colin bird

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transit custom dpf
« on: June 13, 2018, 03:45:51 pm »
thanks for reading,i have a transit custom that ive had from new that is now two and a half years old.
i  use the van for window cleaning and all my work is within  a 10 mile radius from home when i use the van for personal use all journeys are only local,so im only ever doing short journeys.
ive heard that dpf filters can block if  van is only used on short journeys,to date ive not had a problem van has 25k on the clock.
at times the van sounds a bit odd,is this when the dpf is being regenerated ?
just wondered if anyone has had a problem with a dpf on a transit custom.
many thanks

zesty

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2018, 04:24:28 pm »
You should be fine, as long as it completes its cycle you’ll be ok, even if you stop the engine it will continue its dpf cycle when you go on the next journey.

The throttle will be a bit annoying and jumpy when it’s on the cycle, also it will accelerate quicker and feel more powerful as the ecu releases a few more horse power! And yes it gets noisy! The fan will be going full wack!

I tend to give mine some beans when it’s goong through the cycle, never had any problems.

Shrek

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2018, 04:52:16 pm »
I find it quite interesting that you’ve got the custom and not had any problems with it- according to my mechanic , I’m better off with the old shape transit instead of the custom because they have so many problems. He said don’t you wonder why there is so many 5 year old customs for sale for around £5/6 k ? And yet an old transit van get get around £4K .
Now I don’t know whether he’s talking b******s so I keep taking my tranny back to him every now and then with small problems so he can keep money coming in or whether he’s looking out for me and warning me against the custom

duncan h

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2018, 05:18:24 pm »
It simply works like this. The older the Transit, the better. Unfortunately the body's don't last 20 years

Shrek

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2018, 05:27:08 pm »
It simply works like this. The older the Transit, the better. Unfortunately the body's don't last 20 years

That’s a good point , the rust does my nut in on tranny’s , I keep putting stickers over the rust spots to hide them  ;D
Has anyone on here had a custom since they came out? And have they had any issues?

dd

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2018, 05:45:59 pm »
I have a 12 year old dispatch that I intend to keep as long as possible, because I believe any new van will have more potential problems due to increased technology (e.g. dpf) that is used to make them less polluting.

The most reliable van was probably the old toyota hiace, which you can no longer buy - the new version is a re-badged expert/dispatch.

dazmond

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2018, 05:50:35 pm »
just take it for a spin on the motorway for 20 mins and rag it in 3 rd gear at 50 mph until its stops regenerating.....this is what ive been told to do with newer vans with a DPF fitted.....

my transit connect is nearly 18 months old now and i do very little mileage too...in fact its only done just over 5k in mileage since new so im expecting this issue at some point in the future....
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dazmond

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2018, 05:52:31 pm »
I have a 12 year old dispatch that I intend to keep as long as possible, because I believe any new van will have more potential problems due to increased technology (e.g. dpf) that is used to make them less polluting.

The most reliable van was probably the old toyota hiace, which you can no longer buy - the new version is a re-badged expert/dispatch.

what a load of rubbish!just because a van  is newer and more modern doesnt mean you ll have more problems with it.. ::)roll
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DeLuce

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2018, 06:34:57 pm »
I thrash my van everywhere so it gets a proper good unclogging  ;D

The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2018, 06:40:24 pm »
I thrash my van everywhere so it gets a proper good unclogging  ;D

That's what she said  ;D ;D
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jonboywalton75

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2018, 07:13:36 pm »
My custom has done 37000 miles, I've had a new battery and some tyres, runs like a dream

zesty

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2018, 08:00:02 pm »
It simply works like this. The older the Transit, the better. Unfortunately the body's don't last 20 years

That’s a good point , the rust does my nut in on tranny’s , I keep putting stickers over the rust spots to hide them  ;D
Has anyone on here had a custom since they came out? And have they had any issues?

Yes mines a 63 plate, no problems at all other than needing the regular servicing etc... which is only a problem for the wallet.

Dazmond, the good thing about the customs is you know when it’s regenerating, as makes a different noise etc, so when’s it’s doing it’s thing I just give it the beans!!

dd

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2018, 10:05:27 pm »
I have a 12 year old dispatch that I intend to keep as long as possible, because I believe any new van will have more potential problems due to increased technology (e.g. dpf) that is used to make them less polluting.

The most reliable van was probably the old toyota hiace, which you can no longer buy - the new version is a re-badged expert/dispatch.

what a load of rubbish!just because a van  is newer and more modern doesnt mean you ll have more problems with it.. ::)roll
Well, I have had no problems with it in the 12 years plus I have owned it. I do seem to hear a lot about problems people have with new vans though.

But based on your experience of having done 5000 miles in a new van I suppose I must be talking a load of rubbish.

Spruce

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2018, 10:06:27 pm »
Does Dazmond's van have a dpf filter?
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dazmond

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2018, 10:08:18 pm »
Does Dazmond's van have a dpf filter?

of course spruce...all new diesel vans have DPFs fitted as standard.....
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dazmond

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2018, 10:10:41 pm »
I have a 12 year old dispatch that I intend to keep as long as possible, because I believe any new van will have more potential problems due to increased technology (e.g. dpf) that is used to make them less polluting.

The most reliable van was probably the old toyota hiace, which you can no longer buy - the new version is a re-badged expert/dispatch.

what a load of rubbish!just because a van  is newer and more modern doesnt mean you ll have more problems with it.. ::)roll
Well, I have had no problems with it in the 12 years plus I have owned it. I do seem to hear a lot about problems people have with new vans though.

But based on your experience of having done 5000 miles in a new van I suppose I must be talking a load of rubbish.

what problems are these then mate?(dont include vivaro owners as we all know their crap vans prone to lots of issues) ;D
price higher/work harder!

Slacky

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2018, 11:46:13 pm »
My 5 year custom has nearly 90K on the clock. There’s the start of a slightly strange sound coming from under the bonnet  to the drivers side. It sounds like a loose cover of some sort. Apart from that, nuffink, touch wood....

Slacky

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2018, 11:47:28 pm »
If it’s not a loose or worn cover it might be a dead prostitute.

Pete Thompson

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2018, 12:14:58 am »
Newer vans (euro 6) like my Toyota Proace do have a more complex exhaust system. They have DPF, and SCRT which uses AdBlue.

The more complex something is, the more there is to go wrong, that’s true. But this new van uses about a third less diesel as my old one, (despite having a more powerful engine) so it’s swings and roundabouts.

It also came with a 5-year warranty, so I’m not too worried.

My previous van just had DPF and I never had any issues. In my opinion, the key to trouble-free motoring is just getting it serviced exactly as the manufacturers instructions.

colin bird

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2018, 07:06:35 am »
You should be fine, as long as it completes its cycle you’ll be ok, even if you stop the engine it will continue its dpf cycle when you go on the next journey.

The throttle will be a bit annoying and jumpy when it’s on the cycle, also it will accelerate quicker and feel more powerful as the ecu releases a few more horse power! And yes it gets noisy! The fan will be going full wack!

I tend to give mine some beans when it’s goong through the cycle, never had any problems.
I know exactly what you mean,thanks

colin bird

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2018, 07:08:00 am »
Many thanks for all your replies gents

dazmond

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2018, 07:33:33 am »
My 5 year custom has nearly 90K on the clock. There’s the start of a slightly strange sound coming from under the bonnet  to the drivers side. It sounds like a loose cover of some sort. Apart from that, nuffink, touch wood....

you do a lot of driving dont you matt?my van will have around 20k miles on it after 5 years.probably even less....
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Don Kee

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2018, 08:24:11 am »
I find it quite interesting that you’ve got the custom and not had any problems with it- according to my mechanic , I’m better off with the old shape transit instead of the custom because they have so many problems. He said don’t you wonder why there is so many 5 year old customs for sale for around £5/6 k ? And yet an old transit van get get around £4K .
Now I don’t know whether he’s talking b******s so I keep taking my tranny back to him every now and then with small problems so he can keep money coming in or whether he’s looking out for me and warning me against the custom

Odd your mechanic can be so generalistic when the Custom has had two totally different engines in that time, with 6 different maps (euro 5 & euro 6, each with 3 different maps)
Any idea which actual version of the custom he meant or just ‘all’ of them?


When the van sounds like a tank for 10mins, it’s ‘regenning’. Just try your best to keep revs around 2-2.5k until it stops.
Touch the windscreen as well and you’ll notice it goes warm. Its a good indicator for when your van is going through a regen but also when its finished.

2 years, 20k miles, no problems with DPF...yet!

Shrek

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2018, 08:37:18 am »
I find it quite interesting that you’ve got the custom and not had any problems with it- according to my mechanic , I’m better off with the old shape transit instead of the custom because they have so many problems. He said don’t you wonder why there is so many 5 year old customs for sale for around £5/6 k ? And yet an old transit van get get around £4K .
Now I don’t know whether he’s talking b******s so I keep taking my tranny back to him every now and then with small problems so he can keep money coming in or whether he’s looking out for me and warning me against the custom

Odd your mechanic can be so generalistic when the Custom has had two totally different engines in that time, with 6 different maps (euro 5 & euro 6, each with 3 different maps)
Any idea which actual version of the custom he meant or just ‘all’ of them?


Whe the van sounds like a tank for 10mins it’s ‘regenning’. Just try your best to keep revs around 2-2.5k until it stops.
Touch the windscreen as well and you’ll notice it goes warm. Its a good indicator for when your van is going through a regen but also when its finished.

2 years, 20k miles, no problems with DPF...yet!

He was on about all of them lol , once the 5 year warranty runs out , then the problems start apparently. I do like the look of them though  :)

Lee GLS

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2018, 07:54:09 pm »
I have had a van (Citroen dispatch 2.0 hid) with a DPF for the last year, I was desperate not to have one but had to change my van.

I may sound a bit anal, but For the last year I constantly monitor the DPF with a Bluetooth obd2 reader and a app on my amazon kindle fire.

My van averages a regen every 150 miles. You can’t tell that it is doing it apart from the engine fan running.

From Monitoring the regens I can tell you that tagging the van makes no difference, doesn’t unblock anything doesn’t make the DPF heat up any quicker.

For trying different driving styles when it is carrying out a regen, the optimum revs is 2500k and this allows the DPF to get up to temperate the quickest and maintains the temperature, it has to get up to 530 degrees to regenerate at its quickest.

The regen actually completes quicker stationary holding the revs at 2500k and with get the content down to 0 much quicker that driving.

I may be a bit OTT with this, but I would sooner Complete the regens properly that have to spend a fortune on replacing it.

My van has covered 70k

I hope this is of help  :)

dd

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2018, 08:06:42 pm »
Dazmond. I am not mechanically minded but I hear frequently (often on this site) about problems people have with new vans. The more technology there is the more there is to go wrong. My mechanic basically says the same thing, and that people are often surprised at the high cost of fixing modern diesels when they go wrong.

I would still buy a new van (cannot escape technology forever) but prefer to get a few more years out of my 12 year old dispatch first.

Don Kee

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2018, 08:21:16 pm »
I have had a van (Citroen dispatch 2.0 hid) with a DPF for the last year, I was desperate not to have one but had to change my van.

I may sound a bit anal, but For the last year I constantly monitor the DPF with a Bluetooth obd2 reader and a app on my amazon kindle fire.

My van averages a regen every 150 miles. You can’t tell that it is doing it apart from the engine fan running.

From Monitoring the regens I can tell you that tagging the van makes no difference, doesn’t unblock anything doesn’t make the DPF heat up any quicker.

For trying different driving styles when it is carrying out a regen, the optimum revs is 2500k and this allows the DPF to get up to temperate the quickest and maintains the temperature, it has to get up to 530 degrees to regenerate at its quickest.

The regen actually completes quicker stationary holding the revs at 2500k and with get the content down to 0 much quicker that driving.

I may be a bit OTT with this, but I would sooner Complete the regens properly that have to spend a fortune on replacing it.

My van has covered 70k

I hope this is of help  :)

You reckon thats true of most manufacturers DFP systems?

I was under the impression that the van had to be in gear and moving for a regen not to ‘fail’, if you can let it crack on whilst stationary then it’ll stop me from driving needlessly around like a wally in second gear when I know it’s regening (its very noticeable in the customs with the short exhaust)

Don Kee

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2018, 08:25:27 pm »
Dazmond. I am not mechanically minded but I hear frequently (often on this site) about problems people have with new vans. The more technology there is the more there is to go wrong. My mechanic basically says the same thing, and that people are often surprised at the high cost of fixing modern diesels when they go wrong.

I would still buy a new van (cannot escape technology forever) but prefer to get a few more years out of my 12 year old dispatch first.

Millions of new vans; even if you hear of a thousand problems then the percentages aren’t bad.

I trust my mechanic like I trust my barber, I will only visit them.
But he only ever seems to tell me about the problems with various vehicles...it’s almost like it’s his job to find the faults in all vehicles so he can fix them...

(Out of interest though, how often do you hear of ‘new van problems’ on this site?! I’ve been on here for a reasonable amount of time, I wouldn’t say it was regular...?)

Lee GLS

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2018, 08:47:39 pm »
I have had a van (Citroen dispatch 2.0 hid) with a DPF for the last year, I was desperate not to have one but had to change my van.

I may sound a bit anal, but For the last year I constantly monitor the DPF with a Bluetooth obd2 reader and a app on my amazon kindle fire.

My van averages a regen every 150 miles. You can’t tell that it is doing it apart from the engine fan running.

From Monitoring the regens I can tell you that tagging the van makes no difference, doesn’t unblock anything doesn’t make the DPF heat up any quicker.

For trying different driving styles when it is carrying out a regen, the optimum revs is 2500k and this allows the DPF to get up to temperate the quickest and maintains the temperature, it has to get up to 530 degrees to regenerate at its quickest.

The regen actually completes quicker stationary holding the revs at 2500k and with get the content down to 0 much quicker that driving.

I may be a bit OTT with this, but I would sooner Complete the regens properly that have to spend a fortune on replacing it.

My van has covered 70k

I hope this is of help  :)

You reckon thats true of most manufacturers DFP systems?

I was under the impression that the van had to be in gear and moving for a regen not to ‘fail’, if you can let it crack on whilst stationary then it’ll stop me from driving needlessly around like a wally in second gear when I know it’s regening (its very noticeable in the customs with the short exhaust)

It’s probably no different to doing a forced regen at a garage which is  carried out stationary. Try it on your van. When the engine fan goes off the regen has finnished, as long as the fan is running it will keep on doing it.

There are so many thoughts on when and how a regen starts. A lot of people say to get the engine hot, others say rag it on the motorway and it will start but from monitoring mine it’s all a load of rubbish.

The figure on the app that I use tells you the weight of the spot in the DPF, as soon as it clicks over to 6.000g it with initiate a regen, regardless of the engine temp, outside temp, how fast you are traveling.

p1w1

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2018, 09:29:19 pm »
I have had a van (Citroen dispatch 2.0 hid) with a DPF for the last year, I was desperate not to have one but had to change my van.

I may sound a bit anal, but For the last year I constantly monitor the DPF with a Bluetooth obd2 reader and a app on my amazon kindle fire.

My van averages a regen every 150 miles. You can’t tell that it is doing it apart from the engine fan running.

From Monitoring the regens I can tell you that tagging the van makes no difference, doesn’t unblock anything doesn’t make the DPF heat up any quicker.

For trying different driving styles when it is carrying out a regen, the optimum revs is 2500k and this allows the DPF to get up to temperate the quickest and maintains the temperature, it has to get up to 530 degrees to regenerate at its quickest.

The regen actually completes quicker stationary holding the revs at 2500k and with get the content down to 0 much quicker that driving.

I may be a bit OTT with this, but I would sooner Complete the regens properly that have to spend a fortune on replacing it.

My van has covered 70k

I hope this is of help  :)

You reckon thats true of most manufacturers DFP systems?

I was under the impression that the van had to be in gear and moving for a regen not to ‘fail’, if you can let it crack on whilst stationary then it’ll stop me from driving needlessly around like a wally in second gear when I know it’s regening (its very noticeable in the customs with the short exhaust)

It’s probably no different to doing a forced regen at a garage which is  carried out stationary. Try it on your van. When the engine fan goes off the regen has finnished, as long as the fan is running it will keep on doing it.

There are so many thoughts on when and how a regen starts. A lot of people say to get the engine hot, others say rag it on the motorway and it will start but from monitoring mine it’s all a load of rubbish.

The figure on the app that I use tells you the weight of the spot in the DPF, as soon as it clicks over to 6.000g it with initiate a regen, regardless of the engine temp, outside temp, how fast you are traveling.
do you have a link to bluetooth unit that you use and do you use the torque app

Lee GLS

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #30 on: June 14, 2018, 10:12:01 pm »
I have had a van (Citroen dispatch 2.0 hid) with a DPF for the last year, I was desperate not to have one but had to change my van.

I may sound a bit anal, but For the last year I constantly monitor the DPF with a Bluetooth obd2 reader and a app on my amazon kindle fire.

My van averages a regen every 150 miles. You can’t tell that it is doing it apart from the engine fan running.

From Monitoring the regens I can tell you that tagging the van makes no difference, doesn’t unblock anything doesn’t make the DPF heat up any quicker.

For trying different driving styles when it is carrying out a regen, the optimum revs is 2500k and this allows the DPF to get up to temperate the quickest and maintains the temperature, it has to get up to 530 degrees to regenerate at its quickest.

The regen actually completes quicker stationary holding the revs at 2500k and with get the content down to 0 much quicker that driving.

I may be a bit OTT with this, but I would sooner Complete the regens properly that have to spend a fortune on replacing it.

My van has covered 70k

I hope this is of help  :)

You reckon thats true of most manufacturers DFP systems?

I was under the impression that the van had to be in gear and moving for a regen not to ‘fail’, if you can let it crack on whilst stationary then it’ll stop me from driving needlessly around like a wally in second gear when I know it’s regening (its very noticeable in the customs with the short exhaust)

It’s probably no different to doing a forced regen at a garage which is  carried out stationary. Try it on your van. When the engine fan goes off the regen has finnished, as long as the fan is running it will keep on doing it.

There are so many thoughts on when and how a regen starts. A lot of people say to get the engine hot, others say rag it on the motorway and it will start but from monitoring mine it’s all a load of rubbish.

The figure on the app that I use tells you the weight of the spot in the DPF, as soon as it clicks over to 6.000g it with initiate a regen, regardless of the engine temp, outside temp, how fast you are traveling.
do you have a link to bluetooth unit that you use and do you use the torque app

This
https://tinyurl.com/y8v462q6

And this app but it only works on Citroen peugeos on Android

https://www.amazon.co.uk/FAP-Citroen-Peugeot-ELM327-OBD2/dp/B01LJUI2TA

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XXdRbeA4ENk


p1w1

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Re: transit custom dpf
« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2018, 10:45:31 pm »
Thanks