[GAZZA B]

Who is calming the next grant in August?

I have just lost two more jobs today from Covid, but can still get by, will lose some more I am sure of it.

what would you do?

Gazza

[Stoots]

What's the penalty if its deemed that you shouldn't have claimed it?

I don't know because I'm not eligible but what I would have done is claim both the grants and stick it in savings and probably hold onto it for a couple of years incase they try to make you pay it back.

Are you not too late anyway?

Thought the deadline was a couple of days ago?  Not sure though..

[Shrek]

Yeah I’m claiming 3 months pay because I lost 2 £10 bungalows also

😂

Anyway , the people that should be claiming are the beauticians , tattooists etc who actually haven’t been able to work. It’s not worth claiming as they claim back 100% of it if you did not need it and are back to work.

[zesty]

I’ve spoken to a few self employed people, one joiner, and two window cleaners, none of them have lost much work, if any.

All of them are claiming.

I’m in two minds as things are coming back for me. Having said that, I was still waiting on large commercial jobs to come back beginning  of this month. I’m still waiting for two more to come back.

So on that basis, I think it’s perfectly exceptable to claim. It’s not like they are £50 or even £100 jobs. They’re both north of £300.

I suppose you need to look at your projected turnover for this year.  if It’s way off what you expected. Claim. If you’ve lost genuine regular jobs due to the lockdown. Claim.

[Smudger]

No one can really advise you on claiming the grant or not - if you have been effected and you feel you require the grant then claim it


my understanding is you can't claim for the second round until 14th August

Darran

[johnwillan]

Who is calming the next grant in August?

I have just lost two more jobs today from Covid, but can still get by, will lose some more I am sure of it.

what would you do?

Gazza

Hi Gazza

The question asked for the claim is: 'Have you been adversely affected" Yes or No? It's a simple question, there is no question of degree, if you lost £10 or £10 million regardless of new business gained within the period the answer would still be yes.

Furlough and SESS is simply bottom up Quantative Easing the same action as taken in 2008 but finance from the ground up rather than top (think Banks) down.

HTH

John

[p1w1]

Personally i would wait till the end of the second grant claim deadline and then decide if I was adversely affected enough to claim. The first one was a simpler decision to make at the beginning as it started a couple of months after the lockdown and many people were affected as they simply couldn't work for various reasons, now you/they can and many are back to normal.

[Soupy]

I'm not eligible.

You should ALL claim it.

[Richard Groves]

Does it not work the same as the first ? - you will be notified if eligible and advised as to a date you can submit your claim from  ?
"don't contact us, we'll contact you "

[dazmond]

im over £2k up on this time last year so no i wont be claiming.....ive picked up 14 new jobs in the last few months through walk ups and recommendations (with only 2 cancellations throughout lockdown).....

[CleanClear]

Who is calming the next grant in August?

I have just lost two more jobs today from Covid, but can still get by, will lose some more I am sure of it.

what would you do?

Gazza

Hi Gazza

The question asked for the claim is: 'Have you been adversely affected" Yes or No? It's a simple question, there is no question of degree, if you lost £10 or £10 million regardless of new business gained within the period the answer would still be yes.

Furlough and SESS is simply bottom up Quantative Easing the same action as taken in 2008 but finance from the ground up rather than top (think Banks) down.

HTH

John

There is a question of degree as to how you have been affected. It's "adversely". Most people will of been affected.

[deeege]

I’m not eligible so won’t be claiming obviously.

If I could claim, I would. I’ve lost roughly £5k in turnover since late March due to the virus, although all work that was on hold  has now returned apart from one £190 Monthly clean.

Have taken on an addition £200 of monthly domestic work within the last month and over £500 monthly commercial work within the last few weeks so very happy with the way things are going so far. Long term who knows.

[johnwillan]

Who is calming the next grant in August?

I have just lost two more jobs today from Covid, but can still get by, will lose some more I am sure of it.

what would you do?

Gazza

Hi Gazza

The question asked for the claim is: 'Have you been adversely affected" Yes or No? It's a simple question, there is no question of degree, if you lost £10 or £10 million regardless of new business gained within the period the answer would still be yes.

Furlough and SESS is simply bottom up Quantative Easing the same action as taken in 2008 but finance from the ground up rather than top (think Banks) down.

HTH

John

There is a question of degree as to how you have been affected. It's "adversely". Most people will of been affected.

Hi CleanClear

I disagree regarding 'degree' as the question asked is "have you been adversely affected"? Not by how much.

Adversely:  "in a way that prevents success or development; harmfully or unfavourably"

If you have lost jobs as a direct consequence of Covid regardless of new ones gained you have been adverlsy affected and therefore have a right to claim.

As stated earlier I believe this to be quantitive easing, they actually want you to take it, however they don't want to see fraud, this is clearly not fraud.


John

[Spruce]

Who is calming the next grant in August?

I have just lost two more jobs today from Covid, but can still get by, will lose some more I am sure of it.

what would you do?

Gazza

Hi Gazza

The question asked for the claim is: 'Have you been adversely affected" Yes or No? It's a simple question, there is no question of degree, if you lost £10 or £10 million regardless of new business gained within the period the answer would still be yes.

Furlough and SESS is simply bottom up Quantative Easing the same action as taken in 2008 but finance from the ground up rather than top (think Banks) down.

HTH

John

There is a question of degree as to how you have been affected. It's "adversely". Most people will of been affected.

^^^^^

In the words of Martin Lewis; "You are asked to make a statement confirming you have been adversely affected. If you can put your hand on your heart and tick the box that you have been self isolating, ill or caring for someone and you couldn't work then claim it."

He says there are 800,000 self employed who were legible to claim but who  didn't claim.  I can't believe all these didn't know about the scheme. I wonder if some have been working cash in hand and decided that claiming would leave them open to investigation.

If your turnover this year went up by the same amount you got from the compensation scheme then the Receiver could justify an investigation. I'm not saying it would, but there is a possibility.

My turnover for the original lock-down dropped because I was self isolating and didn't work. So I was justified in making a claim. Since the return to work my monthly turnover is slightly better than last year as I'm trying to get through my residential customers. We have lost all but 2 of our commercial work, but financially, we haven't been adversely affected since we started back.
My son is still at home looking after the grandchildren. He hasn't worked except on Saturdays. I've also been trying to clean his customer's as well, so his turnover is similar to what his was last year these last 2 months of May and June. Yes, he has been adversely affected as he hasn't been able to work weekdays, but financially he hasn't been adversely affected.


 

[Phil J]

If it's on offer you'd be silly not to take it. Who knows what's around the corner, we could all be back in lockdown come winter.

[combat1]

Huh! Didn’t get the first one!
Bought the van, cash one year and installed system the next, cash
Also have high mileage so net profit lower than my £1k a month pensions.
Because of Covid I have to cover childcare in the morning and get to work around 2pm.
So have definitely suffered, cannot cover my whole round.
No help from Gov.
Be ok in September when they go back to school.
Have to say it’s been great having time with my son.

[Spruce]

Who is calming the next grant in August?

I have just lost two more jobs today from Covid, but can still get by, will lose some more I am sure of it.

what would you do?

Gazza

Hi Gazza

The question asked for the claim is: 'Have you been adversely affected" Yes or No? It's a simple question, there is no question of degree, if you lost £10 or £10 million regardless of new business gained within the period the answer would still be yes.

Furlough and SESS is simply bottom up Quantative Easing the same action as taken in 2008 but finance from the ground up rather than top (think Banks) down.

HTH

John

There is a question of degree as to how you have been affected. It's "adversely". Most people will of been affected.

Hi CleanClear

I disagree regarding 'degree' as the question asked is "have you been adversely affected"? Not by how much.

Adversely:  "in a way that prevents success or development; harmfully or unfavourably"

If you have lost jobs as a direct consequence of Covid regardless of new ones gained you have been adverlsy affected and therefore have a right to claim.

As stated earlier I believe this to be quantitive easing, they actually want you to take it, however they don't want to see fraud, this is clearly not fraud.


John

There is a difference in meaning between
" has your income been affected by Covid19?" and "has your income been adversely effected by Covid19?"

Adversely is a measure of degree.

[Spruce]

Huh! Didn’t get the first one!
Bought the van, cash one year and installed system the next, cash
Also have high mileage so net profit lower than my £1k a month pensions.
Because of Covid I have to cover childcare in the morning and get to work around 2pm.
So have definitely suffered, cannot cover my whole round.
No help from Gov.
Be ok in September when they go back to school.
Have to say it’s been great having time with my son.

I got 2 years average over 3 years as I also wrote my van off against tax in the middle year.  Even if I didn't get anything we would have managed with a bit of pension coming in and the wife's earnings, so I can't complain at all. I'm actually really grateful.

[NWH]

You don’t know if you’ll lose work yet let’s be honest you won’t know until the end of the year or towards the end,you need to look ahead a bit and think to yourself will or may I lose work from say November onwards I think then you would know more so it’s a gamble, either way you look at it each and every one of us will be paying it back in some form or another so don’t think you are doing anyone any favours.

[Spruce]

If it's on offer you'd be silly not to take it. Who knows what's around the corner, we could all be back in lockdown come winter.

Its been said that the Nightingale Hospitals were built for the second wave. So you could well be right. Its effecting the southern hemisphere countries in their winter now; South Africa and  Australia for example. But the claim isn't a saving account for the future. Its for whats happening now.