[Paul Coleman]

I checked after reading this thread.  It seems that my pump draws power from my 85 amp leisure battery at about 9 amps (100 PSI flojet).  Anyway I understand that batteries don't fully charge after a while so let's assume I have 72 amps to play with (even number).  That would give 8 hours solid use before it was totally flat.  Presumably there would be performance degradation a long time before that.
I suppose a lot depends on how much driving is done between jobs.  I think my van battery is getting near the end of its life now.  The van is over 4 years old on the original battery and 5 years usually seems to be their limit (sometimes 6).  I flattened the van battery about a year ago just by leaving headlights on for half an hour (got it re-started with my trolley battery).

People are mentioning other pumps and I'm wondering if a 100PSI flojet is a bit juicy at 9 amp/hours?

[JohnL]

Blimey John, mines 8 years old,  and its a 100ampH leisure one.

jeff1 - I am not up with batteries and your spec seems odd, ie a 12v 100amph leisure? I have looked at he Maplin site and cannot find a reference to it.

I know its me but it needs spelling out I am afraid!   

[jeff1]

Blimey John, mines 8 years old,  and its a 100ampH leisure one.

jeff1 - I am not up with batteries and your spec seems odd, ie a 12v 100amph leisure? I have looked at he Maplin site and cannot find a reference to it.

I know its me but it needs spelling out I am afraid!   

Mines probably out of date now, it wasn't 8 yrs ago, go for the 110ampH one, but shop around first, I found Halfords expensive, but if you have a battery or caravan shop around by you, then check out all there prices first.

[Mhall]

Brodex installed my system straight from my van battery, i've had to bump start it a couple of times if ive not ran the van for long that day!! Looking into a solution at the mo

[Paul Coleman]

Brodex installed my system straight from my van battery, i've had to bump start it a couple of times if ive not ran the van for long that day!! Looking into a solution at the mo

One solution would be to do what I do.  Take a spare key out with you and run the engine for a while as you work.  Obviously better to do this off road if possible (it's illegal to do this on the public highway).  Also maybe run the engine while you're having a break sitting in the van.

[Spursboy1972]

Split relay that was put on my van and was then tested. It was working/charging at between 13.6 and 14.1

[RPCCS]

I have a 2016 Vauxhall Vivaro, which I use for purified water for cleaning.  I want to fit a charger for water pump of water cleaning system , can anyone talk me how to do this rather than put it into a garage please? The negative on engine battery  has a certain connector on negative terminal, how do I wire split charger in  the vehicle ?

[Splash & dash]

I have a 2016 Vauxhall Vivaro, which I use for purified water for cleaning.  I want to fit a charger for water pump of water cleaning system , can anyone talk me how to do this rather than put it into a garage please? The negative on engine battery  has a certain connector on negative terminal, how do I wire split charger in  the vehicle ?

This post is 17 years old doubt you will get a reply

[Don Kee]

I have a 2016 Vauxhall Vivaro, which I use for purified water for cleaning.  I want to fit a charger for water pump of water cleaning system , can anyone talk me how to do this rather than put it into a garage please? The negative on engine battery  has a certain connector on negative terminal, how do I wire split charger in  the vehicle ?

This post is 17 years old doubt you will get a reply

“Ones” could reply to him now?

[Don Kee]

I have a 2016 Vauxhall Vivaro, which I use for purified water for cleaning.  I want to fit a charger for water pump of water cleaning system , can anyone talk me how to do this rather than put it into a garage please? The negative on engine battery  has a certain connector on negative terminal, how do I wire split charger in  the vehicle ?

Are you using a leisure battery for your pumps and does your vehicle have regenerative braking?

[RPCCS]

I think it’s a leisure battery which needs a new one, not sure if it has  regenative system though.

[Splash & dash]

I have a 2016 Vauxhall Vivaro, which I use for purified water for cleaning.  I want to fit a charger for water pump of water cleaning system , can anyone talk me how to do this rather than put it into a garage please? The negative on engine battery  has a certain connector on negative terminal, how do I wire split charger in  the vehicle ?

This post is 17 years old doubt you will get a reply

“Ones” could reply to him now?

Yes but the op and most of the others haven’t been on here for years

[Spruce]

I think it’s a leisure battery which needs a new one, not sure if it has  regenative system though.

A 2016 year van will definitely have some form of smart alternator.

My suggestion is to buy one of those cheap volt meters that plug into your cigarette lighter and watch what the volt meter reads as you drive around.
The meter should hopefully read a voltage of between 13.9 and 14.2v with normal driving. If it does that continuously then you can get away with a VSR (Voltage Sensing Relay.) Durite or equivalent, 140 amp will do you fine. (There are some rather strange named units on Ebay I see.)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/194948318353?itmmeta=01HQBC2ATRFFVMMAQPDEEZ9852&hash=item2d63d34491:g:3xoAAOSwJ05iRaSl&itmprp=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8PJhRSlZ7JggBaZ29seIiC%2FWrUB5vOsJ8XrYG3Y1AxEcm2zeTSEh0FwXUhDgXPTw9zlva3scM1bzfZsZjiwWmLqhP6NhIYgN1e36%2BnnK7sz4Okj1jqjBgg1TNUDHxIwGbhNBqbsFEVAxbVNJrMn8B1WM4mS5LEPDIRJ%2BWqrm29muAbYEgI%2FFQ3y8cC4lSzRHS%2BlBU4L0UjEpu0tRZdFSM7G6HPp0Lp7HQ9mQyo6sjDHC7dmHfwH%2F5IBZ7SBjRpXHzIx63WscXPrHQXeeYuIKJ9AcjqCYJ3w9Dw7DZD4J%2BIMf1KD1tFEcTyommyrXgb996A%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABFBM1q6J7Lpj

If the voltage drops to 12v with the engine running and then jumps up 16 -18v when going down hill and your foot off the accelerator, then you need a battery to battery charger.

Personally, I would go for a Victron 12v 30amp battery to battery charger as you can adjust charging profiles with an app on your phone.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/313512787138?epid=13041451341&itmmeta=01HQBC6ZA10HPKDV4V968G9XF7&hash=item48fed17cc2:g:tUkAAOSw~-RlCIcf&itmprp=enc%3AAQAIAAAA0HwePtz622uVbuxeeOImzmuF8%2Bi9jTl9TY6MCpwSHZKbarKKLdrIiMmjLDNS%2Bc11QLASRN8mCNC69Rupsm7Iani%2BNFTXErptJcmiKNHfTS0%2BDAN2rLYbmJEGoEo6OnDS4Y6d%2Bt7dI85LnpBZeTxK0hirIc6R5LAJAKVGDANpb9k8ez61RCoSu5f2i6Kmr58B4WKPF1f8KRJ8ocaI%2BbnOBIBmqgCJxVOwFMgtDSg3EsHZ%2FFB1C745Qi%2BAORWqN88QZEcC9N%2FQSck5R0JYP6MRQ60%3D%7Ctkp%3ABlBMUIz1m-y6Yw

 It is much less complicated than a Sterling BB1230 or BB1260 to set up.

There are dozens of YouTube videos on how to fit these to camper vans etc.

When charging a lead acid leisure battery, the most charge that the battery will accept is between 10 and 12 amps. As the battery gets a fuller and fuller charge, it accepts and lower and lower rate of charge. This is why a 30 amp unit is fine.

Lead acid batteries need to be recharged and kept fully charged asap. We charged our leisure battery every night with our smart 230v charger even with a battery to battery charger.

[RPCCS]

I think it’s a leisure battery which needs a new one, not sure if it has  regenative system though.

A 2016 year van will definitely have some form of smart alternator.

My suggestion is to buy one of those cheap volt meters that plug into your cigarette lighter and watch what the volt meter reads as you drive around.
The meter should hopefully read a voltage of between 13.9 and 14.2v with normal driving. If it does that continuously then you can get away with a VSR (Voltage Sensing Relay.) Durite or equivalent, 140 amp will do you fine. (There are some rather strange named units on Ebay I see.)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/194948318353?itmmeta=01HQBC2ATRFFVMMAQPDEEZ9852&hash=item2d63d34491:g:3xoAAOSwJ05iRaSl&itmprp=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8PJhRSlZ7JggBaZ29seIiC%2FWrUB5vOsJ8XrYG3Y1AxEcm2zeTSEh0FwXUhDgXPTw9zlva3scM1bzfZsZjiwWmLqhP6NhIYgN1e36%2BnnK7sz4Okj1jqjBgg1TNUDHxIwGbhNBqbsFEVAxbVNJrMn8B1WM4mS5LEPDIRJ%2BWqrm29muAbYEgI%2FFQ3y8cC4lSzRHS%2BlBU4L0UjEpu0tRZdFSM7G6HPp0Lp7HQ9mQyo6sjDHC7dmHfwH%2F5IBZ7SBjRpXHzIx63WscXPrHQXeeYuIKJ9AcjqCYJ3w9Dw7DZD4J%2BIMf1KD1tFEcTyommyrXgb996A%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABFBM1q6J7Lpj

If the voltage drops to 12v with the engine running and then jumps up 16 -18v when going down hill and your foot off the accelerator, then you need a battery to battery charger.

Personally, I would go for a Victron 12v 30amp battery to battery charger as you can adjust charging profiles with an app on your phone.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/313512787138?epid=13041451341&itmmeta=01HQBC6ZA10HPKDV4V968G9XF7&hash=item48fed17cc2:g:tUkAAOSw~-RlCIcf&itmprp=enc%3AAQAIAAAA0HwePtz622uVbuxeeOImzmuF8%2Bi9jTl9TY6MCpwSHZKbarKKLdrIiMmjLDNS%2Bc11QLASRN8mCNC69Rupsm7Iani%2BNFTXErptJcmiKNHfTS0%2BDAN2rLYbmJEGoEo6OnDS4Y6d%2Bt7dI85LnpBZeTxK0hirIc6R5LAJAKVGDANpb9k8ez61RCoSu5f2i6Kmr58B4WKPF1f8KRJ8ocaI%2BbnOBIBmqgCJxVOwFMgtDSg3EsHZ%2FFB1C745Qi%2BAORWqN88QZEcC9N%2FQSck5R0JYP6MRQ60%3D%7Ctkp%3ABlBMUIz1m-y6Yw

 It is much less complicated than a Sterling BB1230 or BB1260 to set up.

There are dozens of YouTube videos on how to fit these to camper vans etc.

When charging a lead acid leisure battery, the most charge that the battery will accept is between 10 and 12 amps. As the battery gets a fuller and fuller charge, it accepts and lower and lower rate of charge. This is why a 30 amp unit is fine.

Lead acid batteries need to be recharged and kept fully charged asap. We charged our leisure battery every night with our smart 230v charger even with a battery to battery charger.

Many thanks indeed Spruce,  that’s perfect stuff I need to look at.
I haven’t been at work for almost 3 years , I had an accident while cleaning out gutters and stood on the roof of an extension  to look at next door’s rear gutters and apparently I fell off into next door garden , bashed my head on concrete ground  and was rushed to hospital and had half my left side of the head removed and stopped bleeding from the edge of the brain.
 I’m hoping to continue starting work by the start of spring this year, but I’m banned from using ladders for doing landing or bedroom windows  now.
 But once again many thanks for your help.

[Don Kee]

I haven’t been at work for almost 3 years , I had an accident while cleaning out gutters and stood on the roof of an extension  to look at next door’s rear gutters and apparently I fell off into next door garden , bashed my head on concrete ground  and was rushed to hospital and had half my left side of the head removed and stopped bleeding from the edge of the brain.

Good luck with the comeback mate, back stronger and all that.

[Don Kee]

Yes but the op and most of the others haven’t been on here for years

So?

Why don’t you try helping him then?
Christ, you go on about how you know everything often enough, try to actually help someone for once.

[Smudger]

Wow!

Well done on the recovery so far - I’m sure we can provide the right info when you need it

[Bungle]

I think it’s a leisure battery which needs a new one, not sure if it has  regenative system though.

A 2016 year van will definitely have some form of smart alternator.

My suggestion is to buy one of those cheap volt meters that plug into your cigarette lighter and watch what the volt meter reads as you drive around.
The meter should hopefully read a voltage of between 13.9 and 14.2v with normal driving. If it does that continuously then you can get away with a VSR (Voltage Sensing Relay.) Durite or equivalent, 140 amp will do you fine. (There are some rather strange named units on Ebay I see.)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/194948318353?itmmeta=01HQBC2ATRFFVMMAQPDEEZ9852&hash=item2d63d34491:g:3xoAAOSwJ05iRaSl&itmprp=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8PJhRSlZ7JggBaZ29seIiC%2FWrUB5vOsJ8XrYG3Y1AxEcm2zeTSEh0FwXUhDgXPTw9zlva3scM1bzfZsZjiwWmLqhP6NhIYgN1e36%2BnnK7sz4Okj1jqjBgg1TNUDHxIwGbhNBqbsFEVAxbVNJrMn8B1WM4mS5LEPDIRJ%2BWqrm29muAbYEgI%2FFQ3y8cC4lSzRHS%2BlBU4L0UjEpu0tRZdFSM7G6HPp0Lp7HQ9mQyo6sjDHC7dmHfwH%2F5IBZ7SBjRpXHzIx63WscXPrHQXeeYuIKJ9AcjqCYJ3w9Dw7DZD4J%2BIMf1KD1tFEcTyommyrXgb996A%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABFBM1q6J7Lpj

If the voltage drops to 12v with the engine running and then jumps up 16 -18v when going down hill and your foot off the accelerator, then you need a battery to battery charger.

Personally, I would go for a Victron 12v 30amp battery to battery charger as you can adjust charging profiles with an app on your phone.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/313512787138?epid=13041451341&itmmeta=01HQBC6ZA10HPKDV4V968G9XF7&hash=item48fed17cc2:g:tUkAAOSw~-RlCIcf&itmprp=enc%3AAQAIAAAA0HwePtz622uVbuxeeOImzmuF8%2Bi9jTl9TY6MCpwSHZKbarKKLdrIiMmjLDNS%2Bc11QLASRN8mCNC69Rupsm7Iani%2BNFTXErptJcmiKNHfTS0%2BDAN2rLYbmJEGoEo6OnDS4Y6d%2Bt7dI85LnpBZeTxK0hirIc6R5LAJAKVGDANpb9k8ez61RCoSu5f2i6Kmr58B4WKPF1f8KRJ8ocaI%2BbnOBIBmqgCJxVOwFMgtDSg3EsHZ%2FFB1C745Qi%2BAORWqN88QZEcC9N%2FQSck5R0JYP6MRQ60%3D%7Ctkp%3ABlBMUIz1m-y6Yw

 It is much less complicated than a Sterling BB1230 or BB1260 to set up.

There are dozens of YouTube videos on how to fit these to camper vans etc.

When charging a lead acid leisure battery, the most charge that the battery will accept is between 10 and 12 amps. As the battery gets a fuller and fuller charge, it accepts and lower and lower rate of charge. This is why a 30 amp unit is fine.

Lead acid batteries need to be recharged and kept fully charged asap. We charged our leisure battery every night with our smart 230v charger even with a battery to battery charger.

Many thanks indeed Spruce,  that’s perfect stuff I need to look at.
I haven’t been at work for almost 3 years , I had an accident while cleaning out gutters and stood on the roof of an extension  to look at next door’s rear gutters and apparently I fell off into next door garden , bashed my head on concrete ground  and was rushed to hospital and had half my left side of the head removed and stopped bleeding from the edge of the brain.
 I’m hoping to continue starting work by the start of spring this year, but I’m banned from using ladders for doing landing or bedroom windows  now.
 But once again many thanks for your help.

I take my hat off to you sir. I hope you get sorted out and fair play for wanting to work again. Plenty would milk it.

[RPCCS]

I think it’s a leisure battery which needs a new one, not sure if it has  regenative system though.

A 2016 year van will definitely have some form of smart alternator.

My suggestion is to buy one of those cheap volt meters that plug into your cigarette lighter and watch what the volt meter reads as you drive around.
The meter should hopefully read a voltage of between 13.9 and 14.2v with normal driving. If it does that continuously then you can get away with a VSR (Voltage Sensing Relay.) Durite or equivalent, 140 amp will do you fine. (There are some rather strange named units on Ebay I see.)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/194948318353?itmmeta=01HQBC2ATRFFVMMAQPDEEZ9852&hash=item2d63d34491:g:3xoAAOSwJ05iRaSl&itmprp=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8PJhRSlZ7JggBaZ29seIiC%2FWrUB5vOsJ8XrYG3Y1AxEcm2zeTSEh0FwXUhDgXPTw9zlva3scM1bzfZsZjiwWmLqhP6NhIYgN1e36%2BnnK7sz4Okj1jqjBgg1TNUDHxIwGbhNBqbsFEVAxbVNJrMn8B1WM4mS5LEPDIRJ%2BWqrm29muAbYEgI%2FFQ3y8cC4lSzRHS%2BlBU4L0UjEpu0tRZdFSM7G6HPp0Lp7HQ9mQyo6sjDHC7dmHfwH%2F5IBZ7SBjRpXHzIx63WscXPrHQXeeYuIKJ9AcjqCYJ3w9Dw7DZD4J%2BIMf1KD1tFEcTyommyrXgb996A%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABFBM1q6J7Lpj

If the voltage drops to 12v with the engine running and then jumps up 16 -18v when going down hill and your foot off the accelerator, then you need a battery to battery charger.

Personally, I would go for a Victron 12v 30amp battery to battery charger as you can adjust charging profiles with an app on your phone.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/313512787138?epid=13041451341&itmmeta=01HQBC6ZA10HPKDV4V968G9XF7&hash=item48fed17cc2:g:tUkAAOSw~-RlCIcf&itmprp=enc%3AAQAIAAAA0HwePtz622uVbuxeeOImzmuF8%2Bi9jTl9TY6MCpwSHZKbarKKLdrIiMmjLDNS%2Bc11QLASRN8mCNC69Rupsm7Iani%2BNFTXErptJcmiKNHfTS0%2BDAN2rLYbmJEGoEo6OnDS4Y6d%2Bt7dI85LnpBZeTxK0hirIc6R5LAJAKVGDANpb9k8ez61RCoSu5f2i6Kmr58B4WKPF1f8KRJ8ocaI%2BbnOBIBmqgCJxVOwFMgtDSg3EsHZ%2FFB1C745Qi%2BAORWqN88QZEcC9N%2FQSck5R0JYP6MRQ60%3D%7Ctkp%3ABlBMUIz1m-y6Yw

 It is much less complicated than a Sterling BB1230 or BB1260 to set up.

There are dozens of YouTube videos on how to fit these to camper vans etc.

When charging a lead acid leisure battery, the most charge that the battery will accept is between 10 and 12 amps. As the battery gets a fuller and fuller charge, it accepts and lower and lower rate of charge. This is why a 30 amp unit is fine.

Lead acid batteries need to be recharged and kept fully charged asap. We charged our leisure battery every night with our smart 230v charger even with a battery to battery charger.

Many thanks indeed Spruce,  that’s perfect stuff I need to look at.
I haven’t been at work for almost 3 years , I had an accident while cleaning out gutters and stood on the roof of an extension  to look at next door’s rear gutters and apparently I fell off into next door garden , bashed my head on concrete ground  and was rushed to hospital and had half my left side of the head removed and stopped bleeding from the edge of the brain.
 I’m hoping to continue starting work by the start of spring this year, but I’m banned from using ladders for doing landing or bedroom windows  now.
 But once again many thanks for your help.

I take my hat off to you sir. I hope you get sorted out and fair play for wanting to work again. Plenty would milk it.

Many thanks for  your reply,  and  others said the same, I’m certainly hoping to get back to work  providing I get my licence back,and then continue doing a bit of coach driving  .

[AuRavelling79]

I've just picked up on this thread.

Good luck with your starting work again RPCCS!