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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Stoots on November 25, 2021, 01:37:50 pm
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Anyone used them ?
Normally use gardiners but the xline carbon nano is in the black Friday sale and works out almost 200 quid cheaper than the equivalent extreme. As far as I can see weights are almost identical....
What are they like ? Clamps any good ?
Cheers
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I wouldn’t compare any pole to an extreme I have an Ova 8 Hi Mod and although it’s a very good pole indeed it’s not as good as an Extreme.
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I use the Ova if I have a tight squeeze somewhere or I need to go at an angle when cleaning a roof etc as it doesn’t spin,as far as everyday window cleaning goes I’ll use the Extreme.
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Sorry off on a tangent about Ova 8 poles but I think the pole you are on about is just there version of a pole a lot of manufacturers used to sell or very similar,I bet it comes with a Chinese money off voucher 🤣🤣.
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Anyone used them ?
Normally use gardiners but the xline carbon nano is in the black Friday sale and works out almost 200 quid cheaper than the equivalent extreme. As far as I can see weights are almost identical....
What are they like ? Clamps any good ?
Cheers
I've just ordered a 25 footer Adam..I need another main pole so I thought I'd try one out....
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Anyone used them ?
Normally use gardiners but the xline carbon nano is in the black Friday sale and works out almost 200 quid cheaper than the equivalent extreme. As far as I can see weights are almost identical....
What are they like ? Clamps any good ?
Cheers
I've just ordered a 25 footer Adam..I need another main pole so I thought I'd try one out....
Nice one Daz
Just ordered an 18, the extreme 25 is feeling heavy ;D
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It works out nearly £200 cheaper than the equivalent xtreme 25....I'm not interested in xlines brushes or goosenecks though....
I just hope my carbon gooseneck fits in the xline pole...
It's the first time I've strayed from Gardiner poles in many years!i just hope they are as good... ;D
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Sorry off on a tangent about Ova 8 poles but I think the pole you are on about is just there version of a pole a lot of manufacturers used to sell or very similar,I bet it comes with a Chinese money off voucher 🤣🤣.
Unless you ve bought an xline nano pole I'd shut your gob mate..... ;D
Your second guessing again.....
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Sorry off on a tangent about Ova 8 poles but I think the pole you are on about is just there version of a pole a lot of manufacturers used to sell or very similar,I bet it comes with a Chinese money off voucher 🤣🤣.
Unless you ve bought an xline nano pole I'd shut your gob mate..... ;D
Your second guessing again.....
A bit like the person who's never modified a brush!!👍😁
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My hunch is the clamps wont be as good, apart from that probably similar...
No i wont be buying the brushes either they are far too heavy, stick with extreme
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Put it beside the Extreme should take about .5 of a second to spot the inferior product.
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Sorry off on a tangent about Ova 8 poles but I think the pole you are on about is just there version of a pole a lot of manufacturers used to sell or very similar,I bet it comes with a Chinese money off voucher 🤣🤣.
Unless you ve bought an xline nano pole I'd shut your gob mate..... ;D
Your second guessing again.....
A bit the person who's never modified a brush!!👍😁
A bit the person ? is that Jethro talking is it 🤣🤣
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Sorry off on a tangent about Ova 8 poles but I think the pole you are on about is just there version of a pole a lot of manufacturers used to sell or very similar,I bet it comes with a Chinese money off voucher 🤣🤣.
Unless you ve bought an xline nano pole I'd shut your gob mate..... ;D
Your second guessing again.....
A bit the person who's never modified a brush!!👍😁
Never felt the need to as they clean fine as they are....
I did cut the bottom row of bristles off an Xtreme sill because of you.... ;D...then I couldn't clean the sills properly so binned it! ;D
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Put it beside the Extreme should take about .5 of a second to spot the inferior product.
If it is I'll let you know.....
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Spent 100s trying to convince myself otherwise and it’s never worked yet Daz.
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I took the plunge and bought an 18ft Nano last black friday. My big concern was how long it would last as there was no where near as much adjustment gap in the clamps as there is with Gardiner clamps. One year on and clamp no1 has very little adjustment left in it but is still gripping fine. I work full time 5 to 6 days a week and this pole covers 95% of my work. I bought a spare clamp and fitted it yesterday just to see if changing the clamp would extend the lifespan or whether it was wear and tear on the pole section itself and delighted to find the new clamp looks like it has plenty of room for adjustment in it so now more confident i may get several more months out of it. The plus side of these clamps is that you don't have to adjust them as often as you do with the Gardiners ones and also they are removable with an allen key rather than glued on and at less than £8 a clamp then if your buying a pole just get a spare no 1 clamp, at that price its not an issue. (not disputing that Gardiners clamps are superior though). Also, the end cap wears out much faster than a Gardiners one so would be a good idea to get a couple of spares but again at £3.83 its not a problem
The pole itself is a pleasure to use, very light, very rigid , so much so it would be very difficult going back to a clx/slx , the same has been said about the Extreme. I've never used an Extreme so cant make a direct comparison but nevertheless, there are some black and white differences, the main one being the price as already mentioned, a significant saving on the Nano. The weight is very similar, just 30 to 40 g heavier than an extreme (for a 18ft). another good point to bear in mind is that my plastic Gardiners goosenecks fit ,the metal screw thread is supplied loose so i can use all the Gardiners goodies with it.
You have to treat it with care just the same way you would an Extreme, i wash it through a couple of time a week and once a month take it to bits and give a good going over with ptfe spray. Having said this, i've dropped it no end of times and its come to no harm. I've also put a strip of electrical tape at the base of each section as these are the areas that start to splinter.
If i can get another 6 months out of it i'll be well chuffed but happy its come through some heavy use over a full year.
For me, the price makes it a no brainer. Obviously i cant comment on the larger poles, Xline claim their pole is stronger than the Extreme but then again they would wouldn't they, just as Alex would favour his own. Hope that's helped abit, i've just ordered another for stock so voting with my wallet.
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Thanks for your review mate.....
Does the pole give off a lot of carbon dust?
This is one of the things I hate about the Gardiner poles...within a couple of months my hands are black unless I have gloves on.....
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Its just started to leave my hands black, but not as much as my slx does.
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I bought 3 new xtreme sections earlier on in the year and added them to sections 4 and 5 of an existing xtreme....my section 4 is splintered in the middle of the section and all 3 of the new sections are splintered at the bottom already...another few months and they'll be fit for the bin....
I do abuse them though as I have lots of awkward windows to clean most days so my pole is regularly fully extended at 25ft,quite a few times horizontally....
I do flush them out and wipe my pole hose but not as often as I should and I hate the tape at the bottom of sections.... ::)roll
It always ends up getting chewed up in the clamp....does my head in and I end up removing it!
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They always say they are stronger that’s because they are heavier.
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Mmm, they do a thirty footer too which I don’t think Gardiners have in the Xtreme range.
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Yeah and for a moment I thought we were talking about a new pole that’s come to market,I’ve had other so called light poles been like a kid at Christmas 🎄 unboxing it only to realise it’s just another heavy pole to go on EBay.
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If you want a cheaper high mod pole buy a boss pole. Boss poles sections and gardiner sections are exactly the same. They are all made by CNER just different clamps.
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If you want a cheaper high mod pole buy a boss pole. Boss poles sections and gardiner sections are exactly the same. They are all made by CNER just different clamps.
Hi Lee
Just fact-checking you on this :)
Whilst Boss' poles latest finish (and many other brands) have been made to emulate our original pole's finishes and sizes they are not the same poles and they are not made by the same factory.
Despite some factories claiming to make the Gardiner range of poles when touting for business, CNER and other 'known' China factories do not make our carbon pole products or parts.
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That’s why good old Perry from Reach-It spends all his time in China getting them to make rubbish products people don’t need,take the gunslinger for 1 example what the guarantee should say is that you will guaranteed to get a wet leg and a WFP that is cutting edge in design technology because you put the pole hose on the outside of the pole lol.
Let me know if you get a refund I’ll get you entered in to the Book of world records.
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I had a xline carbon pole not the nano one i found it very strong but bit top heavy compared to the slx the nano may be different tho so im keen to here your reviews i also found it did not last as long mine was ment to come with a alan key but they forgot to put it in the box ::)roll
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Anyone getting fed up with black hands from carbon i now use red gloves from b&q they keep hands warm to i have 3 pairs so if or when they get wet i change them over
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I took the plunge and bought an 18ft Nano last black friday. My big concern was how long it would last as there was no where near as much adjustment gap in the clamps as there is with Gardiner clamps. One year on and clamp no1 has very little adjustment left in it but is still gripping fine. I work full time 5 to 6 days a week and this pole covers 95% of my work. I bought a spare clamp and fitted it yesterday just to see if changing the clamp would extend the lifespan or whether it was wear and tear on the pole section itself and delighted to find the new clamp looks like it has plenty of room for adjustment in it so now more confident i may get several more months out of it. The plus side of these clamps is that you don't have to adjust them as often as you do with the Gardiners ones and also they are removable with an allen key rather than glued on and at less than £8 a clamp then if your buying a pole just get a spare no 1 clamp, at that price its not an issue. (not disputing that Gardiners clamps are superior though). Also, the end cap wears out much faster than a Gardiners one so would be a good idea to get a couple of spares but again at £3.83 its not a problem
The pole itself is a pleasure to use, very light, very rigid , so much so it would be very difficult going back to a clx/slx , the same has been said about the Extreme. I've never used an Extreme so cant make a direct comparison but nevertheless, there are some black and white differences, the main one being the price as already mentioned, a significant saving on the Nano. The weight is very similar, just 30 to 40 g heavier than an extreme (for a 18ft). another good point to bear in mind is that my plastic Gardiners goosenecks fit ,the metal screw thread is supplied loose so i can use all the Gardiners goodies with it.
You have to treat it with care just the same way you would an Extreme, i wash it through a couple of time a week and once a month take it to bits and give a good going over with ptfe spray. Having said this, i've dropped it no end of times and its come to no harm. I've also put a strip of electrical tape at the base of each section as these are the areas that start to splinter.
If i can get another 6 months out of it i'll be well chuffed but happy its come through some heavy use over a full year.
For me, the price makes it a no brainer. Obviously i cant comment on the larger poles, Xline claim their pole is stronger than the Extreme but then again they would wouldn't they, just as Alex would favour his own. Hope that's helped abit, i've just ordered another for stock so voting with my wallet.
I've never worn an end cap out on any pole I've ever had!the pole is ready for the bin before that! ;D
What are you doing with it?using it as a pogo stick? ;D
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I took the plunge and bought an 18ft Nano last black friday. My big concern was how long it would last as there was no where near as much adjustment gap in the clamps as there is with Gardiner clamps. One year on and clamp no1 has very little adjustment left in it but is still gripping fine. I work full time 5 to 6 days a week and this pole covers 95% of my work. I bought a spare clamp and fitted it yesterday just to see if changing the clamp would extend the lifespan or whether it was wear and tear on the pole section itself and delighted to find the new clamp looks like it has plenty of room for adjustment in it so now more confident i may get several more months out of it. The plus side of these clamps is that you don't have to adjust them as often as you do with the Gardiners ones and also they are removable with an allen key rather than glued on and at less than £8 a clamp then if your buying a pole just get a spare no 1 clamp, at that price its not an issue. (not disputing that Gardiners clamps are superior though). Also, the end cap wears out much faster than a Gardiners one so would be a good idea to get a couple of spares but again at £3.83 its not a problem
The pole itself is a pleasure to use, very light, very rigid , so much so it would be very difficult going back to a clx/slx , the same has been said about the Extreme. I've never used an Extreme so cant make a direct comparison but nevertheless, there are some black and white differences, the main one being the price as already mentioned, a significant saving on the Nano. The weight is very similar, just 30 to 40 g heavier than an extreme (for a 18ft). another good point to bear in mind is that my plastic Gardiners goosenecks fit ,the metal screw thread is supplied loose so i can use all the Gardiners goodies with it.
You have to treat it with care just the same way you would an Extreme, i wash it through a couple of time a week and once a month take it to bits and give a good going over with ptfe spray. Having said this, i've dropped it no end of times and its come to no harm. I've also put a strip of electrical tape at the base of each section as these are the areas that start to splinter.
If i can get another 6 months out of it i'll be well chuffed but happy its come through some heavy use over a full year.
For me, the price makes it a no brainer. Obviously i cant comment on the larger poles, Xline claim their pole is stronger than the Extreme but then again they would wouldn't they, just as Alex would favour his own. Hope that's helped abit, i've just ordered another for stock so voting with my wallet.
I've never worn an end cap out on any pole I've ever had!the pole is ready for the bin before that! ;D
What are you doing with it?using it as a pogo stick? ;D
I've never worn a Gardiners end cap out, im about to fit my 3rd on the Nano!, a quality pole with a naff cheap thin plastic cap, definitely keep some spares in mate.
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It’s not a new pole Daz those clamps have been around for years keep an Alan key on you you’ll need it.
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It’s not a new pole Daz those clamps have been around for years keep an Alan key on you you’ll need it.
Give it a few months and he will be regretting his decision to buy it 😂😂😂😂
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It’s not a new pole Daz those clamps have been around for years keep an Alan key on you you’ll need it.
You only need an Allen key to remove the clamp, it adjusts by turning a screw as you basically do with a Gardiners clamp so the only time you need the key is when your stripping the pole down for spraying and when you change clamp 1 (once a year).. Your last post was your tenth on a thread specifically about a pole you've never owned and know nothing about, your ignorance is quite staggering.
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That’s why good old Perry from Reach-It spends all his time in China getting them to make rubbish products people don’t need,take the gunslinger for 1 example what the guarantee should say is that you will guaranteed to get a wet leg and a WFP that is cutting edge in design technology because you put the pole hose on the outside of the pole lol.
Let me know if you get a refund I’ll get you entered in to the Book of world records.
You should start another thread regarding Reach it products can’t see what it as to do with another Nano pole myself 🙄
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It’s not a new pole Daz those clamps have been around for years keep an Alan key on you you’ll need it.
You only need an Allen key to remove the clamp, it adjusts by turning a screw as you basically do with a Gardiners clamp so the only time you need the key is when your stripping the pole down for spraying and when you change clamp 1 (once a year).. Your last post was your tenth on a thread specifically about a pole you've never owned and know nothing about, your ignorance is quite staggering.
I think it's time to stop replying to this guy....he s a complete idiot....
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I took the plunge and bought an 18ft Nano last black friday. My big concern was how long it would last as there was no where near as much adjustment gap in the clamps as there is with Gardiner clamps. One year on and clamp no1 has very little adjustment left in it but is still gripping fine. I work full time 5 to 6 days a week and this pole covers 95% of my work. I bought a spare clamp and fitted it yesterday just to see if changing the clamp would extend the lifespan or whether it was wear and tear on the pole section itself and delighted to find the new clamp looks like it has plenty of room for adjustment in it so now more confident i may get several more months out of it. The plus side of these clamps is that you don't have to adjust them as often as you do with the Gardiners ones and also they are removable with an allen key rather than glued on and at less than £8 a clamp then if your buying a pole just get a spare no 1 clamp, at that price its not an issue. (not disputing that Gardiners clamps are superior though). Also, the end cap wears out much faster than a Gardiners one so would be a good idea to get a couple of spares but again at £3.83 its not a problem
The pole itself is a pleasure to use, very light, very rigid , so much so it would be very difficult going back to a clx/slx , the same has been said about the Extreme. I've never used an Extreme so cant make a direct comparison but nevertheless, there are some black and white differences, the main one being the price as already mentioned, a significant saving on the Nano. The weight is very similar, just 30 to 40 g heavier than an extreme (for a 18ft). another good point to bear in mind is that my plastic Gardiners goosenecks fit ,the metal screw thread is supplied loose so i can use all the Gardiners goodies with it.
You have to treat it with care just the same way you would an Extreme, i wash it through a couple of time a week and once a month take it to bits and give a good going over with ptfe spray. Having said this, i've dropped it no end of times and its come to no harm. I've also put a strip of electrical tape at the base of each section as these are the areas that start to splinter.
If i can get another 6 months out of it i'll be well chuffed but happy its come through some heavy use over a full year.
For me, the price makes it a no brainer. Obviously i cant comment on the larger poles, Xline claim their pole is stronger than the Extreme but then again they would wouldn't they, just as Alex would favour his own. Hope that's helped abit, i've just ordered another for stock so voting with my wallet.
I've never worn an end cap out on any pole I've ever had!the pole is ready for the bin before that! ;D
What are you doing with it?using it as a pogo stick? ;D
I've never worn a Gardiners end cap out, im about to fit my 3rd on the Nano!, a quality pole with a naff cheap thin plastic cap, definitely keep some spares in mate.
Can't you just fit a Gardiners end cap?
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I took the plunge and bought an 18ft Nano last black friday. My big concern was how long it would last as there was no where near as much adjustment gap in the clamps as there is with Gardiner clamps. One year on and clamp no1 has very little adjustment left in it but is still gripping fine. I work full time 5 to 6 days a week and this pole covers 95% of my work. I bought a spare clamp and fitted it yesterday just to see if changing the clamp would extend the lifespan or whether it was wear and tear on the pole section itself and delighted to find the new clamp looks like it has plenty of room for adjustment in it so now more confident i may get several more months out of it. The plus side of these clamps is that you don't have to adjust them as often as you do with the Gardiners ones and also they are removable with an allen key rather than glued on and at less than £8 a clamp then if your buying a pole just get a spare no 1 clamp, at that price its not an issue. (not disputing that Gardiners clamps are superior though). Also, the end cap wears out much faster than a Gardiners one so would be a good idea to get a couple of spares but again at £3.83 its not a problem
The pole itself is a pleasure to use, very light, very rigid , so much so it would be very difficult going back to a clx/slx , the same has been said about the Extreme. I've never used an Extreme so cant make a direct comparison but nevertheless, there are some black and white differences, the main one being the price as already mentioned, a significant saving on the Nano. The weight is very similar, just 30 to 40 g heavier than an extreme (for a 18ft). another good point to bear in mind is that my plastic Gardiners goosenecks fit ,the metal screw thread is supplied loose so i can use all the Gardiners goodies with it.
You have to treat it with care just the same way you would an Extreme, i wash it through a couple of time a week and once a month take it to bits and give a good going over with ptfe spray. Having said this, i've dropped it no end of times and its come to no harm. I've also put a strip of electrical tape at the base of each section as these are the areas that start to splinter.
If i can get another 6 months out of it i'll be well chuffed but happy its come through some heavy use over a full year.
For me, the price makes it a no brainer. Obviously i cant comment on the larger poles, Xline claim their pole is stronger than the Extreme but then again they would wouldn't they, just as Alex would favour his own. Hope that's helped abit, i've just ordered another for stock so voting with my wallet.
I've never worn an end cap out on any pole I've ever had!the pole is ready for the bin before that! ;D
What are you doing with it?using it as a pogo stick? ;D
I've never worn a Gardiners end cap out, im about to fit my 3rd on the Nano!, a quality pole with a naff cheap thin plastic cap, definitely keep some spares in mate.
Can't you just fit a Gardiners end cap?
Not sure about that. Xline do 2 end caps themselves, strangely the nylon better quality one fits their cheaper poles but not the nano so not sure if the Gardiners one would either.
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You’ve got that pole for the same reasons as me give another pole a try they sound good,you’ll come to the same conclusion that bit extra is worth it.
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It’s not a new pole Daz those clamps have been around for years keep an Alan key on you you’ll need it.
Give it a few months and he will be regretting his decision to buy it 😂😂😂😂
It will be the best pole ever for a few weeks mind.
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It’s not a new pole Daz those clamps have been around for years keep an Alan key on you you’ll need it.
Give it a few months and he will be regretting his decision to buy it 😂😂😂😂
It will be the best pole ever for a few weeks mind.
Yes I expect it will 😂😂😂😂
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My nano 18 arrived today.
First impressions are :
Clamps dont look and feel as good as gardiners but maybe thats just because im not used to them.
The wall thickness seems to be thicker than the extreme but it is about 50g heavier coming in at 805 grams on my scales so that will be where the weight is. Im hoping it is stronger as it does look it.
Wont be using it for a while as need to get some new brushes and univalve so the full review can wait, looks decent though for the money.
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It’ll feel better once some of that spray on carbon look wears down a bit don’t worry.
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My nano 18 arrived today.
First impressions are :
Clamps dont look and feel as good as gardiners but maybe thats just because im not used to them.
The wall thickness seems to be thicker than the extreme but it is about 50g heavier coming in at 805 grams on my scales so that will be where the weight is. Im hoping it is stronger as it does look it.
Wont be using it for a while as need to get some new brushes and univalve so the full review can wait, looks decent though for the money.
I put some new pole hose and a new uni valve in my new pole...
First impressions are the pole is slighter heavier than an Xtreme,longer closed length(only an inch)the end cap looks naff and flimsy,the clamps seem fine....
Using it tomorrow for the first time
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And even after months of use you won’t be able to close it like a cosh like you can an Extreme.
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First impressions today and the pole feels good,slightly heavier than the xtreme but still light,it almost sits in between an slx and xtreme...I also think its slightly more rigid fully extended at a virtually horizontal angle...
I'm not too sure about the clamps though,their fine for now but there seems to be very little room for adjustment when the pole starts to wear...
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Like the Hi Mod Ova pole it feels as if it sits between the 2 poles you said and slightly more ridged at height I agree,sounds like it’s made from the same grade.
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Yeh I'd say it seems like it sits between slx and extreme. Which I guess for the price is what you would expect. Interested to see how long it lasts as both my extremes snapped within months.
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I've had to put a wrap of insulation tape on my carbon gooseneck so the top clamp can grip it tight to stop it slipping as there's just no adjustment in the clamp left...
Shame about the clamps really as the actual carbon pole feels a bit more rigid and stronger than an Xtreme pole....
Personally I can't see the clamps lasting 6 months!
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I've had to put a wrap of insulation tape on my carbon gooseneck so the top clamp can grip it tight to stop it slipping as there's just no adjustment in the clamp left...
Shame about the clamps really as the actual carbon pole feels a bit more rigid and stronger than an Xtreme pole....
Personally I can't see the clamps lasting 6 months!
Ive seen them modified with the phantom clamps, doubt gardiners ones will fit...
Not used my pole yet
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I've had to put a wrap of insulation tape on my carbon gooseneck so the top clamp can grip it tight to stop it slipping as there's just no adjustment in the clamp left...
Shame about the clamps really as the actual carbon pole feels a bit more rigid and stronger than an Xtreme pole....
Personally I can't see the clamps lasting 6 months!
Thats exactly what i thought this time last year, so much so i rang xline to voice my concerns a couple of times and said i doubt i'll get 6 months out of it.. Spoke to a young lad who recommended getting a new clamp (1) when the time came to it as he was sure the pole section would be ok. I was sceptical (and have been all year) but here we are a whole year later and i've still got the original clamps on, i expect clamp 1 to need changing come the new year so 13months out of it. and its been in constant use. As i said on a previous post, i fitted the new clamp just to see if it would make a difference and there's a good 3mm of adjustment room so hoping now to get several more months out of the pole barring mishaps. The pole definetely doesn't wear down as fast as Gardiners poles (Cant comment on the xtreme) and hence you don't need to adjust it so often. Flush it through regularly, ptfe spray it once a month and it'll be fine Daz. Better to to changing an £8 clamp which is a 2 min job once a year than having to buy replacement sections for a broken xtreme imo for an already expensive pole. It'll be interesting to see how you and Stoots feel about it in a years time as you can both give an "informed"opinion on how they compare having used both. Have to say i love using it, i expected it to be a power puff of a pole given its in the same bracket as an xtreme but really surprised at how strong it feels.
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Time will tell.....the pole also feels quite stiff and jerky when extending the sections,ive tried loosening the clamps a bit but they don't grip properly then..it'll probably be smoother when the pole starts to wear
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And once it does wear the clamps won’t grip my Ova pole didn’t slide easily because the sections were so tight,now it’s worn the clamps really need doing up it’s a great design though no spinning every pole tbh should have that feature so it doesn’t spin solves a lot of problems.
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And once it does wear the clamps won’t grip my Ova pole didn’t slide easily because the sections were so tight,now it’s worn the clamps really need doing up it’s a great design though no spinning every pole tbh should have that feature so it doesn’t spin solves a lot of problems.
Gardiner smart clamps don't spin if you replace the little springs once in a while.👍
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i never thought of new little springs should i do this ?
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i never thought of new little springs should i do this ?
Yes, it makes smart clamps smart again. I had a spinning section I was convinced was too worn, new spring and working like new again.👍
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thanks man ill get some of those
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thanks man ill get some of those
A little drop of 3 in 1 oil (or similar) when you put them too.👍
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So i used the 18ft nano for the first time today.
Coupled it with an extreme sill brush and away i went.....
First thing i noticed was the clamps are more awkward than gardiners, with the opening mechanism, further round the pole you either have to twist the pole to use your thumb or use your fingers instead. Second thing is the pole is very grippy on the base section, my hands didnt slide over it easily with gloves on, something i didnt like.
The sections dont slide out that easily, you have to pull them out, i messed with the clamps but didnt solve it. Also when collapsing the pole it doesnt drop as easy you have to almost pull the pole back in.
After using for about 7 houses i switched over to my extreme to reach some 3 storeys, i was expecting it to feel heavier instantly (its a 25ft with an ultimate brush and number 1 section is from an slx) but tbh it didnt feel much different....
As soon as i extended the extreme i knew the clamps were much better, you can throw the pole out it doesnt need any effort unlike the nano. Also open the clamp and the pole drops sharply, the nano doesnt. Clamps on the gardiners are faster to use and the pole just felt better.
I then went back to the nano and this confirmed my thoughts, infact when you extend the pole as far as it will go the clamps actually jam and you have to really push to collapse it.
Once id gone back to the extreme again for another job i didnt even bother going back to the nano for the rest of the day, it felt kind of pointless.
So my conclusion, just as i expected before i ordered one, is that the clamps are dog turd. Actually thats unfair they arent bad, certainly not the worst ive used, they are just ok but not a patch on gardiners or phantom clamps.
I have an old phantom pole in the shed, i think im going to try and put the clamps on the nano to see if they fit, if they do i reckon ive got a nice pole. If they dont i might stick it on ebay :) Reason i bought it was to improve upon my extreme 25 for smaller houses in terms of being lighter and easier to use but i dont think it achives this so its kind of pointless.
If i had never used an extreme i would say its a very good pole but NWH was right this time im afraid ::)roll
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i never thought of new little springs should i do this ?
Yes, it makes smart clamps smart again. I had a spinning section I was convinced was too worn, new spring and working like new again.👍
Replace the delrin shims whilst there too. Makes it work almost like new. I wouldn’t put any oil on it though.
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So i used the 18ft nano for the first time today.
Coupled it with an extreme sill brush and away i went.....
First thing i noticed was the clamps are more awkward than gardiners, with the opening mechanism, further round the pole you either have to twist the pole to use your thumb or use your fingers instead. Second thing is the pole is very grippy on the base section, my hands didnt slide over it easily with gloves on, something i didnt like.
The sections dont slide out that easily, you have to pull them out, i messed with the clamps but didnt solve it. Also when collapsing the pole it doesnt drop as easy you have to almost pull the pole back in.
After using for about 7 houses i switched over to my extreme to reach some 3 storeys, i was expecting it to feel heavier instantly (its a 25ft with an ultimate brush and number 1 section is from an slx) but tbh it didnt feel much different....
As soon as i extended the extreme i knew the clamps were much better, you can throw the pole out it doesnt need any effort unlike the nano. Also open the clamp and the pole drops sharply, the nano doesnt. Clamps on the gardiners are faster to use and the pole just felt better.
I then went back to the nano and this confirmed my thoughts, infact when you extend the pole as far as it will go the clamps actually jam and you have to really push to collapse it.
Once id gone back to the extreme again for another job i didnt even bother going back to the nano for the rest of the day, it felt kind of pointless.
So my conclusion, just as i expected before i ordered one, is that the clamps are dog turd. Actually thats unfair they arent bad, certainly not the worst ive used, they are just ok but not a patch on gardiners or phantom clamps.
I have an old phantom pole in the shed, i think im going to try and put the clamps on the nano to see if they fit, if they do i reckon ive got a nice pole. If they dont i might stick it on ebay :) Reason i bought it was to improve upon my extreme 25 for smaller houses in terms of being lighter and easier to use but i dont think it achives this so its kind of pointless.
If i had never used an extreme i would say its a very good pole but NWH was right this time im afraid ::)roll
Interesting to hear from someone who has both poles but really Stoots you've got to give it more than 5 mins before writing it off. The stiffness you describe wears off after a short time of use its just new, all poles are bit like that to start, it will glide just fine in a while once its worn in. I agree Gardiners clamps are better in as much as they last longer with more adjustment but honestly find the nano clamps more user friendly, when i use my slx after using the nano i feel the gardiners clamps are much more "clumsy" to use, its purely about what your used to as i never thought that about the slx clamps before using the nano. if you've been using other makes then theres always a period of adjustment whilst you get used to it. Itll be interesting if you do fit other makes of clamps to hear how you get on, i love the nano but its annoying that the little finishing touches let it down like the end caps which must surely be a cheap fix.
"further round the pole you either have to twist the pole to use your thumb or use your fingers instead. " i dont get what you mean by this, sounds like you havn't alined the brushhead with the clamps, if they're all lined up you shouldn't be twisting the pole .
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Just to slightly modify the last post, it will glide better in time as it wears but probably won't go into free fall like a used Gardiners pole does. I can see that being slightly less attractive on your bigger poles but not a problem on an 18 or 25footer. I find when a Gardiners pole is retracting that fast I'm having to adjust the clamp fairly frequently but obviously takes less time to retract. Not a problem for me on a smaller pole.
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So i used the 18ft nano for the first time today.
Coupled it with an extreme sill brush and away i went.....
First thing i noticed was the clamps are more awkward than gardiners, with the opening mechanism, further round the pole you either have to twist the pole to use your thumb or use your fingers instead. Second thing is the pole is very grippy on the base section, my hands didnt slide over it easily with gloves on, something i didnt like.
The sections dont slide out that easily, you have to pull them out, i messed with the clamps but didnt solve it. Also when collapsing the pole it doesnt drop as easy you have to almost pull the pole back in.
After using for about 7 houses i switched over to my extreme to reach some 3 storeys, i was expecting it to feel heavier instantly (its a 25ft with an ultimate brush and number 1 section is from an slx) but tbh it didnt feel much different....
As soon as i extended the extreme i knew the clamps were much better, you can throw the pole out it doesnt need any effort unlike the nano. Also open the clamp and the pole drops sharply, the nano doesnt. Clamps on the gardiners are faster to use and the pole just felt better.
I then went back to the nano and this confirmed my thoughts, infact when you extend the pole as far as it will go the clamps actually jam and you have to really push to collapse it.
Once id gone back to the extreme again for another job i didnt even bother going back to the nano for the rest of the day, it felt kind of pointless.
So my conclusion, just as i expected before i ordered one, is that the clamps are dog turd. Actually thats unfair they arent bad, certainly not the worst ive used, they are just ok but not a patch on gardiners or phantom clamps.
I have an old phantom pole in the shed, i think im going to try and put the clamps on the nano to see if they fit, if they do i reckon ive got a nice pole. If they dont i might stick it on ebay :) Reason i bought it was to improve upon my extreme 25 for smaller houses in terms of being lighter and easier to use but i dont think it achives this so its kind of pointless.
If i had never used an extreme i would say its a very good pole but NWH was right this time im afraid ::)roll
Interesting to hear from someone who has both poles but really Stoots you've got to give it more than 5 mins before writing it off. The stiffness you describe wears off after a short time of use its just new, all poles are bit like that to start, it will glide just fine in a while once its worn in. I agree Gardiners clamps are better in as much as they last longer with more adjustment but honestly find the nano clamps more user friendly, when i use my slx after using the nano i feel the gardiners clamps are much more "clumsy" to use, its purely about what your used to as i never thought that about the slx clamps before using the nano. if you've been using other makes then theres always a period of adjustment whilst you get used to it. Itll be interesting if you do fit other makes of clamps to hear how you get on, i love the nano but its annoying that the little finishing touches let it down like the end caps which must surely be a cheap fix.
"further round the pole you either have to twist the pole to use your thumb or use your fingers instead. " i dont get what you mean by this, sounds like you havn't alined the brushhead with the clamps, if they're all lined up you shouldn't be twisting the pole .
My clamps are definitely lined up, i cant work with a non aligned pole :)
When the nano clamps are closed the opener is on the back of the pole as oppposed to the side like gardiners. This means to use your thumb you either have to rotate your wrist round to the right or turn the pole left its not just in easy reach of the thumb like im used to. Its just a bit of an awkward action.
Ive seen on the facebook groups people changing the clamps for phantom ones so reckon that will solve it.
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I've got used to the clamps now....I haven't done much work though this week due to the awful weather!ive only worked 3 hours yesterday morning!
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I've got used to the clamps now....I haven't done much work though this week due to the awful weather!ive only worked 3 hours yesterday morning!
sounds like your standard working week ;D
Darran
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It's been a bad week weather wise, worked till 1 on Monday and Tuesday and came home after 2 hours today. Tomorrow looks dry then can't work Friday as its against my policy ;D
Try again next week.
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How are you getting on with these xline poles are they still going strong 💪
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How are you getting on with these xline poles are they still going strong 💪
Yep...I use Gardiner goosenecks and brushes with it though...
The nano pole is stronger,more rigid and slightly heavier than an xtreme pole but still lighter than an SLX....
I honestly think the xtreme pole is slightly too extreme...its too fragile because gardiners have tried to make the lightest pole possible but this compromises strength a tad too much for my liking....
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Now a nano pole with Gardiner clamps would be the perfect pole IMO....
The perfect balance between weight,rigidity and strength...