[P @ F]

First of production is ready to fit , it’s been a long road to get to the finished product but it’s been worth it .
We have even upped the game by chunking up the materials and doing it all in polished stainless for all you posh window cleaners 

Will be doing another video to give a better insight into the system shortly .



https://youtu.be/xKDuBe9adDw

[P @ F]

John , if you are seeing this then this is the one for you 

[C.C.S.]

hi. where can we get more info about it ? can this easily be installed by myself ?
I run 2 man van with electric reels

[SB Cleaning]

Look forward to the video

[P @ F]

hi. where can we get more info about it ? can this easily be installed by myself ?
I run 2 man van with electric reels

More info on “ Heater price is here “ thread 
As it’s only a 5 Kw heater it will only run 1 man , unless you fit an additional small tank of say 50 or 100 litres
Easy to fit system !

[TomCrowther]

I am interested in how this pans out. It will need to be completely idiot proof if I am going to get one.

[P @ F]

Nothing is 100% idiot proof   
But this is as easy as it gets !

[LBWCS]

will it require a separate leisure battery?
Can I take a shower with it while I work? 

[Phil J]

Well done P&F!!

[P @ F]

will it require a separate leisure battery?
Can I take a shower with it while I work? 

Yes you can shower , and power needs are pretty minimal , your pump will need to run constantly all day as will the heater , at full power and say 2.5L per minute you would be looking at 6 Amps per hour tops , I do 6 hour days and use between 30 to 35 Amps a day
I use a 105 amp numax that gets charged every night

[P @ F]

Well done P&F!!

Thank you kind sir 

[SB Cleaning]

will it require a separate leisure battery?
Can I take a shower with it while I work? 

Yes you can shower , and power needs are pretty minimal , your pump will need to run constantly all day as will the heater , at full power and say 2.5L per minute you would be looking at 6 Amps per hour tops , I do 6 hour days and use between 30 to 35 Amps a day
I use a 105 amp numax that gets charged every night

when you say the pump needs to run constantly does that mean a univalves a no go?

[P @ F]

Univalve is usable , when you shut flow off the pressure in the system builds to about 55 psi , then a pressure relief valve activates and sends the hot water back to tank , no heat is wasted as such , over the course of the day the remaining tank water gets hotter and hotter meaning you can throttle the heater back to hover at your chosen temp

[NWH]

Nice bit of stainless I’d get another welder though.

[P @ F]

Nice bit of stainless I’d get another welder though.

You really are priceless Nigel 
If it had a Grippa badge on it no doubt it would be the best thing since hot water 

[P @ F]

I am however going to rise above it 

[NWH]

Mig welding is very difficult it’s an art,you can see how hard it can be.

[P @ F]

It’s not actually mig , it’s tig which is harder again by a long shot !
My fabricator was very much involved in one of the teams that run those huge powerboats before leaving to launch his own ventures Longlife exhausts and Project stainless .
So I don’t think I need to worry about his abilities !

[Status Check]

Looks great. Does the kit come with the return to tank relief valve?

[P @ F]

Looks great. Does the kit come with the return to tank relief valve?

Yes , everything you need included ,

[JandS]

Making it idiot proof only leads to better idiots.

[Slacky]

Have I missed it but what are these going to be selling for?

[P @ F]

Have I missed it but what are these going to be selling for?

£850 plus delivery , not sure how much that is yet until I have to box one up , it might even be cheaper on a half pallet?

With enough info to me before hand I will fit them free if people want to travel to Plymouth 

[Jonny 87]

Well done P@F!

The stainless really looks the job.

This could be a winner for you. I do think though that the £850 plus delivery should be an introductory price. Almost seems too cheap for all the work you’ve put in.

Either way though it looks great. Can’t wait to see them in action in peoples vans.

[SB Cleaning]

When are they ready mate?

Its hell of a drive but I will come down and get one fitted 

[P @ F]

When are they ready mate?

Its hell of a drive but I will come down and get one fitted 

They are ready to order now , as they are built to order it’s got to be up front payment until I can get a few built for stock , not ideal but the fabricator needs paying before he puts torch to metal 

[Michael Peterson]

do these need plumbed in to the vehicle tank or can your just put them straight in ?

[P @ F]

do these need plumbed in to the vehicle tank or can your just put them straight in ?

They can be fitted straight in as you get a separate 10L fuel tank with it
I should be doing a vid today at some point , stay tuned !

[wayne m]

This sounds like a great product and amazing prize compared to other hot systems on the market and hope this works out for you mate, I’m definitely interested and will be waiting for the video upload from you. Also it’s only 2.5 hour drive to you and may even make a weekend of if down at the coast.

[Don Kee]

Look forward to the video as well.

We drive down to Looe once a year, so I could be tempted...

[P @ F]

https://youtu.be/xKDuBe9adDw

Any Q’s , fire away 

[Stoots]

Looks great.

I'm tempted myself, maybe one day I will get one.

[STEVE-UK]

Looks good, does the frame have a casing or left open as in video

I think this has been asked before... can it be left on over night to stop system for freezing

[P @ F]

Looks good, does the frame have a casing or left open as in video

I think this has been asked before... can it be left on over night to stop system for freezing

It comes as an open frame due to being a retrofit item , you can box it in once fitted up

You could leave it on low overnight yes , I just run mine for a couple of hours at about 75% heat before bed , this usually gives enough heat in the tank to act as a big radiator

[nathankaye]

Looks the business.  If i didnt have all the hiccups with the van in november n december and some other family business. I would be coming up very soon to pick one up.
Yet its gonna be towards next winter now for me, but definitely ordering one as soon as im able. Even if you amend the price for all the work thats gone into that 👍

looks very pro and efficient.  Easily affordable to rum and no messing about with extension wires nor forgetting to turn my immersion on etc.

[Simon Trapani]

Looks & sounds great. I wish you every success P@F.

[zesty]

Great video mate, it looks good!

Did you manage to test 3mm jets?

I run a ‘tubeless’ setup, no rectus 21 or the like, so that’s something I’d also need to change in order for it to flow back to tank.

[P @ F]

Great video mate, it looks good!

Did you manage to test 3mm jets?

I run a ‘tubeless’ setup, no rectus 21 or the like, so that’s something I’d also need to change in order for it to flow back to tank.

Totally forgot to test the jets !
What is at the end of your hose reel then ?

[SB Cleaning]

Can you give me a ring mate

07950 481950

Shaun

[zesty]

Great video mate, it looks good!

Did you manage to test 3mm jets?

I run a ‘tubeless’ setup, no rectus 21 or the like, so that’s something I’d also need to change in order for it to flow back to tank.

Totally forgot to test the jets !
What is at the end of your hose reel then ?

8mm minibore > reducer barb > 40 feet of 5.5mm gardiner green pole hose > John guest straight push fit.

Then I just have a small amount of pole hose sticking out the end of the pole, I then connect that to the John guest.

It means I can change/add sections easy, and also means after cleaning a house, I can undo the pole from the hose, meaning I can reel the whole lot in on the hose reel.

I’ll send you a vid via text tomorrow mate! Just so it makes sense.

But ultimately, I don’t use any flow control device/rectus 21, as I have the one shot. So id need to change that and add something in so it cycles back to the tank!

[Lee Pryor]

Very impressive indeed. Hat off to your efforts. Looks very good and I am sure you will sell many!

[david mark]

Try and apply for a patent ASAP your on to marking a good bit of money don't let the big boys steel your idea

[P @ F]

Try and apply for a patent ASAP your on to marking a good bit of money don't let the big boys steel your idea

Patent would not be issued I don’t think as it’s nothing new , I recall that only 1 in 20 get given and it’s pricey to do .
I would sell the idea and specs though 

[p1w1]

This is really impressive mate, your a British version of HMAN  , I wish you well with it.  I bet you're hoping for snow and ice to blanket the country lol

[P @ F]

Thanks guys for all the nice words so far , much appreciated 

[Lee Pryor]

How about another video showing it all fitted and running with temp at brush etc...

[Michael Peterson]

yeah in a van video, easy for me to understand :-)

[P @ F]

How about another video showing it all fitted and running with temp at brush etc...

This is the last of the prototypes which is in my van  at the moment

https://youtu.be/IKwOvQOz2B8

[Bungle]

Very impressive indeed. Hat off to your efforts. Looks very good and I am sure you will sell many!

Any news on your hot water system yet @Lee Prior?

[Stoots]

This is really impressive mate, your a British version of HMAN  , I wish you well with it.  I bet you're hoping for snow and ice to blanket the country lol

HMAN will be gutted with this  hes been piddling around for 20 years with all sorts of crap ideas and this comes along...an actual invention.

[Frankybadboy]

great work


love the cable ties 

[windowswashed]

Very impressive.

I use to run a twin inlet and outlet on a stainless calorifier from radiator so it recycled through twice (same principal as yours). Use to recycle excess water through WFP tank when pole hose shut off like yourself so pump continuously  circulating water until shut off on flow controller.
Used a longer length of brass hose after the pressure release valve as advised for safety reasons and used a metal 10litre diesel tank instead of a plastic tank as they  are less likely to lose vapour gases or expand in the summer months if in direct sunlight, less chance of tank exploding.
Use to get temperatures above 100 degrees so use to turn it off by midday tops.

Well done

[windowswashed]

One thing you could do to make water hotter is to fit fins inside the heating unit like I did to heat the unit up quicker.

[dazmond]

great work


love the cable ties 

Grippatank use cable ties.........just saying......😜

[dazmond]

Its sounds really loud richy!I'm sure mines not that loud.....it might just be because your videoing it on a phone?

Looks too much faffing about for me.....

I'd rather pay for a professional install myself but well done mate.you should be proud of yourself!

[NWH]

What are you going to patent on that then.

[P @ F]

What are you going to patent on that then.

Nothing to patent , it’s all been done one way or another

[P @ F]

great work


love the cable ties 

They don’t really need to be there to be honest !

[P @ F]

Very impressive.

I use to run a twin inlet and outlet on a stainless calorifier from radiator so it recycled through twice (same principal as yours). Use to recycle excess water through WFP tank when pole hose shut off like yourself so pump continuously  circulating water until shut off on flow controller.
Used a longer length of brass hose after the pressure release valve as advised for safety reasons and used a metal 10litre diesel tank instead of a plastic tank as they  are less likely to lose vapour gases or expand in the summer months if in direct sunlight, less chance of tank exploding.
Use to get temperatures above 100 degrees so use to turn it off by midday tops.

Well done

Tell me more about this twin in/out setup WW , how does that work once under pressure ?

[Splash & dash]

How about another video showing it all fitted and running with temp at brush etc...

What’s happening with the hot system you were talking about ??

[STEVE-UK]

Looks good, does the frame have a casing or left open as in video

I think this has been asked before... can it be left on over night to stop system for freezing

It comes as an open frame due to being a retrofit item , you can box it in once fitted up

You could leave it on low overnight yes , I just run mine for a couple of hours at about 75% heat before bed , this usually gives enough heat in the tank to act as a big radiator

Ok great, can the system turn itself off automatically after 2 hours?

ideally we need a system that can be set on defrost setting, is this an option with this system?

Our employees take the vans home, so need to set it and leave overnight

[P @ F]

They don’t come with a frost stat setup like a Grippa or the like , but they do have a timer you can set to come on and off overnight , however in order to use this the water pump would have to be left on all night as the heater cannot turn the water pump on by itself !
This is why I just do it manually  2 hours before bed as and when I see a cold snap coming , again this is dependant if you can rely on the workers remembering to turn them off !

[NWH]

I might buy 1 they look good how much again all in

[Tristan R Clean]

Hi P&F

Well done for persevering with this project.
I have a few ?s

I run as a single operator .
I run a pump on full bore ( no varistream )
I use between 500 and 700ltrs a day.
What sort of temperatures would I expect at the brush head with your system?

Tris

[NWH]

At a guess I would say in the region of 35-45 degrees if you recirculate back to tank you will think you are getting very hot water but it’s only because the water in the reel is very hot,after about a few minutes it’ll cool back down.
If I do this with my diesel heater it get proper hot to hot to use tbh this time of the year.

[P @ F]

I might buy 1 they look good how much again all in

 

[P @ F]

Hi P&F

Well done for persevering with this project.
I have a few ?s

I run as a single operator .
I run a pump on full bore ( no varistream )
I use between 500 and 700ltrs a day.
What sort of temperatures would I expect at the brush head with your system?

Tris

Hi Tris , it’s hard to say , if you tell me what pump , bore and length of hose to use as well as what jets you use I can do a mock up and see , I may even know roughly already !

[dazmond]

I might buy 1 they look good how much again all in

why?you ve got a grippa system.....and you dont employ!

[P @ F]

I might buy 1 they look good how much again all in

why?you ve got a grippa system.....and you dont employ!

Exactly ...... I think Nigel is tempting me to advertise , not just inform 

[Tristan R Clean]

Hi P@F
This is what I use.

Grippatank
 HydroHeat™ 100m Reinforced Hose 6mm ID

Thanks
Tris

[p1w1]

Most importantly,  will this melt concrete?

[NWH]

I might buy 1 they look good how much again all in

why?you ve got a grippa system.....and you dont employ!

Don’t I

[Splash & dash]

Most importantly,  will this melt concrete?

Only if Nathan is using it 😂😂😂

[Frankybadboy]

.

I'd rather pay for a professional install myself but well done mate.you should be proud of yourself!

its a pity you didnt think like that when you had your tank fitted 

[P @ F]

Well the first system got fitted today for John of See Throo Southampton , went very well , no pics yet as John wants to do a few little bits first !
Cracking bloke as when we were packing up he told me he had a few bits I might want to make use of as I fitted free ...
Only went and gave me a box of carbon filters and an Xtreme 25 with loads of life left in it   
Cheers John you diamond

[nathankaye]

On that note, if you post these out, do we get a bag of sweets, a hat or is it a pen 

[P @ F]

On that note, if you post these out, do we get a bag of sweets, a hat or is it a pen 

The first 13 get a carbon filter 

[P @ F]

That’s one happy