Rob_Mac

If you were in the position................
« on: July 02, 2012, 07:00:13 pm »
If you were in the position to offer any cleaning related service what would it be?

Why would you choose the service and how would you make it stand out?

Rob ;D

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Re: If you were in the position................
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2012, 07:11:13 pm »
Runway Rubber Removal.

I'll own a truck one day.  ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx333SV47SE

Rob_Mac

Re: If you were in the position................
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2012, 08:31:26 pm »
I have been looking into shot blasting now for quite some time and have been looking at the various methods. I want a drive in preparation area in my unit, for cars & larger items, also a portable unit.

There is a Farrow system on Ebay - it has been there for about 2 months now and he has reduced the price by £1500.00 but is still too much.

Not convinced which is the right method for me.

Rob ;D

mark blundell

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Re: If you were in the position................
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2012, 08:59:50 pm »
Hi rob,
my uncle does shot blasting he's got a blast room on site and does mobile.

them farrow systems are aright but there only 189 cfm my uncle has just upgraded to a 400 cfm from his 250cfm and there is such a power difference.

there allot of money for a basically a 180cfm compressor blast pot and a couple of metal water tanks on a trailer. 

Rob_Mac

Re: If you were in the position................
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2012, 09:11:58 pm »
Mark

Yes I had figured out that it was all on the CFM, there is actually two on Ebay now.

I like the idea of dry ice blasting as well, looks very clean. I know Carl has one but I don't know enough about the sizes of the different set ups.

Dry ice looks like a much cleaner option - I don't know!!!!???

Rob ;D

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Re: If you were in the position................
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2012, 09:16:23 pm »
Company near me, Dudley Cleaning had a purpose equipped container rigged up for blasting.

I pass them some paint removal jobs, I can't be doing with chem stripping no more. Too much hassle.

Look at the price for a basic set up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuqhHxShUyo http://www.centurywise.co.uk

Then just hire a compressor. That £15k one is too much.

Rob_Mac

Re: If you were in the position................
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2012, 09:18:51 pm »
Lee

I know, I agree with you - a large compressor secondhand for about five and then a couple of grand for the rest, eight tops and then stick it all on a flat bed.

Rob ;D

TN Cleaning Services Ltd

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Re: If you were in the position................
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2012, 09:25:33 pm »
Dry ice blasting looks great!
Would make many of my jobs so easy!

Blast Away

Re: If you were in the position................
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2012, 09:26:22 pm »


They gave £5k for that one.

Rob_Mac

Re: If you were in the position................
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2012, 09:27:34 pm »
Whats the CFM Lee?

Rob ;D

Rob_Mac

Re: If you were in the position................
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2012, 09:30:38 pm »
Tim

We need to get Carl on to give us his knowledge!!!

Rob ;D

TN Cleaning Services Ltd

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Re: If you were in the position................
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2012, 09:33:21 pm »
Hi Rob,
Dont know if you remember me, but i came and met you once.
At Bedford Sainsburys when you was working there.

Rob_Mac

Re: If you were in the position................
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2012, 09:35:19 pm »
Course I remember you.

Rob ;D

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Re: If you were in the position................
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2012, 09:41:14 pm »
Whats the CFM Lee?

Rob ;D

Haven't got a clue pal, don't know anything about them.

Rob_Mac

Re: If you were in the position................
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2012, 09:48:48 pm »
Tim

Hows business?

Lee - any idea of the rates on local work, I think I can really use a blasting set up but whether it is dry ice or media I need to get further info on.

Rob ;D

TN Cleaning Services Ltd

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Re: If you were in the position................
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2012, 10:15:43 pm »
Rob,

Business is going well,
Got loads of school kitchens to get through over summer holidays,
quite a bit of pressure washing & builders cleans recently,
Quoting every other day and getting go ahead for 95% of work.
Waiting to hear on a few decent sized contracts,
All's good!
Tim.

mark blundell

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Re: If you were in the position................
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2012, 10:35:01 pm »
Hi rob
as for the dry ice blasting I have no experience just Googled it and it sounds just as messy

from Wikipedia

Dry ice-blasting is a form of abrasive blasting, where dry ice, the solid form of carbon dioxide, is accelerated in a pressurized air stream and directed at a surface in order to clean it.
The method is similar to other forms of abrasive blasting such as sand blasting, plastic bead blasting, or sodablasting but substitutes dry ice as the blasting medium.[1] Dry-ice blasting leaves no chemical residue as dry ice sublimates at room temperature.

that blasting really is a messy business. but it does pay well. as for the cfm my uncle has a 180 cfm that is used for lighter mobile stuff like oak beams barns ect he had it all mounted on a trailer like the farrow system but de-mounted it all as he finds it easier to have the pot hose media ect in the van and just tow the compressor.

have a look at the quill falcon system thats a wet and dry unit.

Rob_Mac

Re: If you were in the position................
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2012, 10:46:27 pm »
Mark

I have come across the Quill Falcon system but you have reminded me of it again.

I will have a look tomorrow.

Dry ice might be as messy but you don't have the media to clean up, only what is blown off the surface. I want to know whether there is the same upgrades of machinery offering higher CFM (or whatever it is in dry ice blasting).

The principle of dry ice looks quite phenomenal but why is it not as widely used??

Rob ;D

TN Cleaning Services Ltd

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Re: If you were in the position................
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2012, 10:57:49 pm »
Rob,
It could be because its mega expensive to get the dry ice? i dont know,
All you have to pick up is the dirt that drops off underneath.
It looks really easy.
It didnt look really abrasive, was looking on you tube the other day,
they used it on different types of things and it didnt mark them or anything.
Tim.

mark blundell

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Re: If you were in the position................
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2012, 10:58:49 pm »
I will ask my uncle about the dry ice blasting for you tomorrow and let you know

TN Cleaning Services Ltd

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Re: If you were in the position................
« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2012, 11:02:08 pm »
Ok, Cheers!

mark blundell

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Re: If you were in the position................
« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2012, 11:04:50 pm »
i Know my uncle uses a variety of media's depending on the application he finds it really annoying when you are buying garnet olivine aluminium oxide or even crushed glass and there are local companies using kiln dried sand @ £40 a ton which is illegal.

Matt Gibson

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Re: If you were in the position................
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2012, 08:46:20 am »
A guy i know up here who has a dry ice set up. it never gets used. he needs to price high because of the cost of the media and when you can get the same job done cheaper with a wet blaster or a normal grit blaster he rarely gets the job. i guess if you pushed it and were able to absorb some of the cost to bring the price down it might be feasable.

Rob_Mac

Re: If you were in the position................
« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2012, 10:18:53 am »
Mark

Why is it illegal - I saw this on site as late as March!!??

Rob ;D

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Re: If you were in the position................
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2012, 01:26:36 pm »
You would be better to hire a compressor, because of the high work rate they need constant maintaining, and break down quite often !

mark blundell

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Re: If you were in the position................
« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2012, 06:20:19 pm »
Hi rob,

Its because of the silica in the sand causes Silicosis a lung disease caused by breathing in silica dust. there are some applications where it is aloud I think on fixed structures ie bridges buildings.
But it has to be used wet to suppress the dust .

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Re: If you were in the position................
« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2012, 07:16:01 pm »
Here you go Rob http://www.hse.gov.uk/press/2008/coinw01708.htm

A lot use crushed glass.