Mick Kent

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Re: one employee in van daily expectation
« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2014, 09:21:45 pm »
lol

+1

You have lost me on this one, I'm planning to employ in the near future are you telling me I should expect
to take someone on who couldn't care less because its not their baby.
Are you telling me they should wattle along at their leisure knocking out 10 to 15 properties while I knock out 20 ?
Are you telling me if they are doing 50% of the work then they should be getting 50% of the profits ?
When I was an employee my job paid my bills so it was in my interest also that the company succeeded it didn't matter
what the boss was earning.




i think the point is if its your business then your going to care about it a lot more and will want it to really exceed then someone who is getting paid £8-9 an hour like you said. you need to give an employee some initiative to want to work harder for you its plain simple window cleaning (boring and mundane) nothing more so if you expect someone to slog there guts out rain, snow or shine for an hourly wage (£8-9) then i reckon your going to go through a few people a year.

£8 or £9 was a figure from Window Lickers I was trying to work out a wage going by my own output (the 20 properties was only
used as an example)
What sort of output would Poleking and yourself expect from an employee.
Cheers.

what do you mean 'output'?


Lets say you could clean 20 £15 properties in a day not killing yourself what would you expect from your employee
as a realistic target ?
Cheers.

A realistic expectation, imo, would be ¾ of what you could earn yourself. +/- 10%
Are you emoying a 60 pluser??
Get real mate its window cleaning and a target is a target. I clean 25-35 a day and so does my other van! I usualy do less 1, because im the boss and 2 he is much fitter than me.
If someone wants the job to provide for there family or whatever then they will work hard to do so to keep there job so they can pay there bills and support there family.

PoleKing

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Re: one employee in van daily expectation
« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2014, 09:24:28 pm »
lol

+1

You have lost me on this one, I'm planning to employ in the near future are you telling me I should expect
to take someone on who couldn't care less because its not their baby.
Are you telling me they should wattle along at their leisure knocking out 10 to 15 properties while I knock out 20 ?
Are you telling me if they are doing 50% of the work then they should be getting 50% of the profits ?
When I was an employee my job paid my bills so it was in my interest also that the company succeeded it didn't matter
what the boss was earning.




i think the point is if its your business then your going to care about it a lot more and will want it to really exceed then someone who is getting paid £8-9 an hour like you said. you need to give an employee some initiative to want to work harder for you its plain simple window cleaning (boring and mundane) nothing more so if you expect someone to slog there guts out rain, snow or shine for an hourly wage (£8-9) then i reckon your going to go through a few people a year.

£8 or £9 was a figure from Window Lickers I was trying to work out a wage going by my own output (the 20 properties was only
used as an example)
What sort of output would Poleking and yourself expect from an employee.
Cheers.

what do you mean 'output'?


Lets say you could clean 20 £15 properties in a day not killing yourself what would you expect from your employee
as a realistic target ?
Cheers.

A realistic expectation, imo, would be ¾ of what you could earn yourself. +/- 10%
Are you emoying a 60 pluser??
Get real mate its window cleaning and a target is a target. I clean 25-35 a day and so does my other van! I usualy do less 1, because im the boss and 2 he is much fitter than me.
If someone wants the job to provide for there family or whatever then they will work hard to do so to keep there job so they can pay there bills and support there family.

No mate.
If you've found someone who works like that-fair play to you.
They're rare though.
Realistically, what I've posted is what i think the majority will find. There will be exceptions.
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It's just the internet. Try not to worry.

G Griffin

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Re: one employee in van daily expectation
« Reply #42 on: August 19, 2014, 09:25:40 pm »
Sometimes less is more.
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Window Lickers

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Re: one employee in van daily expectation
« Reply #43 on: August 19, 2014, 09:26:37 pm »
if they work that well they'll be the competition before the end of the year.
Liberace's ex looking to meet well built men for cottaging meets.

Mick Kent

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Re: one employee in van daily expectation
« Reply #44 on: August 19, 2014, 09:38:53 pm »
If they end up competition then they end up competition! Thats life however it isnt that easy to just become competition!! They need a round first and whilst they work for me they wont have time to build a round and even if they do Ill just employ someone else who wants a job.
All i know is that i wouldnt employ no loser who cant hack a days work that he is being paid for! I havnt found 1 yet who cant clean the same days work as me but as said i dont look for old or unfit guys i try and find good ones.

Frankybadboy

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Re: one employee in van daily expectation
« Reply #45 on: August 19, 2014, 09:39:29 pm »
and there was me thinking you was all one man bands ;D ;D ;D ;D

Window Lickers

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Re: one employee in van daily expectation
« Reply #46 on: August 19, 2014, 09:46:27 pm »
If they end up competition then they end up competition! Thats life however it isnt that easy to just become competition!! They need a round first and whilst they work for me they wont have time to build a round and even if they do Ill just employ someone else who wants a job.
All i know is that i wouldnt employ no loser who cant hack a days work that he is being paid for! I havnt found 1 yet who cant clean the same days work as me but as said i dont look for old or unfit guys i try and find good ones.


Mick if theyre as good as you say constructing their own round will be a piece of cake to them.
Liberace's ex looking to meet well built men for cottaging meets.

Window Lickers

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Re: one employee in van daily expectation
« Reply #47 on: August 19, 2014, 09:46:44 pm »
and there was me thinking you was all one man bands ;D ;D ;D ;D

 ;D  ;D  ;D
Liberace's ex looking to meet well built men for cottaging meets.

G Griffin

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Re: one employee in van daily expectation
« Reply #48 on: August 19, 2014, 09:56:24 pm »
i dont look for old or unfit guys i try and find good ones.
Try and stay on topic.
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Mick Kent

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Re: one employee in van daily expectation
« Reply #49 on: August 19, 2014, 10:01:30 pm »
 ;D

richywilts

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Re: one employee in van daily expectation
« Reply #50 on: August 19, 2014, 10:02:25 pm »
don kee was that message aimed at me or sean k ive got plenty of work to do 1700 a week i think

Keep your knickers on tiger, i actually think your daily targets in your original post are about right mate

i wasnt having a go haha i was confused didnt know who it was aimed at
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AuRavelling79

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Re: one employee in van daily expectation
« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2014, 10:33:09 pm »
£200 on a dry day is fine on my bread and butter work.
It's a game of three halves!

richywilts

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Re: one employee in van daily expectation
« Reply #52 on: August 19, 2014, 11:29:38 pm »
yes 200 is acheiveable i think but im trying to work shorter hours myself this time round and i really dont want the stress of needing employees hitting large figures id just like to be done with my day in work at say 4-4.30pm
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

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www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

Clever Forum Name

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Re: one employee in van daily expectation
« Reply #53 on: August 20, 2014, 06:47:43 am »
3 pages in and no £500 heroes using a Harris pole and a Volvo estate. I am
Disappoint.

groundhog

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Re: one employee in van daily expectation
« Reply #54 on: August 20, 2014, 07:49:26 am »
3 pages in and no £500 heroes using a Harris pole and a Volvo estate. I am
Disappoint.
I've done that working out of a ford focus with a 250ltr tank.

AuRavelling79

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Re: one employee in van daily expectation
« Reply #55 on: August 20, 2014, 08:11:56 am »
3 pages in and no £500 heroes using a Harris pole and a Volvo estate. I am
Disappoint.
I've done that working out of a ford focus with a 250ltr tank.

I've done that out of a Reliant Robin with a backpack.
It's a game of three halves!

Ian101

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Re: one employee in van daily expectation
« Reply #56 on: August 20, 2014, 08:35:51 am »
My advice is to look at it weekly.

however too many variables to put a value on it.

if you had 200 houses all on 1 road at £10 a pop then £2000 a week is achievable ......... if you have 200 houses spread over a 5 mile radius then £2000 a week wont happen.

only you know your work and what is possible

if I were you I would agree a weekly target with the employee and tell him if it takes 4 days then fine if it takes 6 days then he has got to work a Saturday ........ assuming its a fair target ,,,, like I say only you will know that

but Richy ................................................ you know all this already  ;)

groundhog

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Re: one employee in van daily expectation
« Reply #57 on: August 20, 2014, 08:43:22 am »
3 pages in and no £500 heroes using a Harris pole and a Volvo estate. I am
Disappoint.
I've done that working out of a ford focus with a 250ltr tank.
Show off!! Only difference is, I wasn't joking! I really have done it, and with my Harris pole too! :)
I've done that out of a Reliant Robin with a backpack.

Soupy

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Re: one employee in van daily expectation
« Reply #58 on: August 20, 2014, 11:20:11 am »
I wouldnt work as hard or as dedicated or as conscientiously as someone who had more invested in it.

You wouldn't but others do.

I couldn't keep up with anybody I employ. I'm old, fat and slow though.
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Window Lickers

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Re: one employee in van daily expectation
« Reply #59 on: August 20, 2014, 01:25:05 pm »
I wouldnt work as hard or as dedicated or as conscientiously as someone who had more invested in it.

You wouldn't but others do.

I couldn't keep up with anybody I employ. I'm old, fat and slow though.

Not a very good example really then 'ay fatty  ;D
Liberace's ex looking to meet well built men for cottaging meets.