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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Stoots on May 31, 2020, 06:35:00 pm
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On a Truck ;D
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1590946447_new truck.jpg)
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What did you do that for you could have claimed again in August and paid cash for it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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What did you do that for you could have claimed again in August and paid cash for it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cant claim anything mate, Ltd company im afraid
anyway the bounce back loan is almost as good as cash, only a few hundred quid interest....
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Good on ya m8. 👍
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I have 2 mates that have owned them and both trucks lived in the repair shop , hope you have better luck.
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For Work? Or play?
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Enjoy it Adam 👍🏼
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Where are you gonna put your poles?
Totally impractical for window cleaning IMO Adam but each to their own....their also known to be very unreliable vehicles.....
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Where are you gonna put your poles?
Totally impractical for window cleaning IMO Adam but each to their own....their also known to be very unreliable vehicles.....
Pretty sure this will be along side his van mate...
It’s a way of having a 5 seater that’s still tax deductible as he can use it for ‘work’ as well...
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Where are you gonna put your poles?
Totally impractical for window cleaning IMO Adam but each to their own....their also known to be very unreliable vehicles.....
I once remember a guy who was earning as much out the back if an old golf as he was a van!!
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As long as it's got heated seats it'll be fine ;D
Darran
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On a Truck ;D
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1590946447_new truck.jpg)
Just a word of warning a friend of mine bought one of them that was three years old when he took it in for the mot the following year it failed on rusty chassis it was very badly corroded , the mot station said it was a common problem . Might pay just to get it checked out just in case .
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I've had the debate in my head for years whether to try a truck for work, I've always fancied one but questioned the practicalities so im going to try it for work and see how I get on with it, I have a car and a van but the car is rarely used so hoping I can just use the one vehicle for everything.
my 25ft slx fits in diagonally with a bit of room to spare. I only have about 6 houses that I can't reach with that so I'll either just bin them off or the extensions may fit in, or they could go across the back seats.. I've not tried yet.
Getting a canopy tomorrow so then I'll do some measuring up for tank etc.
As for reliability, I've read about the many flaws of numerous trucks...name a truck and there's a horror story to go with it.. In the end I just went with the cheapest, newest, lowest mileage one I could find that I liked the look of. I wanted white as I think they look more of a work truck I'm just debating whether to sign write it.
To be honest, it's the newest best condition vehicle I've ever owned, full leather, heated seats etc. I'm chuffed to bits with it ;D
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On a Truck ;D
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1590946447_new truck.jpg)
Just a word of warning a friend of mine bought one of them that was three years old when he took it in for the mot the following year it failed on rusty chassis it was very badly corroded , the mot station said it was a common problem . Might pay just to get it checked out just in case .
Yes, chassis was the first thing I inspected its a known issue, they snap in half 😂
M.O.T history doesn't mention corrosion which is good
I'm not worried, this one is in decent condition and luckily my dad is a welder/fabricator and we've already discussed taking the rear tub off and plating it all up as a precaution. It will all be treated, going to clean it all up underneath and rust proof it.
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Ignore the negative comments regarding trucks for work, I’ve got a ranger and absolutely love it, the setup I have means I’m every bit as quick if not quicker than using a van as I have the reel mounted on the tailgate so the angle I can pull the hose is amazing.
I can fit my 22 and 35 SLX poles in the back and I have the extensions for the 35 to take it to 45 foot down the side of the tank.
Here is a video I did when I first got it.
https://youtu.be/qY5mxR9Mg6E
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As for reliability, I've read about the many flaws of numerous trucks...name a truck and there's a horror story to go with it.. In the end I just went with the cheapest, newest, lowest mileage one I could find that I liked the look of. I wanted white as I think they look more of a work truck I'm just debating whether to sign write it.
To be honest, it's the newest best condition vehicle I've ever owned, full leather, heated seats etc. I'm chuffed to bits with it ;D
I've run a 2002 Ford Ranger for work for the last nine years with no major issues. Just passed 176,000 miles and all is well.
From 99-06 they are bombproof. 07-08 can have transmission problems due to stupid gearbox design. Cured in late 08 and up to 2012, again bombproof.
After 2012 they seem to blow up engines due to a totally useless oil pump.
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On a Truck ;D
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1590946447_new truck.jpg)
Just a word of warning a friend of mine bought one of them that was three years old when he took it in for the mot the following year it failed on rusty chassis it was very badly corroded , the mot station said it was a common problem . Might pay just to get it checked out just in case .
Yes, chassis was the first thing I inspected its a known issue, they snap in half 😂
M.O.T history doesn't mention corrosion which is good
I'm not worried, this one is in decent condition and luckily my dad is a welder/fabricator and we've already discussed taking the rear tub off and plating it all up as a precaution. It will all be treated, going to clean it all up underneath and rust proof it.
The D40 is a very nice truck, especially in four seat King Cab configuration with suicide doors.
They always had more power than the competition, they were the first to have a six speed manual box and to offer a decent level of trim across the range.
However,
Some parts are scarily expensive and in some cases unobtainable, they have a nasty habit of putting no 3 conrod through the side of the block and a complete absence of rust doesn't mean that the chassis won't crack. The problem is poor design in the distribution of load.
If you look up the Navara Snapped Chassis Group you find that some passed the chassis inspection and then snapped anyway.
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Ignore the negative comments regarding trucks for work, I’ve got a ranger and absolutely love it, the setup I have means I’m every bit as quick if not quicker than using a van as I have the reel mounted on the tailgate so the angle I can pull the hose is amazing.
I can fit my 22 and 35 SLX poles in the back and I have the extensions for the 35 to take it to 45 foot down the side of the tank.
Here is a video I did when I first got it.
https://youtu.be/qY5mxR9Mg6E
Nice, where did you get the custom tank?
I know there's a place that does them in Oldham not too far from me, going to give them a ring.
I'm getting a canopy tomorrow that looks similar to yours windows on all sides. So. I'll have a better idea of what will fit in then. Managed to snare it for £150 off ebay in the right colour, I know they are expensive new.
Might copy your reel, I was thinking either like that or putting in on the top of a flatter tank
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What did you do that for you could have claimed again in August and paid cash for it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cant claim anything mate, Ltd company im afraid
anyway the bounce back loan is almost as good as cash, only a few hundred quid interest....
How come you done that now ? Couldn't you get credit before ?
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defo get some sign writing on it - better for tax purposes
Darran
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On a Truck ;D
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1590946447_new truck.jpg)
Just a word of warning a friend of mine bought one of them that was three years old when he took it in for the mot the following year it failed on rusty chassis it was very badly corroded , the mot station said it was a common problem . Might pay just to get it checked out just in case .
Yes, chassis was the first thing I inspected its a known issue, they snap in half 😂
M.O.T history doesn't mention corrosion which is good
I'm not worried, this one is in decent condition and luckily my dad is a welder/fabricator and we've already discussed taking the rear tub off and plating it all up as a precaution. It will all be treated, going to clean it all up underneath and rust proof it.
The D40 is a very nice truck, especially in four seat King Cab configuration with suicide doors.
They always had more power than the competition, they were the first to have a six speed manual box and to offer a decent level of trim across the range.
However,
Some parts are scarily expensive and in some cases unobtainable, they have a nasty habit of putting no 3 conrod through the side of the block and a complete absence of rust doesn't mean that the chassis won't crack. The problem is poor design in the distribution of load.
If you look up the Navara Snapped Chassis Group you find that some passed the chassis inspection and then snapped anyway.
I know, I've read it all but at the same time you see them on 06 plates with 180k on the original engine with no snapped chassis. so to me it's like anything else, no vehicle is perfect. Like you say the ranger has its faults and the l200 is known for head gaskets.
I think the chassis tend to crack on the pivot point between the tub and cab so it's an obvious design flaw but they are repairable. I'm going to strengthen that area and look after the truck and hope for the best.. there's not much else I can do.
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What did you do that for you could have claimed again in August and paid cash for it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cant claim anything mate, Ltd company im afraid
anyway the bounce back loan is almost as good as cash, only a few hundred quid interest....
How come you done that now ? Couldn't you get credit before ?
Not at 2.5% I couldn't
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Ignore the negative comments regarding trucks for work, I’ve got a ranger and absolutely love it, the setup I have means I’m every bit as quick if not quicker than using a van as I have the reel mounted on the tailgate so the angle I can pull the hose is amazing.
I can fit my 22 and 35 SLX poles in the back and I have the extensions for the 35 to take it to 45 foot down the side of the tank.
Here is a video I did when I first got it.
https://youtu.be/qY5mxR9Mg6E
Nice, where did you get the custom tank?
I know there's a place that does them in Oldham not too far from me, going to give them a ring.
I'm getting a canopy tomorrow that looks similar to yours windows on all sides. So. I'll have a better idea of what will fit in then. Managed to snare it for £150 off ebay in the right colour, I know they are expensive new.
Might copy your reel, I was thinking either like that or putting in on the top of a flatter tank
I think it was the guy from Oldham EMPF water tanks I think.
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On a Truck ;D
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1590946447_new truck.jpg)
Just a word of warning a friend of mine bought one of them that was three years old when he took it in for the mot the following year it failed on rusty chassis it was very badly corroded , the mot station said it was a common problem . Might pay just to get it checked out just in case .
Yes, chassis was the first thing I inspected its a known issue, they snap in half 😂
M.O.T history doesn't mention corrosion which is good
I'm not worried, this one is in decent condition and luckily my dad is a welder/fabricator and we've already discussed taking the rear tub off and plating it all up as a precaution. It will all be treated, going to clean it all up underneath and rust proof it.
The D40 is a very nice truck, especially in four seat King Cab configuration with suicide doors.
They always had more power than the competition, they were the first to have a six speed manual box and to offer a decent level of trim across the range.
However,
Some parts are scarily expensive and in some cases unobtainable, they have a nasty habit of putting no 3 conrod through the side of the block and a complete absence of rust doesn't mean that the chassis won't crack. The problem is poor design in the distribution of load.
If you look up the Navara Snapped Chassis Group you find that some passed the chassis inspection and then snapped anyway.
I know, I've read it all but at the same time you see them on 06 plates with 180k on the original engine with no snapped chassis. so to me it's like anything else, no vehicle is perfect. Like you say the ranger has its faults and the l200 is known for head gaskets.
I think the chassis tend to crack on the pivot point between the tub and cab so it's an obvious design flaw but they are repairable. I'm going to strengthen that area and look after the truck and hope for the best.. there's not much else I can do.
One of my customers has a very nice D40 with a 3.0 V6 diesel and autobox. No problems with it at all in four years. Though it did replace his previous 12 plate that snapped.
They're getting cheap enough now and it's probably worth taking a risk. I hope all goes well with it.
I'll have another Ranger, Supercab of course :)
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What did you do that for you could have claimed again in August and paid cash for it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cant claim anything mate, Ltd company im afraid
anyway the bounce back loan is almost as good as cash, only a few hundred quid interest....
How come you done that now ? Couldn't you get credit before ?
Not at 2.5% I couldn't
Oh ok, so this crisis hasn't adversley affected you. Its give you better options. Cheers.
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What did you do that for you could have claimed again in August and paid cash for it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cant claim anything mate, Ltd company im afraid
anyway the bounce back loan is almost as good as cash, only a few hundred quid interest....
How come you done that now ? Couldn't you get credit before ?
Not at 2.5% I couldn't
Oh ok, so this crisis hasn't adversley affected you. Its give you better options. Cheers.
No, busier than ever. Took the bounce back loan as couldn't get the grant. Thought I may as well take advantage of what I could get, everyone else is.
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What did you do that for you could have claimed again in August and paid cash for it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cant claim anything mate, Ltd company im afraid
anyway the bounce back loan is almost as good as cash, only a few hundred quid interest....
How come you done that now ? Couldn't you get credit before ?
Not at 2.5% I couldn't
Oh ok, so this crisis hasn't adversley affected you. Its give you better options. Cheers.
No, busier than ever. Took the bounce back loan as couldn't get the grant. Thought I may as well take advantage of what I could get, everyone else is.
Yeah nothing wrong with that mate. If you're busier than ever how come you didn't just save the cash for a new vehicle ? Obviously, you've still got to pay the loan back even if it is low interest ? So if you are busier than ever, thats great. But now you have payments to meet, and whilst you're busy thats fine. Do you forsee this being "busy" slowing down at all ?
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What did you do that for you could have claimed again in August and paid cash for it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cant claim anything mate, Ltd company im afraid
anyway the bounce back loan is almost as good as cash, only a few hundred quid interest....
How come you done that now ? Couldn't you get credit before ?
Not at 2.5% I couldn't
Oh ok, so this crisis hasn't adversley affected you. Its give you better options. Cheers.
No, busier than ever. Took the bounce back loan as couldn't get the grant. Thought I may as well take advantage of what I could get, everyone else is.
Yeah nothing wrong with that mate. If you're busier than ever how come you didn't just save the cash for a new vehicle ? Obviously, you've still got to pay the loan back even if it is low interest ? So if you are busier than ever, thats great. But now you have payments to meet, and whilst you're busy thats fine. Do you forsee this being "busy" slowing down at all ?
I could have bought it outright but would prefer to leave the cash in the bank... I can pay the loan off at any time up to a year without penalty and then after that at very low interest. No repayments for a year.
No I don't envisage slowing down at all, I'm not worried about the virus in the slightest
In the unlikely event we all end up struggling and the world combust then its a good job I took the loan through my ltd company with no personal guarantee. ;)
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I bought one of those on March 15th. I've done about 200 miles in it since >:(
Cracking truck though.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1590982914_Screenshot_20200321-173131__01.jpg)
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I had a company Ranger I bought new in 2016. In the end I hated it. Poor build quality. Rattly cab. Wouldn't buy another. If I had to buy a vehicle for work and personal use, I'd buy one of these.
https://www.trustford.co.uk/transit-centre/used-van-details/used-ford-transit-custom-limited-combi-van-agate-black-manual-diesel/id-695991855/
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Birdy he said hes allready got a van 🤣🤣🤣
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Birdy he said hes allready got a van 🤣🤣🤣
Not a crew van though. Seats and comfort + better suited for work IMO.
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I bought one of those on March 15th. I've done about 200 miles in it since >:(
Cracking truck though.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1590982914_Screenshot_20200321-173131__01.jpg)
Perfect choice of words, Soups!
It certainly is; I hope it doesn't. ;D
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Nice truck !
They can work well for wfp sole trader with a bit of thought, very well in fact.
I ran a Ford Ranger supercab last 5 years. Only sold this February and went back to a small van. Miss it !
Re tank : I had one made for me by Stephen Scargill.
A 500 L baffled lay flat that fitted tightly between wheel arches in load bed.
If its of interest I was going to put it up for sale some time as not needed. I am on south coast though ( 7 miles from Brighton ).
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Nice truck !
They can work well for wfp sole trader with a bit of thought, very well in fact.
I ran a Ford Ranger supercab last 5 years. Only sold this February and went back to a small van. Miss it !
Re tank : I had one made for me by Stephen Scargill.
A 500 L baffled lay flat that fitted tightly between wheel arches in load bed.
If its of interest I was going to put it up for sale some time as not needed. I am on south coast though ( 7 miles from Brighton ).
Would you be able to measure the tank up for me mate and let me know.
Thanks
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Nice truck !
They can work well for wfp sole trader with a bit of thought, very well in fact.
I ran a Ford Ranger supercab last 5 years. Only sold this February and went back to a small van. Miss it !
Re tank : I had one made for me by Stephen Scargill.
A 500 L baffled lay flat that fitted tightly between wheel arches in load bed.
If its of interest I was going to put it up for sale some time as not needed. I am on south coast though ( 7 miles from Brighton ).
Would you be able to measure the tank up for me mate and let me know.
Thanks
Will do
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It's approx 1704 mm wide by 800 mm deep and 620 mm high. Like I mentioned was made to measure specifically to be a tight fit between wheel arches Inc bed liner of a 2005 ranger, of course your truck maybe different. Has two hose tail outlets facing out to tail gate. Left with tap for 1/2" hose and right a straight through hose tail for 1" hose ( quick fill for a back pack or to drain it ). 5" screw on filler cap to the right hand side.
Black with a translucent panel sight guage.
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It's approx 1704 mm wide by 800 mm deep and 620 mm high. Like I mentioned was made to measure specifically to be a tight fit between wheel arches Inc bed liner of a 2005 ranger, of course your truck maybe different. Has two hose tail outlets facing out to tail gate. Left with tap for 1/2" hose and right a straight through hose tail for 1" hose ( quick fill for a back pack or to drain it ). 5" screw on filler cap to the right hand side.
Black with a translucent panel sight guage.
Going to be too wide then mate :( but thanks, Mines 1500 x 1500, bit less with the bed liner in.
Cheers
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No worries was just a thought. Either Stephen Scargill or EMPF are the chaps to contact if you want something bespoke.
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Nice wheels!!
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I bought a 11 plate a few months ago, ideal pick up if you also ferry the kids around, I had to update the rear springs as they didn't like the weight that much, got some 4+1 put on and new shocks, perfect ride now.
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I bought a 11 plate a few months ago, ideal pick up if you also ferry the kids around, I had to update the rear springs as they didn't like the weight that much, got some 4+1 put on and new shocks, perfect ride now.
I was just looking at uprated springs this afternoon, ive a feeling im going to spend some money on this thing lol
what size tank do you have in ?
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Gomo check milners off road for your parts they are good and supply loads of stuff for pick ups etc I've used them for years. I've just uprateed the leaf springs and shockers on my l200 ;D
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Fitted a canopy today, next job get it kitted out....
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1591122914_p1.jpg)
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What you putting in that 500.
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I bought a 11 plate a few months ago, ideal pick up if you also ferry the kids around, I had to update the rear springs as they didn't like the weight that much, got some 4+1 put on and new shocks, perfect ride now.
I was just looking at uprated springs this afternoon, ive a feeling im going to spend some money on this thing lol
what size tank do you have in ?
400ltr upright, still loads of room in the rear as well. Perfect for what i wanted, when I get the time ill put it into a place for the chassis to be treat and plated, there is a place that does it all for around £600.
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surely a 500L tank is what you need minimum....i often drain my tank in 5-6 hours work......
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For now i have just put a 350l tank in that i had in the garage....that and half a dozen barrels. Its a flattish tank and there is just enough room to tip the barrels in.
Soon as ive sold my van i will get a custom tank built, should get a 600l one in , i use about 500 a day on average
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On a Truck ;D
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1590946447_new truck.jpg)
If I was going to buy one it would have to be a proper big boys toy like this one ;D
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/toyota/hilux-pickup/
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On a Truck ;D
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1590946447_new truck.jpg)
If I was going to buy one it would have to be a proper big boys toy like this one ;D
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/toyota/hilux-pickup/
Too ugly.
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It might seem odd, but I genuinely prefer a van to a truck. I prefer the higher driving position. I’d have a Combo over a truck any day.
Off topic, Soupy what do you think of the new Defender?
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It might seem odd, but I genuinely prefer a van to a truck. I prefer the higher driving position. I’d have a Combo over a truck any day.
Off topic, Soupy what do you think of the new Defender?
Not a defender.
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surely a 500L tank is what you need minimum....i often drain my tank in 5-6 hours work......
Not always Daz, this does me in mine with the work I do, Ive a van with a 650ltr in and that does the majority of the work
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If I was going to buy one it would have to be a proper big boys toy like this one ;D
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/toyota/hilux-pickup/
Money being no object I would have a gone for an amarok or a hilux as they are probably the best built but realistically at the price I paid they were much older with higher mileage.
It was either the navara, l200 or ranger and just boiled down to which I could find the best deal on.
I specifically wanted white which narrowed down my options a bit.
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It might seem odd, but I genuinely prefer a van to a truck. I prefer the higher driving position. I’d have a Combo over a truck any day.
Off topic, Soupy what do you think of the new Defender?
Not a defender.
Not keen then. I quite like the look.
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It might seem odd, but I genuinely prefer a van to a truck. I prefer the higher driving position. I’d have a Combo over a truck any day.
Off topic, Soupy what do you think of the new Defender?
Not a defender.
Not keen then. I quite like the look.
I'd have one, it's not a defender though. I wouldn't be chopping the back off and bolting on Aluminium chequer plate, that's for sure.
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Turns out theres plenty of room in the truck, what i thought was a 350l tank i had is actually a 500l one.
So no need for a custom tank afterall, i`ll just spray this one or cover it up so it doesnt look like a mucky old wydale tank ;D
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1591195481_500l.jpg)
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It might seem odd, but I genuinely prefer a van to a truck. I prefer the higher driving position. I’d have a Combo over a truck any day.
Off topic, Soupy what do you think of the new Defender?
Not a defender.
Not keen then. I quite like the look.
I'd have one, it's not a defender though. I wouldn't be chopping the back off and bolting on Aluminium chequer plate, that's for sure.
Er... no. It looks a bit too posh for that.
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Turns out theres plenty of room in the truck, what i thought was a 350l tank i had turns out to be a 500l one.
So no need for a custom tank afterall, i`ll just spray this one or cover it up so it doesnt look like a mucky old wydale tank ;D
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1591195481_500l.jpg)
Sorted !
Out of interest have you given any thoughts to securing it ?
thats not a dig btw. My ranger had external rails that I looped cargo slings through and tightened with a ratchet strap. This held it tight against the bulkhead and tightly wedged between the wheel arches it never budged. Keep the updates coming, be interested to see how it all looks and fits once finished. :)
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Turns out theres plenty of room in the truck, what i thought was a 350l tank i had turns out to be a 500l one.
So no need for a custom tank afterall, i`ll just spray this one or cover it up so it doesnt look like a mucky old wydale tank ;D
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1591195481_500l.jpg)
Sorted !
Out of interest have you given any thoughts to securing it ?
thats not a dig btw. My ranger had external rails that I looped cargo slings through and tightened with a ratchet strap. This held it tight against the bulkhead and tightly wedged between the wheel arches it never budged. Keep the updates coming, be interested to see how it all looks and fits once finished. :)
2 or 3 good ratchet straps should do it
I will wedge some wood down the sides of the tank/arches to stop it moving
Hard to tell on the pic but theres 3 metal rails running round the sides and 2 on the floor (covered up in the pic i posted before)
these take sliding hooks to fasten stuff to.
like this
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1591203753_navar load.jpg)
once its strapped to these i reckon it will be as safe as in a cage if not more so
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I think the truck option is at least as safe as a van and probably more so the way they handle the weight. You just lose a bit of practicality in terms of space for a vac, longer poles, washer and chems if you use them.
What will probably happen is it will force you to become super organised. A place for everything and everything in its place etc.
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Guessing you don’t do any pressure washing or softwashing Adam?
I love a truck, but I couldn’t use one simply because they don’t have the same practically as a van.
Enjoy it, although I can’t help but think you’ll want a van again in a couple of years ;)
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Not enough room for me and not practical enough either most people would need to put poles on the roof.
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Wouldn't fancy 500 litres ratchet strapped personally.
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I looked into one years ago it wasn’t practical once you put a tank in em there’s no room left,the only option would have been a bespoke tank that had pump and DI built into it. No room for poles and no room for a diesel heater.
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Always seems to encourage a lot of negative comments when pick up trucks are mentioned on here from people who have never used one or working requirements rule them out. Of course if you need more than a 500 L tank or do pressure washing its not going to be practical but neither would a berlingo be. If all you do is window cleaning with a simple diy set up as a sole trader needing one dual purpose vehicle they're great. No damp smelly cab or sloshing water, car and small van in one. Several on here use them. Lee GLS has a well thought out set up that carries all he needs.
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It might seem odd, but I genuinely prefer a van to a truck. I prefer the higher driving position. I’d have a Combo over a truck any day.
Off topic, Soupy what do you think of the new Defender?
Defenders of the earth.
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The thing is adam is using it as a dual purpose vehicle....work and leisure......so it's more suited for that....
from my experience its always a bad idea to just have one vehicle for both....its just a big faff taking your wfp equipment in and out all the time.....
A dedicated work van and a separate car for leisure is the way to go ideally......its also easier for business expense purposes....
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He could always buy a small box trailer for items he doesn't use when window cleaning and tow the trailer to booked in jobs that way he doesn't have to keep putting stuff in and taking things out of pick up
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Guessing you don’t do any pressure washing or softwashing Adam?
I love a truck, but I couldn’t use one simply because they don’t have the same practically as a van.
Enjoy it, although I can’t help but think you’ll want a van again in a couple of years ;)
No I've done it all carpets, softwashing, gutters, pressure washing etc and now just stick to windows. I don't have the time to do anything else and it's all too much faff.
I looked into one years ago it wasn’t practical once you put a tank in em there’s no room left,the only option would have been a bespoke tank that had pump and DI built into it. No room for poles and no room for a diesel heater.
Dont need any room left. All I need is a tank, pole, battery, controller, pump and maybe a backpack.. I don't carry a d. I or r.o I have a static system. both my 25ft and 39ft poles fit in fine. Don't need a diesel heater, will probably fit an immersion.
I did question whether it was big enough but its perfectly fine if you just clean windows.
Wouldn't fancy 500 litres ratchet strapped personally.
If you have heavy enough ratchet straps the weakest point will be the anchors. The anchor points on this truck are probably better than what most have drilled through their van floor with a cage and certainly better than flimsy van anchor rings.
The thing is adam is using it as a dual purpose vehicle....work and leisure......so it's more suited for that....
from my experience its always a bad idea to just have one vehicle for both....its just a big faff taking your wfp equipment in and out all the time.....
A dedicated work van and a separate car for leisure is the way to go ideally......its also easier for business expense purposes....
I would agree with you, if you make use the car.. . I had a van and a car and hardly ever had a need to use the car because my girlfriend has one so we just used hers. I just got fed up of it sat their doing nowt and paying 2 lots of insurance and tax.
I could have just kept the van only and managed but to be honest I just wanted a truck. I go fishing quite a lot and would be ideal to take down some of the farm tracks and i fancy doing some green laning.
I just wanted one, a new van didn't do anything for me.
Not sure how having 2 vehicles is easier for expense purposes though...
He could always buy a small box trailer for items he doesn't use when window cleaning and tow the trailer to booked in jobs that way he doesn't have to keep putting stuff in and taking things out of pick up
To be fair there's enough room to fit a gutter vac and poles of I went for a custom tank and like you say a pressure washer could be put on a trailer. Not that I'm interested in either at the moment.
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How do you get to the tank to get the lid off?
Water authorities round my way use Hilux trucks with a canopy on the back with side roller doors. Look ideal.
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How do you get to the tank to get the lid off?
Water authorities round my way use Hilux trucks with a canopy on the back with side roller doors. Look ideal.
I just stretch my arm to the required length and then unscrew it ;D the lid for the tank will be at the back to be fair as I need to turn the tank round but it's easy enough to reach across the tank to get to it.
A canopy with side opening windows would have been ideal to allow side access, these are fixed but i managed to get it for £150 off ebay in the right colour in good condition so I'm not too fussed. Probably could make the windows to open with a bit of modification.
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The thing is adam is using it as a dual purpose vehicle....work and leisure......so it's more suited for that....
from my experience its always a bad idea to just have one vehicle for both....its just a big faff taking your wfp equipment in and out all the time.....
A dedicated work van and a separate car for leisure is the way to go ideally......its also easier for business expense purposes....
Why would you need to do that ?
I ran a Ranger supercab pickup for 5 years and never did that. Could even fit my mountainbike on the back seats or chuck a weekly shop in the back with my wfp gear and never had to remove anything. I had a 500 L tank, combi ladder, backpack, fixed reel, trad gear and two poles permanently in the back of mine even when I'd go somewhere on the weekend with 3 passengers.
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How do you get to the tank to get the lid off?
Water authorities round my way use Hilux trucks with a canopy on the back with side roller doors. Look ideal.
I just stretch my arm to the required length and then unscrew it ;D the lid for the tank will be at the back to be fair as I need to turn the tank round but it's easy enough to reach across the tank to get to it.
A canopy with side opening windows would have been ideal to allow side access, these are fixed but i managed to get it for £150 off ebay in the right colour in good condition so I'm not too fussed. Probably could make the windows to open with a bit of modification.
My one had a high hard top canopy no windows. I cut the fiberglass and fitted a hinged lockable door from a boat/motorhome supplier so I could use it to fill the tank without climbing in the back. Reckon if you could be bothered you could replace the glass pane with a panel and do similar. Some may think it a faff but with a bit of effort you end up with the perfect work vehicle.
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Gomo to fill your tank drill a hole in the tank lid and fit a hoselocck Male connection to it then make up a length of hose with a connector on each end attach one end to the lid and the other connector stays at the back within easy reach. I've gaffer taped mine to the inside to prevent any kinks in the hose. Just connect and fill no hassle. Now would be the best time to apply insulation etc before it's full of gear. ;D
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Gomo to fill your tank drill a hole in the tank lid and fit a hoselocck Male connection to it then make up a length of hose with a connector on each end attach one end to the lid and the other connector stays at the back within easy reach. I've gaffer taped mine to the inside to prevent any kinks in the hose. Just connect and fill no hassle. Now would be the best time to apply insulation etc before it's full of gear. ;D
I fill my tank from a static tank with 40mm corrugated hose. Takes about 10 mins to fill 500l.
I don't think it would be a problem at all, if I kneel on the tailgate I can reach across to the far side of the tank to open the lid.
Although you are right, I could probably do something like you said to make it a bit easier but I'd need bigger tubing, normal hose slows down the process quite a lot and I imagine strains the pump.
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The thing is adam is using it as a dual purpose vehicle....work and leisure......so it's more suited for that....
from my experience its always a bad idea to just have one vehicle for both....its just a big faff taking your wfp equipment in and out all the time.....
A dedicated work van and a separate car for leisure is the way to go ideally......its also easier for business expense purposes....
Why would you need to do that ?
I ran a Ranger supercab pickup for 5 years and never did that. Could even fit my mountainbike on the back seats or chuck a weekly shop in the back with my wfp gear and never had to remove anything. I had a 500 L tank, combi ladder, backpack, fixed reel, trad gear and two poles permanently in the back of mine even when I'd go somewhere on the weekend with 3 passengers.
Can't see me needing to take anything out, maybe very rarely.... There's nothing I do on a regular basis that wouldn't fit in.
Even if I need need to for a one off occasion taking a reel and a strapped tank out would take 5 mins. There really won't be much in there to remove.
The only thing I would do is empty the tank on a weekend so I'm not lugging 500l of water around for no reason.
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I just leave my water in over the weekend my pickup drives better with a bit of weight in especially since uprating springs and shockers ;D
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I just leave my water in over the weekend my pickup drives better with a bit of weight in especially since uprating springs and shockers ;D
Yes, I've heard that. I noticed a difference with the canopy to when I bought it. Still a bit bouncy, you can tell its a truck not quite as refined a drive as a car or van but it's not far off.
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I had a navara before this l200 the navara is the more comfortable of the two. Enjoy it👍 no more worries about getting stuck in the snow either ;D
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Gomo to fill your tank drill a hole in the tank lid and fit a hoselocck Male connection to it then make up a length of hose with a connector on each end attach one end to the lid and the other connector stays at the back within easy reach. I've gaffer taped mine to the inside to prevent any kinks in the hose. Just connect and fill no hassle. Now would be the best time to apply insulation etc before it's full of gear. ;D
I fill my tank from a static tank with 40mm corrugated hose. Takes about 10 mins to fill 500l.
I don't think it would be a problem at all, if I kneel on the tailgate I can reach across to the far side of the tank to open the lid.
Although you are right, I could probably do something like you said to make it a bit easier but I'd need bigger tubing, normal hose slows down the process quite a lot and I imagine strains the pump.
Search Geka hose fittings. They have lots of hose sizes. I'm sure you could use them to set up Alan's suggestion.
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Someone said the anchors are the weakest point,they are always the weakest point in any van-truck. A chain is only as strong as it’s weakest link.
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Navaras have universal chanels on both sides of the pickup tub another along the front of the tub and two in the floor the hooking clamps can be locked in any positions that are required and extra clamps can be bought if needed probably got the best load securing arrangement of any vehicle out there.
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Someone I know had one said spares were expensive for the Navara
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What, worse than VW?
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Spares aren't bad price if you check out Milner off road.
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Spares aren't bad price if you check out Milner off road.
Be very wary of MIlners stuff.
Some of their spares are very good and well priced too - others are absolutely appalling.
Check with the Navara forums for trusted sources.
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Can't say I've personally had a problem with them but as with buying anything it's best to shop around 👍I've had parts for a shogun a pathfinder an l200 and navara without any issues but thanks for the heads up 👍
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Can't say I've personally had a problem with them but as with buying anything it's best to shop around 👍I've had parts for a shogun a pathfinder an l200 and navara without any issues but thanks for the heads up 👍
I've bought a few bits off them over the years for my Ranger / Mazda B2500.
The ARB kits were superb and only about £10.
A clutch master cylinder only lasted a week and was of incredibly poor quality.
An overall take on the Ranger forums suggests this is fairly common - replacement heads being made of chocolate etc.
Of my four local mechanics who work on a lot of 4x4, none of them will order anything that's costly or labour intensive from Milners.
Much of it seems to be very Chinese and if it were anything else would probably be on sale at Wish.
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On a Truck ;D
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1590946447_new truck.jpg)
How do you fit yer ladders on that... ???
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The guy I know got a new ford ranger he loves it.
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Well, this is what i knocked up as a temporary solution from stuff i had in the garage, i think i may yet get a custom tank when i get rid of my van but it works for now.
Forgive the horrendous reel, its had a hard life :D i ordered a new one from pure freedom a while ago and it still hasnt turned up yet :(
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1592065946_t m 1.jpg)
tools and other bits fit in the back
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1592066193_tm2.jpg)
oh but i did add this modification to the tailgate this morning
enjoy
https://youtu.be/9aiccKfJsbU
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If you are happy with it pal... that's all that matters.👍 I reckon NWH's wife is shagging someone else!!👍😆
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Well, this is what i knocked up as a temporary solution from stuff i had in the garage, i think i may yet get a custom tank when i get rid of my van but it works for now.
Forgive the horrendous reel, its had a hard life :D i ordered a new one from pure freedom a while ago and it still hasnt turned up yet :(
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1592065946_t m 1.jpg)
tools and other bits fit in the back
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1592066193_tm2.jpg)
oh but i did add this modification to the tailgate this morning
enjoy
https://youtu.be/9aiccKfJsbU
Awesome video. Wayhay!
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If you are happy with it pal... that's all that matters.👍 I reckon NWH's wife is shagging someone else!!👍😆
Never m8 once you’ve rode on a horse you never bother going back on a pony,ask your Mrs she was down my stables earlier today 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 🐎
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And if she was shagging someone else he wouldn’t be driving around in a Navara I’ll tell you that for nothing lol.
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And if she was shagging someone else he wouldn’t be driving around in a Navara I’ll tell you that for nothing lol.
Yep, we're all very convinced buddy!!👍
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🤣🤣🤣 don’t kid yourself pal if we aren’t shagging someone else we all want to be.
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On a Truck ;D
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1590946447_new truck.jpg)
You'd have been better off buying a Ford.
It would have been The Loan Ranger. And when you'd nearly paid it off and owed about 80p you could have said "I owe silver".
I'll get my coat on to leave.
I'm here all week. don't say I didn't (William) Tell you.
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Just a word of caution on the soft opener. I had one fitted from new on my Ranger. That failed, so they fitted two and they both failed too. Fitted by the Ford dealership. In the end I just gave up.
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Just a word of caution on the soft opener. I had one fitted from new on my Ranger. That failed, so they fitted two and they both failed too. Fitted by the Ford dealership. In the end I just gave up.
Yes I can imagine they will wear out with the amount of times it will be opened and closed in a day. Will see how long it lasts, I don't mind replacing it periodically if it lasts a few months.. it was only a tenner.
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Just a word of caution on the soft opener. I had one fitted from new on my Ranger. That failed, so they fitted two and they both failed too. Fitted by the Ford dealership. In the end I just gave up.
Yes I can imagine they will wear out with the amount of times it will be opened and closed in a day. Will see how long it lasts, I don't mind replacing it periodically if it lasts a few months.. it was only a tenner.
Nice truck
Could you fix a chain just a little longer than the opener so if and when if fails, it wouldn’t crash down?
Tony
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If you are happy with it pal... that's all that matters.👍 I reckon NWH's wife is shagging someone else!!👍😆
yep thats all thats matters.........what a mess though..........buying a new truck and then putting a rusty old manual reel in the back and poles just squeezed into the top space at an angle..... ::)roll ;D.......rather him than me.......he should of stuck with his van......
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If you are happy with it pal... that's all that matters.👍 I reckon NWH's wife is shagging someone else!!👍😆
yep thats all thats matters.........what a mess though..........buying a new truck and then putting a rusty old manual reel in the back and poles just squeezed into the top space at an angle..... ::)roll ;D.......rather him than me.......he should of stuck with his van......
;D ;D say it how it is Daz ;D
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;D ;D ;D ;D.
Tactful as usual
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If you are happy with it pal... that's all that matters.👍 I reckon NWH's wife is shagging someone else!!👍😆
yep thats all thats matters.........what a mess though..........buying a new truck and then putting a rusty old manual reel in the back and poles just squeezed into the top space at an angle..... ::)roll ;D.......rather him than me.......he should of stuck with his van......
Reel was temporary for a few days because my double stack reel didnt fit and the one i had ordered hadnt turned up...
Ive got a new one today
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1592250361_daz2.jpg)
And the rest of the system was from stuff i had in the garage, it might be a bit rough but it puts water to glass as well as any...
When i sell my van (which im in the process of repairing and tidying up) ill get a custom tank and a nicer setup if thats alright with you Daz
Not quite sure where you would suggest i put the poles though, an angle on top is about the only place they will go.
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I have a Cox Reel in my garage where do you live.
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What’s wrong with them being at an angle? They fit in the back what difference does it make if they are straight?
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I know where you can put the poles but it might hurt dazmond ;D ;D ;D ;D
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What’s wrong with them being at an angle? They fit in the back what difference does it make if they are straight?
They need to be straight and in pole holders......I like a neat,orderly van/workspace with everything in its place.... ;D
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Vans are obviously more practical, essential for me as I do softwashing and pressure washing, I need the room.
Trucks have there place, will be really interesting to see how you’re getting on in a year or so Adam.
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Vans are obviously more practical, essential for me as I do softwashing and pressure washing, I need the room.
Trucks have there place, will be really interesting to see how you’re getting on in a year or so Adam.
I agree they are more practical unless you dont need the room.
The verdict so far is there is not much difference between the two. The big advantage is the angle i can pull the hose and not having the doors in the way makes for easier working.
The biggest downside is not being able to hide in the back for a pee, but ive come up with a solution now although van wins for a mobile toilet.
Other than that theres nothing in it, it just boils down to space which there is plenty of for a solo operator doing windows only.
The truck is showing 25.8 mpg average in the 3 days ive used it this week solely for work. So obv dont buy one if you want economy, that said my van is showing 32mpg averaged over the last 3k miles with a mix of work and personal so the truck wont be that far behind once it starts get used for mixed driving.
So far its great just a different driving position which you get used to.
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I actually have a ‘wagon’ style lift up single door on my transit custom Adam, for the very reason you said, the angle of the hose. I love it!
Yeah, trucks can be useful, but for me it’d be totally impractical, the plan was to one day get one purely as a second work vehicle for softwashing only.
That won’t be happening for a while though.
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You can get wide enclosed carriers for the roofs of 4x4s,that would be the best bet for your poles.
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Tint your back windows , sit in the back seat with a bottle ?
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Tint your back windows , sit in the back seat with a bottle ?
Rear seats flip up so can kneel in the back, put my coat over the opposite window which I was facing. Sorted
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Vans are obviously more practical, essential for me as I do softwashing and pressure washing, I need the room.
Trucks have there place, will be really interesting to see how you’re getting on in a year or so Adam.
I agree they are more practical unless you dont need the room.
The verdict so far is there is not much difference between the two. The big advantage is the angle i can pull the hose and not having the doors in the way makes for easier working.
The biggest downside is not being able to hide in the back for a pee, but ive come up with a solution now although van wins for a mobile toilet.
Other than that theres nothing in it, it just boils down to space which there is plenty of for a solo operator doing windows only.
The truck is showing 25.8 mpg average in the 3 days ive used it this week solely for work. So obv dont buy one if you want economy, that said my van is showing 32mpg averaged over the last 3k miles with a mix of work and personal so the truck wont be that far behind once it starts get used for mixed driving.
So far its great just a different driving position which you get used to.
Aye it will. All I've done in mine is drive back and forward to work (10 miles either way). I drive like a pensioner, I've carried no weight and I've fitted an egr blank - 29.3mpg
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Vans are obviously more practical, essential for me as I do softwashing and pressure washing, I need the room.
Trucks have there place, will be really interesting to see how you’re getting on in a year or so Adam.
I agree they are more practical unless you dont need the room.
The verdict so far is there is not much difference between the two. The big advantage is the angle i can pull the hose and not having the doors in the way makes for easier working.
The biggest downside is not being able to hide in the back for a pee, but ive come up with a solution now although van wins for a mobile toilet.
Other than that theres nothing in it, it just boils down to space which there is plenty of for a solo operator doing windows only.
The truck is showing 25.8 mpg average in the 3 days ive used it this week solely for work. So obv dont buy one if you want economy, that said my van is showing 32mpg averaged over the last 3k miles with a mix of work and personal so the truck wont be that far behind once it starts get used for mixed driving.
So far its great just a different driving position which you get used to.
Aye it will. All I've done in mine is drive back and forward to work (10 miles either way). I drive like a pensioner, I've carried no weight and I've fitted an egr blank - 29.3mpg
29. 3 isn't that far behind 32 ;D
I'm happy with the mpg, 25.8 with about 700kg in it and stop start all day is better than I thought, I've had it doing over 30 when I first got it empty.
Think I will get the egr blank and a remap, that's supposed to be good for a couple mpg.
Wouldn't mind trying to get 30 out of it just for the sake of it but realistically it's probably going to be late 20s.
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Vans are obviously more practical, essential for me as I do softwashing and pressure washing, I need the room.
Trucks have there place, will be really interesting to see how you’re getting on in a year or so Adam.
I agree they are more practical unless you dont need the room.
The verdict so far is there is not much difference between the two. The big advantage is the angle i can pull the hose and not having the doors in the way makes for easier working.
The biggest downside is not being able to hide in the back for a pee, but ive come up with a solution now although van wins for a mobile toilet.
Other than that theres nothing in it, it just boils down to space which there is plenty of for a solo operator doing windows only.
The truck is showing 25.8 mpg average in the 3 days ive used it this week solely for work. So obv dont buy one if you want economy, that said my van is showing 32mpg averaged over the last 3k miles with a mix of work and personal so the truck wont be that far behind once it starts get used for mixed driving.
So far its great just a different driving position which you get used to.
Aye it will. All I've done in mine is drive back and forward to work (10 miles either way). I drive like a pensioner, I've carried no weight and I've fitted an egr blank - 29.3mpg
29. 3 isn't that far behind 32 ;D
I'm happy with the mpg, 25.8 with about 700kg in it and stop start all day is better than I thought, I've had it doing over 30 when I first got it empty.
Think I will get the egr blank and a remap, that's supposed to be good for a couple mpg.
Wouldn't mind trying to get 30 out of it just for the sake of it but realistically it's probably going to be late 20s.
EGR blank is a definite, £3 and it takes two minutes, sounds better after, I don't like re-maps.
I need to change my tyres, I have BFG ATs on there...
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Vans are obviously more practical, essential for me as I do softwashing and pressure washing, I need the room.
Trucks have there place, will be really interesting to see how you’re getting on in a year or so Adam.
I agree they are more practical unless you dont need the room.
The verdict so far is there is not much difference between the two. The big advantage is the angle i can pull the hose and not having the doors in the way makes for easier working.
The biggest downside is not being able to hide in the back for a pee, but ive come up with a solution now although van wins for a mobile toilet.
Other than that theres nothing in it, it just boils down to space which there is plenty of for a solo operator doing windows only.
The truck is showing 25.8 mpg average in the 3 days ive used it this week solely for work. So obv dont buy one if you want economy, that said my van is showing 32mpg averaged over the last 3k miles with a mix of work and personal so the truck wont be that far behind once it starts get used for mixed driving.
So far its great just a different driving position which you get used to.
Aye it will. All I've done in mine is drive back and forward to work (10 miles either way). I drive like a pensioner, I've carried no weight and I've fitted an egr blank - 29.3mpg
29. 3 isn't that far behind 32 ;D
I'm happy with the mpg, 25.8 with about 700kg in it and stop start all day is better than I thought, I've had it doing over 30 when I first got it empty.
Think I will get the egr blank and a remap, that's supposed to be good for a couple mpg.
Wouldn't mind trying to get 30 out of it just for the sake of it but realistically it's probably going to be late 20s.
EGR blank is a definite, £3 and it takes two minutes, sounds better after, I don't like re-maps.
I need to change my tyres, I have BFG ATs on there...
I don't know how aggressive your BFG's are but you might find you get close to 30 mpg on more road focused tyres.
I used to run Bridgestone Dueller HT on mine and they gave around another 2 mpg.