[Kenny83]

Hi, just wondering what pump is on a doff system or thermatech as I am thinking about building one, I can see that they use and interpump on the doff but which model? can anyone send / text me a photo of one please? also on the thermatech the pump just looks like a small kranzle k7/120. I reckon I could make a brand new one for less than 1500, I just need to know the pressure and flow of the pump to get it right or the model number of the pump or maybe just send me a picture of the pump unit....
Thanks in advance
 

[Darranvps]

Hi Kenny

We own a DOFF - but it is out with the lads at the moment in Berkshire - so I can't help you just yet.

Thermatech and DOFF may be able to be copied - but they have over twenty years experience and both companies do seem to have it right and I am sure they had many problems to overcome along the way and had great expense in "understanding" what does and can go wrong.

We "think" we could build one too - but to be honest rather than sat tinkering around I prefer to use most of my time expanding the business that I am good at.

One thing to consider - why not Hire the Thermatech - Jamie Fairchild will hire you one for around £250 per week and you will get the chance to see it for yourself first hand - just a thought - Good Luck!

[Aqua Power Solutions]

Darren, How do you rate the Doff . Between the Doff & Therma Tech System what was the advantages over the other . Appreciate your opinion . Thanks Ed

[Darranvps]

Hi
We own the Doff - and basically it is the design of the guy who now makes the much improved Thermatech

I have seen the Thermatech in action and without any doubt we will buy one of these at some point - it is better than the Doff in a few ways.
1. More Compact
2. Has 4 proper wheels
3. Some parts seem more robust

Doff charge a fortune for any parts - they even file off the serial numbers on the nozzles in the hope you wont buy from elsewhere - they are only about £3 from other suppliers but they charge from memory about £11 (not 100% sure but totally rip off) Plus point is - phone an order through you normally receive next day and invoice comes later on in life.........

The machine often needs bits screwing back together here and there
The plus side to Doff - if you buy their machines they will then hire you more if you need any - they also pass on customers who enquire through their website - we've had 4 or 5 this past 12 months

The gentleman who makes the Thermatech - is very knowledgeable and will give you answers how to remove almost any type of stain from lots of types of surfaces - he really is a great guy.

[Rob_Mac]

Just to clarify.

Bits fall off
There are engineering issues
They rip people off
They will advise you once they have your money.

Mmmmmmmmmm............. let me think about this!!!!

Rob

[chris scott]

Just to clarify.

Bits fall off
There are engineering issues
They rip people off
They will advise you once they have your money.

Mmmmmmmmmm............. let me think about this!!!!

Rob

It's not about the machine..it's about whats specified.
Now that has changed ...The young mister Crow is a tosser.
Stonhealth (in my opinion) is on it's way out. I was trained by stonehealth in the use of both their systems and I can't hire one as I never bought one from them.

[Rob_Mac]

Expand a bit more. Not sure the point there Chris.

Rob

[chris scott]

Expand a bit more. Not sure the point there Chris.

Rob

The only machine that was specified for cleaning historic stonework was the doff or TORC system by Stonehealth. It was a glorified steam cleaner...low flow,low pressure,high temperature. Kills organic growth,reduces freeze thaw damage,excellent for stripping paint.
Why you need it for cleaning cladding ...I don't know. I suppose its Because Reece specifies it
If you cleaned stonework the architect specified DOFF ..end of. They had the Market shown up.
Now the spec is rapidly becoming Thermatech. Jamie fairchild produces the Thermatech he  is "the Man" that knows more than anybody I know about cleaning stonework. Jamie was "the man" at Stonehealth for years.
Brian crow's (stonehealth owner) son has now become heavily involved in the running of Stoneheath...he is an absolute tosser (for legal reasons this is mine and only my opinion).

[Aqua Power Solutions]

Darren, really appreciate your input. I have spoke to both companies before and Doff confirmed it was a family member who set up the therma tech system. Interesting to know that the Doff has some negatives even though it is more expensive than the Therma. I have an external supermarket clean coming up and will give the therma a try on a hire (Doff wasn't interested in a hire ) as you have mentioned unless you buy one first.
Darren, do you rate this method of cleaning on cladding rather than your PW & hotbox setup ? Ed

[Rob_Mac]

How much are they?

Ed what do you want one for?

Rob

[Aqua Power Solutions]

Rob , the Therma £5395 + vat , Doff 110v £6993 inc vat , the 240v was slightly cheaper. Gone round in circles with regard to hotboxes. This system  ticks all the boxes for a more variety of external cleans without a high water feed . Ed   

[chris scott]

Rob , the Therma £5395 + vat , Doff 110v £6993 inc vat , the 240v was slightly cheaper. Gone round in circles with regard to hotboxes. This system  ticks all the boxes for a more variety of external cleans without a high water feed . Ed   

What are you cleaning that you require 150c ?

[Rob_Mac]

Can you give us an idea what external cleaning you would need one of those for?

Rob

[Rob_Mac]

One mind - ChrisBob

Rob

[Blast Away]

I paid £5k and £4k for each of our Falch T3's. They can do 150c when reducing the pressure down.

Why anyone would pay out that much for a glorified burner You must be mad.

[Aqua Power Solutions]

Rob, Chris, Lee , got one of the big chains store to clean. Cladding, Brickwork, Graffiti removal. They specify no chems on any surface , their concerned about pressure on brick walls , this seems the obvious solution ! I agree Lee not cheap but if this method suits them , its that old chestnut " speculate to accumulate " i guess . Ed

[Rob_Mac]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aquila-Hot-Box-/201060123435?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item2ed01e032b

Rob

[Matt Gibson]

Thats the 3rd time that hot box has been on eBay. Something doesnt add up. If someone could go and test it for me id probably buy it.

[Rob_Mac]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WHALE-FALCH-COMPACT-T3H-4350-PSI-GUM-GRAFFITI-REMOVER-HOT-PRESSURE-WASHER-DEUTZ-/321350701503?pt=UK_Commercial_Trucks&hash=item4ad1fe91bf

Rob

[Rob_Mac]

Ed

I have all of that with the H & M but that is a twin operator unit. I can reduce the pressure, I can reduce the flow rate. Lee has the same with his two Falch's. Both his set up and my set up cost £9000.00 but for potentially two operators.

As Chris says it is a very good bit of marketing from the Stonehealth guys to sow the market up but I am sure that it isn't completely closed down.

If I didn't have other things on I would set myself the challenge of getting some heritage work. With the kit I have it will be something going on the back burner but I will pick it up later in the year.

Rob