The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: A bit of advice from the WFP Pro’s Please
« Reply #60 on: July 01, 2018, 08:56:47 am »
It would not take him long to head back to his vehicle to re fill his trolly.  Not your problem to be honest.
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AuRavelling79

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Re: A bit of advice from the WFP Pro’s Please
« Reply #61 on: July 01, 2018, 08:58:25 am »
If you sack him he'll have more water to do the others properly.

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dazmond

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Re: A bit of advice from the WFP Pro’s Please
« Reply #62 on: July 01, 2018, 08:59:09 am »
Hi Kev - just noticed this thread - been away on holibobs living the high life in my 24 year old caravan.  ;D

You've got a lot from the guys above to think on. But forgive me if I missed it - you said you were having tilt and turn windows fitted and you "only" have three of them?

Can you not do them from the insides now?

If I have missed something and you still want them cleaned externally I would say ...

Most other window cleaners that don't do shops/high streets as a niche will not be interested. Those that do will realise yours is a one off in amongst another window cleaner's work and realise there is little room for expansion. If you were able to get the other flat owners across to a new window cleaner at £40, then would it be worth it to him?

Probably not as he will have the issue of water dripping on shops below and either feel the obligation to clean theirs or feel the wrath when he says "not my problem". Or do them at a time when they aren't about to notice.

All in all I would do them from the inside if not then talk to the other flat owners and ask their view. If you are getting brand new UPVC frames then buttonhole the windy and ask "innocently" whether the new frames get done at the same time as the glass (if your old ones were wood or aluminium he may have avoided doing them for "milk" runs and drips)  as you want everything kept up to scratch.

He will feel a little embarrassed if he has been avoiding top frames and assure you that they will be included as UPVC doesn't cause the same issues as the old non UPVC ones.

The price in my opinion is at the upper end of "OK" but 3 windows will always fall into the "minimum charge" territory which is often £10 - £12 anyway.

The windows are big and although I have had them all fitted with tilt and turn the 4 windows overlooking the high street have to be done from the outside.  I have in the interim had a chat with him and he admits water is an issue as he tries to do all three of our flats (12 large windows in total ) and the 7 shops with one small trolley.  He has told me that he is in the process of getting a slightly larger one so we will see.

told you....... ;D

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AuRavelling79

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Re: A bit of advice from the WFP Pro’s Please
« Reply #63 on: July 01, 2018, 09:02:04 am »
With my caravan head on - you can buy a thing called an aquaroll in 25L or 40L sizes which as you would think lets you roll the water to the point of use very easily.

I would think they would be very useful for backpack and trolley users where you know you will have to "go back for more."

I reckon a clever geezer could adapt one as a form of trolley by using a drop in "Whale" type submersible pump. (as used on caravans)
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dazmond

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Re: A bit of advice from the WFP Pro’s Please
« Reply #64 on: July 01, 2018, 09:08:37 am »
if the window cleaner had any common sense then he d drop  a couple of 25L barrels off near the work before he parks up so he doesnt run out if he cant be arsed going back to the van for more water....

TBH its a lame excuse IMO......
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G Griffin

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Re: A bit of advice from the WFP Pro’s Please
« Reply #65 on: July 01, 2018, 09:44:08 am »
if the window cleaner had any common sense then he d drop  a couple of 25L barrels off near the work before he parks up so he doesnt run out if he cant be arsed going back to the van for more water....

TBH its a lame excuse IMO......
I agree, Daz; and he admitted that it could be an issue. That tells me that he's not that bothered. 
And he could have tradded the shop windows if it was that much of an issue.
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John Mart

Re: A bit of advice from the WFP Pro’s Please
« Reply #66 on: July 01, 2018, 12:49:24 pm »
With my caravan head on - you can buy a thing called an aquaroll in 25L or 40L sizes which as you would think lets you roll the water to the point of use very easily.

I would think they would be very useful for backpack and trolley users where you know you will have to "go back for more."

I reckon a clever geezer could adapt one as a form of trolley by using a drop in "Whale" type submersible pump. (as used on caravans)
A clever geezer would say sod that and look for more profitable work. Who honestly that is busy would fart around with a trolley at 7am to do three flats?

KS Cleaning

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Re: A bit of advice from the WFP Pro’s Please
« Reply #67 on: July 01, 2018, 03:06:36 pm »
With my caravan head on - you can buy a thing called an aquaroll in 25L or 40L sizes which as you would think lets you roll the water to the point of use very easily.

I would think they would be very useful for backpack and trolley users where you know you will have to "go back for more."

I reckon a clever geezer could adapt one as a form of trolley by using a drop in "Whale" type submersible pump. (as used on caravans)
A clever geezer would say sod that and look for more profitable work. Who honestly that is busy would fart around with a trolley at 7am to do three flats?
A clever geezer would read all the posts on this thread and see that not only does the window cleaner do three flats, he does the shops as well. The OP also reckons the window cleaner does £100 in under an hour, pretty profitable in anybody’s book and most people would happily fart around for that kind of money.

John Mart

Re: A bit of advice from the WFP Pro’s Please
« Reply #68 on: July 01, 2018, 03:46:35 pm »
With my caravan head on - you can buy a thing called an aquaroll in 25L or 40L sizes which as you would think lets you roll the water to the point of use very easily.

I would think they would be very useful for backpack and trolley users where you know you will have to "go back for more."

I reckon a clever geezer could adapt one as a form of trolley by using a drop in "Whale" type submersible pump. (as used on caravans)
A clever geezer would say sod that and look for more profitable work. Who honestly that is busy would fart around with a trolley at 7am to do three flats?
A clever geezer would read all the posts on this thread and see that not only does the window cleaner do three flats, he does the shops as well. The OP also reckons the window cleaner does £100 in under an hour, pretty profitable in anybody’s book and most people would happily fart around for that kind of money.
With the same trolley load of water? Guessing he blades the shops which makes the flats a faff. The OP has no idea what the guy’s making an hour. The fact is it’s a pain in the arse job and most wouldn’t bother unless they needed the work.  Certainly who wants to roll a barrel of water to clean three flats?  ;D

Missing Link

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Re: A bit of advice from the WFP Pro’s Please
« Reply #69 on: July 01, 2018, 03:55:02 pm »
A clever geezer would say sod that and look for more profitable work. Who honestly that is busy would fart around with a trolley at 7am to do three flats?

I agree.  And the potential hassle from an ungrateful customer to boot.  ;D

I picked up a real live palace on Friday.  Originally one of three palaces, but this is the only one left out of the group.  Parts of it are 700 years old.

It's just been through a refurbishment in preparation for posh weddings and hotel use.

I just felt the need to share that. ;D
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John Mart

Re: A bit of advice from the WFP Pro’s Please
« Reply #70 on: July 01, 2018, 04:23:15 pm »
A clever geezer would say sod that and look for more profitable work. Who honestly that is busy would fart around with a trolley at 7am to do three flats?

I agree.  And the potential hassle from an ungrateful customer to boot.  ;D

I picked up a real live palace on Friday.  Originally one of three palaces, but this is the only one left out of the group.  Parts of it are 700 years old.

It's just been through a refurbishment in preparation for posh weddings and hotel use.

I just felt the need to share that. ;D
Disclosure agreements prevent me telling you the palaces I clean.   8)

Kev Martin

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Re: A bit of advice from the WFP Pro’s Please New
« Reply #71 on: July 01, 2018, 05:32:19 pm »

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A clever geezer would say sod that and look for more profitable work. Who honestly that is busy would fart around with a trolley at 7am to do three flats?

I agree.  And the potential hassle from an ungrateful customer to boot.  ;D

I picked up a real live palace on Friday.  Originally one of three palaces, but this is the only one left out of the group.  Parts of it are 700 years old.

It's just been through a refurbishment in preparation for posh weddings and hotel use.

I just felt the need to share that. ;D
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