[AC Pressure]

I cleaned a rear patio this morning it had not been cleaned for 8 years so was very dirty after cleaning it looked better but not great, black litchen spots and still looks dirty although it is a hell of a lot better than it was.
I am not happy with it are there any safe bio degradable chemicals on the market that will get rid of these marks as customer does not want chemicals used that will kill flowers or lawn.

[Kev Martin]

What is the Patio made of?

Kev Martin
Marble Life Ltd

[AC Pressure]

The patio is riven buff coloured slabs

[Blast Away]

Aqua Mix Extreme...

[Kev Martin]

OK

I am not sure what you did this morning but it is very important to note that before you start you need to pre wet the stone as it is probably porous therefore anything you use on it will sink straight in and therefore you are vitually wasting your time.  If you mask off the grass and plants and then follow the steps below I am confident it will clean:

1.  Mask off any plants and or lawns.
2.  Pre wet the stone
3.  Fill your rotary scrubber tank with diluted pH14 High Alkaline cleaner such as Aqua seal Xtreme or Aqua Mix Heavy Duty Tile & Grout Cleaner.
4.  Scrub with a soft to medium brush and allow to dwell, then scrub again.
5.  Rinse and vacuum then rinse again.
6.  If all is well carry on with the process.
7.  If not repeat the process but this time add a little Aqua Seal Hone 320 Grit powder and work in.
8.  Now repeat step 5.

It should be then sorted.  If not give me a call on 0121 705 5333.

Kev Martin
Marble Life Ltd

[Rob_Mac]

What are the litres per minute & PSI of your machine. A 15LPM should be clearing most surface build up.

Are you using a flat surface cleaner then rinsing down with lance?

Are you lancing with turbo nozzle, flat nozzle?

Are you getting close enough?

I can honestly say I only ever use chemicals on graffiti and that is become less often with the heat of the H & M.

Rob

[Kev Martin]

Aqua Mix Extreme...

    Close Aqua Seal Xtreme!  Aqua mix Extreme is for Soot, rust and fire damage and is a buffered acid

Kev

[AC Pressure]

What are the litres per minute & PSI of your machine. A 15LPM should be clearing most surface build up.

Are you using a flat surface cleaner then rinsing down with lance?

Are you lancing with turbo nozzle, flat nozzle?

Are you getting close enough?

I can honestly say I only ever use chemicals on graffiti and that is become less often with the heat of the H & M.

Rob

I also never use chemicals but this one is the worst that i have ever come across my machine is the PT250e from Tech Clean 15 Lpm 250 bar 3600psi. Cleaned with lance and turbo nozzle dont get me wrong it looks a hell of a lot better than it was but i am just not happy with the fact that there are spots left on it.

[Rob_Mac]

Lots of overhanging vegetation & tree cover, damp?

Good bit of kit!

Rob

[mike roberts]

sheet up, hypo vac recovery

[AC Pressure]

Just had call from customer he is over the moon with how it has cleaned up said he never expected it to come so clean. If he is happy then so am i 

[Blast Away]

Aqua Mix Extreme...

    Close Aqua Seal Xtreme!  Aqua mix Extreme is for Soot, rust and fire damage and is a buffered acid

Kev

 

What are the litres per minute & PSI of your machine. A 15LPM should be clearing most surface build up.

Are you using a flat surface cleaner then rinsing down with lance?

Are you lancing with turbo nozzle, flat nozzle?

Are you getting close enough?

I can honestly say I only ever use chemicals on graffiti and that is become less often with the heat of the H & M.

Rob

Rob, you won't remove black spots with just water pressure. Have you used hypo? I go through 5 drums a week.

[mike roberts]

hence the name 'Hypo Man' 

[Rob_Mac]

I can and I do!

We have black spot all over kerb edges regularly. They are there and then they are gone

Rob

[Blast Away]

hence the name 'Hypo Man' 

Thought it was King? 

I can and I do!

We have black spot all over kerb edges regularly. They are there and then they are gone

Rob

Rubbish! I'd like to see you tackle indian stone with just your H&M. You've got no chance with just water, cold or hot.

[Rob_Mac]

I have only cleaned one 5000sqm of Indian Sandstone in the last six years, 18 months old, no blackspot on it.

You will note that Sainsbury's and the other larger supermarkets don't go a whole heap on Indian Sandstone.

So I will reiterate in my circumstances, on the surfaces I have cleaned I have removed all blackspot from them

Rob

[AC Pressure]

I have to say that i have never used chemicals and black spot has always been removed with just the turbo and cold water. However this one has proved that some jobs will require chemicals to get the job done. Where can i buy Hypo 

[BDCS]

Do you really have a problem with black spots in Birmingham ?

[Matt Gibson]

I had to take antibiotics to get rid of my black spots   

[AC Pressure]

Do you really have a problem with black spots in Birmingham ?

Excuse me i live in Solihull not Birmingham   

[Roger Oakley]

Blastaway quote
Rubbish! I'd like to see you tackle indian stone with just your H&M. You've got no chance with just water, cold or hot.


Lee, Rob bought the H&M set-up from me, and it will remove lichen with just the heat, I have removed lichen from Sandstone in the past with just heat. It is the heat side of things that makes the H&M so good.
But like you I use hypo, go through about 150-200lts per month.

[Rob_Mac]

Roger

Thanks for that - Since then it has an increase of flow by 13 LPM as well. I have bought a lot of kit over the last few years, spent all afternoon tidying it up and getting it in order, for phase 2!!!

The H & M was by far the single best investment I have ever made. It is simply staggering in what it can do and I am happy to say it has increased my productivity by at least 40%.

The cut on the turbo nozzle is about ten/twelve inches now and I just seems to cut through absolutely everything it touches.

I am most of the time running it at about 25LPM but knowing I have the additional 10LPM is very reassuring.

To just open the back doors walk 90metres to a point of work, connect the lance and get on with it, knowing that the tank will run for seven days solid @ ten hours per day @ £65.00 of red diesel total. It makes the job just too easy.

Thanks mate!!

Rob

[Rob_Mac]

Lee is just a bully

Rob

[Kenny83]

by the sounds of this hot and mighty it would do more damage than good to indian stone, touch and baby elephant spring to mind... in my opinion it would be a much better option to use hypo and lower pressure / litres on indian stone.
the Hot and mighty does sound good though, would like to see a pic of it rob? how hot does it get?? What litre boiler is on it? Also I have seen you metion it on other posts and that you have modified it with an upgrade pump / engine? Does this still mean it's technically a hot and mighty?
Is there a link on ebay to one similar to yours mate?
 

[Matt Gibson]

Rob,

Can you control the revs or do you use nozzle size to drop/increase the flow?

[Rob_Mac]

I'm washing the van tomorrow.

I will take some pictures tomorrow afternoon and attempt to upload them.

Yes it is still a H & M but it came with a 22LPM pump on a 24 HP Lombardini engine. Still phenomenal for a single operator but when I want two men splitting 22 down to 11pm per gun is a bit pants - that is why it was upgraded.

The engine was being wasted as well. I wanted to put 45LPM but it needs some power for the burner and a couple of other bits and it would have been too close to max.

The boiler is rated at I think 180 degree Celsius but it will not do 35 LPM at that and that is why I had the second return to tank fitted - to dump back to tank so I still got maximum heat.

It now has two 22 mm supplies feeding the pump.

Never tried to see what flow I would get with maximum heat - possibly worth attempting.

Rob

[Rob_Mac]

Matt

Cannot control the engine speed but there is  a second dump valve fitted which returns flow back to tank so I can determine how much water hits what.

Both the guns have flow restrictors on them and the third gun I have had fitted the same all with quick release connections to the nozzles.

Rob

[Roger Oakley]

by the sounds of this hot and mighty it would do more damage than good to indian stone, touch and baby elephant spring to mind... in my opinion it would be a much better option to use hypo and lower pressure / litres on indian stone.
the Hot and mighty does sound good though, would like to see a pic of it rob? how hot does it get?? What litre boiler is on it? Also I have seen you metion it on other posts and that you have modified it with an upgrade pump / engine? Does this still mean it's technically a hot and mighty?
Is there a link on ebay to one similar to yours mate?
 

Totally wrong mate, no damage to Indian Sandstone, one of the reasons is the lances that come with this set-up., it could hit when I had it 300c which is far hotter then any "hot box".

[Matt Gibson]

This second tank/dump valve intrigues me 

[Rob_Mac]

Kenny

380399911831

Possibly similar to this - I know Roger had it imported in a black trailer and that George Podell stopped using the 24HP Lombardin engine. It is in a Transit now with a chimney fitted for the engine exhaust & burner.

The tank will be coming out in the next couple of weeks to fit the recycling set up.

Cheers

Rob

[Rob_Mac]

Matt

That was put in purely to control flow for a single operator. Most of the time 35LPM would be just too much and I am glad of it because it will use the full tank 1400 litres in about an hour on that.
 
Rob

[Matt Gibson]

So basically, its got two tanks, two separate unloader valves? So if one person is using it, the other feed off the pump is just cycling back?

Cool...

[Rob_Mac]

Roger

Come on what is 300 fahrenheit. Is it 180 Celsius??

Rob

[Rob_Mac]

Matt

Right on that but one tank at the moment. It went wrong just after I had the upgrade and it turned out that the unloader valve was maxxing itself out, cost me new seals, double pump hose entry, larger unloader valve and an upgrade to all of the return to tank hoses.

Rob

[Kenny83]

by the sounds of this hot and mighty it would do more damage than good to indian stone, touch and baby elephant spring to mind... in my opinion it would be a much better option to use hypo and lower pressure / litres on indian stone.
the Hot and mighty does sound good though, would like to see a pic of it rob? how hot does it get?? What litre boiler is on it? Also I have seen you metion it on other posts and that you have modified it with an upgrade pump / engine? Does this still mean it's technically a hot and mighty?
Is there a link on ebay to one similar to yours mate?
 

Totally wrong mate, no damage to Indian Sandstone, one of the reasons is the lances that come with this set-up., it could hit when I had it 300c which is far hotter then any "hot box".

karcher hds's with a 21ltr hotbox would do 300f, I don't think 300 degrees c is possible, I would have thought it would just be pure gas and unsafe to use, melting everthing it touches? including hoses, seals in lance etc, even low pressure super heated steam generators only peak at 180 degrees c? To be honest with you though mate the point I was making is that Rob said use a turbo with heat, his machine does 'x' litres per minute and would shift black spots on indian stone, and in my experience a standard 15 litre machine doing 150 - 200 bar with a turbo on would damage indian stone so anything more would definitely damage it, hence the reason I would go for the hypo method... the hot and mighty looks a great machine but theres a tool for every job... although I have never used heat on indian stone, never needed to, and the guy who made the initial post quite possibly doesn't have steam so go for the hypo.

Did you import another hot and mighty? hence the sale to rob? what do you currently use now?

[Kenny83]

I'm washing the van tomorrow.

I will take some pictures tomorrow afternoon and attempt to upload them.

Yes it is still a H & M but it came with a 22LPM pump on a 24 HP Lombardini engine. Still phenomenal for a single operator but when I want two men splitting 22 down to 11pm per gun is a bit pants - that is why it was upgraded.

The engine was being wasted as well. I wanted to put 45LPM but it needs some power for the burner and a couple of other bits and it would have been too close to max.

The boiler is rated at I think 180 degree Celsius but it will not do 35 LPM at that and that is why I had the second return to tank fitted - to dump back to tank so I still got maximum heat.

It now has two 22 mm supplies feeding the pump.

Never tried to see what flow I would get with maximum heat - possibly worth attempting.

Rob

Sounds like a beast!  Although, if your kicking out 35lpm would there be any need for heat? unless you need chewing gum moved etc

[Blast Away]

Bully? Me? Get away! 

[Roger Oakley]

by the sounds of this hot and mighty it would do more damage than good to indian stone, touch and baby elephant spring to mind... in my opinion it would be a much better option to use hypo and lower pressure / litres on indian stone.
the Hot and mighty does sound good though, would like to see a pic of it rob? how hot does it get?? What litre boiler is on it? Also I have seen you metion it on other posts and that you have modified it with an upgrade pump / engine? Does this still mean it's technically a hot and mighty?
Is there a link on ebay to one similar to yours mate?
 

Totally wrong mate, no damage to Indian Sandstone, one of the reasons is the lances that come with this set-up., it could hit when I had it 300c which is far hotter then any "hot box".

karcher hds's with a 21ltr hotbox would do 300f, I don't think 300 degrees c is possible, I would have thought it would just be pure gas and unsafe to use, melting everthing it touches? including hoses, seals in lance etc, even low pressure super heated steam generators only peak at 180 degrees c? To be honest with you though mate the point I was making is that Rob said use a turbo with heat, his machine does 'x' litres per minute and would shift black spots on indian stone, and in my experience a standard 15 litre machine doing 150 - 200 bar with a turbo on would damage indian stone so anything more would definitely damage it, hence the reason I would go for the hypo method... the hot and mighty looks a great machine but theres a tool for every job... although I have never used heat on indian stone, never needed to, and the guy who made the initial post quite possibly doesn't have steam so go for the hypo.

Did you import another hot and mighty? hence the sale to rob? what do you currently use now?

I imported the first H&M trailer into the UK, needed for X amount of work, which we did, then used it as and when needed. until sold. What do I use now, 15lt Tech-Clean machine and Karchers. We do mainly decking, furniture and natural stone so don't need the heat or the pressure to clean these.

[Roger Oakley]

Roger

Come on what is 300 fahrenheit. Is it 180 Celsius??

Rob

Rob
If you look on the heat dial, from memory it is 250-300f, so hot enough for what you need and as you are aware no loss of pressure/flow so that is the gain.

[Blast Away]

I wouldn't advise anyone to go at something like this with a turbo even at heat. You'll cause damage. Indian sandstone can break up layer by layer.

But I know how you mean Rob with kerbs or general paving at the supermarkets, blackspots can come up with heat.

#hypoking

[Rob_Mac]

Kenny

Even with 35LPM it still won't shift all chewing gum, with heat it will. Just to be clear I never said it would do 300 Celsius, I said I thought 300 Fahrenheit was 180 Celsius, it is actually 150 Celsius.

I cleaned chewing gum off the storefront at Taplow in the week, working with other contractors, with the heat on I couldn't see them, just a lot of steam.

Rob

[Blast Away]

Kenny

Even with 35LPM it still won't shift all chewing gum, with heat it will. Just to be clear I never said it would do 300 Celsius, I said I thought 300 Fahrenheit was 180 Celsius, it is actually 150 Celsius.

I cleaned chewing gum off the storefront at Taplow in the week, working with other contractors, with the heat on I couldn't see them, just a lot of steam.

Rob

Was that you Rob??? Would have come over for a chat if I knew it was you! 

[Roger Oakley]

Kenny

Even with 35LPM it still won't shift all chewing gum, with heat it will. Just to be clear I never said it would do 300 Celsius, I said I thought 300 Fahrenheit was 180 Celsius, it is actually 150 Celsius.

I cleaned chewing gum off the storefront at Taplow in the week, working with other contractors, with the heat on I couldn't see them, just a lot of steam.

Rob

Is that the Sainsburys by the roundabout on the A4?

[Rob_Mac]

Lee

Very similar to that with a load of black spots trying to get their own back on me

Yes Roger with the big canopy - apparently the olympic torch is coming past and I have had to clean all the walls, kerbs, islands, slabs and the canopy to finish off on Sunday. Bit more on the right hand side low level to finish!

Rob

[Kenny83]

Kenny

Even with 35LPM it still won't shift all chewing gum, with heat it will. Just to be clear I never said it would do 300 Celsius, I said I thought 300 Fahrenheit was 180 Celsius, it is actually 150 Celsius.

I cleaned chewing gum off the storefront at Taplow in the week, working with other contractors, with the heat on I couldn't see them, just a lot of steam.

Rob

Sounds good mate, I know about the heat with chewy, thats what i put in my post and the 300 degree thing was a reply to roger...
The hot and mighty mahine on ebay you posted the number to is £18,000, looks a real beast, how would that compare to one of the machines at £7k performance / heat wise? As they look as meaty aswell, I take it the trailer bumps it up alot?

[Roger Oakley]

Kenny

Even with 35LPM it still won't shift all chewing gum, with heat it will. Just to be clear I never said it would do 300 Celsius, I said I thought 300 Fahrenheit was 180 Celsius, it is actually 150 Celsius.

I cleaned chewing gum off the storefront at Taplow in the week, working with other contractors, with the heat on I couldn't see them, just a lot of steam.

Rob

Sounds good mate, I know about the heat with chewy, thats what i put in my post and the 300 degree thing was a reply to roger...
The hot and mighty mahine on ebay you posted the number to is £18,000, looks a real beast, how would that compare to one of the machines at £7k performance / heat wise? As they look as meaty aswell, I take it the trailer bumps it up alot?

The one I bought was the "General" trailer

[Rob_Mac]

Kenny

The guys I work with a lot have some good machines, A Thor, A rapier & the new Alto contractor (is it called something else).

The Thor is just an absolutely monster - 45LP, split down to 22 on 2 men operation @3000psi and when it is on one man with most of the flow through a turbo nozzle it sound like a real angry bunch of bees but it is a cold machine.

The Rapier again great compact piece of kit, nice big pump and 30LPM, I think?!?!

The contractor would be the only machine really that would come anywhere close to the H & M - £9000.00 but it is a single operator unit.

For that you get the machine and a couple of lances.

I got a van full of set up, 1400 litre tank, 600 kilo of twin operator unit, with virtually instant heat, two cox reels, about 240 metres of 10mm? diameter hose, two flow adjusting, swivelling lances, it has chemical pick up and had a small header tank for antifreeze etc - I am sure that Roger won't mind me saying that it cost me considerably less than the price of the Contractor. I have spent a further £2000.00 on it and am due to spend some more on the recycling soon.

It had only done 250 hours of work.

I would say (I never saw Rogers trailer) that the George Podell trailers look like one of the best trailers I have seen, very, very nice. I have had a twin axle Ifor Williams Trailer, a single axle trailer and a very large 14 foot by 7 foot by 9 foot high.

The trailer would have been a big cost and also the import and taxes in getting it into the country.

Roger - How long did the process take from ordering the set up to getting it here?

The GP recycling system is very keenly priced at just under £6000.00 but it is large and would not fit into my vehicle - that is the only reason I have sourced an alternative in this country.

Are there any issues with the size of the machine?

Yes - it was made to fit into a trailer at 6 foot wide? and there is very little room for getting around it in the van, if there is a problem with it it has to go to the service people and be forklifted out of the van.

Saying that the bulk of the without water weight is on the back axle and you wouldn't know it was there when driving.

If someone said to me I have x amount of pounds what is the best kit out there? - I would say H & M, absolutely hands down.

The build quality is superb, there may be better or equal machines in America but there aren't any in this country!

Rob

[Roger Oakley]

Rob,

Seeing this was the first trailer set-up they exported to europe it did have it's problems, as in me sending over trailer hitches and then Podell having to source our braking system as to their electric brakes, as there weren't aware of the differences to our laws to theirs. so time was lost. They also skinned the trailer the wrong colour.
It should have took about 4 weeks from ordering to shipping, but it took around 3 months in the end, oh and it did get put in the wrong container and was bound for Italy so had to be transhipped  into the correct container.
They have got there act together now as Gum-Clear (martin whitbread) didn't go through the same problems as we did.
I think from memory with customs & duties etc it all came in at £14k or there abouts.

[Rob_Mac]

Roger

You must have been in profit then after selling them separately

Rob

[Roger Oakley]

Roger

You must have been in profit then after selling them separately

Rob

Maybe about £3-4k down form the purchase price to the selling price's but it made me a lot of money when i was using it. You have seen yourself how fast you can work with it.

[trevor perry]

Kenny

Even with 35LPM it still won't shift all chewing gum, with heat it will. Just to be clear I never said it would do 300 Celsius, I said I thought 300 Fahrenheit was 180 Celsius, it is actually 150 Celsius.

I cleaned chewing gum off the storefront at Taplow in the week, working with other contractors, with the heat on I couldn't see them, just a lot of steam.

Rob

 when moving gum heat is essential but water flow isnt a big issue, my machine runs at 21ltr a minute and 3000 psi, like robs goes upto steam but when removing gum i find it betterr to use a 03 size nozzle instead of the usual 07 size nozzle this reduces the water flow and any excess water is dumped back to tank i find using the smaller nozzle cuts through chewing gum twice as fast

[Kev Martin]

Kenny

The guys I work with a lot have some good machines, A Thor, A rapier & the new Alto contractor (is it called something else).

The Thor is just an absolutely monster - 45LP, split down to 22 on 2 men operation @3000psi and when it is on one man with most of the flow through a turbo nozzle it sound like a real angry bunch of bees but it is a cold machine.

The Rapier again great compact piece of kit, nice big pump and 30LPM, I think?!?!

The contractor would be the only machine really that would come anywhere close to the H & M - £9000.00 but it is a single operator unit.

For that you get the machine and a couple of lances.

I got a van full of set up, 1400 litre tank, 600 kilo of twin operator unit, with virtually instant heat, two cox reels, about 240 metres of 10mm? diameter hose, two flow adjusting, swivelling lances, it has chemical pick up and had a small header tank for antifreeze etc - I am sure that Roger won't mind me saying that it cost me considerably less than the price of the Contractor. I have spent a further £2000.00 on it and am due to spend some more on the recycling soon.

It had only done 250 hours of work.

I would say (I never saw Rogers trailer) that the George Podell trailers look like one of the best trailers I have seen, very, very nice. I have had a twin axle Ifor Williams Trailer, a single axle trailer and a very large 14 foot by 7 foot by 9 foot high.

The trailer would have been a big cost and also the import and taxes in getting it into the country.

Roger - How long did the process take from ordering the set up to getting it here?

The GP recycling system is very keenly priced at just under £6000.00 but it is large and would not fit into my vehicle - that is the only reason I have sourced an alternative in this country.

Are there any issues with the size of the machine?

Yes - it was made to fit into a trailer at 6 foot wide? and there is very little room for getting around it in the van, if there is a problem with it it has to go to the service people and be forklifted out of the van.

Saying that the bulk of the without water weight is on the back axle and you wouldn't know it was there when driving.

If someone said to me I have x amount of pounds what is the best kit out there? - I would say H & M, absolutely hands down.

The build quality is superb, there may be better or equal machines in America but there aren't any in this country!

Rob

Rob

So what are all your thoughts on the Falch Washers then?  I have neve seen anything better!  But before you all shoot me it is only an add on for us to our main business

Kev Martin
Marble life Ltd

[trevor perry]

Kenny

The guys I work with a lot have some good machines, A Thor, A rapier & the new Alto contractor (is it called something else).

The Thor is just an absolutely monster - 45LP, split down to 22 on 2 men operation @3000psi and when it is on one man with most of the flow through a turbo nozzle it sound like a real angry bunch of bees but it is a cold machine.

The Rapier again great compact piece of kit, nice big pump and 30LPM, I think?!?!

The contractor would be the only machine really that would come anywhere close to the H & M - £9000.00 but it is a single operator unit.

For that you get the machine and a couple of lances.

I got a van full of set up, 1400 litre tank, 600 kilo of twin operator unit, with virtually instant heat, two cox reels, about 240 metres of 10mm? diameter hose, two flow adjusting, swivelling lances, it has chemical pick up and had a small header tank for antifreeze etc - I am sure that Roger won't mind me saying that it cost me considerably less than the price of the Contractor. I have spent a further £2000.00 on it and am due to spend some more on the recycling soon.

It had only done 250 hours of work.

I would say (I never saw Rogers trailer) that the George Podell trailers look like one of the best trailers I have seen, very, very nice. I have had a twin axle Ifor Williams Trailer, a single axle trailer and a very large 14 foot by 7 foot by 9 foot high.

The trailer would have been a big cost and also the import and taxes in getting it into the country.

Roger - How long did the process take from ordering the set up to getting it here?

The GP recycling system is very keenly priced at just under £6000.00 but it is large and would not fit into my vehicle - that is the only reason I have sourced an alternative in this country.

Are there any issues with the size of the machine?

Yes - it was made to fit into a trailer at 6 foot wide? and there is very little room for getting around it in the van, if there is a problem with it it has to go to the service people and be forklifted out of the van.

Saying that the bulk of the without water weight is on the back axle and you wouldn't know it was there when driving.

If someone said to me I have x amount of pounds what is the best kit out there? - I would say H & M, absolutely hands down.

The build quality is superb, there may be better or equal machines in America but there aren't any in this country!

Rob

Rob

So what are all your thoughts on the Falch Washers then?  I have neve seen anything better!  But before you all shoot me it is only an add on for us to our main business

Kev Martin
Marble life Ltd

 what model was you looking at kevin, i once so a falch hot water trailer pressure washer in my opinion it wasnt very well thought out, it had two burners so twice as much to go wrong plus xtra fuel to run them both plus it would still only manage 21ltrs a minute also the water tank was way to small being about only 200ltr in size if running at 21 ltrs a minute this would only last 10 minutes and you would need a good water supply to keep up, most domestic supplies wont keep up when using 21ltr a minute, finally the electric control panel looked far to complicated and if water got in then would do some serious damage and believe me this is more likely to happen than you may think, i also think the machine was way over priced

[Kenny83]

Kenny

Even with 35LPM it still won't shift all chewing gum, with heat it will. Just to be clear I never said it would do 300 Celsius, I said I thought 300 Fahrenheit was 180 Celsius, it is actually 150 Celsius.

I cleaned chewing gum off the storefront at Taplow in the week, working with other contractors, with the heat on I couldn't see them, just a lot of steam.

Rob

 when moving gum heat is essential but water flow isnt a big issue, my machine runs at 21ltr a minute and 3000 psi, like robs goes upto steam but when removing gum i find it betterr to use a 03 size nozzle instead of the usual 07 size nozzle this reduces the water flow and any excess water is dumped back to tank i find using the smaller nozzle cuts through chewing gum twice as fast

I agree, I use a vario nozzle so can vary the nozzle to any degree from 60 to 0 pin jet, I adjust it so it is around 5 degree, not quite a pin but just wide enough to cove a piece of gum so all the force is concentrated on the gum and not the pavement around it, I find that a oin jet can be to small taking 3 4 strokes of the lance to remove gum

[Rob_Mac]

Kevin

I  like the look of them as well. Don't like the idea of towing them around (tacho and all that goes with that!!). I was and am very tempted when you mentioned you may be able to buy one as part of a bigger deal. I can definitely see an application for one.

They are a nice compact size and seem to have a lot of grunt. As Trevor seems to have seen under the bonnet of one I haven't and the only reason I have been put off them is the towing issue.

Aren't they quite pricey as well??

Did you ever do the deal that included the one mentioned previously??

Rob

[Blast Away]

Rob/Trevor, would I need a tacho for an ifor box trailer 10x5x6 same as yours? I'm looking for one to put a 24hp Lombardini in.

I'm bidding on this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ifor-williams-box-trailers-BV105G?item=320893461888&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D4%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8061504573699506940#ht_500wt_1413

[trevor perry]

Rob/Trevor, would I need a tacho for an ifor box trailer 10x5x6 same as yours? I'm looking for one to put a 24hp Lombardini in.

I'm bidding on this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ifor-williams-box-trailers-BV105G?item=320893461888&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D4%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8061504573699506940#ht_500wt_1413

   rob mentioned tachograph to me when he saw my trailer i was unaware one was needed  i did a bit of research and it depends on two things whether you need one the first is if the gross weight of vehicle and trailer is over 3500kg i have never been to a weighbridge to check this but i presume if carrying a full tank of water then i would be probably over but not sure, the second thing to consider is distance travelled you can be over this weight if working within a thirty mile radius of your work base, the majority of my work is within this distance so i have not bothered with a tachograph, if travelling further than 30 miles i fill tank when arriving at site, i should really have vehicle weighed at a weighbridge with tank empty to ensure i am within the law but have not got round to it yet.
   what machine are you thinking of putting in it lee, i may be building another trailer unit, i just bought another machine identical to the one i have at present and dont know whether to just keep it at unit as a back up or build another trailer to mount it in, i bought it from adam pauls brother you dont see them come for sale that often and they are silly money new

[Blast Away]

Rob/Trevor, would I need a tacho for an ifor box trailer 10x5x6 same as yours? I'm looking for one to put a 24hp Lombardini in.

I'm bidding on this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ifor-williams-box-trailers-BV105G?item=320893461888&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D4%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8061504573699506940#ht_500wt_1413

   rob mentioned tachograph to me when he saw my trailer i was unaware one was needed  i did a bit of research and it depends on two things whether you need one the first is if the gross weight of vehicle and trailer is over 3500kg i have never been to a weighbridge to check this but i presume if carrying a full tank of water then i would be probably over but not sure, the second thing to consider is distance travelled you can be over this weight if working within a thirty mile radius of your work base, the majority of my work is within this distance so i have not bothered with a tachograph, if travelling further than 30 miles i fill tank when arriving at site, i should really have vehicle weighed at a weighbridge with tank empty to ensure i am within the law but have not got round to it yet.
   what machine are you thinking of putting in it lee, i may be building another trailer unit, i just bought another machine identical to the one i have at present and dont know whether to just keep it at unit as a back up or build another trailer to mount it in, i bought it from adam pauls brother you dont see them come for sale that often and they are silly money new

Yeh I had a look at it Trev but it looks like it's been welded. Have you noticed this? It's on the head on top on engine. I believe you paid more than what he offered it to me for!  
I've just bought a Lombardini jetter van pack. Got the guy down to £475 for it as it has a slight leak in pump head. Bargain!
We're in South & West Yorks every 2 weeks so I'll need a tacho then if that's the case. I remember him mentioning the radius.

[Rob_Mac]

Lee

I've been working tonight so only just saw this.

Trevor has given you the main points but it goes a bit deeper than them.

I won't have a trailer and tachograph because every time you move it is recognised and recorded on the card reader. Think how many times you shunt the vehicle in a day. Everytime!!!!

I cannot remember what the allocation of working hours are but they aren't a lot.

I drove from Home to Taplow today - 3 hours then got on and did a 7 hour shift - I would have been over my working period.

I am sure it is only 45 hours per week but there is much more to it.

In nine months time you are pulled over and asked to justify why you worked twelve hours last Friday (because it is recorded) what are you going to say.

Christ - I can't remember yesterday!!! It is a nightmare - don't do it.

Spoke to a Tarmac driver at Colchester last year, he moved a metre on his break and didn't restart the break, £5000,00 fine.

Think about it!!!

Rob

[trevor perry]

Rob/Trevor, would I need a tacho for an ifor box trailer 10x5x6 same as yours? I'm looking for one to put a 24hp Lombardini in.

I'm bidding on this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ifor-williams-box-trailers-BV105G?item=320893461888&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D4%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8061504573699506940#ht_500wt_1413

   rob mentioned tachograph to me when he saw my trailer i was unaware one was needed  i did a bit of research and it depends on two things whether you need one the first is if the gross weight of vehicle and trailer is over 3500kg i have never been to a weighbridge to check this but i presume if carrying a full tank of water then i would be probably over but not sure, the second thing to consider is distance travelled you can be over this weight if working within a thirty mile radius of your work base, the majority of my work is within this distance so i have not bothered with a tachograph, if travelling further than 30 miles i fill tank when arriving at site, i should really have vehicle weighed at a weighbridge with tank empty to ensure i am within the law but have not got round to it yet.
   what machine are you thinking of putting in it lee, i may be building another trailer unit, i just bought another machine identical to the one i have at present and dont know whether to just keep it at unit as a back up or build another trailer to mount it in, i bought it from adam pauls brother you dont see them come for sale that often and they are silly money new

Yeh I had a look at it Trev but it looks like it's been welded. Have you noticed this? It's on the head on top on engine. I believe you paid more than what he offered it to me for!  
I've just bought a Lombardini jetter van pack. Got the guy down to £475 for it as it has a slight leak in pump head. Bargain!
We're in South & West Yorks every 2 weeks so I'll need a tacho then if that's the case. I remember him mentioning the radius.

 Just checked for the weld on top of engine which i had not noticed, when i looked it did look like a repair but checked on my other machine and it must be part of the casting as there is an identical line in same place on the other machine. adam gave it a full service before  i took it but i have not run it yet, i am going to use it tomorrow, out of interest how much was you offered the machine for.

[Blast Away]

Rob/Trevor, would I need a tacho for an ifor box trailer 10x5x6 same as yours? I'm looking for one to put a 24hp Lombardini in.

I'm bidding on this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ifor-williams-box-trailers-BV105G?item=320893461888&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D4%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8061504573699506940#ht_500wt_1413

   rob mentioned tachograph to me when he saw my trailer i was unaware one was needed  i did a bit of research and it depends on two things whether you need one the first is if the gross weight of vehicle and trailer is over 3500kg i have never been to a weighbridge to check this but i presume if carrying a full tank of water then i would be probably over but not sure, the second thing to consider is distance travelled you can be over this weight if working within a thirty mile radius of your work base, the majority of my work is within this distance so i have not bothered with a tachograph, if travelling further than 30 miles i fill tank when arriving at site, i should really have vehicle weighed at a weighbridge with tank empty to ensure i am within the law but have not got round to it yet.
   what machine are you thinking of putting in it lee, i may be building another trailer unit, i just bought another machine identical to the one i have at present and dont know whether to just keep it at unit as a back up or build another trailer to mount it in, i bought it from adam pauls brother you dont see them come for sale that often and they are silly money new

Yeh I had a look at it Trev but it looks like it's been welded. Have you noticed this? It's on the head on top on engine. I believe you paid more than what he offered it to me for!  
I've just bought a Lombardini jetter van pack. Got the guy down to £475 for it as it has a slight leak in pump head. Bargain!
We're in South & West Yorks every 2 weeks so I'll need a tacho then if that's the case. I remember him mentioning the radius.

 Just checked for the weld on top of engine which i had not noticed, when i looked it did look like a repair but checked on my other machine and it must be part of the casting as there is an identical line in same place on the other machine. adam gave it a full service before  i took it but i have not run it yet, i am going to use it tomorrow, out of interest how much was you offered the machine for.

£1,500 mate but what I seen put me off but fair do's you've got a good 'un there pal.

[anz peat]

Well in my opinion chemical would not be good choice to remove them.

[Rob_Mac]

Well - what was that jewel based on??

Rob

[Roger Oakley]

Well in my opinion chemical would not be good choice to remove them.

And where do you spring from with this sort of comment?

[Blast Away]

Well in my opinion chemical would not be good choice to remove them.

In your opinion have you tried a chemical. If so, which chemical?

[AC Pressure]

Well in my opinion chemical would not be good choice to remove them.

Ahh back to the original post  please tell us why

[Mike Halliday]

That is aspam post from a seo company who are trying to create links back to 'leaky pipes' but it's a waste of time as the links on CIU are not follow so useless

[BDCS]

The original post is about "black spots"    If you view "anz peat's" profile then it may be that he would be very well qualified to answer the original post   : : : : :

[AC Pressure]

The original post is about "black spots"    If you view "anz peat's" profile then it may be that he would be very well qualified to answer the original post   : : : : :

    

[BDCS]

He's from a black spot where they wear red spots   :

[BDCS]

Going back to an earlier post there is a Falch on e bay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FALCH-T3H-TRAILER-MOUNTED-HOT-WATER-PRESSURE-WASHER-/350552948480?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item519e957f00

[Griffus]

Going back to an earlier post there is a Falch on e bay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FALCH-T3H-TRAILER-MOUNTED-HOT-WATER-PRESSURE-WASHER-/350552948480?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item519e957f00

There are two: -

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l2736&_nkw=FALCH+T3H+