M W.

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Drought warning
« on: March 12, 2012, 03:04:01 pm »
Hya just heard that theres hosepipe bans in some parts of the country, bit woorying as its only march.
with enviromental issues escalating, has it affected any of you lot what with pressure washing/carpet-upholstery cleaning or any cleaning using a high volume of water

Len Gribble

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Re: Drought warning
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2012, 07:07:39 pm »
M.W

Most carpet cleaners use a bucket to fill machine unless they are TM like me then I need to use a hose but not for recreational use  ;)



What does a hosepipe ban mean?

Hosepipe bans, officially called Temporary Use Bans, ban 11 things in the home:
•   watering a garden using a hosepipe
•   cleaning a car using a hosepipe
•   watering plants using a hosepipe
•   cleaning a private leisure boat using a hosepipe
•   filling or maintaining a swimming or paddling pool
•   drawing water with a hosepipe for "recreational use"
•   filling or maintaining a domestic pond using a hosepipe
•   filling or maintaining an ornamental fountain
•   cleaning walls or windows with a hosepipe
•   cleaning paths or patios with a hosepipe
•   cleaning other artificial outdoor surfaces using a hosepipe.
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)

BDCS

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Re: Drought warning
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2012, 09:07:15 pm »
Last time I found it led to more business as punters who would do it themselves had no choice than to get it done professionally if indeed they really wanted it done - we can all turn these things round if we look at things from a slightly differently angle. Hose pipe bans don't affect us professionals ;)

M W.

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Re: Drought warning
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2012, 09:43:16 pm »
M.W

Most carpet cleaners use a bucket to fill machine unless they are TM like me then I need to use a hose but not for recreational use  ;)



What does a hosepipe ban mean?

Hosepipe bans, officially called Temporary Use Bans, ban 11 things in the home:
•   watering a garden using a hosepipe
•   cleaning a car using a hosepipe
•   watering plants using a hosepipe
•   cleaning a private leisure boat using a hosepipe
•   filling or maintaining a swimming or paddling pool
•   drawing water with a hosepipe for "recreational use"
•   filling or maintaining a domestic pond using a hosepipe
•   filling or maintaining an ornamental fountain
•   cleaning walls or windows with a hosepipe
•   cleaning paths or patios with a hosepipe
•   cleaning other artificial outdoor surfaces using a hosepipe.

BUT WE CAN FALL INTO ONE OF THESE CATERGORIES.

BDCS

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Re: Drought warning
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2012, 10:16:26 pm »
You don't need to shout. Joe public is what these measures apply to ie Joe cannot clean his car with a hose but you being a professional can clean your van, pressure wash a drive, etc. You don't see council swimming pools shut during a hose ban  ::)

Len Gribble

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Re: Drought warning
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2012, 07:56:17 pm »
Not really

Exemptions
The following will be exempted from the restriction:

i) using a hosepipe in a garden or for cleaning
walls or windows of domestic premises, paths
or patios, a private leisure boat or an artificial
outdoor surface, where such use is necessary
for health and safety reasons.

ii) watering a garden attached to a domestic
dwelling or watering plants on domestic
premises using a hosepipe, by people with
severe mobility problems who hold a current
Blue Badge as issued by their local authority.

iii) using a hosepipe to clean a private motor
vehicle, or walls and windows of domestic
premises, where this is done as a service to
customers in the course of a business.

iv) using a hosepipe to water an area of grass or
artificial outdoor surfaces used for sport or
recreation, where this is required in connection
with a national or international sports event.

v) drip or trickle irrigation watering systems, fitted
with a pressure reducing valve and a timer, that
are not handheld, that place water drip by drip
directly onto the soil surface or beneath the soil
surface, without any surface run off or dispersion
of water through the air using a jet or mist.


I must get on to Thames water re my soak-aways discount I believe and I have block paving with land drains.

The good old H&S have come to the rescue and I will be able to charge the wife for cleaning her car


 ;)
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)

BDCS

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Re: Drought warning
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2012, 08:09:23 pm »
Bring it to Canada Heights and I'll do it when I do the bike at the end of the meeting

Len Gribble

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Re: Drought warning
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2012, 08:41:35 pm »
How did you know she comes from Swanley (opposite the old bus garage) is a rather ugly town (I can vouch for that town that is)

You must know Steve Knight another TM, er ;)
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)

mike roberts

Re: Drought warning
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2012, 01:04:21 pm »
just been told via violia water cant use a hose to fill up tank on any domestic job. Doesnt mattet if ur a business! Cant even use a hydrant if water is to be used on domestic job. Effectively now cant work in Violia areas on domestic jobs.

BDCS

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Re: Drought warning
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2012, 02:30:41 pm »
We best all sign on then  ;D How can those garlic snail scoffer merchant bankers tell us we can't work ? Won't stop me

Matt Gibson

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Re: Drought warning
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2012, 04:19:28 pm »
Ahhhh Scotland.  What's a drought order?  ;D

mike roberts

Re: Drought warning
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2012, 05:16:33 pm »
Ahhhh Scotland.  What's a drought order?  ;D

Well for us its good bye business so not exactly laughing.

Len Gribble

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Re: Drought warning
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2012, 07:50:06 pm »
Mike

Was this a phone call or did you get it in writing from them? Ether way I would question the Exemptions item (iii) with them ;)
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)

mike roberts

Re: Drought warning
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2012, 08:09:05 pm »
Mike

Was this a phone call or did you get it in writing from them? Ether way I would question the Exemptions item (iii) with them ;)


Just posted this on Window cleaning side - where did you get exemptions from ? as all water boards are different.



Hello Donna (my partner)

Thank you for your quick response.  Having read through the restrictions unfortunately we would not be able to grant you a licence for any cleaning works for driveways (both domestic and commercial properties), patios and roofs of domestic properties.  This falls under the restricted activity of cleaning other artificial outdoor surfaces using a hosepipe.  It mentions that this activity would not be allowed regardless who is undertaking the cleaning and whether they are domestic or commercial.

Full details including the restrictions and definitions can be found on our drought webpage following this link https://central.veoliawater.co.uk/drought.aspx  If you have licences with neighbouring water companies it would be advisable to contact them also as we are one of 6 companies in the South East having to take these measures.

If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me.

Regards, Kay

Kay Lewin
Hydrant Enforcement Team
___________________________________________
Veolia Water
Tamblin Way, Hatfield, Herts, AL10 9EZ
DD:    +44 (0)1707 398605 (Ext: 6605)
www.veoliawater.co.uk/central

Roger Oakley

Re: Drought warning
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2012, 09:02:36 pm »
Hi Mike,

Same water auth. here also, as well as Thames Water what are you going to do?


mike roberts

Re: Drought warning
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2012, 09:29:02 pm »
Hi Mike,

Same water auth. here also, as well as Thames Water what are you going to do?



Had good news from Anglian as we can continue just with Standpipes for now. But as from April looks like anything Violia way is no go even commercial we do alot of work in welwyn digswell all no good. Guys on window cleaning side have been given different info will ring 2mw and request written confirmation plus speak to Hydrant dept. so much for recycling - whats the point ...

We was booked up for 6wks not sure now... how about yourself ?


Roger Oakley

Re: Drought warning
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2012, 09:41:51 pm »
Booked till mid-june, can't see wimbledon being worried or cancel, and a few blue chip clients are not going to want to toe the line either. Might have a couple of clients that might feel guilty and may cancel, but to be honest, will wait till the Easter weekend and sound them out.

Len Gribble

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Re: Drought warning
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2012, 06:56:48 pm »
I didn’t get any exemption it was on there web site



http://www.thameswater.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/corp/hs.xsl/15443.htm


Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)

Matt Gibson

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Re: Drought warning
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2012, 04:08:30 pm »
How r u guys getting on? Been reading the post in the windows section, so many conflicting messages from different companies!

Roger Oakley

Re: Drought warning
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2012, 05:23:57 pm »
How r u guys getting on? Been reading the post in the windows section, so many conflicting messages from different companies!

And that is the problem, it seems each water company has a different view.