Powerflight Perfect Heat PFX1350

« **on:** March 16, 2009, 08:36:19 pm »

Iam about to buy this machine in the next few days was wanting to no if anybody thats got one has any problems with the pump on them i was searching some old posts and found some people saying the pumps were losing preasure a bit like what happened to my Raptor dont want to go out and spend £2000+and then having problems also is the machine worth buying.

« **Reply #1 on:** March 16, 2009, 08:57:03 pm »

Darren

I'm a current owner and i've had some problems with the pump.What i will say is the pump and head was completely replaced under warranty( with out any problem ).The replacement had a different head unit and is performing well.Follow Dave's instructions and you will be fine.

Its a great machine and i suspect very similar in performance to your raptor. I would add a cfr handtool to your basket as well!!

joe johnson

« **Reply #2 on:** March 16, 2009, 10:00:53 pm »

Darren

Why dont you wait for the 3 vac from alltec

« **Reply #3 on:** March 16, 2009, 10:02:33 pm »

Cheers Joe got a CFR hand tool already great peice of kit.

« **Reply #4 on:** March 16, 2009, 10:07:51 pm »

Clinton the money is burning a hole in my pocket want a machine asap but going to buy the mighty one hybrid to because i need a spotter to but that will have to wait a few weeks also iam getting the Power Flight for £1800+vat thought that was a good deal.PS anybody want to buy a Raptor.

« **Reply #5 on:** March 16, 2009, 10:10:42 pm »

Ok mate just might have been worth the wait and what i hear is its going to be a good seller with the 3 vac and the heat and with the 2"hoses be amazing results

« **Reply #6 on:** March 16, 2009, 10:31:18 pm »

Hi Darren how much for raptor ? age,condition etc? Cheers Gordon

« **Reply #7 on:** March 16, 2009, 10:39:42 pm »

Gordon i bought the Raptor July 2007 theres a problem with the pump it keeps dropping preasure its in getting fixed at the moment but they cant figure out whats wrong with it but everyrhing else works fine i will find out more tomorow about the pump.

« **Reply #8 on:** March 16, 2009, 10:42:12 pm »

roughly what sort of money?

« **Reply #9 on:** March 16, 2009, 10:45:05 pm »

£1000

« **Reply #10 on:** March 16, 2009, 10:53:40 pm »

Be good to hear your feedback when you get your set up mate good luck

« **Reply #11 on:** March 16, 2009, 11:02:42 pm »

Hopefully hear tomorrow how pump repair went. Cheers Gordon

« **Reply #12 on:** March 16, 2009, 11:09:06 pm »

Your Raptor is worth £1000 but I'll be surprised if you get it as there are too many units around going cheap.

Shaun

« **Reply #13 on:** March 16, 2009, 11:53:26 pm »

Shaun were are they as i could of saved myself £2000 i see a ninja for sale 135psi but thats not what iam looking for also checked Ebay never seen much there either.

« **Reply #14 on:** March 17, 2009, 12:14:29 am »

i own the cfr 1350 not had any probs with the pump just had few nigly probs with the haeater but cant moan about the service i have had putting it right plus top machine performs well and is very easy in and out of the van unlike some machines on the market

« **Reply #15 on:** March 17, 2009, 08:12:17 am »

Darren

The ninja for sale also has a steam mate built in as well as the heater so its a decent machine with the extra heat

« **Reply #16 on:** March 17, 2009, 08:17:04 am »

Clinton no doubt its a good machine but looking for more than 135psi ive still got my Powermax to thats 120psi but on big jobs prefer using about 250-300psi.

« **Reply #17 on:** March 17, 2009, 07:41:39 pm »

Darren, Iv'e had my powerflite for just over a year now it's a great machine but I have had a few problems.If you want to give me a call I will be happy to give you my opinion, tel 07815310252
regards Jeff

« **Reply #18 on:** March 17, 2009, 07:46:48 pm »

Were the problems easilly sorted

« **Reply #19 on:** March 17, 2009, 09:44:35 pm »

Clinton, the pump packed in after 6 months but was replaced under warranty.

« **Reply #20 on:** March 17, 2009, 11:56:59 pm »

Least the gave you a replacement

« **Reply #21 on:** March 19, 2009, 04:39:16 pm »

Heard today they dont use Lamb vacs its the cheap Chineese ones does anybody no if they are any good.Cheers Darren.

« **Reply #22 on:** March 19, 2009, 06:46:14 pm »

Dont think the life will be as long mate even though there cheaper

« **Reply #23 on:** March 19, 2009, 07:04:20 pm »

Clinton doesent make any diiference now i collect the machine on Tuesday just took it for granted they would be Lamb vacs but saying that ive got a WFP trolley system and a backpack and both have Chineese pumps in them and i no for a fact the pumps are lasting just as long as the Shurflo pumps and are about half the price so maybe they might not be to bad.

« **Reply #24 on:** March 19, 2009, 07:18:46 pm »

Darren

Am sure if the fit them in the machines they must be ok mate good luck with your new machine

« **Reply #25 on:** March 19, 2009, 09:28:11 pm »

Ive been using the chinese vacs for a while now and havnt had any problems at all.
Mark

« **Reply #26 on:** March 19, 2009, 10:25:38 pm »

It might not be to bad. I had a Chinese pump once and it even said "love you long time" on it

Bob

« **Reply #27 on:** March 25, 2009, 11:31:56 am »

Used the machine for the first time today realy impresed with it but ive got a problem already the waste tank is leaking at the back there is a steady trickle of water coming out at the left hand side were the 2 bolts are there is like a small indent were you can put 2 fingers in its leaking there and the waste tank had only about 15litres in it has anybody had this problem.cheers Darren

« **Reply #28 on:** March 25, 2009, 12:53:29 pm »

Think it was my fault must of spilt some water when filling it and its managed to get round to the back of the machine hope so anyway going to another job so will find out soon.

« **Reply #29 on:** March 25, 2009, 02:40:53 pm »

It can be sod to fill, until you get the technique right, any water that goes over the lip of the tank runs down and through the machine. I use a bucket with a scoop, it was intended for feeding horses, A lipped bucket tends to run everywhere.
I've contemplated running a bead of silicon sealer around the tank lip.
Were your customers impressed, mine usually are.

« **Reply #30 on:** March 25, 2009, 02:50:13 pm »

Same problem here, i think i'm a bad shot.

Glad your happy with the machine darren.Lets hope you don't get the same sort of problems you've had before.

joe

« **Reply #31 on:** March 25, 2009, 06:38:49 pm »

Well chuffed with the machine on the next 2 jobs no problems with the water running down the machine just got to be carefull filling it the machine looks the part and for the size of it its dead easy to move about and its easy to get into the van when using the ramp.What a difference dont need to fart about trying to get the pump working already like it better than the Raptor but its still early days dont no if the heat is as good as the Raptor need a few more jobs before i find out the only thing that i will have to get used to is the hose to the waste tank found that a bit tricky.Ive been using it with a standard wand do you think it works better with the Wonder Wand had a shot of one on Monday and liked it are they worth the money.cheers Darren

« **Reply #32 on:** March 25, 2009, 06:44:15 pm »

Darren
I had the wonderwand with my CFR500 and thought it was very good.
Dont know how quick you would go thro water as the CFR was recirculating.

Try and get one on a week trial, then you can hand back if you dont like.

« **Reply #33 on:** March 25, 2009, 06:50:15 pm »

Yes they are, and they are £100 cheaper than when i had mine.
Have you got the perfect heat valve open, if it's closed your water will be about 15 - 20c lower.
With a Wonderwand and the pressure at 200-250 Psi, you will empty tha tank in approx 1 Hour.
Wind it up to 500Psi and it takes about 20 Min's.

« **Reply #34 on:** March 25, 2009, 06:56:20 pm »

AJB what do you mean the heat valve open thanks Darren

« **Reply #35 on:** March 25, 2009, 07:14:49 pm »

If you look inside on the pipe that comes from the pump to the heater, you will see a branch coming off it, this is controlled by a valve, if it's pointing down the water diverts through the perfect heat coils, before going to the heater.

« **Reply #36 on:** March 25, 2009, 07:34:11 pm »

Hi Darren

Are you using the hide a hose's type supplied with the machine??

If so I changed to a normal solution line high psi rated and found it much better!!

I wondered the same about the wonderwand, its an expensive item just wish i could give a good try beforehand.

joe

« **Reply #37 on:** March 25, 2009, 08:11:08 pm »

Joe iam using the soution and vac hose from my Raptor didnt fancy the hide a hose.AJB do you mean open the machine up take the 2 screws out would it not be set like that already nobody mentioned this to me i thought the water was already going though the perfect heat coils when the vacs are runing.

« **Reply #38 on:** March 25, 2009, 08:19:00 pm »

if the machine is brand new it is factory set to run through the perfect heat system and the valve is zip tied to off position.

« **Reply #39 on:** March 25, 2009, 09:11:58 pm »

Richard so i dont have to change anything i take it its running at full heat the way its set just now.

« **Reply #40 on:** March 25, 2009, 11:18:18 pm »

On my machine the valve was not fully open.
The 2 screws don't come right out, you just loosen them to the point it will open, when replacing don't screw them in tight as they will cut into the solution tank, and why take the risk.

« **Reply #41 on:** March 26, 2009, 03:24:15 pm »

if you un do the two screws and lift the top body you will see the pump and it will have asticker on top explaining the valve if it is zipped tied down to the on position it is as factory produced no need to change. word of advice if you have any probs with the heater leaks etc you can snip the zip tie turn the valve to the off position and this will by pass any water from goin throught the heater system.

because of the location of where the vacs are you dont want any water getting into them as they are bitch to change.

Another tip is to unscrew the waste tank lid when not clean as this will stop any condensation build up and preserve the machine.

All in all great bit of kit.

any probs my number is 07595 727491

Regards

Richard

« **Reply #42 on:** March 26, 2009, 03:31:31 pm »

Cheers Richard i will have a closer look tomorow.

« **Reply #43 on:** March 26, 2009, 05:11:11 pm »

The vac motors are some of the easiest to change i've come across,
You can change either motor in 10 min's easily, Perfect heat coils have QD's either end and come out together. Try changing number 1 motor on an old Woodbridge machine, that was much more of a fiddle, same applies to Ninja.
If you turn off the valve, you by-pass the Perfect heat system, (no preheat) not the heater.

Just read the manual it does say by-passes all the heating system, but in 2 years i've never turned it off.

« **Reply #44 on:** March 27, 2009, 05:51:54 pm »

Done my first suite today with the powerflight must say the heat was great from it think its money well spent well chuffed.

« **Reply #45 on:** March 27, 2009, 09:22:58 pm »

Clinton drying times are always good use a cfr hand tool and a Honeywell Fan so they a nearly dry before i leave.

« **Reply #46 on:** April 02, 2009, 12:53:01 pm »

Ive been using the Powerflight for 2 weeks now must say its some machine loved the Raptor when i first got it but this blows it away even for heat the Powerflight beats it anybody thats thinking of a new porty should take a look at one of these and Cleansmart are doing them for about £1670 machine only thats a steal iam still in two minds about the Wonderwand getting great results with my wand from Hydramaster.

« **Reply #47 on:** April 02, 2009, 02:41:35 pm »

2 vacs Clinton done a Nursery yesterday used 75ft hose suction was still good.

« **Reply #48 on:** April 02, 2009, 02:50:44 pm »

Clinton whats the latest with the new Alltec porty have they sold any yet.