?

Rob ;D

Darranvps

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #71 on: August 02, 2013, 07:36:25 am »
That sounds about right Rob

They are the international gateways to the UK

Rob_Mac

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #72 on: August 02, 2013, 07:38:27 am »
I know you live near Ashford and grace that very nice Sainsbury's (that we cleaned) but Ashford never struck me as an international gateway ;D

I will call you later. Bit warmer down here than it is 'ooop north'

Rob ;D

Darranvps

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #73 on: August 02, 2013, 07:40:05 am »
That's why I moved here - for the weather

Just warming me up for my forthcoming holiday next week  ;D

Rob_Mac

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #74 on: August 02, 2013, 07:43:28 am »
You're the Peter Stringfellow of Bulgaria.

International playboy extraordinaire ;).

Anyone that has never met Darren - he wears Liberace outfits, full of diamantes and silver thread and has a entourage. It's true ;D

Rob ;D

Darranvps

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #75 on: August 02, 2013, 07:46:44 am »
You must be following me around when I am over there visiting all my clubs and girls......

Rob_Mac

Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #76 on: August 02, 2013, 07:48:24 am »
 ;D ;D ;D

Rob ;D

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #77 on: August 02, 2013, 10:00:00 am »
If Ashford AKA Bartertown is an International gateway whats Dover then because that really is a dump !

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #78 on: August 02, 2013, 10:06:30 am »
Two man enter....one man leave...

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Re: How much should i earn?
« Reply #79 on: August 02, 2013, 02:59:39 pm »
You know the law !