Who is the Daddy

« **on:** March 06, 2013, 04:25:17 pm »

Hi

Looking for someone to set some questions on the forthcoming quiz! So who is the Pressure Washer King?

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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« **Reply #1 on:** March 06, 2013, 04:28:50 pm »

Drive surgeon gets my vote

No points for guessing who wouldn't

« **Reply #2 on:** March 06, 2013, 05:08:16 pm »

I don't know but Richy leek is the new hypo king!

« **Reply #3 on:** March 06, 2013, 08:48:19 pm »

Richey Leak - Fling it here, fling it there and if your standing near you'll get your share

« **Reply #4 on:** March 06, 2013, 09:06:36 pm »

Quote from: BDCS on March 06, 2013, 08:48:19 pm

Richey Leak - Fling it here, fling it there and if your standing near you'll get your share

« **Reply #5 on:** March 07, 2013, 11:01:30 am »

Quote from: Blast Away on March 06, 2013, 09:06:36 pm

Quote from: BDCS on March 06, 2013, 08:48:19 pm
Richey Leak - Fling it here, fling it there and if your standing near you'll get your share

« **Reply #6 on:** March 07, 2013, 11:02:19 am »

We are planning a Monthly CIU Quiz which is intended not to be easy! The quiz will cover questions on Hard Floor Cleaning, Carpet Cleaning, Window Cleaning and Pressure Washing amongst other things. Rather than me set all the questions I am asking for Professionals in their field to set a few questions on their specific field of Expertise! Simples!

So which one of you specialists is going to send me 4 or 5 questions? to:

tilinglogistics@hotmail.com

You get credited with the questions (Free Advertising) and I guarantee the prize will be worth winning! You are also welcome to sponsor a prize if you want!

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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« **Reply #7 on:** March 07, 2013, 06:26:54 pm »

Kevin. Apparently i'm an annoying tit who disagrees with the majority of people on here. I consider my replys to posts to be correct and based on fact. My question is this ...given my answer is always correct but the majority on here disagree with me how will you mark the quiz?

« **Reply #8 on:** March 07, 2013, 08:01:43 pm »

Chris you won't win the quiz if my question is included.

Q. Is it ok to use a turbo nozzle on block paving?

« **Reply #9 on:** March 07, 2013, 08:17:58 pm »

Or "Is it okay to re-join hoses?"

« **Reply #10 on:** March 07, 2013, 08:20:15 pm »

Or " find 5 deliberate mistakes in this picture ".

« **Reply #11 on:** March 07, 2013, 08:24:57 pm »

Or "You have a supply providing 15lpm .The machine you are using requires 30lpm...how much block paving can you clean with your 0.75 turbo nozzle at 3150psi?
Answers on a post code please or phone 09071234567 all callls will be charged a t 3 grand per minute and mobiles might me significantly higher.

« **Reply #12 on:** March 08, 2013, 05:38:21 am »

Quote from: chris scott on March 07, 2013, 06:26:54 pm

Kevin. Apparently i'm an annoying tit who disagrees with the majority of people on here. I consider my replys to posts to be correct and based on fact. My question is this ...given my answer is always correct but the majority on here disagree with me how will you mark the quiz?

Chris

I don't care whether people join in the quiz or not! I don't care if people don't send me questions and I don't care who joins in the quiz. I am not doing this for me I am doing it to help others gain some knowledge.
So you may be an annoying tit who thinks he is always right but regarding the quiz answers, the answers I have will be final

Kevin Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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« **Reply #13 on:** March 08, 2013, 09:38:19 am »

Well put !

« **Reply #14 on:** March 12, 2013, 05:30:43 pm »

Quote from: Kevin Martin on March 07, 2013, 11:02:19 am

We are planning a Monthly CIU Quiz which is intended not to be easy! The quiz will cover questions on Hard Floor Cleaning, Carpet Cleaning, Window Cleaning and Pressure Washing amongst other things. Rather than me set all the questions I am asking for Professionals in their field to set a few questions on their specific field of Expertise! Simples!

So which one of you specialists is going to send me 4 or 5 questions? to:

tilinglogistics@hotmail.com

You get credited with the questions (Free Advertising) and I guarantee the prize will be worth winning! You are also welcome to sponsor a prize if you want!

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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hi kevin
so who are you getting to do the hard floor questions then

john

« **Reply #15 on:** March 12, 2013, 05:57:17 pm »

I bet I can guess answers before I know the questions
1 survey
2 acid test
3 aqua mix
4 dwell time
5 neutralise
6 topical
& permeable

« **Reply #16 on:** March 12, 2013, 09:05:48 pm »

« **Reply #17 on:** March 12, 2013, 09:48:54 pm »

Quote from: BDCS on March 12, 2013, 05:57:17 pm

I bet I can guess answers before I know the questions
1 survey
2 acid test
3 aqua mix
4 dwell time
5 neutralise
6 topical
& permeable

It must be your crystal ball working overtime Leonora

Because I have decided not to bother!

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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« **Reply #18 on:** March 12, 2013, 09:59:00 pm »

Quitters never win, winners never quit

Rob

« **Reply #19 on:** March 12, 2013, 11:24:20 pm »

But we'll never know who the winner is now

Kevin, Indian sandstone - will you post a link to a suitable sealer for outside. I know I won't seal anymore but its for the outlaws. Please.

« **Reply #20 on:** March 13, 2013, 06:55:20 am »

Quote from: BDCS on March 12, 2013, 11:24:20 pm

But we'll never know who the winner is now
Kevin, Indian sandstone - will you post a link to a suitable sealer for outside. I know I won't seal anymore but its for the outlaws. Please.

Teflon,
Invisible, breathable (imperative for sandstone as it percolates moisture from the substrate) , adheres by impregnation so no delamination ,No more fading or peeling as the coating becomes aged. ,
Water based because sand stone does not dry out enough to apply solvents ( outside), hydrophobic, oleophobic, Tested for 5 year wear life on horizontal surfaces (10 years on vertical), high spread ratio's, Areas can be used straight away (although it takes 24hours to cure) Paint ,felt Tip ,chewing gum etc, is easily cleaned from the surface.(look how easy your Teflon frying pan cleans up!......i could go on.

My mate makes it in the shed at the back of his house with products from some Italian outfit.
It's cheap as well!!!

« **Reply #21 on:** March 13, 2013, 08:02:03 am »

Quote from: BDCS on March 12, 2013, 11:24:20 pm

Indian sandstone - will you post a link to a suitable sealer for outside. I know I won't seal anymore but its for the outlaws. Please.

Lithofin Stain Stop, or Stain Stop Plus both impregnators excellent on Sandstone.

« **Reply #22 on:** March 13, 2013, 08:20:27 am »

No waffle there Roger

As always!!

Rob

« **Reply #23 on:** March 13, 2013, 01:33:13 pm »

Quote from: M-CLEAN UK LTD on March 13, 2013, 08:20:27 am

No waffle there Roger

As always!!

Rob

Rob i applogise for my "waffling". Like you keep telling me i should shut up listen and learn from the pro's on here. Up to now Roger would never "share" his secrets with me which is fair enough. As for me i like to share things,my chocolate ,my advice,my girlfriend....

Heavly used surfaces coated with alkoxysilanes (Lithofin Stain Stop "type" products) are recomend/ need to be recoated every 12 months....half the reason most of use shy away from using acrylics (in general not on sandstone).

« **Reply #24 on:** March 13, 2013, 01:46:28 pm »

Don't apologise for waffling. Don't take everything personally!

Rob

« **Reply #25 on:** March 13, 2013, 02:25:36 pm »

Quote from: M-CLEAN UK LTD on March 13, 2013, 01:46:28 pm

Don't apologise for waffling. Don't take everything personally!

Rob

Sometime i wonder if people really understand what i am going on about for instance the above post regarding sandstone sealers.... Maybe i need to explain my self better so it's not interpreted as waffle. Rob do you understand my reasoning regarding the sandstone?

« **Reply #26 on:** March 13, 2013, 02:46:44 pm »

Quote from: chris scott on March 13, 2013, 01:33:13 pm

Quote from: M-CLEAN UK LTD on March 13, 2013, 08:20:27 am
No waffle there Roger

As always!!

Rob
Rob i applogise for my "waffling". Like you keep telling me i should shut up listen and learn from the pro's on here. Up to now Roger would never "share" his secrets with me which is fair enough. As for me i like to share things,my chocolate ,my advice,my girlfriend....
Heavly used surfaces coated with alkoxysilanes (Lithofin Stain Stop "type" products) are recomend/ need to be recoated every 12 months....half the reason most of use shy away from using acrylics (in general not on sandstone).

Lithofin isn't an acrylic if that is what you are trying to say?

« **Reply #27 on:** March 13, 2013, 02:59:23 pm »

Don't recall saying it was.

« **Reply #28 on:** March 13, 2013, 03:21:42 pm »

Quote from: chris scott on March 13, 2013, 02:59:23 pm

Don't recall saying it was.

Couldn't tell from your earlier answer if that is what you were saying.

« **Reply #29 on:** March 13, 2013, 03:57:32 pm »

I said "Heavly used surfaces coated with alkoxysilanes are recomend/ need to be recoated every 12 months....half the reason most of use shy away from using acrylics (in general not on sandstone)."

« **Reply #30 on:** March 13, 2013, 04:15:28 pm »

Chris

Roger just gave a very succint and to the point answer

Rob

« **Reply #31 on:** March 13, 2013, 06:56:29 pm »

So did I .

« **Reply #32 on:** March 13, 2013, 07:07:49 pm »

That is possibly open to debate!. Please don't go around the houses with a response

Rob

« **Reply #33 on:** March 13, 2013, 07:14:42 pm »

As you are moving into the domestic market you really need to be familiar with the products you will be pouring over grannies patio .
I merely provide you will all the information to make an informed choice. Sometimes it can take a paragraph or two of "waffle"

Did you comprehend what i was explaining...sometimes i confuse myself although this is easily done now i am retired !!

« **Reply #34 on:** March 13, 2013, 07:18:03 pm »

Rogers was clearer.

Good luck in retirement - what will you do with yourself?

Rob

« **Reply #35 on:** March 13, 2013, 07:20:43 pm »

I retired when i was 37 . I thought i would do it while i was old enough enjoy it.

« **Reply #36 on:** March 13, 2013, 07:48:55 pm »

Is your retirement working out because you keep saying you have no work - Isn't the right way to have enough put aside for retirement and anything you make on top of that is a bonus.

When I retire I wont be coming on here!

Rob

« **Reply #37 on:** March 13, 2013, 07:57:05 pm »

Quote from: M-CLEAN UK LTD on March 13, 2013, 07:48:55 pm

Is your retirement working out because you keep saying you have no work - Isn't the right way to have enough put aside for retirement and anything you make on top of that is a bonus.

When I retire I wont be coming on here!

Rob

Got to keep my self in hookers and crack cocaine somehow . I come on here for an interesting debate with like minded people .Maybe to impart a little knowledge aand also to learn off the professionals.
You are entering into my domain now .You are "travelling" the country looking for work in afflent areas and moving into cleaning grannies patio's.
I can advise you on the type of caravan to buy .You will also need black and white gypsy cobs to go with your pick up and horse box.

« **Reply #38 on:** March 13, 2013, 08:06:04 pm »

If I was to tow a caravan it would be something that did not look like a charabang.

My new towing vehicle, bought last week - more for personal use needs a top of the range caravan.

Rob

« **Reply #39 on:** March 13, 2013, 08:09:43 pm »

The only caravan to have...http://www.romacaravans.com/

« **Reply #40 on:** March 13, 2013, 08:20:49 pm »

I looked at one of these last week - they are s**t - all mirrors & chrome

Rob

« **Reply #41 on:** March 13, 2013, 08:26:47 pm »

Quote from: M-CLEAN UK LTD on March 13, 2013, 08:20:49 pm

I looked at one of these last week - they are s**t - all mirrors & chrome

Rob

Did you view the correct website?

« **Reply #42 on:** March 13, 2013, 08:34:24 pm »

Looking at your website - on the garage floor sealing page - is that you in the wide jeans???

Rob

« **Reply #43 on:** March 13, 2013, 08:37:19 pm »

Don't know him ...Smartseal provided all the pics and text.

« **Reply #44 on:** March 13, 2013, 08:39:13 pm »

I wont be wanting a Smartseal website.

How old are you Chris?

Rob

« **Reply #45 on:** March 13, 2013, 08:41:20 pm »

« **Reply #46 on:** March 13, 2013, 08:42:51 pm »

We could be twins Chris. Same attitude, working principles, go getters - I just need to work out what I have done wrong that I am not already retired!

Rob

« **Reply #47 on:** March 13, 2013, 08:50:51 pm »

Why have you done anything wrong?
You are fit ,healthy ,
Possibily a beautiful wife/kids/boyfriend ?
You seem to have a sense of humor,
A new pick up,
You have the machineary to knock a couple of doors tommorrow and get enough money to feed the family.
Whats wrong with that ...what more do you really need?

« **Reply #48 on:** March 13, 2013, 08:53:45 pm »

Boyfriend, boyfriend - I don't mind what anyone gets up to but that isn't for me Chris!!!

Retirement!

Rob

« **Reply #49 on:** March 13, 2013, 09:06:54 pm »

Sorry you just have to be open minded sometimes. I have two gay couples that i clean for money is no object ,never try to chip on on price ..don't knock the pink pound thats what i say.
Maybe there is a site to advertise www.Get-a gay.com Vetted contractors for the gay community.

Lancashire council do a site called safetrader (i think it's called that) a lot of older people use it as it is run by the trading standards from what i recall.
It MIGHT be a better investment for your advertising budjet if there is a similar scheme near to you.
I think it was relatively cheap/free to join .

« **Reply #50 on:** March 13, 2013, 09:10:09 pm »

I cleaned the Sainsbury's at Southport and I believe there is a bit of money up your way. I may well do a leaflet campaign around your town!

Rob

« **Reply #51 on:** March 13, 2013, 09:13:46 pm »

I can put you in touch with my "leaflet lady" £30 per thousand , local printer will do 40,000 leaflet for £410 single side full colour.
Plenty of big houses and gays in Southport.

« **Reply #52 on:** March 13, 2013, 09:17:09 pm »

How many are you putting out, what return are you getting?

Rob

« **Reply #53 on:** March 13, 2013, 09:24:51 pm »

10,000 a month , get about 3 jobs per thousand spring ,2 per thou summer (rough guide) You will then get one job "in the street" from word of mouth/family/passing trade/neighbour.
Please bear in mind there is no science to this...these are very rough averages.

« **Reply #54 on:** March 13, 2013, 09:28:00 pm »

Are they all Smartseal leaflets as well?

Rob

« **Reply #55 on:** March 13, 2013, 09:32:15 pm »

No smartseal on the leaflets. I dont promote the use of acrylic sealers . If smartseal send me a lead and the customer requests it i will use it.
Same applies to Pics, Resiblock, Advanced sealing solutions. I am also an "approved contractor" for all of these companies as well.

« **Reply #56 on:** March 13, 2013, 09:38:06 pm »

Why did you go with that route - I am interested because (and I am not trying to fall out) the website is not brilliant and you are restricted to their products.

My website was possibly the same price and I can change it when I want, use whatever equipment and or products I want.

Do you have google analytics set up on it - do you know how it is working for you, what searches people are putting in when on the site, where they are going, how long they are on there, page views etc.

Rob

« **Reply #57 on:** March 13, 2013, 09:48:36 pm »

Quote from: M-CLEAN UK LTD on March 13, 2013, 09:38:06 pm

Why did you go with that route - I am interested because (and I am not trying to fall out) the website is not brilliant and you are restricted to their products.

My website was possibly the same price and I can change it when I want, use whatever equipment and or products I want.

Do you have google analytics set up on it - do you know how it is working for you, what searches people are putting in when on the site, where they are going, how long they are on there, page views etc.

Rob

The website is not "technically " brilliant but smart seal do a very good job on the SEO etc and its'ok for granny who needs her patio cleaning. It has pretty pics something to read and contact details.....i'm not trying to sell rolls royces!!!
I like you can choose what product and equipment i use. I am a fair man and if Smartseal give me a lead i would use there products.
On average the site receives 5000/6000 hits per month but as i have said these figures are all pretty meaningless....it's jobs that count.

« **Reply #58 on:** March 13, 2013, 09:55:28 pm »

I don't believe that you are getting 5/6000 hits per month and not managing to convert some of those into sales.

Where does that figure come from?

Rob

« **Reply #59 on:** March 13, 2013, 09:57:18 pm »

Affiliate Stats

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Mar 13   3727   4198   0   £0.00   £0.00
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Feb 13   8258   11116   0   £0.00   £0.00
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Jan 13   11952   17337   0   £0.00   £0.00
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Dec 12   7735   9623   0   £0.00   £0.00
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Nov 12   7834   10254   0   £0.00   £0.00
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Oct 12   8459   11487   1   £230.22   £0.00
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Sep 12   7135   10006   0   £0.00   £0.00
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Aug 12   6590   9814   0   £0.00   £0.00
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Jul 12   7060   11228   0   £0.00   £0.00
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Jun 12   6571   11734   0   £0.00   £0.00
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May 12   9184   12745   0   £0.00   £0.00
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Apr 12   7554   11408   0   £0.00   £0.00
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Total   92059   130950   1   £230.22   £0.00

To find out more, click on a month to view daily visitor & page view stats and click on a 'View Orders' link to see sales for that respective month.

Visitors - counted once per visitor session.
Page views - number of pages viewed.
Orders - number of completed orders.
Value - total value of completed orders.
Commission - how much commission you have earned.

« **Reply #60 on:** March 13, 2013, 10:00:29 pm »

You had 93000 visitors (approx) and had sales of £232.00.

There is no way that you are getting so many hits. Those figures are being manipulated by someone along the way or you should be a bloody millionaire!!

Rob

« **Reply #61 on:** March 13, 2013, 10:08:12 pm »

In the last month blast-away.co.uk got 1,262 visits. 1,008 were unique visitors. 3,244 page views.

Strange how your site is configured to hidden on the stats Chris. Presumably set by smart seal.

« **Reply #62 on:** March 13, 2013, 10:09:15 pm »

Sales are from people buying sealer direct from my "online shop". I don't offer this anymore due to lack of interest..as the figures show.
Does Check-a-trade sell advertising on "hits/enquiry " figures....i asume it has been quoting you this type of thing. I am not telling you your job but be carefull when dealing with "salesmen".
The Smartseal website is good value for money...£290 thats it and £90 a year hosting after that. It's a cheap advert!
I just have to put up with you lot taking the p out of me for being a smartseal,resiblock,advanced sealingsolutions,pics "approved contractor.

« **Reply #63 on:** March 13, 2013, 10:10:19 pm »

Quote from: Blast Away on March 13, 2013, 10:08:12 pm

Strange how your site is configured to hidden on the stats Chris. Presumably set by smart seal.

I dont understand the question?

« **Reply #64 on:** March 13, 2013, 10:14:38 pm »

I dont assume for one minute my site gets anything like that amount of traffic.
ItI does not really matter how many hits it gets on graph, it's how often the phone rings from people finding the website that i measure in terms of success.

« **Reply #65 on:** March 14, 2013, 01:45:15 pm »

Quote from: BDCS on March 12, 2013, 11:24:20 pm

But we'll never know who the winner is now
Kevin, Indian sandstone - will you post a link to a suitable sealer for outside. I know I won't seal anymore but its for the outlaws. Please.

My choice would be a penetrating enhancing sealer. This brings out the beauty of all the fossils and features on an Indian Sandstone and as long as they understand that when they clean it it has to be done with a soft to medium brush on a Rotary and some pH Neutral Cleaner to preserve the integrity of the sealer they will be fine! Roger mentions Lithofin MN Stainstop however my choice would be Aqua Mix Enrich N Seal and it's not because I sell it either. It is because that is what we use on our work when we are doing it. PS I will be selling Lithofin as well soon for the Diehards who still love the stuff!

Alternatively if they don't want the stone enhancing then Aqua Mix Sealers Choice Gold

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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« **Reply #66 on:** March 14, 2013, 01:47:06 pm »

Quote from: Roger Oakley on March 13, 2013, 08:02:03 am

Quote from: BDCS on March 12, 2013, 11:24:20 pm
Indian sandstone - will you post a link to a suitable sealer for outside. I know I won't seal anymore but its for the outlaws. Please.

Lithofin Stain Stop, or Stain Stop Plus both impregnators excellent on Sandstone.

Roger

Have you ever tried Aqua Mix?

Kev Masrtin
Marblelife Ltd
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« **Reply #67 on:** March 14, 2013, 02:58:03 pm »

Kevin

Have you used any fluoropolymer products ?

« **Reply #68 on:** March 14, 2013, 07:48:55 pm »

Quote from: chris scott on March 14, 2013, 02:58:03 pm

Kevin

Have you used any fluoropolymer products ?

Chris

Very seldom at the end of the day We are Natural Stone Renovation Specialists and ultimately Fluoropolymers work by changing the the make up of the stone. So essentially I see them as a type of vitrification product. There also seems to be some confusion as some say they are Breathable and others disagree. Have you tried them? If so What brands?

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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« **Reply #69 on:** March 14, 2013, 08:28:15 pm »

Quote from: Kevin Martin on March 14, 2013, 01:47:06 pm

Quote from: Roger Oakley on March 13, 2013, 08:02:03 am
Quote from: BDCS on March 12, 2013, 11:24:20 pm
Indian sandstone - will you post a link to a suitable sealer for outside. I know I won't seal anymore but its for the outlaws. Please.

Lithofin Stain Stop, or Stain Stop Plus both impregnators excellent on Sandstone.

Roger

Have you ever tried Aqua Mix?

Kev Masrtin
Marblelife Ltd
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« **Reply #70 on:** March 14, 2013, 09:09:56 pm »

I've never heard of aqua mix - who are the UK suppliers ?

« **Reply #71 on:** March 14, 2013, 09:16:36 pm »

Quote from: Kevin Martin on March 14, 2013, 01:47:06 pm

Quote from: Roger Oakley on March 13, 2013, 08:02:03 am
Quote from: BDCS on March 12, 2013, 11:24:20 pm
Indian sandstone - will you post a link to a suitable sealer for outside. I know I won't seal anymore but its for the outlaws. Please.

Lithofin Stain Stop, or Stain Stop Plus both impregnators excellent on Sandstone.

Roger

Have you ever tried Aqua Mix?

Kev Masrtin
Marblelife Ltd
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Yes Kevin,
I bought some Aqua-Mix Enrich & Seal from you

Great on Limestone, but not used it on Sandstone, as I usually use Lithofin

« **Reply #72 on:** March 14, 2013, 10:09:00 pm »

Quote from: Roger Oakley on March 14, 2013, 09:16:36 pm

Quote from: Kevin Martin on March 14, 2013, 01:47:06 pm
Quote from: Roger Oakley on March 13, 2013, 08:02:03 am
Quote from: BDCS on March 12, 2013, 11:24:20 pm
Indian sandstone - will you post a link to a suitable sealer for outside. I know I won't seal anymore but its for the outlaws. Please.

Lithofin Stain Stop, or Stain Stop Plus both impregnators excellent on Sandstone.

Roger

Have you ever tried Aqua Mix?

Kev Masrtin
Marblelife Ltd
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Yes Kevin,
I bought some Aqua-Mix Enrich & Seal from you Great on Limestone, but not used it on Sandstone, as I usually use Lithofin

Roger

I had forgotten. I wouldn't mind your opinion some time on them side by side on some sandstone. But to make it fair it would need to be the Stainstop +

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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« **Reply #73 on:** March 14, 2013, 10:11:29 pm »

Quote from: Kevin Martin on March 14, 2013, 07:48:55 pm

Quote from: chris scott on March 14, 2013, 02:58:03 pm
Kevin

Have you used any fluoropolymer products ?

Chris

Very seldom at the end of the day We are Natural Stone Renovation Specialists and ultimately Fluoropolymers work by changing the the make up of the stone. So essentially I see them as a type of vitrification product. There also seems to be some confusion as some say they are Breathable and others disagree. Have you tried them? If so What brands?

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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I have been using them mainly on sandstone and to help repel chewinggum/staining etc. As far i as i am aware they do not really come under the classification of "vitrification" (as i under stand it).
To me the main attraction is the breathability.... hence there application on the likes of Indian sandstone etc ...it's all about ease of application and longevity of the sealed surface ( before re-application).
In hindsight i suppose really we are working in two different areas of the stone restoration business. I am working with the cheapest variety/grade of imported stone,in less than idea conditions with contractors who do not full understand the parameters in which jobs can be successfully undertaken.
As far as "brands" go my mate makes these products up in his garden shed from stuff he gets sent from the italians.
Kevin would you care to test some against other products i could send you some ?

« **Reply #74 on:** March 17, 2013, 01:51:17 pm »

Quote from: Kevin Martin on March 14, 2013, 10:09:00 pm

Quote from: Roger Oakley on March 14, 2013, 09:16:36 pm
Quote from: Kevin Martin on March 14, 2013, 01:47:06 pm
Quote from: Roger Oakley on March 13, 2013, 08:02:03 am
Quote from: BDCS on March 12, 2013, 11:24:20 pm
Indian sandstone - will you post a link to a suitable sealer for outside. I know I won't seal anymore but its for the outlaws. Please.

Lithofin Stain Stop, or Stain Stop Plus both impregnators excellent on Sandstone.

Roger

Have you ever tried Aqua Mix?

Kev Masrtin
Marblelife Ltd
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Yes Kevin,
I bought some Aqua-Mix Enrich & Seal from you Great on Limestone, but not used it on Sandstone, as I usually use Lithofin

Roger

I had forgotten. I wouldn't mind your opinion some time on them side by side on some sandstone. But to make it fair it would need to be the Stainstop +

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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Kevin,

Not a problem, I do need to seal mine at some point this summer so will use both and let you know how they compare,
I had to do test pieces for a client with various brands on Limestone and the Aqua-Mix was by far the best. I did find on Limestone that Lithofin wasn't anywhere near as good.

« **Reply #75 on:** March 17, 2013, 02:39:26 pm »

Roger would you like to compare the Fluoropolymer as well ?....i could send you some. It would be a good test against the generally accepted best products in the business...Lithofin and Aqua Mix. If you are applying it at your own home you could monitor it daily over the next 4/5 years.

« **Reply #76 on:** March 18, 2013, 07:53:47 pm »

Quote from: chris scott on March 14, 2013, 10:11:29 pm

Quote from: Kevin Martin on March 14, 2013, 07:48:55 pm
Quote from: chris scott on March 14, 2013, 02:58:03 pm
Kevin

Have you used any fluoropolymer products ?

Chris

Very seldom at the end of the day We are Natural Stone Renovation Specialists and ultimately Fluoropolymers work by changing the the make up of the stone. So essentially I see them as a type of vitrification product. There also seems to be some confusion as some say they are Breathable and others disagree. Have you tried them? If so What brands?

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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I have been using them mainly on sandstone and to help repel chewinggum/staining etc. As far i as i am aware they do not really come under the classification of "vitrification" (as i under stand it).
To me the main attraction is the breathability.... hence there application on the likes of Indian sandstone etc ...it's all about ease of application and longevity of the sealed surface ( before re-application).
In hindsight i suppose really we are working in two different areas of the stone restoration business. I am working with the cheapest variety/grade of imported stone,in less than idea conditions with contractors who do not full understand the parameters in which jobs can be successfully undertaken.
As far as "brands" go my mate makes these products up in his garden shed from stuff he gets sent from the italians.
Kevin would you care to test some against other products i could send you some ?

I would love to try some. Send it with an MSDS sheet and i will try it on a comparison stain tests after full cure time.

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« **Reply #77 on:** March 18, 2013, 08:04:33 pm »

Unit 4 oak farm? Do you have an email address?

« **Reply #78 on:** March 18, 2013, 09:24:30 pm »

Quote from: chris scott on March 17, 2013, 02:39:26 pm

Roger would you like to compare the Fluoropolymer as well ?....i could send you some. It would be a good test against the generally accepted best products in the business...Lithofin and Aqua Mix. If you are applying it at your own home you could monitor it daily over the next 4/5 years.

I'll trial it for you, but same as Kevin full MSDS & user instructions needed/wanted.

« **Reply #79 on:** March 19, 2013, 12:17:58 pm »

Quote from: chris scott on March 18, 2013, 08:04:33 pm

Unit 4 oak farm? Do you have an email address?

chris

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Marblelife Ltd
Units 1 & 4
Oak Farm
Hampton Lane
Catherine De Barnes
Solihull
B92 0JB

Tel Office: 0121 705 5333
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Kev Martin
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« **Reply #80 on:** March 20, 2013, 07:52:32 pm »

Chris,
Sample arrived today, Thank you, As soon as we get some decent weather I'll trail this.
I'll photograph it's progress on the year for you.

« **Reply #81 on:** March 20, 2013, 08:03:08 pm »

No problem let me know how you get on ....apparently it also repels invisible graffiti .
Kevs getting some as well . I am leaving myself wide open on here now !!!
Money where my (big) mouth is springs to mind.

« **Reply #82 on:** March 24, 2013, 02:23:06 pm »

Quote from: chris scott on March 20, 2013, 08:03:08 pm

No problem let me know how you get on ....apparently it also repels invisible graffiti .
Kevs getting some as well . I am leaving myself wide open on here now !!!
Money where my (big) mouth is springs to mind.

Chris

Got mine as well!

Cheers

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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