JandS

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Expensive brushes
« on: April 25, 2024, 07:50:27 pm »
Anyone tried these brushes...are they really worth the price tag.
https://www.futureofcleaning.com/collections/radial-brushes
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zesty

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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2024, 08:40:21 pm »
I’ve never needed anything more than an xtreme brush.

The reach it prices are obscene!

windowswashed

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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2024, 10:29:20 pm »
They are too expensive. Are they good ..... yes, miles better than the rest out there. Would I use any other make of brush ...... no chance!

AuRavelling79

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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2024, 10:42:31 pm »
They are too expensive. Are they good ..... yes, miles better than the rest out there. Would I use any other make of brush ...... no chance!

Seeking clarification. Which brushes do you mean. And why?
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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2024, 11:12:05 pm »
Two main reasons why radial range are better:
1. bristles are fewer yet more compact
2. rinse bars give out a curvature effect

Stoots

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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2024, 06:45:26 am »
Same as ionics stuff

Overpriced 💩

 

zesty

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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2024, 07:00:50 am »
I’ve never really understood the brush obsessions.

I clean first cleans, facias, soffits, gutters, windows, my van, etc etc. All with an xtreme brush, have done got years on end. I’ve never, ever, needed a different brush.

I just don’t see any benefit. I’ve used other brushes in the past, never made me faster, never made the day any easier, it’s just bristles on the glass, they all do the exact same thing…

AuRavelling79

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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2024, 08:34:27 am »
Two main reasons why radial range are better:
1. bristles are fewer yet more compact
2. rinse bars give out a curvature effect

Sorry to press for more details, I don't understand what this means in practice - how much faster are they than a typical wfp brush - do they get stuck on stuff off or is it rinsing - and why?
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Smudger

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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2024, 08:35:06 am »
Same as ionics stuff

Overpriced 💩

Have you tried them?
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richard connett

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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2024, 09:19:28 am »
If the bristles were guaranteed not to fall out within a year it would be interesting but by the looks of it wouldn’t get into corners of window frames 

M & C Window Cleaning

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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2024, 11:05:35 am »
There would have to serious wow factor to these brushes at the price they are for them to get me away from the brushes I currently use.

The only way that would happen for me is if they cleaned, rinsed and removed snail trails with one or two passes because that's about the only thing that would make my working day better in terms of kit. But at the price these brushes are I doubt I'd buy to try even if they made that claim.
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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2024, 11:12:52 am »
some people are happy with a Dacia

others like a Rolls Royce

both do the same thing - one exceptionally better than the other
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Soupy

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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2024, 11:28:35 am »
Personally, I've seen very little useful innovation in brushes in at least 10 years, maybe there is some crazy new brush on the market that's more efficient or hard wearing? I doubt it though.

The constructor brush is just like all the other reach-it products - overly and unnecessarily complicated and too expensive.

Flocked bristles, light and hard wearing stock, fits on the end of yer pole - shoots out water. That's all you need from a brush.
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Soupy

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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2024, 11:31:23 am »
some people are happy with a Dacia

others like a Rolls Royce

both do the same thing - one exceptionally better than the other

Bad analogy.

A RR is a luxury item. A brush is a tool of the trade: it needs to be functional and cost effective, not so for a luxury motor.
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NBwcs

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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2024, 12:29:37 pm »
I might be wrong here but I have a feeling the prices shown are actually much less than they used to be  :o.

When I 1st came across them they had a disclaimer right on their homepage (not there last time I looked) basically saying you had to use the brush in exactly the way they described to achieve the results they were claiming. I mean just how many complaints would you have had to have received to make you put a creviat on the advert for the product your selling!

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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2024, 12:56:16 pm »
And they're never, ever going to get spiders nests out the corners of lower sash windows!! They 'may' be ok for walls of glass but no good as domestic brushes. You don't need Michael Fish to tell you it's raining!!
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Smudger

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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2024, 05:47:29 pm »
Ok you can see what I’m driving at but hey ho I’ll give you this

You can use a SILVERLINE. Micrometer or use the most accurate Mitutoyo micrometer

Both do a job - one is ok for jobbing work, ok build quality may last a year not overly easy to use or accurate the other - acurate to .0001” easy to use, last a lifetime produces perfect measurements/results

Hope this is ok
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windowswashed

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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2024, 07:51:20 pm »
Two main reasons why radial range are better:
1. bristles are fewer yet more compact
2. rinse bars give out a curvature effect

Sorry to press for more details, I don't understand what this means in practice - how much faster are they than a typical wfp brush - do they get stuck on stuff off or is it rinsing - and why?

To appreciate the benefits of using it reach-it brushes which improve the speed of cleaning windows it's no good using 5mm internal pole hose and 6mm internal microbore hose otherwise you will be running your pump flat out draining the battery and still not have a decent flow of water.
I use a lightweight flat hose which has a 10mm internal hose with 12mm external hose on my electric hose reel. I use 8mm internal pole hose with 10mm external on every pole, this gives ample water to appreciate a high flow of water running a pump on a setting of 64 on a flow controller.
Bristles on Radial brushes are so compact it prevents the water running down through the bristles, it sits above the row of bristles and runs around the curved part of the brush when slightly tilted at an angle meaning a non broken surface tension to the edge of the window frame even when rubber seals repel the water using other brushes. Cleaning hydrophobic glass is a joy using these brushes. The brushes are built to last much longer than anything else and doesn't deform, value for money in the long run.

the king

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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2024, 08:33:39 pm »
Two main reasons why radial range are better:
1. bristles are fewer yet more compact
2. rinse bars give out a curvature effect

Sorry to press for more details, I don't understand what this means in practice - how much faster are they than a typical wfp brush - do they get stuck on stuff off or is it rinsing - and why?

To appreciate the benefits of using it reach-it brushes which improve the speed of cleaning windows it's no good using 5mm internal pole hose and 6mm internal microbore hose otherwise you will be running your pump flat out draining the battery and still not have a decent flow of water.
I use a lightweight flat hose which has a 10mm internal hose with 12mm external hose on my electric hose reel. I use 8mm internal pole hose with 10mm external on every pole, this gives ample water to appreciate a high flow of water running a pump on a setting of 64 on a flow controller.
Bristles on Radial brushes are so compact it prevents the water running down through the bristles, it sits above the row of bristles and runs around the curved part of the brush when slightly tilted at an angle meaning a non broken surface tension to the edge of the window frame even when rubber seals repel the water using other brushes. Cleaning hydrophobic glass is a joy using these brushes. The brushes are built to last much longer than anything else and doesn't deform, value for money in the long run.
  how do they cope with hot water i did look at the one with pads on the inside witch i thought was a grate idea having the option of diffenent pads only things that put me off was the high water flow and waight of the brush

Smudger

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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2024, 08:35:50 pm »
If I were still on the tools I would buy one

Not worth it for staff
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windowswashed

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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2024, 08:49:54 pm »
The Radial Rocker brush:
 (I have a 14in version more scrubbing power pounds per force than a larger 18in) and find it a heavy brush to use. Only use it on heavily soiled glass or if someone has thrown egg and eggshell on glass. Blue steel pad is the best for removing egg, it works better than bronze wool, magic erasure and green bee rubber pad). Used on solar panels for removing lichen, adequate.

Only use cold or warm water and bristles don't deform or fall out even on conservatories which tend to pull bristles from other brushes. Can buy replacement bristles if need be. The thing that tends to wear out is the bumper protectors every six-twelve months as a rule through heavy use daily.

AuRavelling79

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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2024, 10:06:40 pm »
Thanks for the comprehensive reply, WW!
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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2024, 04:04:24 pm »
Same as ionics stuff

Overpriced 💩


Overpriced yes but the majority of there stuff is very good quality

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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2024, 05:01:17 pm »
Cleaning panels with steel pads sounds iffy. Wonder why he doesn’t just put a scaff tower up so he can reach it properly and see what he’s doing?

I would buy one if I was a solo window cleaner.
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Viscount

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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2024, 05:57:52 pm »
Been using a standard radial brush since September. Always used Tucker and Gardiner super light in the past. This time window cleaning I used an x-line Dupont sill brush. I have used a vikan back in the day and homemade Addis floor brush on my home made fishing pole modular pole.

Honestly, it isn't expensive for how good it is. It is way better than all the other brushes I've used and I'm getting a super-lite version  and a rocker version. I get why people want to put them down, but I ain't going back. Not a chance. But I get why people are reluctant. I was always a sucker for different kit - the Tucker pole (original brass coloured aluminium) back in 2005 was
like that. It was amazingly engineered, but heavy and fiddle to use. The brush was unequaled. But the radial brush is better and even better engineered. Wouldn't touch anything else now except for fascias and stuff.

Viscount

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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2024, 05:59:48 pm »
Oh, and it doesn't lose bristles, but they do wear slowly. I have a new bristle set coming. All the parts are replaceable.

tlwcs

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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2024, 06:39:18 pm »
Too heavy for me at any price

windowswashed

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Re: Expensive brushes
« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2024, 09:27:22 pm »
Radial lite 18 inch is my go to everyday brush. Also like using the small radial lites for French panes as I have quite a few deep framed ones  doing them all day long is a pain in the rear but ok with these brushes.

I started off using them gold coloured Tucker poles as well and the 60ft one put muscles on you  ;D Couldn't beat an original Tucker brush for scrubbing power at the time.