Craig

  • Posts: 12
Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« on: July 23, 2013, 08:50:04 pm »
Looking for a bit of advice. Got a job to price and not sure what the best route to go down is.

Have been asked to clean Galvanised Steel roller shutters. Can't pressure wash them as its on a row of shops and will just cause a mess... So looking for advice on what chemicals to use etc.

It's just bare steel, not been painted, and is badly oxidised as well... Have advised it would be a lot easier to paint it, but they want it cleaned for some reason  ???

John Kelly

  • Posts: 4461
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2013, 03:01:09 pm »
If you can't wash down then you would need to spray and wipe. Best bet is to use a foamer then the product stays on the surface longer to do its job. Leave it to dwell them just wipe off.
This is what you would need:

http://www.restormate.co.uk/epages/15094.sf/en_GB/?ObjectID=19929224

http://www.restormate.co.uk/epages/15094.sf/en_GB/?ObjectID=19210584

http://www.restormate.co.uk/epages/15094.sf/en_GB/?ObjectID=820657

Kenny83

  • Posts: 1131
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2013, 05:27:58 pm »
Hydroflouric acid brings them up mint.... however they made need treating with some kind of protective spray after, ie silicone or other do stop oxidisation
Pressure Washing -
www.powerwashcleaning.co.uk

Kev Martin

  • Posts: 6954
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2013, 06:47:55 am »
You don't need anything so strong.  Aqua mix Phosphoric Acid Substitute cleans them and they don't need recoating.  We sell loads of this stuff to Bikers for their treasured Harleys :D :D

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics Ltd
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

BDCS

  • Posts: 4777
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2013, 01:36:58 pm »
Do people really waste money cleaning cement mixers ?  ;D

Kenny83

  • Posts: 1131
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2013, 06:00:57 pm »
You don't need anything so strong.  Aqua mix Phosphoric Acid Substitute cleans them and they don't need recoating.  We sell loads of this stuff to Bikers for their treasured Harleys :D :D

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics Ltd
Hi kev, how much is it for that stuff mate?
Pressure Washing -
www.powerwashcleaning.co.uk

chris scott

  • Posts: 3414
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2013, 08:14:41 pm »
Phosphoric Acid Substitute cleans them and they don't need recoating.  We sell loads of this stuff to Bikers for their treasured Harleys :D :D

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics Ltd
My mate makes that in his garden shed.
www.cleaning-service.uk.com
www.render-cleaning.co
https://www.cleaning-service.uk.com/bromoco-systems/
Exterior cleaning specialists covering Merseyside,Lancashire and Cheshire. TEL 08000 933267

Rob_Mac

Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2013, 08:42:57 pm »
Hello Christopher, not spoke to you much this week.

Bill & Ben the Flowerpot men lived in a shed :D

Rob ;D

chris scott

  • Posts: 3414
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2013, 09:04:01 pm »
Getting a bit bored on here actually...not with you just in general. Need some stimulating conversation.
www.cleaning-service.uk.com
www.render-cleaning.co
https://www.cleaning-service.uk.com/bromoco-systems/
Exterior cleaning specialists covering Merseyside,Lancashire and Cheshire. TEL 08000 933267

Rob_Mac

Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2013, 09:07:49 pm »
I know how you feel ;)

Rob ;D

chris scott

  • Posts: 3414
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2013, 09:12:48 pm »
Whats it like then at the top of the ladder...running a large company? Any tips for me as i struggle to make a living ?
www.cleaning-service.uk.com
www.render-cleaning.co
https://www.cleaning-service.uk.com/bromoco-systems/
Exterior cleaning specialists covering Merseyside,Lancashire and Cheshire. TEL 08000 933267

Rob_Mac

Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2013, 09:23:29 pm »
Well and truly in my place ;)

Been busy with a late job, on a local store and getting the website up and running for another business venture - the Farrow System.

Just got my third business idea - maybe I am getting above myself ???

Little bit of tweaking on the original website and then onto the third one.

Rob ;D

chris scott

  • Posts: 3414
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2013, 09:33:45 pm »
Well and truly in my place ;)

Been busy with a late job, on a local store and getting the website up and running for another business venture - the Farrow System.

Just got my third business idea - maybe I am getting above myself ???

Little bit of tweaking on the original website and then onto the third one.

Rob ;D
Boat yards (narrowboats)  for the Farrow system £30 per liner foot.. bottom and up to the rubbing strake. Blast and 2 pack epoxy.
www.cleaning-service.uk.com
www.render-cleaning.co
https://www.cleaning-service.uk.com/bromoco-systems/
Exterior cleaning specialists covering Merseyside,Lancashire and Cheshire. TEL 08000 933267

BDCS

  • Posts: 4777
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2013, 09:41:03 pm »
I had a thought today - I was cleaning a tumbled drive that was said to be 36 Sq m which was more like 180, outside a converted barn that had just had heaps spent on it. I might buy one of those hplv airless sprayer doo dars and make a fortune toshing black jap over old barns. Maybe I'll just stick to what I'm doing and scraping a meagre crust  ;)

Rob_Mac

Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2013, 09:42:34 pm »
I've split the services offered into 5 areas but funnily enough I didn't even think about boats, Doh!!! even though I have seen all of the clips. Will add that one on.

We have got narrow boats all around here, loads of canals and a big marina in Stoke. I am a fr8ging donut!

Website should look the business!

Rob ;D

Rob_Mac

Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2013, 09:43:33 pm »
Carl

We are all just a bunch of one trick ponies ;D

Rob ;D

chris scott

  • Posts: 3414
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2013, 09:55:17 pm »
I've split the services offered into 5 areas but funnily enough I didn't even think about boats, Doh!!! even though I have seen all of the clips. Will add that one on.

We have got narrow boats all around here, loads of canals and a big marina in Stoke. I am a fr8ging donut!

Website should look the business!

Rob ;D
You really don't have a clue do you? ???
What are the five areas?  Stoke on Trent,Stone,Burslem,FentoN and Hanley
www.cleaning-service.uk.com
www.render-cleaning.co
https://www.cleaning-service.uk.com/bromoco-systems/
Exterior cleaning specialists covering Merseyside,Lancashire and Cheshire. TEL 08000 933267

Rob_Mac

Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2013, 10:00:09 pm »
The five towns of the beautiful Stoke on Trent. It is like the land of manna from heaven ;D.

Rob ;D

Roger Oakley

Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2013, 10:02:51 pm »
The five towns of the beautiful Stoke on Trent. It is like the land of manna from heaven ;D.

Rob ;D
Manna from Heaven, No That's Surrey, you one trick pony you  ;D ;D ;D
How you doing anyway Rob

Rob_Mac

Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2013, 10:04:18 pm »
For a fat northerner I'm doing okay mate ;)

You busy?

Rob ;D

chris scott

  • Posts: 3414
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2013, 10:06:38 pm »
I've split the services offered into 5 areas but funnily enough I didn't even think about boats, Doh!!! even though I have seen all of the clips. Will add that one on.

We have got narrow boats all around here, loads of canals and a big marina in Stoke. I am a fr8ging donut!

Website should look the business!

Rob ;D
You really don't have a clue do you? ???
What are the five areas?  Stoke on Trent,Stone,Burslem,FentoN and Hanley
Sorry that was a bit harsh...i'm trying to be nice xxx
www.cleaning-service.uk.com
www.render-cleaning.co
https://www.cleaning-service.uk.com/bromoco-systems/
Exterior cleaning specialists covering Merseyside,Lancashire and Cheshire. TEL 08000 933267

Rob_Mac

Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2013, 10:08:47 pm »
Chris

Tell me I haven't got a clue when I post the website. I will allow you only to critique it and may give you a preview before it goes live. You lucky boy you ;)

Rob ;D

Roger Oakley

Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2013, 10:14:44 pm »
Yes as usual, part way through 500 sq of sandstone patio and 36 pieces Teak furniture full restore. Everything cleaned this week and started to re-oil, quoting tomorrow in Soho, indoor health club pool surround all decking, so should be interesting, I did give your details out to a call we got this week down here house wash all render, thought it might be ideal for the Farrow.

chris scott

  • Posts: 3414
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2013, 10:16:05 pm »
Chris

Tell me I haven't got a clue when I post the website. I will allow you only to critique it and may give you a preview before it goes live. You lucky boy you ;)

Rob ;D
Your M-Clean website is a smart (looking) , informative and gives  the viewer an excellent impression of a large company doing well...just like my Northwestdriveclean one.....it's only a website.
www.cleaning-service.uk.com
www.render-cleaning.co
https://www.cleaning-service.uk.com/bromoco-systems/
Exterior cleaning specialists covering Merseyside,Lancashire and Cheshire. TEL 08000 933267

Rob_Mac

Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2013, 10:18:07 pm »
Thanks for that Rog. I'll wait for the call.

Put it in for a full service a week ago, still waiting for the lambswool filter, I think they ordered the wrong one and are waiting for the second one to come in.

What are you doing with the sandstone?

Rob ;D

Rob_Mac

Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2013, 10:19:29 pm »
Not that one Chris - that misrepresents me!

The Macblast one for the Farrow System

Rob ;D

Roger Oakley

Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2013, 10:34:49 pm »
Thanks for that Rog. I'll wait for the call.

Put it in for a full service a week ago, still waiting for the lambswool filter, I think they ordered the wrong one and are waiting for the second one to come in.

What are you doing with the sandstone?

Rob ;D

Usual deep clean, hasn't been cleaned properly before, but client is already over the moon, they haven't seen any of the furniture yet, as they are now away and we are working at their estate while they are away, daily updates etc, everyones happy.

chris scott

  • Posts: 3414
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2013, 10:36:01 pm »
Not that one Chris - that misrepresents me!

The Macblast one for the Farrow System

Rob ;D
Are you scottish?
www.cleaning-service.uk.com
www.render-cleaning.co
https://www.cleaning-service.uk.com/bromoco-systems/
Exterior cleaning specialists covering Merseyside,Lancashire and Cheshire. TEL 08000 933267

Rob_Mac

Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2013, 10:38:38 pm »
Roger

Chris has got an estate, full of heathland, grouse & reindeer. He is the lord of Crosby and can be found in his tweed breeches, at the local drinking hole.

You get some cracking jobs in mate ;)

Chris - the clue is in the name - it is in the genes ;)

Rob ;D

Roger Oakley

Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2013, 10:51:44 pm »
Cheers Rob,

You know how we work, anyway client had, had enough of this heat and flew to their place in Switzerland !! so have codes to everything, now that's trust, I'll try to put a couple of photos up later of what we are doing.
This will now become a year on year client as well so happy days

Rob_Mac

Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2013, 10:55:44 pm »
That is a lesson to everyone on here - how to run a business, well done mate I am proud to know you personally ;)

Rob ;D

Roger Oakley

Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2013, 11:35:32 pm »
Here you go Rob,
Can only show part's of the area, can't include the house etc, you'll understand.
Indian Sandstone entrance before, covered in Lichen


Same area zero Lichen

Matt Gibson

  • Posts: 2482
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2013, 04:35:33 am »
You repointing too Roger?

Rob_Mac

Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2013, 06:14:31 am »
Matt

04.35 your reply - have you got insomnia? ;D

Roger - Superb before & after pictures ;)

Rob ;D

chris scott

  • Posts: 3414
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #34 on: July 27, 2013, 06:43:17 am »
How badly laid is that Indian sandstone...shocking!
www.cleaning-service.uk.com
www.render-cleaning.co
https://www.cleaning-service.uk.com/bromoco-systems/
Exterior cleaning specialists covering Merseyside,Lancashire and Cheshire. TEL 08000 933267

Rob_Mac

Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #35 on: July 27, 2013, 06:45:42 am »
Morning :)

Rob ;D

B Bailey

  • Posts: 198
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #36 on: July 27, 2013, 07:21:12 am »
Great pcs Roger

Roger Oakley

Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2013, 08:51:22 am »
You repointing too Roger?

No Matt, they are having someone come in to re-point at a later date, paving has been down about 10-15 years.

Roger Oakley

Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #38 on: July 27, 2013, 08:53:29 am »
How badly laid is that Indian sandstone...shocking!
Wouldn't say it was badly laid Chris, pointing is shot in places but pretty sound other then that.

chris scott

  • Posts: 3414
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2013, 09:54:19 am »
How badly laid is that Indian sandstone...shocking!
Wouldn't say it was badly laid Chris, pointing is shot in places but pretty sound other then that.
Never ever lay with 4 corners together! Never use "straight lines " more than 2m. Some of the joint widths are a little dubious too .
www.cleaning-service.uk.com
www.render-cleaning.co
https://www.cleaning-service.uk.com/bromoco-systems/
Exterior cleaning specialists covering Merseyside,Lancashire and Cheshire. TEL 08000 933267

BDCS

  • Posts: 4777
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #40 on: July 27, 2013, 10:02:24 am »
And I suppose you have a 6 bedroon gaff with perfectly laid sandstone around the whole house and the pool - grren eyed monster maybe  ;D

Roger Oakley

Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #41 on: July 27, 2013, 10:37:49 am »
How badly laid is that Indian sandstone...shocking!
Wouldn't say it was badly laid Chris, pointing is shot in places but pretty sound other then that.
Never ever lay with 4 corners together! Never use "straight lines " more than 2m. Some of the joint widths are a little dubious too .

I don't lay or repair them Chris just clean and/or seal them.

chris scott

  • Posts: 3414
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #42 on: July 27, 2013, 11:18:35 am »
And I suppose you have a 6 bedroon gaff with perfectly laid sandstone around the whole house and the pool - grren eyed monster maybe  ;D
No ..only a one bedroomed caravan me ,my boyfriend and our 6 cats live in. I'm not the jealous type.
It's still a badly laid job.
www.cleaning-service.uk.com
www.render-cleaning.co
https://www.cleaning-service.uk.com/bromoco-systems/
Exterior cleaning specialists covering Merseyside,Lancashire and Cheshire. TEL 08000 933267

Rob_Mac

Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #43 on: July 27, 2013, 11:52:40 am »
He courts controversy like a present day president Nixon ;D

He swashbuckles through posts like Johnny Depp ;D

Got to love him :D

Rob ;D

Matt Gibson

  • Posts: 2482
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #44 on: July 27, 2013, 01:05:22 pm »
Matt

04.35 your reply - have you got insomnia? ;D

Roger - Superb before & after pictures ;)

Rob ;D

Rob,

I was up early to clean some fake stone at a McDonalds. Made my money and was home for 10am  ;) Now enjoying my first beer with lunch.

Kev Martin

  • Posts: 6954
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #45 on: July 27, 2013, 06:55:19 pm »
You don't need anything so strong.  Aqua mix Phosphoric Acid Substitute cleans them and they don't need recoating.  We sell loads of this stuff to Bikers for their treasured Harleys :D :D

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics Ltd
Hi kev, how much is it for that stuff mate?

Rob

It is about £12 off me for a gallon but you can probably get it off Chris's mate who knocks it up in his garden shed forabout 30p iincluding p&p.  I don't know why I bother importing a 1000 Gallons of it a time from Aqua Mix? I think I will start getting it off his mate in his shed ???
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

Kenny83

  • Posts: 1131
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #46 on: July 27, 2013, 07:41:42 pm »
You don't need anything so strong.  Aqua mix Phosphoric Acid Substitute cleans them and they don't need recoating.  We sell loads of this stuff to Bikers for their treasured Harleys :D :D

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics Ltd
Hi kev, how much is it for that stuff mate?

Rob

It is about £12 off me for a gallon but you can probably get it off Chris's mate who knocks it up in his garden shed forabout 30p iincluding p&p.  I don't know why I bother importing a 1000 Gallons of it a time from Aqua Mix? I think I will start getting it off his mate in his shed ???
That sounds cheap mate, it's usually the postage that's the killer when sending 5 litre tubs, I'll have a gallon off you mate, whats the best way to go about it? paypal? phone order?
Thanks
Pressure Washing -
www.powerwashcleaning.co.uk

chris scott

  • Posts: 3414
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #47 on: July 27, 2013, 10:43:01 pm »
You don't need anything so strong.  Aqua mix Phosphoric Acid Substitute cleans them and they don't need recoating.  We sell loads of this stuff to Bikers for their treasured Harleys :D :D

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics Ltd
Hi kev, how much is it for that stuff mate?

Rob

It is about £12 off me for a gallon but you can probably get it off Chris's mate who knocks it up in his garden shed forabout 30p iincluding p&p.  I don't know why I bother importing a 1000 Gallons of it a time from Aqua Mix? I think I will start getting it off his mate in his shed ???
No problem ..i'll get him to make you some . Do you require a sample first?
This what i like to see people buying British.
How much do you require...an IBC full? Do you want "own label"?.
www.cleaning-service.uk.com
www.render-cleaning.co
https://www.cleaning-service.uk.com/bromoco-systems/
Exterior cleaning specialists covering Merseyside,Lancashire and Cheshire. TEL 08000 933267

Kev Martin

  • Posts: 6954
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #48 on: July 29, 2013, 07:37:59 pm »
You don't need anything so strong.  Aqua mix Phosphoric Acid Substitute cleans them and they don't need recoating.  We sell loads of this stuff to Bikers for their treasured Harleys :D :D

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics Ltd
Hi kev, how much is it for that stuff mate?

Rob

It is about £12 off me for a gallon but you can probably get it off Chris's mate who knocks it up in his garden shed forabout 30p iincluding p&p.  I don't know why I bother importing a 1000 Gallons of it a time from Aqua Mix? I think I will start getting it off his mate in his shed ???
That sounds cheap mate, it's usually the postage that's the killer when sending 5 litre tubs, I'll have a gallon off you mate, whats the best way to go about it? paypal? phone order?
Thanks

I have just checked it price is £13.29 + VAT for a Gallon but you are right the postage kills it because it is £7.95 for next day courier whether you buy 1 or 6 price is same for courier.

If you want it call me on 0121 705 5333 tomorrow and i will sort you a trade account.

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics Ltd
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

Kenny83

  • Posts: 1131
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #49 on: July 29, 2013, 11:56:26 pm »
Kevin, will ring you in a week or so as I'm just in sunny Majorca for a week  ;D
Pressure Washing -
www.powerwashcleaning.co.uk

Kev Martin

  • Posts: 6954
Re: Roller Shuttle Cleaning...
« Reply #50 on: July 30, 2013, 09:13:52 am »
Kevin, will ring you in a week or so as I'm just in sunny Majorca for a week  ;D

Get off the Forums then and enjoy it ;D  Sun, Sea, Pool & Lots of luverly Beer 8) 8)

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics Ltd
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics