Bertie Boo

Re: Cleaning Toilets
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2007, 07:47:57 pm »
Gleam

No, thats not what i think, i know that there are more germs around the place than on the loo, its the type of germs on the loo and the fact that that its not just 'germs' that you come into contact with (its other physical matter too) that i dont like the sound of..

Stephen

Robert Parry

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Re: Cleaning Toilets
« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2007, 08:32:11 pm »
Cant quite believe this thread is still running!

If you employ staff you have a legal duty to protect your employee's health, in the case of the toilets this means issuing gloves of some sort, as part of their PPE.

Its not only the fact that bacteria and other nasties lurk within the washroom areas, but next time you spend a little time with a memeber of your staff, just take a look at weather they bite their nails at all!

We all slate the NHS for hygiene lapses, that sometimes lead to patients deaths, does anyone really think that the commercial/office sector should be any different?

Regards,

Rob
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Mike jones

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Re: Cleaning Toilets
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2007, 08:40:30 pm »
Always gloves, not just germs but protection from chemicals. After many years of using  detergents i now get a severe dermatites reaction from even washing up liquid.

I hate to think of the food poisoning etc that could be picked up from a toilet especially one used by young children with bad aim etc.

I provide gloves for my staff and expect them to be used.

Cleaning Resource

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Re: Cleaning Toilets
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2007, 11:11:41 pm »
I use barrier cream to protect my hands from the chemicals, have been for 14yrs and my hands are as soft as a babys behind.

dhnjj

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Re: Cleaning Toilets
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2007, 04:23:44 pm »
Hi dg

Well we are cleaners afterall and thats part and parcel of the job. I do think you should have scrubbed it off whether that be with a toilet brush, a scourer or your tongue like martin_606  :)

Would you feel the same if your client was disabled and couldnt clean the bowl or if a client had kids? I know my two always forget to flush!
I dont think you should approach the subject with a client as it is embarrassing and could potentially make them want to discontinue the service. however as for asking for a toilet brush why not?, how can you do a job if you dont have the right tools. Even suggest picking one up for your client and you will add it to the bill. (remember to add profit!)

Regards

Dave
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Failure lies with not getting back up!

dhnjj

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Re: Cleaning Toilets
« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2007, 05:27:55 pm »
have u not just read my post?
Not sure what you mean, but yes I read it and replied
I asked for them to supply a toilet brush via their comments sheet which I leave with them.
Yes I read that bit also, my reply was why not ask? as in "yeah, I agree"
i have no problem cleaning poo from toilets ofcourse its part and parcel of job
Then why leave it there?
but im not really prepared to remove it without a brush.
I think we covered this one
I think it's common courtesy for the client to clean things like this themselves
Then why employ a cleaner?
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Failure lies with not getting back up!

Bertie Boo

Re: Cleaning Toilets
« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2007, 07:40:09 pm »
Now now, ladies and gents (i think dhnjj is a gent? at biologically anyway.......gotta notion he's as all-man as me  :D), corners please....

DG, much as i love ya' i have to say we are scrubber and skiddy toilets we will scrub. I rarely use a loo brush (and ye, if i DO its one of the clients brushes), i use rubber gloves and a cloth. I have a loo brush at home which i use to give my lavvie a twice-daily swish, but in a clients home we are sometimes talking 2 or more weeks of use on that poor old crapper. So, a cloth and disinfectant it is.

I dont think you should mention it to the customer, i DO think you should have cleaned the loo. In my time i have removed used sanitary towels from under sofas, emptied bins that contained tissues that had been used by someone to clean themseleves after a moment of self pleasure (and before i get some smart-arsed "how do you know it was that" let me tell you could detect the odour a mile away), i've found used condoms, pooty towels, dirty underwear, the list goes on.......i just remind myself i didnt go into this job for the glamour.

It breaks my heart to disagree with you ( :'( ) but, as dhnjj says, people have a cleaner to do the cleaning for them.

Stephen


Bertie Boo

Re: Cleaning Toilets
« Reply #27 on: September 26, 2007, 07:59:27 pm »
oh dear oh dear oh dear........... ::) :'( ::)

Good luck DG

Stephen

dhnjj

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Re: Cleaning Toilets
« Reply #28 on: September 26, 2007, 08:10:38 pm »
 dg, I am not here to play semantics with you but your question was -
do u think I did the right thing or should I just have got in there and scrubbed it off with a cloth?!
and I gave you my answer. Your question was not " what is everyone elses policy on this?"
Then to find your reply was "have u not just read my post?" was certainly uncalled for. And where did "why don't you just do it then" come from?? I never wrote that.
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dg-cleaning

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Re: Cleaning Toilets
« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2007, 08:33:24 pm »
Then why leave it there?.... was your comment, same difference

Bertie Boo

Re: Cleaning Toilets
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2007, 08:37:36 pm »
Dg

yes, true same difference, but you quoted him as having said it......to some it gives the impression that their reply has not been read correctly.

Anyway, why must you two fall out like this?

Stephen

dhnjj

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Re: Cleaning Toilets
« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2007, 09:13:05 pm »
No problem

there was obviously a misunderstanding with us both reading in different directions, i though for a minute there that me and the dyslex... i mean domestic goddess spoke a different language  :)

Im not here to fall out with anyone

Regards

Dave
Failure lies not with falling down.
Failure lies with not getting back up!

Bertie Boo

Re: Cleaning Toilets
« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2007, 09:16:08 pm »
DG

No need to apologise, really.

Point is, it is oh so easy to think that people have left a mess because they have a cleaner. But thats not true.

They have left a mess because they are mucky bug*ers. It's nothing to do with having a cleaner, it's how they would leave things even if they did their own housework. A lot of people dont even realise or can't see the mess they make. They can only see when something has been cleaned, but when dirty it just looks 'normal' to them.

It is also a sad fact that for many people who dont do housework that they simple choose not to look. By not seeing it, it's not there (whatever 'it' is). I have just started working in a house that is so dirty i almost turned the job down. No one in that house does a thing and the mother has just switched off to it all. I feel really sorry for her.

Either i have a thicker skin than i thought, or my clients dont take the p1ss, i just dont know. All i think when i see a grubby toilet and bathroom is that they obviously need me. When i go in and its clean THEN i worry.

Chin up girl and dont take it personally. You would be astounded if you knew just how much respect people have for their cleaner. I bet your clients love you to bits.

Stephen

Prestige1

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Re: Cleaning Toilets
« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2007, 09:17:09 pm »
Still surprised this is still running, can't believe how many use a cloth for toilets! What do you do with the dirty cloth? Dispose I hope? All my girls are instructed to clean toilets with spray disinfectant and kitchen roll, which is then flushed down the loo. When carrying out estimates I point this out which pleases the client, the thought of a cloth going from loo to loo god knows what you might create!
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Bertie Boo

Re: Cleaning Toilets
« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2007, 09:17:27 pm »
No problem

 i though for a minute there that me and the dyslex... i mean domestic goddess spoke a different language  :)


eh?

stephen

Bertie Boo

Re: Cleaning Toilets
« Reply #35 on: September 26, 2007, 09:21:35 pm »
Still surprised this is still running, can't believe how many use a cloth for toilets! What do you do with the dirty cloth? Dispose I hope? All my girls are instructed to clean toilets with spray disinfectant and kitchen roll, which is then flushed down the loo. When carrying out estimates I point this out which pleases the client, the thought of a cloth going from loo to loo god knows what you might create!

Prestige

The dirty cloth (along with all other cloths and mops) is placed immediatly in a plastic bag which is then tied up at the end of the job. i take these home where in my garage i have a washing machine that is used exclusivly for washing my cloths and mop-heads. These cloths and mops are boil washed then tumble-dried. This was what i was instructed to do by my friend who is an NVQ cleaning assesor. When i did my BICS and my NVQ training the tutors said that i was doing the right thing.

I accept that other people may not go to all that bother, but its what i do.

Stephen


Bertie Boo

Re: Cleaning Toilets
« Reply #36 on: September 26, 2007, 09:25:12 pm »
dg is short for domestic goddess bertie....and I think he was making a bad joke that I may be dyslexic with reference to my grammar.
.

DG

Thats how i read it too.......i was hoping i was wrong  >:(

Bit below the belt if you ask me....

Stephen

Bertie Boo

Re: Cleaning Toilets
« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2007, 09:32:09 pm »
OMG  :o :o :o :o :o :obertie!
I may be in the wrong job but I would never wash pooey cloths and reuse!!!

why don't u get some cheapo cloths like the j cloths I get sure u will be able to get them in most £1 shops,that way you can just dispose of them for good once used.

DG

when you've used disinfectant on the cloth anyway that goes someway to killing the germs whilst a boil-wash will kill everything for sure.

That said, i didnt know you could get as many cloths as 50 for £1. What pound shop is that?

Stephen

dhnjj

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Re: Cleaning Toilets
« Reply #38 on: September 26, 2007, 09:42:09 pm »
agreed a bad joke, my apologies but didnt see the harm at the time, not like me at all
btw- dg it wasnt towards your grammar, it was that we had misread each others posts.

Regards

Dave
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Failure lies with not getting back up!

Prestige1

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Re: Cleaning Toilets
« Reply #39 on: September 26, 2007, 10:28:10 pm »
Berti
Your NVQ friend is correct for general bathroom cleaning, but you would never wash and re-use poey cloths, ask him and see what his reply is, and if you’re so confident would you tell your customers that you use poey cloths and wash them with kitchen cloths and mops to use again and again, dear me? You need to wear gloves all the day with your cloths.
Dusters should be wash separate
Mops, Toilet, and bathroom washed separate
And Kitchen cloths washed separate
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