BDCS

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SAFE CONTRACTOR
« on: March 08, 2014, 04:01:14 pm »
Does any other one man band or maybe 1+1 have safe contractor ? I'm fed up with these firms all wanting different accreditation schemes - why can't the half wits get together and agree to use the same one ? I can understand people wanting creditable contractors but why can't there be an accredited standard and so long as you achieve this through one lodge or another whats the issue ? Chas is another one I've been asked for let alone the county council who did their own

Roger Oakley

Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2014, 04:18:29 pm »
Other then CAT Carl, no we don't have any. Don't do much work in the commercial sector, so haven't needed to have the "creds" to date.


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Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2014, 05:15:24 pm »
Simon, the safecontractor  scheme, just applied online but it seems quite a drawn out process . How did you find it and do you have to be in business for x amount of years before you are accepted ? Ed
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2014, 05:18:02 pm »
We have it, Matt, Lee and Richard (Leeksons) also have it I think  ;)

Mine is due for renewal should be easier this yr  ... thats what they said last yr  ::)roll

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Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2014, 05:22:21 pm »
Quite straight forward just provide them with the policies there require. Had to write a few to be complient and the rest is what you use anyway.

Aqua Power Solutions

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Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2014, 05:27:20 pm »
Thanks for quick reply Simon , wait for the information to come back to me . Ed
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BDCS

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Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2014, 05:33:03 pm »
Do you have to pay the £250 each year ?

G O Cleaning

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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2014, 05:40:23 pm »
Yes upto 4 staff.... I think, we need to double check it this year as the price goes up with extra staff

chris scott

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Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2014, 05:43:23 pm »
Paying  a fee does not make you safe.
Anybody can buy into the stickers for there van. Most of these schemes are privately run profit making businesses.
They p me off.
Safe contractor ....then uses 15% bleach round peoples property...don't start me.
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Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2014, 05:59:28 pm »
Chris, I think we all agree with these schemes but unfortunately if you don't have the certificate then you don't get an opportunity to quote for the organizations . Ed
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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2014, 06:01:27 pm »
Ignore him ..... he sprays a SAFE chem   ::)roll  all over the place using some contraption from the states  ;D ;D ;D ;D ... Chris only joking  ;D

chris scott

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Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2014, 06:10:49 pm »
Ok so what I purpose in is we do own cert.   We are as qualified as any body else ,we know the industry inside out.
We can call it. W.A.N.K.E.R.S

w..ater
a...nd
n...aClO
k...leeners
e..uro-compliant
r...eferral
s...cheme

Send me £60 by paypal .I'll bang you on our website ,send you some stickers and get you 20% off in the local brothel.
Half way through the year I'll change all the rules and charge you again for revalidation.
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Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2014, 06:20:22 pm »
The firm that dropped 50 tonnes of oil in their bund wants it so they will collect the certificate costs - I don't know why they need me to clean it before they need to see the certificate  ???

Matt Gibson

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Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2014, 06:39:25 pm »
I only pay £150is a year as im a sole trader with no "full time" employees..

Richy L

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Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2014, 07:05:45 pm »
Same as Matt. I am a sole trader with the occasional subbie.
I am in my first year with Safecontractor. Took around 4-5 weeks to go through everything.
I signed up just so I could work for a management company. Yet to get any work off them though!!

Blast Away

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« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2014, 07:41:38 pm »
Ignore him ..... he sprays a SAFE chem   ::)roll  all over the place using some contraption from the states  ;D ;D ;D ;D ... Chris only joking  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D

Blast Away

Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2014, 07:52:26 pm »
Paying  a fee does not make you safe.
Anybody can buy into the stickers for there van. Most of these schemes are privately run profit making businesses.
They p me off.
Safe contractor ....then uses 15% bleach round peoples property...don't start me.


Calm down Christine.

Tell me what's safe about using your xjet up at people's houses with your shiite so called safe chem. If a neighbour got a drift of it in their eyes will it irritate them? I'm sure it will.

chris scott

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Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2014, 08:11:02 pm »
Paying  a fee does not make you safe.
Anybody can buy into the stickers for there van. Most of these schemes are privately run profit making businesses.
They p me off.
Safe contractor ....then uses 15% bleach round peoples property...don't start me.


Calm down Christine.

Tell me what's safe about using your xjet up at people's houses with your shiite so called safe chem. If a neighbour got a drift of it in their eyes will it irritate them? I'm sure it will.

I'm not in the safe contractor category...were cowboys. :'(

... but we do have MDS, risk assessments,are registered contractors ,attended appropriate training courses for the HSE approved bio-degradable,eco friendly chemicals we use...poope or not .
Our Insurance also covers use for use of approved chemicals in case anybody goes blind watching us work or if our chemicals damage property we are working on....or if we kill the lawn.
Are you a "safe contractor" Lee? ;D ;D ;D
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Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2014, 08:20:20 pm »
Lees question is relevant, quats etc all the same doesn't matter if it's a French dude selling it u can't call sell it as being safe  :P

Roger Oakley

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« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2014, 10:50:37 pm »
The firm that dropped 50 tonnes of oil in their bund wants it so they will collect the certificate costs - I don't know why they need me to clean it before they need to see the certificate  ???

Carl
Is this the one we spoke about the other day?

Roger Oakley

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« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2014, 11:05:41 pm »
All these "accredited" schemes amaze me, who the authority checking them to know what's what?
we are members of CAT, but I only use it these days as part of advertising budget and the general public like these "Creds", but they are IMO a waste of time, just Red Tape, to make things difficult and some people happy.
We carry MSDS sheets for everything we use, and do RAMS which all get passed, how much more do you need paperwork wise, so does this make me safer then someone with a SC piece of paper?

So glad our lines of work are unknown, decking, furniture, or some bloke in a suit, would dream up some obstacle to make life difficult without a modicum of an idea of what we do.

BDCS

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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2014, 11:48:54 pm »
Roger, yes it was. The factory handles 80% of the edible oil used in this country and the oil leaked out of an insulated mild steel silo, the insulation was wet causing the rot. The oil itself did remind me of really thick Liberon decking oil but did come off with just heat and the turbo nozzle albeit slowly. They were very pleased with the results. While I was there I did find another oil remover which I will trial but first impressions are good. The site needs other jobs that I can help with so I will set the office manager on the safe contractor task  ::)roll.

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Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2014, 07:11:30 am »
Lees question is relevant, quats etc all the same doesn't matter if it's a French dude selling it u can't call sell it as being safe  :P

Some things are a lot safer than others. Everything we do we should minimize the risk.Find safer was of doing it..for the environment and those around us.
I am going to hug a tree now ,eat muesli and smoke a chillum .
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Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2014, 10:29:30 am »
Sounds like a H&H on a stroker.

G O Cleaning

Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2014, 10:44:26 am »
Lees question is relevant, quats etc all the same doesn't matter if it's a French dude selling it u can't call sell it as being safe  :P

Some things are a lot safer than others. Everything we do we should minimize the risk.Find safer was of doing it..for the environment and those around us.
I am going to hug a tree now ,eat muesli and smoke a chillum .
Serious question....  is it safe for Aquatics?

BDCS get ready for huge amount of paper work, as you provide multiple services you need to supply info for everything all aspects P washing right down to carpet cleaning. First year is the worst. Information is supplied via the net by scanning documents and uploading onto their system, they probably wont tell you this but you can do it in stages, which saves the pain a bit. Just imagine Rob with one 70 page risk assesment they will love him ;D

I think its worth belonging to atleast one of these schemes as atleast it shows you have some knowledge / cover some areas of HS.

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Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2014, 11:19:50 am »
It's all just a money making racket. We have never been on any of these and never been short of work!!  Your just lining people's pockets for nothing.

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Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2014, 12:25:43 pm »
Lees question is relevant, quats etc all the same doesn't matter if it's a French dude selling it u can't call sell it as being safe  :P

Some things are a lot safer than others. Everything we do we should minimize the risk.Find safer was of doing it..for the environment and those around us.
I am going to hug a tree now ,eat muesli and smoke a chillum .
Serious question....  is it safe for Aquatics?

BDCS get ready for huge amount of paper work, as you provide multiple services you need to supply info for everything all aspects P washing right down to carpet cleaning. First year is the worst. Information is supplied via the net by scanning documents and uploading onto their system, they probably wont tell you this but you can do it in stages, which saves the pain a bit. Just imagine Rob with one 70 page risk assesment they will love him ;D

I think its worth belonging to atleast one of these schemes as atleast it shows you have some knowledge / cover some areas of HS.
It carries the dead fish symbol !! (what does n't?) .We have never wiped out anybodys Koi collection. I would not give your goldfish to drink tho' .
HSE have passed it for general use by professionals . Normal chemical rules rules apply...use wisely ;D
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Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2014, 04:27:51 pm »
It's all just a money making racket. We have never been on any of these and never been short of work!!  Your just lining people's pockets for nothing.
We had a simple choice, risk losing a 20K yearly contract or join SC, some multi nationals etc insist you join certain schemes.

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Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2014, 07:38:56 pm »
If you work on a Asda supermarket, you have to be CSCS certified , These stores are live and not building sites but they stipulate this requirement to all contractors regardless. Ed   
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Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2014, 08:25:53 pm »
CSCS is hardly a qualification  ;D 10 mins multiple guess  ::)roll

Aqua Power Solutions

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« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2014, 08:42:50 pm »
  ;D  i failed , past on 8th attempt  ;D ed
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Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2014, 08:04:37 pm »
We have never been asked for any certificates, only health and safety. And we have been trading for 15 years on commercial and domestics, schools, and plenty of commecial cleans like shopping parks etc. we wouldn't bother with paying extra money out but I guess if you had to have it for your 20k a year contract then you needed it.  Everyone's different with what they need I suppose.

drive surgeon

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Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2014, 08:07:45 pm »
Hasn't anyone signed up for "bestpressurewashingcompanyinuk"  yet? It's only £3000 a year. If your not on it your screwed  ;D lol

chris scott

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Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2014, 08:14:05 pm »
We have never been asked for any certificates, only health and safety. And we have been trading for 15 years on commercial and domestics, schools, and plenty of commecial cleans like shopping parks etc. we wouldn't bother with paying extra money out but I guess if you had to have it for your 20k a year contract then you needed it.  Everyone's different with what they need I suppose.
Who are you..where are you? Show me your website.
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Darranvps

Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2014, 08:15:09 pm »
WE HAD CHAS, SAFE CONTRACTOR etc etc etc sine the very first day of trading in March 2010

Then we decided to cancel all of them - and spend more money on marketing - Now we have more customers and more money to spend on getting more customers rather than paying for silly schemes.

We found the customers who wanted us to have them also wanted the lowest prices - we never got any work because we won't charge low prices - so no need for the accreditations etc


G O Cleaning

Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2014, 06:57:13 pm »
Decided to rename our company. We are going to call ourselves 'Pink P---- Cleaning Services'.

Unfortunately, the forum finds this offensive hence 'Pink Kitten'. I do find it slightly offensive that they rule the P word to be offensive, but thats another issue.

Reason for the name change looking to target more commercial clients, as a general rule PA's are usually female, hence the colour Pink ... the ladies also like cute little animals hence p-----.
Just to be clear I have shown this to my partner (female) she has concluded this is not in anyway sexist. Thankyou............To be honest she did try to smack me but I was making a sharp exit. All the best

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Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2014, 07:18:18 pm »
Purple Rhino I like your website, simple but effective. Who made it?   ;D

Darranvps

Re: SAFE CONTRACTOR
« Reply #38 on: March 11, 2014, 08:17:18 pm »
Purple Rhino I like your website, simple but effective. Who made it?   ;D

Red Carrot  ;D

Took a lot of time though - it's much more complex than it first appears