[concept]

Looking for a second pressure washer set up, for domestic and commercial work, but mainly commercial as our domestic set up is fine.

We have an L200 which we use for this work, but the bed is reasonably small, so no room for bowsers, wondered if it's worth buying a bowser to tow, or a bowser with machine attached?

Current machine is 15LPM, which works fine, don't think I want to jump into a monster machine just yet.

Would like hot, but not essential. After using hot on a recent job, it was a pleasure to use, and seemed to work quicker than our cold.

Budget wise, open to ideas, don't want to waste money on something that's not up to commercial work, but don't want to overkill it.

So I guess, something middle of the road!

[chris scott]

The machines attached to Browsers are "generally " only small industrial units bolted down...so nothing to gain in performance. Hire/buy a bowser.
There are industrial pumps available    250bar @ 21lpm which is plenty... if you need to put more water on the floor buy 2!
think they are around £560 all in with a gearbox.

Only down side is they require 14hp..   "13hp" Honda gx390 are less than 12hp !!!  so you would need diesel (which makes economic sense but i think you would be into twin cylinders so you lose mobility) ) or briggs/kohler petrol  .

So you could in theory build a 250 bar 21 lpm mobile unit brand new for £1200 ...£1000 if you can get the vat back !(petrol or even less with loncin)!

Keep the machines mobile they are more versatile this way ...you could build a frame on the van to "lock" them down so you have "van mounted" system also

Hot box or two joined together for steam.

[G O Cleaning]

The machines attached to Browsers are "generally " only small industrial units bolted down...so nothing to gain in performance. Hire/buy a bowser.
There are industrial pumps available  interpump  250bar @ 21lpm which is plenty... if you need to put more water on the floor buy 2!
 I think they are around £560 all in with a gearbox. Only down side is they require 14hp..gx390 are around 12hp so you would need diesel (which makes economic sense but i think you would be into twin cylinders so you lose mobility) ) or briggs/kohler petrol  .So you could in theory build a 250 bar 21 lpm mobile unit brand new for £1300 (petrol or even less with loncin)!

Keep the machines mobile they are more versatile this way ...you could build a frame on the van to "lock" them down so you have "van mounted" system also

Hot box or two joined together for steam.

Mobile ? He has a L200   

[concept]

Thanks again Chris.

We finally finished that job, didn't try what we discussed, too much messing about as it was, with staff sickness, weather, obstructions etc etc, so was concentrating on progress rather than experiments. Got another few similar jobs this month, so might try it then.

Think buying a bowser to lug along is looking simpler.

[concept]

The machines attached to Browsers are "generally " only small industrial units bolted down...so nothing to gain in performance. Hire/buy a bowser.
There are industrial pumps available  interpump  250bar @ 21lpm which is plenty... if you need to put more water on the floor buy 2!
 I think they are around £560 all in with a gearbox. Only down side is they require 14hp..gx390 are around 12hp so you would need diesel (which makes economic sense but i think you would be into twin cylinders so you lose mobility) ) or briggs/kohler petrol  .So you could in theory build a 250 bar 21 lpm mobile unit brand new for £1300 (petrol or even less with loncin)!

Keep the machines mobile they are more versatile this way ...you could build a frame on the van to "lock" them down so you have "van mounted" system also

Hot box or two joined together for steam.

Mobile ? He has a L200   

Trust me, that beast goes ANYWHERE.

Did mail your guy Mike, but guess they are still on Christmas break.

[chris scott]

The machines attached to Browsers are "generally " only small industrial units bolted down...so nothing to gain in performance. Hire/buy a bowser.
There are industrial pumps available  interpump  250bar @ 21lpm which is plenty... if you need to put more water on the floor buy 2!
 I think they are around £560 all in with a gearbox. Only down side is they require 14hp..gx390 are around 12hp so you would need diesel (which makes economic sense but i think you would be into twin cylinders so you lose mobility) ) or briggs/kohler petrol  .So you could in theory build a 250 bar 21 lpm mobile unit brand new for £1300 (petrol or even less with loncin)!

Keep the machines mobile they are more versatile this way ...you could build a frame on the van to "lock" them down so you have "van mounted" system also

Hot box or two joined together for steam.

Mobile ? He has a L200   

Trust me, that beast goes ANYWHERE.

Did mail your guy Mike, but guess they are still on Christmas break.

Except round roundabouts

[G O Cleaning]

The machines attached to Browsers are "generally " only small industrial units bolted down...so nothing to gain in performance. Hire/buy a bowser.
There are industrial pumps available  interpump  250bar @ 21lpm which is plenty... if you need to put more water on the floor buy 2!
 I think they are around £560 all in with a gearbox. Only down side is they require 14hp..gx390 are around 12hp so you would need diesel (which makes economic sense but i think you would be into twin cylinders so you lose mobility) ) or briggs/kohler petrol  .So you could in theory build a 250 bar 21 lpm mobile unit brand new for £1300 (petrol or even less with loncin)!

Keep the machines mobile they are more versatile this way ...you could build a frame on the van to "lock" them down so you have "van mounted" system also

Hot box or two joined together for steam.

Mobile ? He has a L200   

Trust me, that beast goes ANYWHERE.

Did mail your guy Mike, but guess they are still on Christmas break.

I Know mate we used to have one, By 'mobile' I was referring to the larger washer - How do you intend to load it 

[G O Cleaning]

Looking for a second pressure washer set up, for domestic and commercial work, but mainly commercial as our domestic set up is fine.

We have an L200 which we use for this work, but the bed is reasonably small, so no room for bowsers, wondered if it's worth buying a bowser to tow, or a bowser with machine attached?

Current machine is 15LPM, which works fine, don't think I want to jump into a monster machine just yet.

Would like hot, but not essential. After using hot on a recent job, it was a pleasure to use, and seemed to work quicker than our cold.

Budget wise, open to ideas, don't want to waste money on something that's not up to commercial work, but don't want to overkill it.

So I guess, something middle of the road!

To be honest personally I would get rid of the L200 first. Been there! Real small load area compared to decent van, load height a nightmare so the washer will need to be van mount, then you will have to suck water for supply, others will disagree but always best to gravity feed pumps in long term.
We had a new L200 Warrior, the only way we could secure dropleaf was via truckman top, maybe they have changed that if not asking for trouble.

Best to ring guy as he is old school, this wk would be fine.

[concept]

I wouldnt mount the PW on the L200, currently 2 guys lift on and off, so a frame mounted system with wheels is ok, we have it set up as an open bed.

I know what you're saying, but we need a 4wd for our jetski, launching on beaches and slippy causeways.

We considered a crew cab, but not viable.

May look at a dedicated van for this side of the business.

[JetVac Cleaning]

I know it's a bit off subject but I do a lot of domestic and wanted to do commercial but just don't know how to go about it! How do you fellas get your commercial jobs if you don't mind me asking

[Blast Away]

I know it's a bit off subject but I do a lot of domestic and wanted to do commercial but just don't know how to go about it! How do you fellas get your commercial jobs if you don't mind me asking

You asked mate and I'll just be straight forward and honest. You need a better website that will be appealing to commercial clientel. Yours is shiite. 

[TomCrowther]

Ouch 

[Rob_Mac]

Don't beat around the bush there Lee

Rob

[JetVac Cleaning]

Couldn't agree more and this is something I'm looking at sorting out ASAP. Just don't know where to go to get a decent site built. I built this one but have never liked it but that's all I have at the moment! So is a decent site all that is required? I'm very good at what I do but useless at all the technical site building and SEO stuff!

[Griffus]

I know it's a bit off subject but I do a lot of domestic and wanted to do commercial but just don't know how to go about it! How do you fellas get your commercial jobs if you don't mind me asking

You asked mate and I'll just be straight forward and honest. You need a better website that will be appealing to commercial clientel. Yours is shiite. 

 

 

Northerner's lol

Our s(h)ite was last updated about three years ago, and we get plenty of commercial,.   That said for new business I think you're spot on as we only ever get domestic enquiries and most through recomendation or local magazive ad's.

Note to self, update website or Lee will call it poope 

[Blast Away]

Couldn't agree more and this is something I'm looking at sorting out ASAP. Just don't know where to go to get a decent site built. I built this one but have never liked it but that's all I have at the moment! So is a decent site all that is required? I'm very good at what I do but useless at all the technical site building and SEO stuff!

I've learnt how to build through Microsofts platform and also Wordpress. It can take up a lot of your time but that time spent is a big save compared to having a pro build one. Or is it if you chance using that time over a job? I spent quite a few hours last night making and changing the banners on a few pages. Things I've learnt to do that others would charge me daft money for.
Everyone needs to understand people don't pull out the yellow pages anymore to find a contractor. If you've got an appealing website and your keywords are doing the job pulling your site up for people to click then they're gonna be glued to your site. If it's not giving them that instant peace of mind and ease of navigation they're just gonna click the back button or x in the corner and keep searching. Everyone knows I brag a bit(just a bit ;-) ), but I've put the time in on the sites to gain the work and we do get the work.

[Blast Away]

I know it's a bit off subject but I do a lot of domestic and wanted to do commercial but just don't know how to go about it! How do you fellas get your commercial jobs if you don't mind me asking

You asked mate and I'll just be straight forward and honest. You need a better website that will be appealing to commercial clientel. Yours is shiite. 

 

 

Northerner's lol

Our s(h)ite was last updated about three years ago, and we get plenty of commercial,.   That said for new business I think you're spot on as we only ever get domestic enquiries and most through recomendation or local magazive ad's.

Note to self, update website or Lee will call it poope 

Ian mate, when landing on your site, I see an image of a van. It doesn't intantly tell me what you do. People are ignorant to this, not always can they be ar$ed to read bits of text, they want things to jump out at them. You need images showing what service you want to give them. That will grip their interest.

[Matt Gibson]

Make sure you make your website a nice colour... Aint that right Lee? 

[concept]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand...back on topic please?! 

[Matt Gibson]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand...back on topic please?! 

Why not try a Karcher HDS1000. Smallish machine, in a frame. hot water. Decent machines from what ive heard. I think Trevor on here uses one in a trailer. I know one of the big companies, i think it might be trafalgar, uses them standard in their gum trailers.

From memory they run off a yanmar engine. single cyl diesel.

[concept]

We've just been using one for the last 2 weeks, you seen the price?!

[Blast Away]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand...back on topic please?! 

Why not try a Karcher HDS1000. Smallish machine, in a frame. hot water. Decent machines from what ive heard. I think Trevor on here uses one in a trailer. I know one of the big companies, i think it might be trafalgar, uses them standard in their gum trailers.

From memory they run off a yanmar engine. single cyl diesel.

Trev's got Thermic 17's.

The HDS1000 are just a yanmar engine and a shiity pump. Trafalgar do put them in an ugly trailer yes and ask for a ridiculous price. they must expect at least £12k profit on each.

[Matt Gibson]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand...back on topic please?! 

Why not try a Karcher HDS1000. Smallish machine, in a frame. hot water. Decent machines from what ive heard. I think Trevor on here uses one in a trailer. I know one of the big companies, i think it might be trafalgar, uses them standard in their gum trailers.

From memory they run off a yanmar engine. single cyl diesel.

Trev's got Thermic 17's.

The HDS1000 are just a yanmar engine and a shiity pump. Trafalgar do put them in an ugly trailer yes and ask for a ridiculous price. they must expect at least £12k profit on each.

I stand corrected.. 

Concept, if you think the HDS1000's are expensive, dont price a Thermic17

[chris scott]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/diesel-pressure-washer-trailer-200bar-21lpm-/151194776566?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item2333e933f6

There is room for a hotbox in their too! £2500 finished?

[G O Cleaning]

I know it's a bit off subject but I do a lot of domestic and wanted to do commercial but just don't know how to go about it! How do you fellas get your commercial jobs if you don't mind me asking

if you are busy with domestics why target commercials, domestics paid on completion, no 60-90 days waiting, the likes of pub chains pay peanuts anyway, large domestic jobs 9/10  money in bank cleared by the time we return back to office, makes a hell of a difference😃

[JetVac Cleaning]

I know it's a bit off subject but I do a lot of domestic and wanted to do commercial but just don't know how to go about it! How do you fellas get your commercial jobs if you don't mind me asking

if you are busy with domestics why target commercials, domestics paid on completion, no 60-90 days waiting, the likes of pub chains pay peanuts anyway, large domestic jobs 9/10  money in bank cleared by the time we return back to office, makes a hell of a difference😃

it's always good to have a good mix of work in my experience ect. If one goes quiet then there always the other side of the business or other services you offer

[dmckellar]

This thread puts my fleet of GX200's to shame 

Best thing to do though, is research before you buy - when I was looking for mines the companies were trying to up-sell me gx390 machines, but in reality my mix of gx160/200 does me perfectly (we do fleet truck washing) 13hp would take paint off wheels and mouldings!

[concept]

Ebay item: 170571125422

Any good?

[JetVac Cleaning]

I know it's a bit off subject but I do a lot of domestic and wanted to do commercial but just don't know how to go about it! How do you fellas get your commercial jobs if you don't mind me asking

You asked mate and I'll just be straight forward and honest. You need a better website that will be appealing to commercial clientel. Yours is shiite.  ;)lee would you consider building a similar site for me as I think with your knowledge of the industry and obvious talent on the computer with site building I would be happy to pay you instead of someone else?

[Matt Gibson]

Ebay item: 170571125422

Any good?

Qwashers, good suppliers. I buy a fair bit of stuff from them. Ask smudger on here, i think it was him who just recently bought the same machine from them.

[Blast Away]

I know it's a bit off subject but I do a lot of domestic and wanted to do commercial but just don't know how to go about it! How do you fellas get your commercial jobs if you don't mind me asking

You asked mate and I'll just be straight forward and honest. You need a better website that will be appealing to commercial clientel. Yours is shiite.  ;)lee would you consider building a similar site for me as I think with your knowledge of the industry and obvious talent on the computer with site building I would be happy to pay you instead of someone else?

Sorry mate, I'd have to decline on that, I struggle finding time to edit our own as it is and really busy. Matt Gibson is good with wordpress too or Lee Kenny. ;-)

[JetVac Cleaning]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand...back on topic please?! 

Why not try a Karcher HDS1000. Smallish machine, in a frame. hot water. Decent machines from what ive heard. I think Trevor on here uses one in a trailer. I know one of the big companies, i think it might be trafalgar, uses them standard in their gum trailers.
I thought the hds 1000 was the only bad machine karcher made and is plagued with problems with parts breaking?
From memory they run off a yanmar engine. single cyl diesel.

[Matt Gibson]

I think its the pumps that are the problem. After having a better look at them, the pumps look pooe as Lee said.

The yanmar engines are a decent engine.