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md_cleaning

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Prochem 1 day training courses - worth doing? New
« on: December 30, 2003, 10:37:38 pm »
Last year I went on the prochem 4 in 1 cleaning course, this included carpet and upholstery, but was rather rushed so am thinking of doing the full day course  for both, has anyone been on these? Are they worth while? Are there any other courses that are good?
I have cleaned for nearly 3 years but my training was one day with another cleaner, but now on my own I would like proper training.
Any help would be good.
  Thanks, Dave
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Ken Wainwright

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Re: training
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2003, 11:05:55 pm »
Yes Dave, the one day carpet and one day upholstery courses from Prochem are excellent, whether taken individually or together. Highly recommended.

Given your location, unless the Prochem School was on tour and in your area, the excellent NCCA course in Leicester may be better suited to you. Possibly a better choice of dates too.

Safe and happy cleaning:)
Ken
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Mike Halliday

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Re: training
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2003, 11:36:48 pm »
Dave, if you've been cleaning carpets & upholstery for 3 years, what do you think you need to learn?

I'm all for training but after 3 years most of the courses ran by prochem or the NCCA won't teach you anything you don't already know ( unless your a complete thicko ;) )

Most of the specialised knowledge I've gained over the last few years has come from the Internet &  places like this.

Mike
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Scots_cleaner

Re: training
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2003, 11:42:41 pm »
:D :DThats the way i learned as all the courses are down south and i dont have a passport :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Only kidding ;)
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md_cleaning

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Re: training
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2003, 06:39:51 pm »
Thanks for your help, have looked at NCCA courses and they seem good so may give them a try.
 Dave.
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strakercleaning

Re: training
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2004, 01:10:27 pm »
"3 YEARS IN THE GAME AND WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU NEED TO LEARN" :o
I have been in the game for almost 21 years and I still look for new courses to attend. Do not think you know everything until THEY stop making new materials and chemicals. You would also realise, if you attend any course, just how much basic knowledge you have forgotten..............and better to realise that on a course than in a customers house ::)
Prochem and NCCA courses are VERY good and I can promise it would not be money wasted ;D
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Ken Wainwright

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Re: training
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2004, 01:58:02 pm »
To all of you who don't yet know Mike Halliday too well, he is very, very good at playing Devil's Advocate. Think of any topic, make a posting, and when the debate is getting a little tired and worn, Mike will shake things up and get your grey matter working overtime. I for one am a great fan of young Michael. He has the quite rare ability to look at most issues from different perspectives, throw in a spanner and see what comes out. Long may you continue Mike. And a very happy New Year to you all.

Safe and happy cleaning:)
Ken
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Mike Halliday

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Re: training
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2004, 02:23:33 pm »
ken, I'm glad someone recconnisies my immense talent ::) ::)

Chris, I stick by what I posted 'What do you need to learn after 3 years?'  

but as you can see this is a question, not a statement. Dave has been cleaning for 3 years. During that time he will have gained a good basic understanding of carpet & fabric cleaning.  

So I'm asking the question 'what do you need to learn?' because on the Prochem & NCCA courses he won't learn anything he does'nt already know ( although as you say, it will be a good refresher)

Dave if you want to increase your knowledge, then I would look at the woolsafe course, IICRC odour clontrol & maybe some flood & fire courses.

I've posted many times we need advanced courses in carpet & upholstery cleaning.

Mike
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Derek

Re: training
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2004, 04:07:25 pm »
Hi Guys

Lets look at this issue a bit further ..taking on Mike's comments plus a few others as well.

I do agree that training is essential and that this should be ongoing.  The day I stop learning I will probably be in my box although don't be too sure on that! ;)

Perhaps what Mike is getting at is the fact that most courses are aimed at the newer people coming into the Industry...the rest of us know the basics.

Perhaps we should consider 'informative days' which would deal with the finer points of our 'game'.

New Fabrics with any relative problems

New carpet and fabric Constructions

New Chemicals/tools

New Machinery/techniques.

Am I hitting any spots here Mike?

Regards
Derek
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strakercleaning

Re: training
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2004, 10:15:05 pm »
Point taken :-X but everyone forgets things and any course will jog your memory to some extent. I agree that some courses should be available for extended learning about new products etc. I am considering the courses you mention ( restoration/flood damage) and will seek out when back to work ;D
HOPE ALL YOU FELLOW CCs HAVE HAD A GOOD REST but now I have to deal with a string of party damaged carpets as from tomorrow.  ::)
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