[james peters]

    so shortly im off to my local garage for some craft cider and popcorn ...
but before I go , I would like some input off all cold water users .

1.....how many days are lost each year to frosty cold weather?
2......was the amount of money lost, (if any ) prompting you to justify  spending 5 k on a hot water system?
3...... how many of you enjoy the benefits of warm water via  an emersion or hot water through a DI?

NB IF YOU HAVE A HOT WATER SYSTEM , PLEASE REFRAIN FROM POSTING !
I want to hear the stastistics from cold or warm water users

 

[deeege]

Since the cold winter of 2010, when I took 2 weeks off in January due to the extreme cold weather, I’ve lost less than 10 days work due to freezing conditions.

(Temps in 2010 were -12° and lower so nobody was working, hot or cold)

North West based so it’ll be even less for you southern lot.

[AuRavelling79]

   so shortly im off to my local garage for some craft cider and popcorn ...
but before I go , I would like some input off all cold water users .

1.....how many days are lost each year to frosty cold weather?
2......was the amount of money lost, (if any ) prompting you to justify  spending 5 k on a hot water system?
3...... how many of you enjoy the benefits of warm water via  an emersion or hot water through a DI?

NB IF YOU HAVE A HOT WATER SYSTEM , PLEASE REFRAIN FROM POSTING !
I want to hear the stastistics from cold or warm water users

 

1. Not many. But I work in and near Bristol in the south-west.
2. No. The only thing that would prompt me for an on demand heat system would be if I did a lot of first cleans or say dirty annual or six monthly stuff like schools.
3. I have an immersion on board (since the very cold 2010 winter) and I use this in the colder days of winter  -  for supple easier to manage hoses and when the temperature is hovering around freezing. I reckon I go out earlier in the day on some frosty days.

[NWH]

You should have a lot of replies then,trust me just buy one and don’t take any advice from anyone who’s not used hot water for any length of time it’s an asset to you and you’re business it makes working easier all year round.
Forget the first clean rubbish that’s not only what it’s good for its better faster and easier on regular cleans too,when you come back and thank me they’ll be no hard feelings ok 👌.

[james peters]

You should have a lot of replies then,trust me just buy one and don’t take any advice from anyone who’s not used hot water for any length of time it’s an asset to you and you’re business it makes working easier all year round.
Forget the first clean rubbish that’s not only what it’s good for its better faster and easier on regular cleans too,when you come back and thank me they’ll be no hard feelings ok 👌.

I'm not after advice.  I am just looking at statistics .
I use hot on cold days anyway, but mainly for nice warm hoses .

[DJW]

I’ve worked with a gas heater and these days an immersion tank.
To be honest the window of freezing temperatures a hot system will allow you to work is probably pretty narrow possibly from minus four to minus five. Once it gets colder than that brushes freeze, jets freeze, windowsills freeze solid and any spilled water will instantly turn solid on pathways.
On top of all that my b******s freeze anyway.

[colin bird]

I'm in the south east,been using cold water for thirteen years,I've only lost one day in that time,that was doe to tempature stayed at minus three all day which caused water to freeze in the pole hose and brush jets.
I've always been able to work in minus two without problems

[Stoots]

Hard to remember. the only time i can recall having more than the odd day off is when we had the beast from the east a few years back.

But the days i have had off wouldnt have been helped with hot water as when its cold enough for cold water to freeze on the glass its  also cold enough to freeze hot water.

[Splash & dash]

I think you are missing the whole point of using hot water it’s not to be able to work in minus whatever the reason to use it is to speed up the job , remove stubborn dirt etc especially on less frequent jobs and remove salt if costal , and less or no need for chemicals on building cleans and UPVC .

[NWH]

If you keep everything wrapped up you will get away with it yes once the water starts to flow through the pump it’ll defrost and you’ll have flow that’s fine,the thing is who needs all that hassle first thing in the morning.
You can have days that are beautiful to work in but it’s been so cold overnight or is cold during the day you’re either frozen up in the van or the jets freeze in the brush,it’s not about how many days you’ve had off it’s about how easier it makes the working day the same goes for electric reels and poles that are as light as possible,if it makes my day easier I’m first in the queue.

[NWH]

I think you are missing the whole point of using hot water it’s not to be able to work in minus whatever the reason to use it is to speed up the job , remove stubborn dirt etc especially on less frequent jobs and remove salt if costal , and less or no need for chemicals on building cleans and UPVC .

🪖 🧱

[Splash & dash]

I think you are missing the whole point of using hot water it’s not to be able to work in minus whatever the reason to use it is to speed up the job , remove stubborn dirt etc especially on less frequent jobs and remove salt if costal , and less or no need for chemicals on building cleans and UPVC .

🪖 🧱

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[james peters]

I think you are missing the whole point of using hot water it’s not to be able to work in minus whatever the reason to use it is to speed up the job , remove stubborn dirt etc especially on less frequent jobs and remove salt if costal , and less or no need for chemicals on building cleans and UPVC .

i can see your point on this . especially as you live near the coastline .
I use hot , but I am very lucky to live in a soft water area so I fill up with hot in the morning whilst im having a coffee .
it stays very warm well into the day .

I live where that storm arwen hit over the weekend, and the windows have been caked with filth this week .

[james peters]

If you keep everything wrapped up you will get away with it yes once the water starts to flow through the pump it’ll defrost and you’ll have flow that’s fine,the thing is who needs all that hassle first thing in the morning.
You can have days that are beautiful to work in but it’s been so cold overnight or is cold during the day you’re either frozen up in the van or the jets freeze in the brush,it’s not about how many days you’ve had off it’s about how easier it makes the working day the same goes for electric reels and poles that are as light as possible,if it makes my day easier I’m first in the queue.

fisherman ....
cast
bait
reel in
so predictable
nom nom lovely popcorn

[NWH]

It’s been lovely this week using cold water  🥶 what I like about it is  when you reel in that wire oh I mean hose and it whips against you’re leg like a bull whip 🤣

[james peters]

It’s been lovely this week using cold water  🥶 what I like about it is  when you reel in that wire oh I mean hose and it whips against you’re leg like a bull whip 🤣

you should use hot then . I find it helps . 

[dazmond]

I just prefer working with hot water all year round....

As for working on freezing cold days with ice,snow on the ground I usually have the day off...

[james peters]

I just prefer working with hot water all year round....

As for working on freezing cold days with ice,snow on the ground I usually have the day off...

voice of reason

[G Griffin]

If you keep everything wrapped up you will get away with it yes once the water starts to flow through the pump it’ll defrost and you’ll have flow that’s fine,the thing is who needs all that hassle first thing in the morning.
You can have days that are beautiful to work in but it’s been so cold overnight or is cold during the day you’re either frozen up in the van or the jets freeze in the brush,it’s not about how many days you’ve had off it’s about how easier it makes the working day the same goes for electric reels and poles that are as light as possible,if it makes my day easier I’m first in the queue.

fisherman ....
cast
bait
reel in
so predictable
nom nom lovely popcorn

Can you get craft cider from your local garage?

[james peters]

If you keep everything wrapped up you will get away with it yes once the water starts to flow through the pump it’ll defrost and you’ll have flow that’s fine,the thing is who needs all that hassle first thing in the morning.
You can have days that are beautiful to work in but it’s been so cold overnight or is cold during the day you’re either frozen up in the van or the jets freeze in the brush,it’s not about how many days you’ve had off it’s about how easier it makes the working day the same goes for electric reels and poles that are as light as possible,if it makes my day easier I’m first in the queue.

fisherman ....
cast
bait
reel in
so predictable
nom nom lovely popcorn

Can you get craft cider from your local garage?

yes . lovely

[Spruce]

I just prefer working with hot water all year round....

As for working on freezing cold days with ice,snow on the ground I usually have the day off...

At one time, I would work through snow on the ground with cold water without a second thought. Just sprinkle a little salt down over wet pathways to prevent a slip hazard was the way to go.

These days, cold and old age aren't good buddies. I know if I slip and fall and break a bone, that will be a long recovery time.  That's not worth a day or two's lost earnings.

It's the same entering an estate that has untreated roads. Our area is rather hilly, so an accident will cost far more in future lost earnings, insurance excess, etc. than a day's lost earnings.

[richard connett]

Days lost since I started 9 years ago. 3 days for beast of the east, around 3 mornings a year otherwise . If it’s minus 2 or below just wait till 10 to start work

[robbo333]

I work in Bournemouth with cold water. I've lost very little time due to freezing; maybe (1 hour a day) on a really cold day.  Over the winter probably 7 cold days...so 7 hours.

[NWH]

Cold again tomorrow morning.

[Dazzler3370]

I fitted an immersion element as I didn't want the up keep of a diesel heater and of course the cost implications.

I have found using warmer water has quite a few benefits apart from using it in colder weather.
 I find it shifts stains off the glass quicker, its nice to have a supple hose to throw around and I use it as a selling point to my customers so I charge a bit more.
So for the sake of £200 for all the kit including upgraded electrics.
I claim back on my tax for the electric I use.
Its the one of the best investments ive made, besides my Pure Freedom Electric Reel and Extreme Pole.

[NWH]

Customers can’t believe it when they see you are using hot water last 3-4 months I’ve had builders and electricians amazed when they see the steam coming off the glass,what you get water that hot from 2 12V leisure batteries 1 electrician said to me lol.

[NWH]

If you’ve only used cold water you can’t begin to fathom why you would only want to use hot water this is why I ignore cold water over hot comments,anyone in their right mind wouldn’t want to go back to cold but you should want to try hot over cold the benefits are huge in results and the fact it makes cold easy.

[KS Cleaning]

If you’ve only used cold water you can’t begin to fathom why you would only want to use hot water this is why I ignore cold water over hot comments,anyone in their right mind wouldn’t want to go back to cold but you should want to try hot over cold the benefits are huge in results and the fact it makes cold easy.

Have you been drinking Special Brew again?

[Smudger]

If you’ve only used cold water you can’t begin to fathom why you would only want to use hot water this is why I ignore cold water over hot comments,anyone in their right mind wouldn’t want to go back to cold but you should want to try hot over cold the benefits are huge in results and the fact it makes cold easy.

Have you been drinking Special Brew again?

no thats him sober - he's much more entertaining when drunk

[Slacky]

If you’ve only used cold water you can’t begin to fathom why you would only want to use hot water this is why I ignore cold water over hot comments,anyone in their right mind wouldn’t want to go back to cold but you should want to try hot over cold the benefits are huge in results and the fact it makes cold easy.

That’s not true and there’s no on here who believes that for a second, apart from you.

[AuRavelling79]

If you’ve only used cold water you can’t begin to fathom why you would only want to use hot water this is why I ignore cold water over hot comments,anyone in their right mind wouldn’t want to go back to cold but you should want to try hot over cold the benefits are huge in results and the fact it makes cold easy.

You ignore comments about water temperature like a junkie ignores an overdue fix.

[NWH]

Ok I’ll take a reading today