If Carlsberg built pressure washing vans?

« **on:** July 20, 2013, 10:55:10 pm »

Hello Gents,
If money was no object and you wanted to build the ultimate pressure washing 3.5t van, what would your build spec include?

Let me start....

1300 litre water tank.....
On board generator to power lights at night.....

« **Reply #1 on:** July 20, 2013, 11:08:52 pm »

Your over weight already.

« **Reply #2 on:** July 20, 2013, 11:35:21 pm »

Only if you carry the water to the job

« **Reply #3 on:** July 20, 2013, 11:36:53 pm »

What would be your ideal van set up Chris if you had out of hours commercial work to do?

« **Reply #4 on:** July 21, 2013, 08:12:37 am »

David

Your describing my Transit LWB

Rob

« **Reply #5 on:** July 21, 2013, 08:53:00 am »

Iveco dailey 5 tonner mwb semi high , registered as "plant" (no tacho, red diesel,cheap tax,no mot) .With heavy duty door runners! 205hp common rail. Maybe even with pto take off to drive pressure washer pump instead of pressure washer in van (200 nm of torque from the pto it will work a Hiab or a winch it should spin a HP pump) . Maybe something like this http://www.allpressuresprayersdirect.co.uk/hwb-hydraulic-pump-units-for-pressure-washers
1x http://www.malcleanse.co.uk/oertzen-500-bar-30-lpm-diesel-pressure-washer-d500-p-5993.html
1x http://www.malcleanse.co.uk/500-bar-oertzen-hot-box-oertzenhb500-p-6008.html
2x http://www.malcleanse.co.uk/21-530mm-oertzen-rotary-floor-cleaner-10800820-p-4529.html
1x http://www.jtpumps.co.uk/residox-400-230v-or-110v--manual-puddle--floor-sucker-367-p.asp
1x 5kva http://generator.kubota.jp/sq/index.html
2x http://www.joules.com/Sale/Women-Sale/Welly-Print/Womens-Welly/Pink?id=O_WELLYPRINT%7CPINKSPT
1 x http://www.coffeeitalia.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=fiorenzato-ducale
1x http://www.hopkins.biz/shop/budget-catering-equipment/displays-and-storage/pie-warmers-from-buffalo/?gclid=CLeCqLqNwLgCFRMctAodswsA7A

And some other stuff ,lances, hard hats etc and a machine for keeping donuts warm.

« **Reply #6 on:** July 21, 2013, 09:37:00 am »

Your overweight

The OP stated 3.5T.

Come on Chris - read the post

Rob

« **Reply #7 on:** July 21, 2013, 10:55:37 am »

Why bother with a 3.5 t if all you are doing is commercial? 5 tonners are cheaper ...nobody wants them.
It would all go in a 3.5 any way ..just the bowser would be a problem.

« **Reply #8 on:** July 21, 2013, 10:59:57 am »

Might be wrong here but after 97 3.5tonne is what most can drive without sitting another test.

I can't drive 5 tonne on my license. I can tow a combined weight of 5.5 tonne. Over 3.5 tonne you are on tacho anyway!!

Stay up to 3.5 tonne!

Rob

« **Reply #9 on:** July 21, 2013, 11:08:24 am »

Quote from: M-CLEAN UK LTD on July 21, 2013, 10:59:57 am

Might be wrong here but after 97 3.5tonne is what most can drive without sitting another test.

I can't drive 5 tonne on my license. I can tow a combined weight of 5.5 tonne. Over 3.5 tonne you are on tacho anyway!!

Stay up to 3.5 tonne!

Rob

Not if it's plant.
Same with tractors ,16 year olds on there mobile ,L plates on , in Dads jcb fast trac towing a trailer with a 20 excavator on the back...all very legal.
The weight of your 4x4 and Farrow system is what ? Tacho?

« **Reply #10 on:** July 21, 2013, 11:17:58 am »

Oh god

- despite your onesie wearing I agree with you again.

I am going to attempt to set one of my vehicles up as plant. Give me a link Christophe.

Rob

« **Reply #11 on:** July 21, 2013, 11:39:35 am »

It is a mine field and Vosa don't give you any real advice since they have been privatised! it will take me a little time but will research it for you so you are well educated when you apply for exemption.
Read these to start with.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/made
http://www.rha.uk.net/services/recovery/news/content/12311/hgv_mot_testing_exemptions paragrah 6.4
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/HGV%20Tachograph%20Exemption%20Declaration%20Form.pdf paragraph 4
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca/additional/files/enforcement-and-research-activities/secure-registration/n2-n3-transition.pdf (Iveco,s have a proper chassis)
Love you xxx

« **Reply #12 on:** July 21, 2013, 12:02:06 pm »

Are you on this course on the 22nd?

Rob

« **Reply #13 on:** July 21, 2013, 12:48:33 pm »

Quote from: M-CLEAN UK LTD on July 21, 2013, 12:02:06 pm

Are you on this course on the 22nd?

Rob

what next, you will be asking if you can share a room with him

« **Reply #14 on:** July 21, 2013, 03:21:39 pm »

Quote from: M-CLEAN UK LTD on July 21, 2013, 12:02:06 pm

Are you on this course on the 22nd?

Rob

Depends if it's my giro week..might not have the diesel money otherwise.

Why have they found a place big enough to accommodate Rhinoman and Reece's ego's?

I have received my free "signing up gift" which to be fair was quite interesting. I am always up for learning and I do feel i could benefit from attending. ..as i really dont have a clue how to run a business .
The people who are running it are top class and am fully conversant with their products and techniques...they have a lot to bring too the party So yes i will be attending.
Are you picking me up? i don,t think my van will make it that far!

« **Reply #15 on:** July 21, 2013, 04:59:17 pm »

what signing up gift did you receive chris, was it the cleaning manual or something different that I should expect

« **Reply #16 on:** July 21, 2013, 06:09:32 pm »

Quote from: M-CLEAN UK LTD on July 21, 2013, 08:12:37 am

David

Your describing my Transit LWB

Rob

What's your set up.........please tell.

« **Reply #17 on:** July 21, 2013, 06:12:04 pm »

Quote from: chris scott on July 21, 2013, 08:53:00 am

Iveco dailey 5 tonner mwb semi high , registered as "plant" (no tacho, red diesel,cheap tax,no mot) .With heavy duty door runners! 205hp common rail. Maybe even with pto take off to drive pressure washer pump instead of pressure washer in van (200 nm of torque from the pto it will work a Hiab or a winch it should spin a HP pump) . Maybe something like this http://www.allpressuresprayersdirect.co.uk/hwb-hydraulic-pump-units-for-pressure-washers
1x http://www.malcleanse.co.uk/oertzen-500-bar-30-lpm-diesel-pressure-washer-d500-p-5993.html
1x http://www.malcleanse.co.uk/500-bar-oertzen-hot-box-oertzenhb500-p-6008.html
2x http://www.malcleanse.co.uk/21-530mm-oertzen-rotary-floor-cleaner-10800820-p-4529.html
1x http://www.jtpumps.co.uk/residox-400-230v-or-110v--manual-puddle--floor-sucker-367-p.asp
1x 5kva http://generator.kubota.jp/sq/index.html
2x http://www.joules.com/Sale/Women-Sale/Welly-Print/Womens-Welly/Pink?id=O_WELLYPRINT%7CPINKSPT
1 x http://www.coffeeitalia.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=fiorenzato-ducale
1x http://www.hopkins.biz/shop/budget-catering-equipment/displays-and-storage/pie-warmers-from-buffalo/?gclid=CLeCqLqNwLgCFRMctAodswsA7A

And some other stuff ,lances, hard hats etc and a machine for keeping donuts warm.

Hello Chris,

Pie warmer and pink wellies, like your style. Never thought of a 5 tonner. I will be scanning Ebay & Autotrader later. Is 500 bar needed? Great machine but very expensive........only if I had the cash.

« **Reply #18 on:** July 21, 2013, 06:19:40 pm »

I have a Hot & Mighty (imported by Roger - on here) upgraded to a 35LPM pump, twin outlet, two cox reels on a shelf, with 100 metre one inch hose underneath, by the back doors. 1400 litre tank between drivers cab & machine.

Exhausted both the burner & exhaust through the roof. It is just a pleasure to use.

Rob

« **Reply #19 on:** July 21, 2013, 06:42:07 pm »

Have looked at the H&M machines on Ebay, they do look very good. Have you got any pics of your van?

« **Reply #20 on:** July 21, 2013, 07:03:01 pm »

« **Reply #21 on:** July 21, 2013, 07:33:35 pm »

Looks proper smart. Looks a beast of a machine.

« **Reply #22 on:** July 21, 2013, 07:40:15 pm »

Just see the tank in this one

There you go. Changed the hose reel on the left hand side for one that will hold 120 metres and as I said underneath the shelf 1 x 100 metre 1 inch hose reel. I think Lee has just bought one

Rob

« **Reply #23 on:** July 21, 2013, 08:12:23 pm »

The machine in the back of my van has "made in England" cast on the pump

« **Reply #24 on:** July 21, 2013, 08:21:53 pm »

OOOOhhhhhhh Carl.

We've had this one before. I love the yanks

They are more broke than we are as a country but are not bright enough to see that their economy is knackered, see
Detroit.

You will notice from recent posts I like to support those that are challenged

Rob

« **Reply #25 on:** July 21, 2013, 08:29:27 pm »

Do you mean reversed ?

« **Reply #26 on:** July 21, 2013, 08:33:59 pm »

My support is international.

If I could have bought English for the price I paid for the H & M I would have done, as you will remember I got it second hand from Roger and at the time I would not have been able to buy the similar one from Tech-clean.

Rob

« **Reply #27 on:** July 21, 2013, 08:46:14 pm »

Personally I would not buy from them unless I really had to - I don't feel a member of staff is entirely honest with me.

« **Reply #28 on:** July 21, 2013, 08:53:48 pm »

I did get one Rob, quality! Got about 110m on it at the moment.

« **Reply #29 on:** July 21, 2013, 08:55:39 pm »

Have you built a reducer mate to fit onto a 15mm supply, if you need to?

Rob

« **Reply #30 on:** July 21, 2013, 09:01:22 pm »

[quote author=David Wrightson link=to

Hello Chris,

Pie warmer and pink wellies, like your style. Never thought of a 5 tonner. I will be scanning Ebay & Autotrader later. Is 500 bar needed? Great machine but very expensive........only if I had the cash.

[/quote]
You said money was no problem!
I would run 2 small machines independent and not fitted into a van.
Interpump ws252 are the weapons of choice there is no need for anything bigger.
http://www.hartindustrialtools.co.uk/acatalog/2100-SERIES-25T.html or http://www.hatzgb.co.uk/hatz-gb-air-cooled-diesel-engines.html g series. K series unloaders.
http://www.allpressuresprayersdirect.co.uk/wheeled-trolleys

« **Reply #31 on:** July 21, 2013, 09:07:20 pm »

I've missed you today Chris

Rob

« **Reply #32 on:** July 21, 2013, 09:07:31 pm »

Quote from: M-CLEAN UK LTD on July 21, 2013, 08:55:39 pm

Have you built a reducer mate to fit onto a 15mm supply, if you need to?

Rob

I'll take a pic tomorrow mate

« **Reply #33 on:** July 21, 2013, 09:08:37 pm »

Is it on the trailer?

Rob

« **Reply #34 on:** July 21, 2013, 09:10:19 pm »

Quote from: M-CLEAN UK LTD on July 21, 2013, 09:08:37 pm

Is it on the trailer?

Rob

Is what on mate?

« **Reply #35 on:** July 21, 2013, 09:11:28 pm »

Of coarse you have told your insurance you have"modified" your van

« **Reply #36 on:** July 21, 2013, 09:12:56 pm »

The hose reel mate

Chris - my insurers are aware of all my vehicles and any modifications

Rob

« **Reply #37 on:** July 21, 2013, 09:19:49 pm »

Well it will be mate. At the moment the flatbed trailer has nothing on it. The Falch T3H has had some rewiring done and works great and gets really hot. That's getting mounted this week on the trailer then the big reel will go on along with a cox reel I had sent over from Ultimate Washers.

« **Reply #38 on:** July 21, 2013, 09:20:20 pm »

I would send the TW*TS a picture too so they full understand what the are insuring and who did the modifications...never trust insurance companies! They just say yes and take your money.

« **Reply #39 on:** July 21, 2013, 09:45:34 pm »

How about one of these.........
http://www.hotandmightydirect.com/products/hot-water-pressure-washer-slider-mcs-3506

« **Reply #40 on:** July 21, 2013, 09:48:03 pm »

Or this.....
http://www.tech-clean.co.uk/index.php/products/industrial-hot-pressure-washer-skid-mounted-hot-pressure-washers/

« **Reply #41 on:** July 21, 2013, 09:51:35 pm »

That is similar to mine.

Difference is mine is a 24HP engine and 35LPM. I was going to go for a 45 LPM pump but left it a little tight on the heater

Rob

« **Reply #42 on:** July 21, 2013, 10:22:41 pm »

The jetter in my van sits on a pair of rails - take the exhaust off, two bolts and the whole shooting match lifts out. This is done every year to service and clean it - if it breaks down a loan machine would slide in to keep me working

« **Reply #43 on:** July 21, 2013, 10:35:50 pm »

Quote from: David Wrightson on July 21, 2013, 09:48:03 pm

Or this.....
http://www.tech-clean.co.uk/index.php/products/industrial-hot-pressure-washer-skid-mounted-hot-pressure-washers/

250 bar at 21lpm *** from***£8000+vat Expensive!
14 Briggs ,ws252,gearbox,hotbox, whirl a way £2900 incl
I rarely use heat but the hot box ...gives me the option. Two machines will put 250 bar at 42lpm on the floor plus you always have a spare machine if the sh** hits the fan you can get the job finished albeit slower. 4 Hoses split into 10m sections so always have a spare. Weight is around 100kgs per machine .1000 litre ibc 50% full and two machines with hoses etc ,driver etc should be near limit.Taking into account the van will be 2000kgs.

« **Reply #44 on:** July 21, 2013, 11:26:17 pm »

Quote from: David Wrightson on July 21, 2013, 09:48:03 pm

Or this.....
http://www.tech-clean.co.uk/index.php/products/industrial-hot-pressure-washer-skid-mounted-hot-pressure-washers/

Cheaper version to the H&M, nothing wrong with that, except when you start putting this kind of kit on a trailer weight will become an issue, which has been spoken about before on here. Van mount is a better way to go, just check that you are legal, Chris will no doubt tell you the do's & don'ts though, and NO it is not another dig at you Chris, just that you like to help people that can't be bothered to do the research for themselves

« **Reply #45 on:** July 22, 2013, 12:36:39 pm »

Roger you were a haulage industry big hitter before you retired into deck chair refurbs

« **Reply #46 on:** July 22, 2013, 01:14:34 pm »

Quote from: BDCS on July 22, 2013, 12:36:39 pm

deck chair refurbs

« **Reply #47 on:** July 22, 2013, 05:34:03 pm »

Quote from: BDCS on July 22, 2013, 12:36:39 pm

Roger you were a haulage industry big hitter before you retired into deck chair refurbs

At one time, Carl, but used to put events together and have class 1 so would haul the things around europe when needed.

« **Reply #48 on:** July 22, 2013, 10:00:37 pm »

That was my point

« **Reply #49 on:** July 23, 2013, 02:08:24 pm »

The van set up ive got now is my perfect set up.. simples..

« **Reply #50 on:** July 23, 2013, 07:11:44 pm »

Go on then......what's the spec >:

« **Reply #51 on:** July 23, 2013, 08:13:11 pm »

Seen as though people are whipping their c**ks out.

Falch T3H. 21lpm @300 bar. Twin burner. F***in' hot!

« **Reply #52 on:** July 23, 2013, 08:19:54 pm »

No competition

« **Reply #53 on:** July 23, 2013, 08:23:23 pm »

Just debating whether to buff the hood or just get it carbon vinyl wrapped.

« **Reply #54 on:** July 23, 2013, 09:34:44 pm »

What spec is that pump? I think I have 2 of them in my shed, do you know the cost of them so I know the worth of mine

« **Reply #55 on:** July 23, 2013, 11:54:56 pm »

Quote from: Mike Halliday on July 23, 2013, 09:34:44 pm

What spec is that pump? I think I have 2 of them in my shed, do you know the cost of them so I know the worth of mine

I don't know the price mate. But here's a link http://www.malcleanse.co.uk/speck-300-bar-21-lpm-pressure-washer-pump-np2521300-p-4108.html

« **Reply #56 on:** July 24, 2013, 06:09:16 am »

Lee noticed on your facebook you said 30lpm 500 bar, was that a dif m/c ?
On your vid the skater wasnt removing gum did you still hav to spot ?

« **Reply #57 on:** July 24, 2013, 06:21:42 am »

Quote from: David Wrightson on July 23, 2013, 07:11:44 pm

Go on then......what's the spec >:

24hp Lombardini. Burner. Built in genny. Smallish tank. Shelving. Extra room for steamer/whatever. Trailer @ 30lpm run from a briggs and stratton petrol for any second jobs/bigger jobs.

Going to put a hotbox on the trailer for gum removal, and then maybe change it to lpg then ill have everything i want.

« **Reply #58 on:** July 24, 2013, 08:25:17 am »

Quote from: Blast Away on July 23, 2013, 08:13:11 pm

Seen as though people are whipping their c**ks out.

Falch T3H. 21lpm @300 bar. Twin burner. F***in' hot!

How do you walk about with that between your legs Lee

« **Reply #59 on:** July 24, 2013, 08:28:48 am »

Quote from: Great Outdoors and In on July 24, 2013, 06:09:16 am

Lee noticed on your facebook you said 30lpm 500 bar, was that a dif m/c ?
On your vid the skater wasnt removing gum did you still hav to spot ?

Different machine mate yes. Not ours. We're doing all Manchester city centre public paving 5 nights a week for a national company and they've supplied us with 1 of 8 of their machines.

This one here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N19D3GlkVoc

It's not supposed to take the gum off too mate. Still need to spot gum. The way we work is scate at 500 bar on heat 100c max(really fast!!!), then split to 2 lances 15 each and rinse and spot gum. Currently cleaning King St in town.

« **Reply #60 on:** July 24, 2013, 08:30:46 am »

Gonna mount it this morning Trev on the trailer at pauls. Hook the trailer up to one of my balls and drag!

« **Reply #61 on:** July 24, 2013, 08:34:25 am »

Mike, this is the video you seen of the 500 bar scating https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTkk8CPmpNE

Sound is crap as the microphone is goosed on my phone.

« **Reply #62 on:** July 24, 2013, 10:03:16 am »

Quote from: Blast Away on July 24, 2013, 08:28:48 am

Quote from: Great Outdoors and In on July 24, 2013, 06:09:16 am
Lee noticed on your facebook you said 30lpm 500 bar, was that a dif m/c ?
On your vid the skater wasnt removing gum did you still hav to spot ?

Different machine mate yes. Not ours. We're doing all Manchester city centre public paving 5 nights a week for a national company and they've supplied us with 1 of 8 of their machines.

This one here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N19D3GlkVoc

It's not supposed to take the gum off too mate. Still need to spot gum. The way we work is scate at 500 bar on heat 100c max(really fast!!!), then split to 2 lances 15 each and rinse and spot gum. Currently cleaning King St in town.

nice one

« **Reply #63 on:** July 31, 2013, 08:21:24 am »

Just an update on my thoughts about my planned pressure wash van. This is with a budget of under £9k not including the van. Please feel free to add your thoughts.

Base Vehicle.......Mercedes Sprinter 513 LWB
PW Engine .......Lombardini 2204 4 cylinder diesel
Two 650 Litre water tanks. One for pure (if needed) & one for hydrant water.
Interpump 40lpm 3000psi Twin Operator. Belt Driven.
Two x 21 Litre diesel fired boilers.
Two x 90m high pressure hose reels with quick connect lances
Low pressure hose reel 50 meter. To fill from hydrants.
Adjustable pressure control.
Adjustable temp control for boilers.
Large capacity diesel tank.
Antifreeze system.
240v 2.4kva generator.
4040 RO & Di for pure water.
Booster pump for fast Hydrant fills.

or one of these....

http://www.falch.com/products/catalog/product/view/id/1285/s/t5h-um79744/category/201000000/

or one of these....

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/aston-martin/db9-coupe/aston-martin-db9-v12-auto-low-miles-and-low-owners-54reg/1567602