[GAZZA B]

I drove the new Citroen Berlingo yesterday WOW!  what a van 1000 payload and what toys it has. what do you all think to it?

Gazza

[dazmond]

I drove the new Citroen Berlingo yesterday WOW!  what a van 1000 payload and what toys it has. what do you all think to it?

Gazza

never driven one....thats a good payload for a smallish van.....

[Dry Clean]

My 4 year old Dispatch will in the mechanics next week getting the heater blower,central locking and drivers electric window fixed, my first one had similar problems.
The electrics on Citroens are well known for causing problems so I would say the less toys the better, other than that they are a reliable enough van to drive.

[Pete Thompson]

The Citroen Berlingo, Peugeot Expert and Toyota Proace are all the same Van, just badged differently.

I bought the Toyota Proace just over a year ago because Toyota give a 5 year warranty (3 year for the others) and gave me a great deal on the price and threw in a few extras too.

Mine is the Compact version, 1000kg payload (more than enough for my 700ltr system).

Absolutely fantastic van, can’t fault it at all. I was sceptical about the (what I considered) smaller engine, but don’t be put off, it has plenty of power even with a full tank and 3 people in the front. (It has 3 front seats)

I have a 700 litre Pure2o system (ionics budget range) and that is also highly recommended. Worked perfectly every single time, and with the smart charge system the battery is always full.

I had a 400 litre system in a VW Caddy before this, also a great van but I wonder how I got by for so long with just that small system.

[High-Tower]

The Citroen Berlingo, Peugeot Expert and Toyota Proace are all the same Van, just badged differently

You mean the dispatch/expert/pro ace. Berlingo is the ‘smaller’ Citroen van.

[Stoots]

Never had any problem with the engines on these vans I've had an old Berlingo 1.9d, scudo 1.9d, partner 1.6, scudo 1.6 and now a dispatch 2.0. I also had an old Picasso with a 2.0 engine. But what they have all had in common I'd dodgy electrics

I thought my new one was on till the other week when the rear door latch locked itself shut and never opened. Then the central locking went on the back door so I'm down to using the key.

Other than electrics they are great vans, stay away from the 1.6 however they eat turbos the 2.0 is the one.

[dazmond]

The Citroen Berlingo, Peugeot Expert and Toyota Proace are all the same Van, just badged differently.

I bought the Toyota Proace just over a year ago because Toyota give a 5 year warranty (3 year for the others) and gave me a great deal on the price and threw in a few extras too.

Mine is the Compact version, 1000kg payload (more than enough for my 700ltr system).

Absolutely fantastic van, can’t fault it at all. I was sceptical about the (what I considered) smaller engine, but don’t be put off, it has plenty of power even with a full tank and 3 people in the front. (It has 3 front seats)

I have a 700 litre Pure2o system (ionics budget range) and that is also highly recommended. Worked perfectly every single time, and with the smart charge system the battery is always full.

I had a 400 litre system in a VW Caddy before this, also a great van but I wonder how I got by for so long with just that small system.

do you not think you ll be overweight with  a full 700L tank first thing in the morning?seems a bit big for a 1000kg payload van.....

[AuRavelling79]

The Citroen Berlingo, Peugeot Expert and Toyota Proace are all the same Van, just badged differently.

I bought the Toyota Proace just over a year ago because Toyota give a 5 year warranty (3 year for the others) and gave me a great deal on the price and threw in a few extras too.

Mine is the Compact version, 1000kg payload (more than enough for my 700ltr system).

Absolutely fantastic van, can’t fault it at all. I was sceptical about the (what I considered) smaller engine, but don’t be put off, it has plenty of power even with a full tank and 3 people in the front. (It has 3 front seats)

I have a 700 litre Pure2o system (ionics budget range) and that is also highly recommended. Worked perfectly every single time, and with the smart charge system the battery is always full.

I had a 400 litre system in a VW Caddy before this, also a great van but I wonder how I got by for so long with just that small system.

do you not think you ll be overweight with  a full 700L tank first thing in the morning?seems a bit big for a 1000kg payload van.....

" ... it has plenty of power even with a full tank and 3 people in the front. (It has 3 front seats)"

I should say so! 

[deeege]

The Citroen Berlingo, Peugeot Expert and Toyota Proace are all the same Van, just badged differently.

I bought the Toyota Proace just over a year ago because Toyota give a 5 year warranty (3 year for the others) and gave me a great deal on the price and threw in a few extras too.

Mine is the Compact version, 1000kg payload (more than enough for my 700ltr system).

Absolutely fantastic van, can’t fault it at all. I was sceptical about the (what I considered) smaller engine, but don’t be put off, it has plenty of power even with a full tank and 3 people in the front. (It has 3 front seats)

I have a 700 litre Pure2o system (ionics budget range) and that is also highly recommended. Worked perfectly every single time, and with the smart charge system the battery is always full.

I had a 400 litre system in a VW Caddy before this, also a great van but I wonder how I got by for so long with just that small system.

Have you really got a 700 litre tank in a berlingos? I’ve got the same van but with a 450 tank. When full I feel that even though it’s well under its payload I wouldn’t want to have any more weight in it.

[dd]

Agree with Dryclean. The less toys the less there is to go wrong. I have 13 year old dispatch with no frills, not even central locking. Been good so far.

[SB Cleaning]

I wouldn't go near a Citroen or any of the other French rubbish

[Johnny B]

I wouldn't go near a Citroen or any of the other French rubbish

I have a 14 year old Berlingo. Apart from the CD player having a mind of its own and central locking which stopped working recently, everything else works ok and the 1.9 engine will run forever. And there's acres of loadspace and as my trad gear weighs next to nothing, it has a very easy life.

John

[dazmond]

Agree with Dryclean. The less toys the less there is to go wrong. I have 13 year old dispatch with no frills, not even central locking. Been good so far.

no good for me....no heated drivers seat,no air con and no heated windscreen......

[SB Cleaning]

I wouldn't go near a Citroen or any of the other French rubbish

I have a 14 year old Berlingo. Apart from the CD player having a mind of its own and central locking which stopped working recently, everything else works ok and the 1.9 engine will run forever. And there's acres of loadspace and as my trad gear weighs next to nothing, it has a very easy life.

John

Good to hear but you still wouldn't catch me driving one again...mine was the biggest money pit I've ever driven...and most of the people I know have problems..

The French used to make ok motors many moons ago but not these days...cheap for a reason.

[Johnny B]

I wouldn't go near a Citroen or any of the other French rubbish

I have a 14 year old Berlingo. Apart from the CD player having a mind of its own and central locking which stopped working recently, everything else works ok and the 1.9 engine will run forever. And there's acres of loadspace and as my trad gear weighs next to nothing, it has a very easy life.

John

Good to hear but you still wouldn't catch me driving one again...mine was the biggest money pit I've ever driven...and most of the people I know have problems..

The French used to make ok motors many moons ago but not these days...cheap for a reason.

Citroens used to be a nightmare to run and repair due to their complexity (remember the DS).

My Berlingo had some issues when I bought it but since these were sorted it's been a good van.

John.

[GAZZA B]

but do you all think the new one is a good buy ?

[Jonny 87]

The Citroen Berlingo, Peugeot Expert and Toyota Proace are all the same Van, just badged differently.

I bought the Toyota Proace just over a year ago because Toyota give a 5 year warranty (3 year for the others) and gave me a great deal on the price and threw in a few extras too.

Mine is the Compact version, 1000kg payload (more than enough for my 700ltr system).

Absolutely fantastic van, can’t fault it at all. I was sceptical about the (what I considered) smaller engine, but don’t be put off, it has plenty of power even with a full tank and 3 people in the front. (It has 3 front seats)

I have a 700 litre Pure2o system (ionics budget range) and that is also highly recommended. Worked perfectly every single time, and with the smart charge system the battery is always full.

I had a 400 litre system in a VW Caddy before this, also a great van but I wonder how I got by for so long with just that small system.

Sorry to sound like the “payload police” but you honestly may not realise......... your definitely pushing it in that van for a good part of the morning.

1000kg payload

Even being conservative.......

Water and tank cage etc (750kg)
Reels (40kg)
Roof rack? (50kg)
Fuel (50 litres - 50kg)
Anything else inside the van? Tool boxes, shelving step ladders etc,
3 workers ( 240kg)

Total = 1130 kg.

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

but do you all think the new one is a good buy ?

No new vehicle is a good buy.

[dazmond]

The Citroen Berlingo, Peugeot Expert and Toyota Proace are all the same Van, just badged differently.

I bought the Toyota Proace just over a year ago because Toyota give a 5 year warranty (3 year for the others) and gave me a great deal on the price and threw in a few extras too.

Mine is the Compact version, 1000kg payload (more than enough for my 700ltr system).

Absolutely fantastic van, can’t fault it at all. I was sceptical about the (what I considered) smaller engine, but don’t be put off, it has plenty of power even with a full tank and 3 people in the front. (It has 3 front seats)

I have a 700 litre Pure2o system (ionics budget range) and that is also highly recommended. Worked perfectly every single time, and with the smart charge system the battery is always full.

I had a 400 litre system in a VW Caddy before this, also a great van but I wonder how I got by for so long with just that small system.

Sorry to sound like the “payload police” but you honestly may not realise......... your definitely pushing it in that van for a good part of the morning.

1000kg payload

Even being conservative.......

Water and tank cage etc (750kg)
Reels (40kg)
Roof rack? (50kg)
Fuel (50 litres - 50kg)
Anything else inside the van? Tool boxes, shelving step ladders etc,
3 workers ( 240kg)

Total = 1130 kg.

a roof rack doesnt weigh anywhere near 50kg!but i agree he ll be overweight for sure,dont forget leisure batteries weigh a bit plus  trad gear,ladders,toolbox,etc all add weight.....

[zesty]

Agree with Dryclean. The less toys the less there is to go wrong. I have 13 year old dispatch with no frills, not even central locking. Been good so far.

no good for me....no heated drivers seat,no air con and no heated windscreen......
[/quotv

Can’t help yourself daz!

My vans still better than yours. Transit custom for the win. All the goodies and more room.

 

[Johnny B]

Agree with Dryclean. The less toys the less there is to go wrong. I have 13 year old dispatch with no frills, not even central locking. Been good so far.

no good for me....no heated drivers seat,no air con and no heated windscreen......
[/quotv

Can’t help yourself daz!

My vans still better than yours. Transit custom for the win. All the goodies and more room.

 

I love all the oneupmanship we get on here! 😂

 My Berlingo's driver's seat heats up if I sit on it long enough. Never seen a switch though and there's nothing in the manual, so I guess it's automatic (must have been state of the art in 2005).

My aircon system is an open window on a hot day. There's this z shaped thingy that I move in a circular motion that makes the window go up and down according to which way I turn it.

My heated windscreen is the heater blower aimed at the screen. A clean microfibre supplements this clever little innovation.

The steering wheel is round, which I'm slowly getting the hang of as my previous van had tiller steering.

I wonder what they will think of next. Maybe someone will come up with a new way to clean windows using a length of rubber and a cloth.
John

[Pete Thompson]

The Citroen Berlingo, Peugeot Expert and Toyota Proace are all the same Van, just badged differently.

I bought the Toyota Proace just over a year ago because Toyota give a 5 year warranty (3 year for the others) and gave me a great deal on the price and threw in a few extras too.

Mine is the Compact version, 1000kg payload (more than enough for my 700ltr system).

Absolutely fantastic van, can’t fault it at all. I was sceptical about the (what I considered) smaller engine, but don’t be put off, it has plenty of power even with a full tank and 3 people in the front. (It has 3 front seats)

I have a 700 litre Pure2o system (ionics budget range) and that is also highly recommended. Worked perfectly every single time, and with the smart charge system the battery is always full.

I had a 400 litre system in a VW Caddy before this, also a great van but I wonder how I got by for so long with just that small system.

Sorry to sound like the “payload police” but you honestly may not realise......... your definitely pushing it in that van for a good part of the morning.

1000kg payload

Even being conservative.......

Water and tank cage etc (750kg)
Reels (40kg)
Roof rack? (50kg)
Fuel (50 litres - 50kg)
Anything else inside the van? Tool boxes, shelving step ladders etc,
3 workers ( 240kg)

Total = 1130 kg.

Ha ha I don’t mind, you police away!

The actual payload is in fact 1,100 kg, but the payload weight quoted everywhere (except in the specification list in the actual brochure) is just 1,000kg. I asked the salesman about that, and he said that new advertising rules mean they have to advertise the payload weight AFTER allowing for driver and fuel, which is generally 100kg.

My brochure clearly lists the payload weight in the spec list as 1,100 kg, but the newer brochure version does not have the payload listed at all in the specifications at the back.

But you can see what I mean here in the peugeot expert (exact same van) specs on page 6-7:
https://media.peugeot.co.uk/file/31/4/expert-mpc.304314.pdf
The description of the “compact” version says 1,000kg, but in the payload column it is stated as 1,100kg. EU rules apparently, I suppose it makes sense.

As well as that, my tank dimensions are 700 litres, but the float switch that sits inside the tank, so the top bit doesn’t get filled, that accounts for a few litres or so.

I never drive with 3 people by the way, I just did it once with the mrs’ and her sister to see how it handled, and I never fill the fuel more than 1/3rd just for economy reasons.

Don’t have a roof rack, (not even a solid lead 50kg one) or ladders.

So, all in all, no I don’t think I’m over the payload weight!

[dd]

but do you all think the new one is a good buy ?

No new vehicle is a good buy.

There are often good deals on new or pre-registered vans. I was going to buy a 1 or 2 year old van but it was not a lot more to buy brand new, so I bought a heavily discounted new van.