[Stuart Webster]

According to Phillip Hanson

AND another important point.  If you install any water treatment system which incorporates REVERSE OSMOSIS in a residential building, (including a garage) you must get a permit from your local water authority, otherwise you are breaking the law.

So do you RO men/women have the required permits???

[Jon T.C.]

 

[Philip Hanson]

Not all WFP system users need permits.  In fact the vast majority of WFP systems that use RO do not need permits.

We need that option in your question.

"Well how do we know who does and who doesn't?"

We need to look at the regulations

-Philip

[Stuart Webster]

Now i'm really confused!

According to Phillip Hanson

AND another important point. If you install any water treatment system which incorporates REVERSE OSMOSIS in a residential building, (including a garage) you must get a permit from your local water authority, otherwise you are breaking the law.

So do you RO men/women have the required permits???

Not all WFP system users need permits. In fact the vast majority of WFP systems that use RO do not need permits.

We need that option in your question.

"Well how do we know who does and who doesn't?"

We need to look at the regualtions

-Philip

Which is it?

The reason i asked the question was in direct responce to your comment.

How can they need a permit, and the vast majority not need it?

[Philip Hanson]

I have not contradicted myself, all of what you've quoted above is exactly correct.  This point illustrates the need for us to do our own research before we come to conclusions, or indeed before we raise questions in polls.

Without being unkind Stuart, simply saying "according to Philip Hanson" is not a sound basis for this poll.  How do you know that I was not speaking rubbish about this permit business before you raised this poll?  What did you manage to find out for yourself?

We should really have had a link to the regulations so that people would have been able to see just what they say.

It is both true that you must get permission from your local water authority before installing a system which incorporates Reverse Osmosis, AND that the vast majority of WFP users do not need to seek permission.

-Philip

PS: Getting a permit from the water authority is a simple and straighforward process.

[Philip Hanson]

Oh dear it seems that Stuart has deleted himself from the forum.  That's a real shame, I had not meant any offense whatsoever.

For anyone who is interested, the regulations regarding water installations are HERE
Notice the table in section 5, part 4(e) "a unit which incorporates reverse osmosis"

The reason they don't apply to the vast majority of pole users is simple.

Most pole users use a van-mounted system where the RO units are in the van.  These are not an installation in a dwelling, therefore are not under the regs.

Although the regs do apply to static systems, most window cleaners do not "install" the system, they simply attach it to the water supply when needed.  This way, the RO unit is an appliance, not an "installation"

However, if you do have your system plumbed in, and it is genuinely an installation, you should get a permit.

-Philip

[Roy Harding]

Thats why I did not complete the poll, as I have a van mounted system.

Thanks for that phillip.

Roy

[Jon T.C.]

Thank God we got that one cleared up

Shame on you Phillip for being too aggressive to new posters

[Philip Hanson]

I know, I feel quite bad about it.  I had not meant to be aggressive, but its obviously come across like that.

I think Stuart was so anti-wfp he just jumped on this issue without really knowing anything about it, and I don't think that's right.

But still, he might come back, I hope so.

-Philip

[Roy Harding]

According to Phillip Hanson

AND another important point.  If you install any water treatment system which incorporates REVERSE OSMOSIS in a residential building, (including a garage) you must get a permit from your local water authority, otherwise you are breaking the law.

So do you RO men/women have the required permits???

No one got one then??
Roy

[Morph]

Mine is an appliance so - non compliance!

[Jeff Brimble]

I would interpret an RO connected to a standard tap by a temporary hose connector or screw tthread device, an appliance, which would then not need any permission  or need to be rated ?

[chris@c.m.s]

Hope you all have permission for outside taps which the water authority also needs notification for 

[Jeff Brimble]

Is that new outside taps or the one thats been in my garage for 50 years ?

[chris@c.m.s]

I'm sure you could get retrospective  also I didnt fit any 50 years ago so i dont know

[macc]

im ok, next dood told me my tap was fitted 40 years ago then the house 10 years later so im exempt anyway.

[master cleaner]

im ok, next dood told me my tap was fitted 40 years ago then the house 10 years later so im exempt anyway.

how can your house be built 30 years after the tap is fitted

only joking

gary

[stephen d]

1.what does a permit cost 2. is the water then charged at commercial rates3.  is this any dearer.

[macc]

gary, did you do maths at school, i thought i was bad at maths, 

[master cleaner]

gary, did you do maths at school, i thought i was bad at maths, 

if the tap was fitted 40 years ago and then ten years later they built the house
 : : :

still only joking

gary

[rosskesava]

Our ro unit is disguised in my garden.

I begrudge paying the fat cat bosses at Southern Water any more than I can get away with.

If they could get away with increasing their hugely over inflated wages and passing on the cost to the customer - they would. If they could get away with polluted tap water and save money, they would.

The system as set up is based on the water companies making huge profit and being private companies, they will do the minimum to earn it.

I'm a private company also. That's business for you.

[macc]

im thinking . i hated maths ???still do